Topic: Blackrock invest in ukraine (Read 582 times)

Blackrock - a company I really don't like, but I keep buying shares in.  😑

Conspiracy doesn't rate vs standing facts, the war was going to happen in any case
(its ongoing since 2014 for many) and the investment in Ukraine has been happening even before the war.   War often is an opportunity, I heard that said of the civil war ongoing in Sri Lanka for many years and thats nothing related to a cold war.

     All investment comes at risk, the Sri Lanka economy continues to have great challenges.  I cant see how Ukraine is automatically some gifted situation warranting a conspiracy for the riches uncovered its all a massive risk to any who invests there now and even after a war.

I own Ukraine stocks but some have been listed in the region of twenty years, the share price reflects great losses.  If anything multiple aspects are causing losses and higher costs, even where resources are good with infrastructure and location to export existing it still wont be an easy path forward.

It would probably be simply surprising if the United States had a positive attitude towards the fact that Putin’s Russia is alternately attacking neighboring states and seizing their territory. The USSR, and then Russia, have always been a potential adversary of the United States and NATO. Therefore, when Russia was preparing to attack Ukraine, the United States did not even hesitate on which side to take and whom to help. Moreover, in this case there was a classic military attack by a stronger state with the aim of seizing territory and a change in the foreign policy of the state that was attacked.

Blaming the United States for supporting Ukraine is pointless and even immoral. After all, Ukraine defends its freedom and independence from a stronger aggressor. Even if the United States has its own economic or political benefit in this war. And the fact that there is a benefit is an indisputable fact. After all, the United States and NATO, through the hands of the Ukrainians, are weakening their main potential rival.

If not hundreds of thousands of victims of this terrorist attack from the side of russia, not destroyed cities, economy, lives and destinies - it would be a wonderful inoculation from the idiocy called "Russian peace". But it will be a very hard and expensive lesson to all those who decided to become separatists and fall for cheap propaganda of Nazi and similar regimes. But as they say - now we have what we have ....
I hope it will also be a good lesson for other countries.

And yes - the real situation in these cloacas (DNR/LNR), fully corresponds to the previous people's republics" that chose the "Russian world" instead of freedom, rights, opportunities - poverty, devastation, corruption, disenfranchisement, degradation. For information - not only was almost all industry destroyed in these territories, but also dozens of enterprises were exported to Russia. Stealing other people's goods and destroying other people's goods is one of the traits of the "Russian world". The list of enterprises that were taken from "backward Ukraine" to "developed Russia" is very easy to find, for those who do not believe in this fact

Do you think that in the so-called DPR and LPR, and even in Crimea, they are satisfied with life and the current situation? In Russia, they previously stated that they had come to liberate the Russian-speaking population of Donbass from Ukrainian Nazis, whom no one had even seen in their eyes. And what do they have today? Cities and other settlements where hostilities swept through are destroyed by 80-90 percent. There are practically no men left in the Donbass region: they either left, or died, or were mobilized to fight against Ukraine. Because of this, the work of communal services is practically paralyzed. The population is robbed and raped by the military. The industry in the Donbass has been stopped, some of the enterprises have been taken to Russia. Crimea from a prosperous peninsula and a paradise for tourists has turned into a military base of Russia, from 500 to 800 thousand Russians have moved there, who establish their own rules there. Do you think the locals like it?
After these territories are liberated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I am sure that there will no longer be a desire to separate from Ukraine for a long time.

On the one hand, technology and information resources give us the opportunity to communicate across continents, on the other hand.... Unfortunately, today the same technologies and mass media are often, if not to a greater extent, used to manipulate information and, accordingly, to form "public opinion", which is then used as an "axiom" and further build false statements.
So if you want to know about Australia - communicate with Australian citizens, if you want to know about Ukraine - communicate with Ukrainian citizens That way you will get more objective information...

Thank you for that info!  I don't watch the news, and even if I did I don't trust the media, and I don't know anyone from Ukraine (or Russia for that matter).  I'm glad this forum is global so people like me can read what members thousands of miles away have to say about what they're going through and what their version of events is.

Oh wow, what exactly do I have on my hands, a second printing?  I got it as a gift from someone who bought it on eBay, but I'm pretty sure it was sent straight from Ukraine.  I also got that gray-colored card.  PM me if you can, as this isn't the right place to be chatting about stamps.

Let's say you're right

Please - cite facts, actions, names and events that in your opinion are so - anti-Russian ? That is, events that took place-- O !
Let's take two periods:
1 - from the collapse of the USSR, until the year 2000, and
2 - since 2000
Why these periods? And I will explain to you later, but first I would like to hear you, with your data ? Who, when, what events in these periods were pure "US anti-Russian policy" ?

