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January 31, 2019, 03:09:25 AM
#13
The input is the signed transaction ID...
It's essentially the way you send bitcoin by getting someone to send you coins as an output and you going on to send coins as an input.

Ah, I know generally what the input is =) Just wondering how it is applicable here. Does buwaytress  want to see groupings by input for the channel funding transactions? Not sure...
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January 30, 2019, 06:03:39 PM
#12
The input is the signed transaction ID...
It's essentially the way you send bitcoin by getting someone to send you coins as an output and you going on to send coins as an input.
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January 30, 2019, 02:37:34 PM
#11
Glad you found that useful. I now see your open issue on Blockchair GH... good news is that it seems to be a recognised bug and you'll have made the fix possible! I haven't had the opportunity to truly use all the explorers out there but Blockchair's pretty much the best deal to me for native SW support... which makes me wonder if those others I mentioned would have caught up.

Lightning analysis will be even more interesting I think, though there's already some explorers like 1ML and LightBlock - admittedly with very basic analytics atm, don't seem to see groupings by input available.

Hi,

May ask what do you imply by "input"? Do you mean capacity?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
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December 21, 2018, 02:33:39 PM
#10
Glad you found that useful. I now see your open issue on Blockchair GH... good news is that it seems to be a recognised bug and you'll have made the fix possible! I haven't had the opportunity to truly use all the explorers out there but Blockchair's pretty much the best deal to me for native SW support... which makes me wonder if those others I mentioned would have caught up.

Lightning analysis will be even more interesting I think, though there's already some explorers like 1ML and LightBlock - admittedly with very basic analytics atm, don't seem to see groupings by input available.

Like I said, I ended up using chain.so, their API is very simple but it includes the raw transaction for both segwit and non-segwit and that's really all I need, fancy dancy parsing with no consistent functionality wasn't really going to work out for me.

I should totally look into the lightning network soon too :p haven't had the time to see all the node setups and functionality available through it.


https://www.walletexplorer.com/ has a subset of these features... It's not as extensive as blockseer, but for me, it usually does the trick.
I've found matbea (https://matbea.net/) quite useful in the past as well, but it seems that the site is slighly broken.

It used to track adresses like Walletexplorer, but also included exchanges such as coinbase, bitflyer.jp,  et al.

(I'm not entirely sure if it still does so correctly.)

EDIT, just tried it: Seems like it still indexes coinbase adresses. Not sure how accurate it all is though.

Functional and simple, looks like they even have comments for each holder too.

Found it very funny that their api docs is strictly in russian Cheesy
legendary
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December 21, 2018, 01:53:35 PM
#9

https://www.walletexplorer.com/ has a subset of these features... It's not as extensive as blockseer, but for me, it usually does the trick.
I've found matbea (https://matbea.net/) quite useful in the past as well, but it seems that the site is slighly broken.

It used to track adresses like Walletexplorer, but also included exchanges such as coinbase, bitflyer.jp,  et al.

(I'm not entirely sure if it still does so correctly.)

EDIT, just tried it: Seems like it still indexes coinbase adresses. Not sure how accurate it all is though.
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December 21, 2018, 08:37:17 AM
#8
Glad you found that useful. I now see your open issue on Blockchair GH... good news is that it seems to be a recognised bug and you'll have made the fix possible! I haven't had the opportunity to truly use all the explorers out there but Blockchair's pretty much the best deal to me for native SW support... which makes me wonder if those others I mentioned would have caught up.

Lightning analysis will be even more interesting I think, though there's already some explorers like 1ML and LightBlock - admittedly with very basic analytics atm, don't seem to see groupings by input available.
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December 20, 2018, 07:47:04 AM
#7
As funny as it is, but the best tool is your brain, the are a lot of websites, but you can not trust them fully as they might be wrong.


Why would they be wrong? Taint just looks for :

Transactions signed by different addresses at the same time confirming they are of the same owner.
And follows output signatures from the coinbase transaction down to where they landed.

These two things are impossible to get wrong.
Walletexplorer doesn't do the latter, and I tried OXT but I found it a bit slow/over-complicated.

The error could come from other analysis tools that try to uncover mixing transactions by using output values and dates. But those are rare, I can understand how that can be hard to accurately track.

Can never seem to locate my bookmarks! BlockSci is probably one of the more popular and regularly updated open source tool. BTCSpark and Blockparser a bit farther behind.

Project Devt section's had a few new tools out in the past few months. Scroll back some pages.

Or if you're as avaerage Joe as me, maybe even simple tools like on Blockchair.com is enough to interest you on a Sunday afternoon.


Great recommendations! Thanks. I know blockchair because I wanted to use them for something completely different through their API, but I ended up using chain.so.

EDIT : I remembered now why I didn't use blockchair Finding an API that fully supports SegWit transactions was a pain in the ass Cheesy

Those other libraries look great though, I'll try to find the time to go through them.
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December 20, 2018, 07:45:55 AM
#6
As funny as it is, but the best tool is your brain, the are a lot of websites, but you can not trust them fully as they might be wrong.


Well... True, to some degree...
If you need to figure out which addresses belong to the same wallet based on grouping addresses whose funding unspent outputs have been used together as an input for a new transaction AND combine this with knowledge which of these addresses are publicly known AND calculate potential taint to discover which wallets might belong to the same user and/or which addresses were funded by potential criminals, usually I don't think you'll manage by just using your brain (exept for simple or clear-cut cases).

At some point, you'll need a good analytic tool, you'll need a good database and a good algorithm to analyse the data for you... And since i don't have a problem saying that i don't have the funds, the time, the team nor the knowledge to pull off a full analysis, i'm happy to use a premade tool... This does not mean you should drop your guard, you always have to use your due diligence when using outputs from an external tool.
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December 20, 2018, 07:44:59 AM
#5
Can never seem to locate my bookmarks! BlockSci is probably one of the more popular and regularly updated open source tool. BTCSpark and Blockparser a bit farther behind.

Project Devt section's had a few new tools out in the past few months. Scroll back some pages.

Or if you're as avaerage Joe as me, maybe even simple tools like on Blockchair.com is enough to interest you on a Sunday afternoon.
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December 20, 2018, 07:25:08 AM
#4
As funny as it is, but the best tool is your brain, the are a lot of websites, but you can not trust them fully as they might be wrong.
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December 17, 2018, 07:11:01 AM
#2
I used to use this website way way back : https://www.blockseer.com/

But it looks like they cut off the free service and switched to a private paid service :/

"Please email [email protected] to inquire about an account. Free accounts have been disabled. Thanks."

Anyone knows of any tools that are similar to this website that have blockchain/taint analysis tools? It was really good, it could follow inputs/outputs all the way to the block they were generated from, grouped connected addresses together, had tags/names for exchange cold/hot wallets, and custom tags from other users, and so on..

Thanks!

https://www.walletexplorer.com/ has a subset of these features... It's not as extensive as blockseer, but for me, it usually does the trick.
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December 17, 2018, 07:09:41 AM
#1
I used to use this website way way back : https://www.blockseer.com/

But it looks like they cut off the free service and switched to a private paid service :/

"Please email [email protected] to inquire about an account. Free accounts have been disabled. Thanks."

Anyone knows of any tools that are similar to this website that have blockchain/taint analysis tools? It was really good, it could follow inputs/outputs all the way to the block they were generated from, grouped connected addresses together, had tags/names for exchange cold/hot wallets, and custom tags from other users, and so on..

Thanks!
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