Please explain how anybody thinks they will make a single penny profit with this:
Neon M32: Stand-alone Box
Performance: 32MH/s
Power cons: 300W
Price: $5,400
Mining Dogecoin at the moment with that hash rate will generate about 5,000 Doge a day worth less than 0.0025 BTC
So do the math!
Topic: Bliss Devices Announces Higher Performance Miners (Read 1846 times)
See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8808590 for the latest.
OP, I offer you the opportunity of a reverse pre-order.
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
LOVE this ^^^
Kudos.
Paul, I am interested in some information around the Scrypt-N mining capability of your miners; specifically, how will your devices handle the increasing N-Factor on Scrypt-N coins? Will Scrypt-N mining be viable on your devices in the long term, or are your miners only able to mine to a set N-Factor?
dabs, we're all for trusted community members reviewing our products and will be in contact shortly after we're closer to having a prototype. We also plan to launch an affiliate program that may be of interest as well.
Thanks. I look forward to testing your prototype or even the production unit. (Just make sure it's working before you send it to me, pretend I'm a clue less miner / customer.)
dabs, we're all for trusted community members reviewing our products and will be in contact shortly after we're closer to having a prototype. We also plan to launch an affiliate program that may be of interest as well.
Hi,
I would be honored to do an honest review of your units if you ship me a sample. I will make a post about it including usage, power consumption according to watt meters, hashrate as reported by the device and as reported by several pools.
I've got a decent track record and am a long time member of this forum. I also do escrow.
Send your units to two other reputable members in exchange for their honest reviews, and I'm sure you will increase your sales a lot.
The guy who sent me the first dual miner, has probably sold thousands of it already.
You may contact me by sending me a GPG encrypted email at the address of my public key, which I use to sign all escrow contracts, and I will reply with my shipping address. (I am located in the Philippines, so if you're stuff are coming from Taiwan or China, it's pretty close.)
Dabs
I would be honored to do an honest review of your units if you ship me a sample. I will make a post about it including usage, power consumption according to watt meters, hashrate as reported by the device and as reported by several pools.
I've got a decent track record and am a long time member of this forum. I also do escrow.
Send your units to two other reputable members in exchange for their honest reviews, and I'm sure you will increase your sales a lot.
The guy who sent me the first dual miner, has probably sold thousands of it already.
You may contact me by sending me a GPG encrypted email at the address of my public key, which I use to sign all escrow contracts, and I will reply with my shipping address. (I am located in the Philippines, so if you're stuff are coming from Taiwan or China, it's pretty close.)
Dabs
Look, honestly I hope you guys are legit.
You should however do a few things to increase your credibility like providing review sample(s), allow local pickups, escrow, etc... I don't actually know, read around the forum on Bitcoin hardware and see how other vendors gained it.
It is that some of us are fed up of scams. And vendor's word, promises and say so, are worthless.
Edit: I've read your release date is Nov 2014, yet the 100 Mh/s unit is 45% more expensive than KnC pre-order. Well, your prices will surely come down.
You should however do a few things to increase your credibility like providing review sample(s), allow local pickups, escrow, etc... I don't actually know, read around the forum on Bitcoin hardware and see how other vendors gained it.
It is that some of us are fed up of scams. And vendor's word, promises and say so, are worthless.
Edit: I've read your release date is Nov 2014, yet the 100 Mh/s unit is 45% more expensive than KnC pre-order. Well, your prices will surely come down.
I did not make this post to stir up resentment, nor was it my intention to offer you false promises. Our business is not built solely on collecting pre-order, rather it's a way for potential customers to get in line early -- the choice is yours. Again, we have deep experience in chip design, operational experience, as well as team members who have worked in the Bitcoin mining space, and our goal is to build and deliver the best products to market.
OP, I offer you the opportunity of a reverse pre-order.
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
Intersting
OP, I offer you the opportunity of a reverse pre-order.
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
Greatest idea ever, we need to roll this out immediately.
OP, I offer you the opportunity of a reverse pre-order.
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
This is how the greedy asic industry should work.
OP, I offer you the opportunity of a reverse pre-order.
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
It works like this: you make the product. You ship it to me. I will mine with and promise to pay 3 months later, with the condition of I fail to pay up to 6 months later, you get your miner back.
Deal?
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately that's the risk you take to get product early and potentially get higher ROI. Wish it could be different!
Such bullshit.This retarded pre-order business is still happening because greed and BFL met one dark night, that's it. From there to set it as common ground to all future endeavors in the cryptocurrency world is just outrageous.
Not to mention you have ZERO credibility to ask for pre-order money from people.