You describe events incorrectly and place accents incorrectly, so the conclusions about the negative participation of the United States in the Russian war against Ukraine are absolutely wrong. I see that in your understanding, white and fluffy Russia is undeservedly attacked by the United States and that the United States is trying to worsen the attitude of other states towards Russia as much as possible. But what about Russia, which from the very beginning after the collapse of the USSR has been consistently pursuing an aggressive policy towards its neighbors, forming pro-Russian puppet regimes on their territory, which are constant hotbeds of military conflicts? So it was in Moldova with the formation of the pro-Russian Transnistrian Republic, during the attack on Georgia in 2008 with the formation of the pro-Russian South Ossetia, during the attack on Ukraine in 2014 with the formation of the pro-Russian DPR and LPR on its territory. You describe the opening of Russia's military attack on Ukraine as "there was a war", as if it were some kind of natural disaster, and not a pre-planned attack on another state with the aim of capturing it. Already on the first day of such an attack in February 2022, the Office of the President of Ukraine received calls from the Kremlin with a proposal to sign a surrender. How else should the international community react in relation to the aggressive actions of Russia, which brazenly and cynically began to ignore all possible international norms and show that it relies exclusively on military force in relation to other states? Maybe the United States should have helped Russia's aggression so that you don't reproach it now?

Civilized states have long decided who in the current war on the territory of Ukraine is the aggressor and who is the victim of the attack. Yes, the military industry of the US and NATO member countries is now at full capacity and will have big profits because Russia's aggressive military actions have spurred the arms race. In addition, Russian weapons in this war showed very low efficiency, while NATO weapons supplied to Ukraine, on the contrary, showed high efficiency. Therefore, military orders are now sent to the defense enterprises of the NATO countries, and above all the United States. After all, now the Kremlin also continues to threaten war with the Baltic countries, Poland, and Germany. Russia deserves the current negative attitude towards itself, as it continues to attack the peaceful cities of Ukraine every day and sow death and devastation.

I certainly support the idea that any ideas have a right to life. But in this case, when they talk about global crime, genocide of the people of Ukraine, terrorism, looting, I would like to hear your ARGUMENTS in favor of YOUR theory ? It is especially interesting for me, a citizen of Ukraine, to hear it, who has seen the Russian terror against Ukraine since 2014....
Please explain and argue your thought ?

The American government has been anti-Russian since the beginning and the US administration has been helping Ukraine in various ways since the beginning. The main reason for such assistance to Ukraine is to use Ukraine to worsen Russia's diplomatic relations with Ukraine. But when the war between Ukraine and Russia took place, the USA made a big profit. After Ukraine's war with Russia, Russia is trying to change the economic situation of Ukraine first. When the economic status of a country goes down, various investment institutions from that country will stop investing, and if the amount of investment in the country is low, the impact will directly go to the military sector. The blackrock investment may also be a move by the US to control Ukraine's economic system.

It turns out interestingly: in 2014, Russia occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, in February 2022, it threw all the power of its armed forces into an offensive against Ukraine in order to finally capture Ukraine, and the war, it turns out, was started by the United States. What is the basis for such nonsense? To somehow partially remove the blame for the aggression from Russia? No, Russia started the war and there is no getting away from this fact. It's just that Putin and his entourage were mistaken in the degree of resistance from Ukraine and the amount of international support this time for Ukraine. But this does not relieve Russia of all responsibility for unleashing this largest and bloodiest war since the Second World War.

I even think that the United States started this war, not as many people mistakenly believe that Russia started the war. It is easy to see who is the biggest beneficiary of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

If Blackrock was supported and encouraged by the US government to invest in Ukraine, I think they would have known exactly when the war would end. I mean all the decisions of the war are decided by the US, Ukraine is just a pawn on the chessboard. When will the war end? The United States will be the one to decide.

The only country that is going to benefit from this war is the country that is providing ammunitions. As discussed above US is the big player in the whole scenario. None of the European nor the Asian countries matter here. Everyone is having their own businesses underway. BlackRock is being courageous about this type of investment because they have that much financial backing and with the war getting over they will have settled based for sure.

However, I am surprised how they do know that war will be over soon? It’s a war and there is no fixed timeline for the war ever. It could go on forever also.

This is definitely smelling bad in terms of good intention behind this investment. BlackRock is right now in the stage of “Never let them know your next move” sort of situation.

I am a collector myself, including stamps

This block of stamps was issued VERY TIMELY ! This stamp depicts a beautiful story: after the next epathet of aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, a small group of Ukrainian soldiers were stationed on Zmeinniy Island, who held the defense of the island, against many times superior enemy forces. This island was daily bombed, shelled with thousands of tons of ammunition, but Ukrainian soldiers did not leave and did not surrender the island. One day, the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser Moscow, approached the island. Its captain got in touch with our soldiers and pathos stated that "this is the Russian cruiser Moscow, "the second army of the world", you have no chance", and offered to surrender. The answer was short: "This is the AFU. Russian ship - fuck you", and visually conveyed the message using the middle finger of the hand

Yes, many defenders of the island died, some were captured. But after a while, the AFU struck and drowned the cruiser Moscow with all its crew. Russia cowardly, by habit, hid the truth for a long time.
It is to this event that the stamps you have published are dedicated.

The first block of stamps looks like this:

You should also not forget that the Ukraine also have the only harbor that are not frozen over in the winter, which is a huge strategical advantage for the Russian fleet, if a bigger war break out in the winter. (Some people think that was the real reason why Russia initiated this war from the start)

BlackRock are like any other predator corporation out there, they see a potential to make a profit and they pounce on it. Someone needs to help the Ukrainians build up their country... and I doubt if the Russians are going to do that. 

And imagine how surprised they were in the Kremlin, when according to the plans of the General Staff, and according to those fairy tales that were winded on the ears of the Kremlin Fuhrer, everything was to end within a month, on the borders of Poland
By the way, let me clarify - in fact, until the beginning of summer 2022, no noticeable assistance was provided, although Ukraine asked for it very much. By the beginning of the invasion, the only thing that was given to us in more or less noticeable quantities were Javelin systems. And they really helped us well, because the solution is very effective, and there is no salvation for the "second army of the world" from them. But... that's pretty much all we've been supplied with. The first new samples of equipment I saw in our units only in the summer of 2022... So until the summer of 2022, the offensive of the Russian Federation and their partial defeat was done almost "with bare hands" by the AFU and volunteer battalions.
I have a stable assumption that the West was absolutely sure that the outcome of the war is obvious, and Ukraine was prepared for the fate of "forced sacrifice before the great army of the Russian Federation". And the response that Ukraine gave was also a shock and surprise for them. And this was the trigger for the beginning of deliveries of a wide range of weapons for the destruction of Rashism

I'm trying to grab some point with what you mean about Blackrock investing in Ukraine, what would have been the faith of Ukraine if Blackrock didn't have investments with them, I will be ashame of US if they watch and allow Russia continue to destroyed some part of Ukraine because they don't have benefits from them. Not to say much, US are having history of reputation of been a leach from other countries, this is what they do and when you need them the most, they ghost you but will come back when they see precious opportunity in your circle.

Russia will not allow that to happen, I'm not in there country and I don't know much about them or perhaps they hide the negativities from their media but I know Russia like Putin with his rascality, this why he has been forming coalition with other big guys to stay relevant.


Since when did bitcoin result to currency pumping? The last bullrun we had, we didn't experience dollars and euros been pumped rather they lost value in purchasing power due to increased in inflation. Blackrock impact in the market so far hasn't even yielded anything, ETF application were not successful which lord knows only when SEC is going to make another consideration.

This is how the world works. What appears on the surface is only the outer layer of the intrigue that occurs in this world. It may sound like a conspiracy theory but I personally believe that this world is driven by a few people who have complete dominance and power in the financial and military sectors.
We don't really know who owns Blackrock. Although search results on Google show various data even down to the CEO. but we never really know who owns Blackrock shares.
And regarding how the world is running, I think that since the dollar was no longer pegged to gold, the economic growth of America and its allies has increased, whereas countries such as Africa and Asia have experienced several economic crises and inflation which we continue to feel from year to year.

Life is all about making huge profits. The Americans know this best and that’s why the most advanced financial markets are in NY. The US army are simply muppets to the big institutions like BR, JPM etc. Another fairly big corporation, 3M, gave tinnitus to countless US army veterans because of their faulty earplugs and they did recently getaway with a $5 billion bill for the damages they caused. LoL. You just can’t win against the corporate America especially the if you are an American in America.

We, I see, have different sources of information. I trust the news of my government in Ukraine, but you proceed mainly from what is presented in the official Russian news. The Ukrainian military is now showing how they are slowly but surely advancing on the southern front, in the direction of Melitopol and Berdyansk. In the Melitopol direction, on August 22, Ukrainian troops recaptured the village of Rabotino, on August 27, there were also reports of a strong advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Robotino in the direction of Novoprokopka and Verbovoye. The loss of Rabotino for the Russian occupation forces threatens the exit of the Ukrainian defense forces along the 0408 highway to break through the second line of defense.
It is in the Rabotino area that the defense of the Russians in the Zaporozhye region begins to crack the most, despite the fact that in this region there are about 100 thousand Russian soldiers, which is 3 times more than the advancing Ukrainian forces.
Source: https://politeka.net/news/412990-mozhet-porvatsya-eshche-v-odnom-meste-situaciya-na-zaporozhe-rezko-izmenilas-v-polzu-vsu

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have significantly succeeded in counter-battery combat and every day they destroy 20-30 enemy artillery systems, its RZSZ, air defense and other military equipment. Yes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving slowly, during the period of the counteroffensive since June 6, only about 200 square kilometers of territory have been liberated. But the enemy's equipment is being knocked out at a fast pace, and without it, additional waves of mobilization will not have the desired effect.