P.S. From your website:
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The founding team has over 20+ years of experience in the semiconductor, network security, and cryptocurrency industries
20+ in the crypto industry (as if) and you never released a SHA-256 ASIC miner (with all your decades of experience) which is easier and cheaper to make than a Scrypt one?
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately that's the risk you take to get product early and potentially get higher ROI. Wish it could be different!
No man, it is not the risk "I/we" take, it is the precedent set by BFL then assumed as being a "rule" of the market. This leads to trumping of even most basic consumer rights laws in some countries. Of course, people may want to gamble on your offer since you are theoretically competitive with the KnC pre-order. But today anyone can evaluate the cost of Gridseed units which can have in hand, some even demanding escrow in this same forum.
But I have to be fair, I don't want to litter the thread with distractions. Good luck for your business!
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately that's the risk you take to get product early and potentially get higher ROI. Wish it could be different!
No pre-order beats having hardware in hand.
Hi everyone,
It’s been a crazy 48 hours. On Tuesday March 18th, we officially announced the launch of our Neon series of Scrypt-based currency miners. At the time, we spec’ed our systems to outperform the miners from Alpha Technology with twice the amount of hashing power at 50% the energy consumption per kH, which was the best offering on the market.
Yesterday, we learned that KnC was launching Titan, a Scrypt miner with aggressive performance at an attractive price point. Although Titan cannot mine Scrypt-N currencies such Vertcoin and other ‘ASIC resistant’ coins nor optimize which currency is being mined at the hardware level as with our Neon miners, we were impressed nonetheless. The KnC team comprise of very talented guys with a respected track record. Thus, we went back to the whiteboard with a big pot of coffee and thought hard about how we could further improve our product offering.
We figured it out.
With some changes to our PCB boards (full-length vs. half-length cards) and stuffing more boards into the existing chassis, we effectively doubled the hashing power of each model. We decided rename the models to avoid confusion and all the while, keeping prices the same! Everyone who purchased our miners in the past couple days has been automatically upgraded to the larger models.
We are really excited to share more details about Neon, as we plan to be more active in the cryptocurrency community so you should start seeing us more at tradeshows, meetups, and very soon hosting Google Hangout sessions.
Here are our revised specs: You can also view them here: http://blissdevices.com/shop
Neon C08: PCIe Card
Performance: 8MH/s
Power cons: 40W
Price: $1,440
Neon M32: Stand-alone Box
Performance: 32MH/s
Power cons: 300W
Price: $5,400
Neon M100: 4U rack-mountable Chassis unit
Performance: 100MH/s
Power cons: 800W
Price: $14,400
We will continue to do everything possible to be competitive and keep our customers happy! If you have any questions or would just like to chat, feel free to reach me at [email protected], as we understand how important it is to earn the trust of the community.
Paul Chen
CEO of Bliss Devices
It’s been a crazy 48 hours. On Tuesday March 18th, we officially announced the launch of our Neon series of Scrypt-based currency miners. At the time, we spec’ed our systems to outperform the miners from Alpha Technology with twice the amount of hashing power at 50% the energy consumption per kH, which was the best offering on the market.
Yesterday, we learned that KnC was launching Titan, a Scrypt miner with aggressive performance at an attractive price point. Although Titan cannot mine Scrypt-N currencies such Vertcoin and other ‘ASIC resistant’ coins nor optimize which currency is being mined at the hardware level as with our Neon miners, we were impressed nonetheless. The KnC team comprise of very talented guys with a respected track record. Thus, we went back to the whiteboard with a big pot of coffee and thought hard about how we could further improve our product offering.
We figured it out.
With some changes to our PCB boards (full-length vs. half-length cards) and stuffing more boards into the existing chassis, we effectively doubled the hashing power of each model. We decided rename the models to avoid confusion and all the while, keeping prices the same! Everyone who purchased our miners in the past couple days has been automatically upgraded to the larger models.
We are really excited to share more details about Neon, as we plan to be more active in the cryptocurrency community so you should start seeing us more at tradeshows, meetups, and very soon hosting Google Hangout sessions.
Here are our revised specs: You can also view them here: http://blissdevices.com/shop
Neon C08: PCIe Card
Performance: 8MH/s
Power cons: 40W
Price: $1,440
Neon M32: Stand-alone Box
Performance: 32MH/s
Power cons: 300W
Price: $5,400
Neon M100: 4U rack-mountable Chassis unit
Performance: 100MH/s
Power cons: 800W
Price: $14,400
We will continue to do everything possible to be competitive and keep our customers happy! If you have any questions or would just like to chat, feel free to reach me at [email protected], as we understand how important it is to earn the trust of the community.
Paul Chen
CEO of Bliss Devices
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