At the same time, what progress has Russia made on the Ukrainian front over the past year? Captured Bakhmut at the cost of 50 thousand lives only "Wagnerites", not counting the losses of the regular army? So now Bakhmut is practically surrounded by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and it’s even a problem for the Russians to get out of him, because he is completely under fire control from the high-altitude hills around him.

The events of the autumn months at the front will show which propaganda - Russian or Ukrainian - is more truthful.

Thank you for actually dropping a link for reference, which is something OP should have done when making a claim like he did.  Not everyone reads the same news, and some idiots like me don't read or watch any news whatsoever and are shivering in a dark corner waiting for the end to come.

If Blackrock did start investing in Ukrainian 'stuff' then it makes me think they know something the general public doesn't.  Then again, might they not have also invested in Russian 'stuff' as well and perhaps kept it out of the news?  I mean Jesus, they're the major shareholder in pretty much everything right now.

Agreed, and I'm actually surprised the war has lasted this long; I thought for sure that Russia would take Ukraine in the snap of a finger (note: that's not what I ever hoped for, but based on size alone and also my ignorance of military affairs it's an assumption I made).  No doubt Ukraine has gotten a lot of help coming in through the back door, but they've availed themselves with honor in the face of a very powerful enemy.  I never understood the politics behind the war, and I've got nothing against either the people of Russia or Ukraine; Putin's responsible for this, and in the back of my mind is always the knowledge that his military has nuclear capability.  What he was thinking I couldn't tell ya, and I'm not sure most people could either.

Going way, waaay off topic for a second here, but I got these stamps as a gift and I love 'em:



Their issuance might have been a bit premature, but goddamn....can you get any bolder than that?  Does anyone know if these are still in circulation in Ukraine, i.e., being used as postage?

You mean that because of the plan to make Blackrock invest in Ukraine, the war will stop because of this step? It's not that easy to just say that. Only time will tell if this amount of investment by Blackrock will stop the war in Ukraine. Although Blackrock's decision to invest in Ukraine is a demonstration that it trusts and is confident in this country that they will benefit from it in the future, they will do it. This is the only thing I see at the moment.

Its typical to invest in a situation like this, not a pretty phrase buy when blood is on the streets is well known.   I dont believe Ukraine does respond well after the war even if it can be ended and peace achieved, its still a negative. Obviously damage must be cleared, repaired, people are dead and the country is damaged so dont tell me this is the ideal investment scenario.   However when we include prospects vs price the fear peaks and the whole cycle of investment then sure, years after the initial point of entry being close to any decline in the war is likely closely timed but theres no positive to war.
  Nobody wins wars imo, certainly not the common people and destruction is not profitable all we can say it clears the oppression that might have existed otherwise and people do not want to waste the sacrifice of those who died.

I don't see any scenario where Putin could be overthrown. Russia can't lose this war. I'm being pretty objective: Russia has more people, bigger army, great military industry and last but not least: a shitload of nukes. Worst scenario for Russia would be freezing the war right now. Ukraine has already showed they're unable to attack further, their "counter-offensive" has failed miserably. Western allies are getting ready for negotiations, probably going to hand Crimea and Donetsk/Luhansk region to the Russians.


Muahaha... you should ease on that Ukrainian propaganda!    I wonder what your sources are? And one more thing: I doubt it that most people who live in Crimea and Donbas want to be liberated by Ukraine. 

Blackrock is a global investment corporation. And all of its projects are long-term, with calculated risk levels. Yes, you partially correctly pointed out what they will invest in Ukraine, after the terrorist country attacks Ukraine, and after the terrorist country loses.
I didn't just say the last words - losing to a terrorist country. The fact is that infrastructure projects, where Blackrock will enter with their money, require many years (10+) to build it all up, start working and make a profit to return to investors. This means that Blackrock assumes that Russia will be lowered to a level where it will not be able to pose a threat to Ukraine or anyone else for the next 20-30 years. Otherwise - almost 100% high risk of losing many tens of billions of Blackrock's investment!
And here the bet on "high-risk investments" will not work, where there is a chance to return your investment with "x10" profit in a short time.  This is exclusively long-term investments

Honestly you could also do it yourself as well if I am not wrong. Depending on the laws of course, I do not think that there should be anything that blocks you from buying a land there, or a building, and just make a profit. We are not as rich as Blackrock of course, hell Ukraine is not as rich as Blackrock, the whole nation, wasn't richer even before the war.

So, I think it should be important to remember that Blackrock will not do anything you can't do, they will just do what you can do but with a lot more money. And to be fair there is so much money to be made there, if Russia war ends, there will be a lot of devastated places, you could buy them, clean up the rubbles, build a big building, and just make a profit.

It seems that you are very far from understanding what happened and is happening in Ukraine about this war. Putin still comes up with absurd ideas about why he attacked Ukraine. But the fact remains: he wanted to destroy Ukraine and annex its territory to Russia, seize its fertile lands, well-developed industry, and most importantly, the history of Ukraine, which dates back to the time of the powerful state of Kievan Rus of the 9th century, without which today's Russia is nothing with its true history of several centuries.
Therefore, Putin began to invade Ukraine gradually, since 2014, seizing the then Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and part of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Just because the world community did not properly respond to Russian aggression in 2014, Putin went further and in February 2022 sent eight of his armies to Ukraine from the north, east and south of this country. The Ukrainians were able to give a good rebuff to the invaders, and therefore the United States and other states began to provide all kinds of assistance to Ukraine in protecting its independence and territorial integrity.

In preparing to attack Ukraine, Putin poured billions of dollars into pro-Russian officials in Ukraine, and they assured him that Ukrainians would greet the Russians with flowers as their liberators. This is where Putin miscalculated when he attacked Ukraine. And when, after two months of the invasion, the Russians began to flee from the center and north of Ukraine, leaving their armored vehicles there in order not to be completely defeated, it was too late for Putin to retreat. The people of Russia would not have forgiven him for this, and he would have been overthrown. By continuing the war, Putin is simply delaying the collapse of his power.

Now for the third month now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been attacking the Russians along the entire front, stretching over a thousand kilometers. The difficulty lies in the fact that the Russians have mined large areas, where for every meter there are six anti-personnel and one anti-tank mines. In addition, the Russians still have a huge advantage in aircraft and helicopters, and it is very difficult to attack at the same time. But by now, the mined area has practically been passed, the southern front of the Russians is bursting at the seams in many places, and the last reserves have been thrown into battle by the Russians. If the front is broken and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the south reach the Sea of Azov (which is less than a hundred kilometers), it will become obvious that Russia has lost this war. Then the entire pro-island of Crimea will be under the fire control of the Ukrainians and the Russians will be trapped there.

The Ukrainian people are grateful to the United States, England and other countries that have provided and continue to provide Ukraine with all kinds of assistance and defend their independence. That Blackrock and others like it intend to invest in post-war Ukraine is a testament to their belief in Ukraine's victory.

Okay, but BlackRock is already the major market player and they buy almost everything. According to what I read they are making the most profit when there's war or economic problems cause it will be easy for them to sell at a high price something they buy/invest cheap.
If the is war they will make a profit but not like when there's no war.

Yes, and the fight was hard to reach a conclusion because our leaders are using the life and property of humans to play a political game.

Blackrock is an investment business and as part of that they will take certain "bets" that the situation will at some point in the future stabilize, with the money they're putting into assets now becoming less risky and being possible to ultimately sell for more in future. This is good for Ukraine and bad for Russia, because if they thought Ukraine was losing then they would avoid adding any new money in. Ultimately the war has destroyed the illusion that Russia is a credible military power and dismantled the 20 years worth of shadow games that Putin was able to play quite well. However, much like egomaniacs and psychopaths, they fool into the trap of their own messaging.

No offense - but... it looks like you are just writing from a fool's paradise
And to prove it is simple - answer one, extremely simple, and easily verifiable question : When did the USA invite Ukraine to NATO ? Provided that Russia attacked Ukraine, at that neither about NATO nor about something else reasons were not voiced. And it was stated, the initial pretext, though quite idiotic, and exactly for the "paradise of fools - "protection of the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine"
So the question - when did the USA invite/offer Ukraine to join NATO ? And let's check who is where

there is optimistic war is going over when the big company invest in conflict country. Because the big company like blackrock know that economic future and they won't lost the money he was invest. maybe is not currency only, but another instrument like stock, debenture, or another product value will going rise immediatelly. Maybe if I have chance and have unspend money I want going to invest also after post war.

Most of all these multinational companies have their support base. Some of them that have an interest in Ukraine will either be pro-Nato or pro-Russia. But from the look of things BlackRock is aligned with the US and Nato. So we can assume that they are investing with the intention that Ukraine will become victorious. But we cannot underestimate the greed and influence of these companies. Most of them can be supporting the two warring groups to benefit regardless of the outcome of the war like the Rothschild sponsored both sides in the battle of Waterloo.

I said they will make even more profit once the war ends... buy deeps! It's still deep, so take as much as you can... and Blackrock has deep pockets.


Well, after all this fighting it will be hard to reach any conclusions.

You said it yourself that what is important to the BlackRock organization and their shareholders is profit and the lives of the people don't matter to them which I believe already fish out the reason why they invested in Ukraine since they know the Russian government will never withdraw from the invasion. If they are going to make more profit once the war ends why this they choose to invest in Ukraine instead of doing something that will end the conflict.

I don't expect it either since both sides were unable to reach a conclusion at the early stage of the invasion before now.

I don't think the risk of such investment is as high as you'd think. At the end of the day there are still cities and people and there are infrastructures they need. It doesn't matter who rules over those cities and people, they will still need the money to rebuild! Even if it is Russia that in the end takes control of those cities, they'll need foreign investors to rebuild anything they'd destroyed, which is where jackals like BlackRock come in to fill their own pockets.

The problem of wars all over the different parts of the world instituted  from when the formation of world powers emerged and the means to keep their present state of affairs unhindered will only lead to war after another war which may or may not indirectly involved their flags but their interest will unveil their involvement anyway.

The victims of a truth are the regular people because they don't know what's going on behind the scene but are convinced by what the different state media choose to deliver to their mind. If I were to have a say I will choose to stay neutral about this nonsense called war for the sake of widespread peace because it is the taking of sides that still makes the war linger.

In the beginning or the end, it's all about the money...more money, more weapons, more threats. Who cares about lives? We are just numbers... and we are not important. What's important is the profit for Blackrock and shareholders. I hope you feel the irony here. We had a topic here "Who is making a profit during wartime", I guess Blackrock is one of the answers. They will make even more profit once the war ends... so much about ethics and morality.

There is talk about peace, but much more attention is drawn to all those weapons that come from all over the world. With all the weapons around, I am also afraid that there will be no peace soon.
 

Right now Ukraine is desperate to recover all the damages Russia has caused to the country and will gladly accept any offer, even if it's rip-offs thinly veiled as magnanimous offers presented by vultures like BlackRock and the EU, each looking to take from where the Russians left.
The only good thing this alliance could bring is a massive influx of investors but then again, nothing goes for nothing because BlackRock FMA is notorious for it's ability to dissuade a country's attempt at regulations.
 Well, I may not know the main reason behind Putin's attack if Ukraine, but if it was to avoid the West from gaining entrance into their borders, he's sorely failing at it.

The risk of Ukraine "losing" the war is next to nothing which is why private companies are investing funds into the country to the tune of billions of dollars. Blackrock aren't the only ones. The end of the war, while it may take years, looks like it'll be a peace deal brokered by NATO where Ukraine makes certain concessions of territory to Russia. The chance of Russia being able to overtake the entirety of Ukraine and house enough troops across the region to retain power is unlikely.

Dont assume the Ukraine invasion will end soon just because BlackRock invested in Ukraine. From what I heard BlackRock invested in Ukraine so they can make huge money out of the war and a powerful investment company like BlackRock has been accused of buying almost everything which including the government shouldn't be expected to invest in Ukraine just to end the war.

I'm wishing that the war will have to end as soon as possible. Because the casualties are that much and it's about the people that are being frightened by this war. While the capitalists are earning and taking advantage of this situation which has always been the sad truth.

It's true, during and after the war. I've heard that Ukraine is now looking to hire a lot of people but not to fight but to rebuild their nation's destroyed infrastructures.

This could be an opportunity to those investors who wants to support the recovery of Ukraine and make profit at the same time. Let’s just hope that this is the beginning and the war will soon be over because many lives already lose and a lot of people are suffering from this war. This is where they said that there’s money in wars and that is during the recovery period.

This is very good information. Yes as you said, Ukraine was used as a bait by US  to attack Russian and everyone who is political inclined would understand this political warfare tactics by the USA military and it government. And what USA did is not good. Though we are not from that part of the world so the stories we heard were different but all still boiled down to USA wanting Ukraine to join NATA and Russia government refused them to do that. And some said, Russia wanted to control the boarders. So we had different stories all together. We all pray that the way should end soon. I believed from international news, the war is going down.

BlackRock investment can stabilize Ukraine economy again, but I am still suspecting that there is a diplomatic agreement between the two because USA business company can't just come to a war zone and established itself there.

Well, whatever NATO was offering to the Ukraine, that's all a diplomatic action, not a war decalration, if Putin wanted to 'retaliate' then he should only do diplomatic action, not invading Ukraine and declare a war. Doesn't matter what US do, what the world currently knows is that Putin was the one pulling the trigger.


You know this kind of attitude will be the start of you losing all of your money that you invested. And the correct phrase should be 'Blackrock never do moves that's not giving more benefit to them', it's very rare and almost impossible that an investment company doing a charity.

There goes the American dominance as aid to the war thorn blown out Ukraine. At least when Ukraine gets to accept the deal from Blackrock to financially develop the place, the rest of the world and their enemies won't get to think in terms of what benefits the American government or wall street, but they would think in terms of how they were rescued and helped in times when Russia showed no mercy to their lands and lives. 

The place will sure get the financial boost needed and in same fate, welcome the NATO idea without even thinking twice about it.

Anything that is happening in Ukraine and Russia will always be directed as a consequence from the ongoing war between them, are we to say rather that BlackRock is in support of one side or are neutral in making their own business to help resuctate the economy movement through it services in Ukraine thereby taking advantage for its business development within the region, maybe if the war actually ended there won't be more to dialogue on regarding any development coming to any of the two brothers, all we need right now is peace and restoration.

BlackRock is one of the many organizations that intend to invest in rebuilding Ukraine. It's not a military effort at all, and as the focus is on restoring and reconstructing, it might well be conditional upon Ukrainian victory and the end of the war.
Also, perhaps many people don't understand how bad the situation is. The economic losses from the war are estimated at $230 billion and growing, and this doesn't account for how messy things are with poverty, employment, and other things that were exacerbated by the war.
This BlackRock prospect, as many others, are a way to think ahead and ensure that Ukraine doesn't collapse after being drained by the war, and can gradually rebuild to at least resemble its former past, for starters. Such deals do nothing to scare off Russia, to bring the end of the war closer, or, for that matter, even to keep Ukraine's economy afloat right now.

There is no inference between Blackrock entering Ukraine and the end of the war. How can you predict that it will last for 1 or 2 years more? I am the one who is living in Ukraine and there is very little signs about finishing the war right now, moreover, they are connected to military actions, and not the desire of some big companies to invest in here. What Blackrock does is just making a bet for a winner. But when this victory will take place, no one knows, unfortunately.

I wish this war would end even today but from the look of things this war will linger for a long time because no party is showing any genuine interest in dialogue and compromise.


These companies have analyzed the current Ukrainian market and come out with a means of making money from Ukraine during and after the war. There will be no bull run in a country that is already devastated by war. Even if the war ends, it will take some years for Ukraine to gain economic prosperity.


I don't know where you got the information that Putin will be replaced by NATO. The outcome of this war cannot be predicted. Your post seems to affirm that it was the US that orchestrated the war in Ukraine to make money, but you gave no fact or link to validate your claims. Instigating wars to make a profit is the highest crime against humanity.

This might be too much of an oversimplification. Or perhaps you either read too much conspiracy theories or entertain too much movie-like plots in your head.

While it is most probably true that in every political, geopolitical, economic, and other decision of the government there are powerful companies and their business interests at play, it's plain ignorance to just say that the war will be over soon because BlackRock invests in Ukraine.

So what if BlackRock invests in Ukraine? BlackRock is all over the world. It has business interests in Russia as well. Chinese companies are also investing in Ukraine. Russian businessmen are also doing business in Ukraine. Ukraine's Russian import takes a significant portion of its GDP. Ukrainian companies are also doing business in Russia.

We're probably just entertaining too much creative interpretations in understanding current events.

There is always action and reaction and what I have noticed is that they are trying to lobby because they hope to get a project to reconstruct Ukraine. Did you know that the past war was very different from the current war? If you say one thing above, the question is whether this war was created or an incident?

and you forgot mention that if the news is true BlackRock will made ton of money from this war First they will get more money from their Stock that related to war and I see stock like Raytheon or Lockheed is at the peak price now BlackRock had their stock

and secondly Op said Blackrock Invest in ukraine in the lowes point of country that going war with russia so is like buy bitcoin at lowes point of bear market the will gain lot of profit when the war end and economy start to rise

that's the reality of this situation. it is happening around the world. for sure, not only blackrock has already made a deal with ukraine. there are a lot of companies that will benefit from this war. we are just left hoping that this will be over soon because there are so many innocent lives who are directly suffering from this chaos.
these big companies are already preparing for the rehab of ukraine. so they are just waiting for this war to be over to start doing their works and earn money.

You can become filthy rich or you can lose everything if Ukraine loses the war. It's a high-risk investment, you can earn a lot but you can also lose everything.

And yes, US is not the ultimate superpower there are certain things they can't afford.

Good. Now we're talking.


While at least some of your examples are correct, I hope that we can agree that Russia has an equally impressive list of wars they've provoked or kept going. Both are very far from being innocent.
And on the invasion of Ukraine, no matter what USA or NATO did, it's still Russia that has started it. I mean, come on, how on earth can anybody sane claim they are defending themselves when they are actually attacking their neighbors in the neighbors' own country?! Even more, Russia did the first move in Crimeea, you seem to forget that. Plus, you also seem to forget that Russia has prepared the invasion with an energy war against Europe (halting the supply now and then to affect the prices to feed the pre-war effort and in a hope to blackmail the other countries that they'll cut the gas supply entirely).


As already said, there are companies that try to make their entry no matter who and when will win the war.
But yes, here you do have a point, USA has its habbit of selling both bullets and bandages. And now it's much more visible than in the 80s.

Naturally, we know that BlackRock's interest in Ukraine is because that country is blessed with abundant valuable resources. They are fourth globally in assessed Natural Resource value. For BlackRock this their opportunity to increase the value of the assets under their management. The underlying goal is the potential for substantial profits. If they are allowed, they own the country, make the laws, buy politicians and use it to do whatever they want.

 Zelensky in cahoots with BlackRock?  this is such a bad idea for the citizens because they don't know what hit them. BlackRock has never cared for anyone else apart from making huge profits. These sharks just seem like sheep in daylight, offering to render support to Ukraine in their time of war but if there's something I've come to understand about how the US operate, they aren't magnanimous; there's always a catch.
It's bad that Zelensky is gullible enough to not be aware that the US is just using subtle means to enforce their stronghold and just as @Pooya87 rightly stated, they are no good.

 According to this news, BlackRock and JP Morgan are supposed to help set up a reconstruction bank aimed at steering public capital into rebuilding projects that could rake in billions of dollars. Wow, such a sweet proposition! But why such a bad idea? His investments has been known to profit from war and conflict.

When did I say that war is right? Nope! Any kind of war is always wrong.

America attacking Libya was wrong. America attacking Seriya was wrong. America attacking Afghanistan was wrong. America attacking Yemen was wrong. America attacking Iraq and other gulf countries was WRONG.

Here is a list of wars Americans participated in case you are interested -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

I am not influenced by any propaganda brother! America indeed influenced the Russia - Ukraine war and sparked the flame by inviting Ukraine in NATO.

Now with BlackRock's investment it's just more evident.

You should seriously try to educate yourself more about how the world works.
From day one of every invasion of any country in the world in the past decades, such companies from different countries have always been the first there during the initial phase of the invasion to struck loads of deals for the day that the war eventually ends. This is regardless of who is going to win the war or for how long it is going to last.

Take the invasion of Iraq by United States in early 2000's. As a matter of fact the invasion had economical reasons including investments (to rebuild the infrastructure US destroyed!). So from day one as US was bombing the Iraqi infrastructure (from people's homes to factories and farms) these American companies were the first in Iraq making deals for the future!

i don't see it a reason for war to end. wherever BlackRock invests, it destroys a country to build smart cities. what blackrock got was the contract to rebuild the country after the war but before they may be able to do that is to first destroy it all.

destroying it all will make them more profit which is what normally investors want.

I agree, Zelensky should be nominated for an Oscar soon. Seriously though, things like this have been happening since First World Governments were formed. As normal, regular people we will never know what is really going on behind the scenes.

And Putin decided to play along, right?
Sorry, no. You have been fooled by the wrong propaganda. Maybe you give it a good thinking too. And maybe you start with the fact that attacking another country, no matter the reasons, is just wrong.


Under what computer games altered reality you live? 1-2 more years is an awfully long time.
War means death. Every minute it lasts longer it's too long.

The war is just 1½ year in now. An extra one or two years is not exactly soon and will still put a heavy toll on all countries involved.

All the while it was always a question of interests and sovereignty between the world powers and some parties involved were more than willing to play the long game to get what they want using the media to deflect their interests.

I will not still expect an easy outcome for U.S.A or total collapse pf the Russian ranks as you are suggesting.

- Jay -

That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise. It's a tactical war initiated by US by inviting Ukraine to join NATO. The sole intention of US was to gain uninterrupted access to Russian border. Ukraine is just a scapegoat.

So when BlackRock is planning their investment in Ukraine, the intention is now very clear. If the access cannot be received by war tactics, the next step is to gain access of the financial markets and gain so much dominance where US government can put pressure to have a military base in Ukraine. Well thought out plan by the only warmongers of this century.

We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Blackrock ready to invest a lot capital in ukraine probably ukraine could be ready for huge bull run.
And off course west Will replace Putin or make Putin to go back in russia and USA come in ukraine to build their financial markets in ukraine so the wall Street Will make money and everybody knows that wall Street money making moment is holy Even putin will be killed if he Will interupt ukraine once big guys are there with their big capital.

Imagine what's the price ukraine currency once bull run start by holding ukraine currency you can become filthy rich.
And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich