Topic: Blockchain and Gaming - X WINNER's Innovative Approach (Lottery as the 1st game (Read 256 times)

I just try the game but overall the game is a bit confusing.
there is no info about how much the price of every ticket that we buy and even the betting history is not a real-time update.
I think it will be good if we can know the results of every ticket that we buy because if we do the view all it just give the total how much we got

I apologize for any confusion or misunderstanding caused by my post. I understand your concerns and I agree that transparency is key when it comes to introducing a project on this forum. I will take your advice and work on creating an ANN thread as well as providing more personal information to build trust with the community. Thank you for your feedback.

Thanks for your kind words and for taking the time to share your thoughts with us. We appreciate your support nonetheless.
Please feel free to reach out to us if you have any further questions or suggestions. Thank you again for your support!

It's really hard to tell you know, you can't judge someone this way because I don't see anything wrong with this thread right now, how is this a garbage? What are your expectations? Everyone starts from somewhere.

OP, you need to do more than this to actually confuse members on the forum to at least look into your project, where is the ANN thread? The most confusing part is your profile which is still fairly new, if a newbie is introducing any project on this forum majority of people will feel it's going nowhere.

Most scammers on here use new profiles to introduce something like this and they are almost all scam attempts, I do hope you understand, if you are far from this then you need to build an ANN and try as much as possible to stay transparent.

What garbage you are talking about? I don't see anything wrong with what the OP posted. On chain betting exist long time ago but that does not mean that it will not be used anymore by a new gambling company. Did you know that many people are looking for the same type of betting? Because there's almost nothing that exist right now.

I don't really know the reason why they are dying when their feature are interesting than on what we have nowadays. The title says "as the first game" but it doesn't mean they are the first. It only means this was their first game and there are more to come later on. People in this thread should cool down a little.

well, many people who have posted on this thread have already said that for years all projects of this type have failed, so I would like to ask the following:

Since many projects of this nature have failed over the years, did you carry out a feasibility study before starting this project? in case you have done a feasibility study before starting this project, what was the degree of success that you will predict? how do you intend to compete with freebitco.in's centralized lottery service knowing that for many years now they have been unbeatable leaders in this branch of online lotteries?

I think the biggest problem with this lottery idea is that people in the crypto world enter this market with clear objectives of making a lot of money quickly and with that they put money in bitcoin and altcoins and do hodl, and when they go into gambling too they go with the objective of earning money even knowing that it is a more difficult mission, so in games of chance buying a lottery ticket online is something that people do not like, and that is why at freebitco.in they have more games and give away free tickets, they it doesn't just have lottery games, any site that only has lottery games is doomed to failure in my opinion

Thank you for your feedback! We're glad to hear that you're interested in our project and appreciate your support for our focus on transparency and trustlessness. We're always looking for ways to improve and differentiate ourselves from other gambling sites, so we'd love to hear any suggestions or ideas you may have for unique features that we could implement. Please feel free to share any thoughts you have with us.

Thank you for your positive feedback, it means a lot to us. We will continue to work hard to improve our platform and provide a user-friendly experience for our players. Your support is greatly appreciated.

It is one of the sites that I like, in addition, the platform is adaptable, it is easy, and as you have Already been told, I like your faucet, not because it has the usdt and matic, it is considerable that casinos and sites today do not put a faucet because It Generates a lot of problems for you, because of the abusers and everything that has to do with all that, you are doing well,you don't put so many barriers, it is known that it is difficult to abuse a system because you detect it,I think that is what it is about ,improve and I also see them as one of the best little sites.

Thank you for your feedback, ufaiz50. We appreciate your interest in our project and your support for our commitment to transparency and trust. We have implemented some unique features in our platform, such as SFT and LOTS, that we believe will set us apart from other lottery-based gambling sites. Our SFT allows users to buy and sell game shares, while LOTS is designed to reward users with different amounts of game shares per game based on the Fibonacci sequence. We believe these features will add an exciting and unique dimension to our platform that will appeal to players who are looking for something new and different in the blockchain gambling space.

Thank you for your comment and feedback. We appreciate your interest in our project. Regarding your concern, we understand that transparency and fairness are crucial for any blockchain-based gambling service, including lottery games.

Regarding open source and smart contract audit, we are still doing many rounds of testing and optimization to ensure the best user experience and fair gameplay. Once we launch on the mainnet, we plan to make our smart contract open to the public, except for the algorithm contract. We also plan to conduct more audits in the future. We believe that this will help build trust in our platform and ensure the best possible gaming experience for our users.

Thank you again for your interest, and please stay tuned for updates on our progress.

I think that was not new although I am interested to your new project and I really like the fact that you are promoting transparency and trustless system, who wouldn't wanted that right? Anyway maybe you can make it more interesting adding some features that other gambling site that offers lottery don't have? As people would use existing reputable site rather than new ones if they are just the same.

Thank you for your comment and for expressing your concerns about trust in the smart contract. We completely understand the importance of fair play and trust in the gaming industry, especially in decentralized platforms. That's why we have taken multiple steps to ensure the fairness and security of our platform. We have conducted an audit with Certik for our previous version and have made several improvements. We are also planning to conduct another audit by the end of the month to ensure that everything is in order. Our team is committed to providing the best experience for our players, and we will continue to take all necessary steps to maintain the trust of our community.
https://skynet.certik.com/projects/3525-lottery

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on our lottery-based project. We appreciate your concerns regarding the sustainability and profitability of the platform. We completely understand your point that someone needs to put money in the lottery to attract users, and someone is winning money each time a user buys a ticket. To address these concerns, we have implemented the ERC 3525 protocol for profit distribution. We will distribute LOTS to early adopters, which can be considered game shares, leading to a very high RoR for users. This approach ensures that profits are distributed fairly and transparently among all stakeholders. We believe that this innovative approach will make our platform a sustainable and profitable venture in the long run.

Thank you for your comment. You are correct that many GameFi platforms have struggled to maintain a sustainable growth of players. We have taken this into consideration from the very beginning and have implemented a multi-level marketing system to encourage player growth and retention. We are confident that this approach will help us to build a strong and loyal player community, and we appreciate your interest in our project.

Thank you for taking the time to try out our lottery site and for your feedback. We apologize for any inconvenience you experienced with the USDT faucet, and we are currently running on testnet to make sure everything is perfect before we launch on the mainnet. The MATIC faucet is working on the testnet, and it is meant for testing purposes only.
We are glad to hear that you are interested in trying our polygon network-based lottery. We believe that it will provide an exciting and low-cost opportunity for players to win big.

The only shocking thing is the garbage some people post in this section.

This exists a long time already, so promoting some random casino with this kind of thread is just hilarious.

Better luck next time, nobody will register at this site because if this thread. 

Well, I totally agree with what you said, what I think is that they need a very good marketing strategy and promotional material that will make viewers excited about the platform and the games and products it provides. Even if the business model isn't very new, they can still do pretty well using it if they know how to manage things initially.

If their platform proves to be good, especially with the rewards and interesting games, they might even gain some popularity within this forum as well after they launch the platform and manage to get some popularity outside with their marketing.

^That is definitely right and like me how many of us here witnessed that the lottery game did not have an interest to the gamblers.
The main reason is that the odds of winning the lottery jackpot are typically very low, often less than 1 in several million. This means that players have a very small chance of winning a significant amount of money, which can make the game less appealing to some. So now, OP, how you can make your platform unique so that everyone will have an interest in the lottery?
With the rise of online gambling and other forms of entertainment, some players may choose to spend their money and time on other activities instead of playing the lottery.

This is not new anymore but at least, developer are tying their best to enter the competition.
There’s always a room for a new projects and if this one succeed, the better. Trying to understand now how this site works, will need to know more information about this first before anything else. Lottery is fine for me as lot us its fairness is ok and doing this on a blockchain can be more ok, maybe this site just need more market exposure.

People simply prefer to stick to the centralized casinos which they already know and trust.
Part of it, I assume it must be because the bulk of the gamblers do not even know how to read code and verify the fairness of an entire casino before starting to play, added to the fact each interaction with smart contracts can be translated to a transaction and the fees associated to it. Gamblers just want to deposit and play.

There is still a long path ahead before decentralized gambling can become mainstream, in my opinion. 

I started to read your gitbook to see how this would be innovative or shocking compared to other blockchain games. And as an idea it's not original, people have been trying to keep similar sites alive more or less successfully.

But an instant red flag right away is revenue forecast. If you are building something revolutionary (which you are not) you don't start my transparent marketing tapping on human greed. If you need to sell it by promising moon from the sky by comparing your casino to global game market. That just shows that you don't trust your own product. You would talk about your tech and game theory if you had something to talk about. yours reminded me cash grab ICOs of 2017 that failed or got sued.

You know i can make a token that could be used in dental industry and compare the whole dental industry revenue to that. It doesn't mean it would get any users or had value in the future.

I have not seen lottery games system in the decentralized system before. This is a welcome development. But I have seen the pancake in binance and trust wallets. And not on gaming sites. For the last paragraph of you, I agreed with that, if such does exist, I have not seen success of the lottery games on the chain. But persistent trial can lead to the successful break through of lottery games in the ecosystem.

The Pancake lottery system was implemented two years ago just as the Reddit thread was created. Doesn't sound shocking I have seen this on the lottery system in one of the casinos that offer gambling tokens for shared revenue.

Can't say people will really play on a decentralized casino even if its code is open source, there are lots of them trying hard but none successfully made it.

You are absolutely correct my friend, this is exactly the same direction I was going to in my previous comment, like you said, this is not the first decentralized lottery game being announced on this forum, there have been many of them, but at the current states of things, centralized casinos that have built a good reputation over time are trusted more than any decentralized casino at the moment, this is why non of the previously announced decentralized casino have succeeded so far.

For me personally, before I can try any decentralized casino or lottery system, the owners must make the code of the entire system open source, and must present a full smart contract audit from a reputable and reliable audit company, any thing less, I will prefer to keep playing on centralized casino I trust.

Yes, that's true, because if we look deeper into these two words, it's clear that the two have quite a big difference.
No one can provide excerpts from these two audits as they really have to be held accountable and otherwise reputation is at stake.
Maybe he said this to gain the trust of all of us but he forgot that we have different and more advanced interpretations and thoughts of course. I'm not sure he has any other options to offer because what he's offering is a statement that isn't necessarily true.

I am glad to see websites popping up with blockchain gambling services. But blockchain lottery is nothing new, really. A lot of such projects like to make claims like "trustless and transparent" however they fail to provide an open source as well as a a smart contract audit and a non-custodial wallet experience. So unless your lottery system has been tried and proven by the community, I would not be ready to accept such grandiose claims. Decentralized does not automatically make it "provably fair".


I think word trust should not be used together with "provably fair". A Certik security audit is not the same as an audit in functionality and fairness. So which audits other than security audits can you offer?

This is a good good development I must say, I tried checking the site out, but unfortunately, it's not loading for me, I don't know what could be the reason but that by the way..

Games, be it lottery or gambling games, built on-chain are decentralized quite alright, and win or loss is determined by the smart contract as stated by the op, but my major concern here is trust, how can players really trust that the smart contract is not rigged/rugged, i.e written with some malicious code in it to ensure that the game favors the owners the most, and favor the user a little, just so the users don't suspect fowl play?

This I believe is something you guys will have to really assure the community of, else, many are just gonna be skeptical.

This kind of lottery as you mention is probably fair, and we can verify their fairness in the smart contract, all good at that point, but talking about a decentralized project, I'm not totally sure about that for the next two factors... 1.- Someone has to put the money in the lottery to make it attractive to the users and 2.- Someone is winning money each time a user buys a ticket, and that profit hasn't to be direct profit, I mean, they can profit with the fees on that transaction if it's in their own token, or by bumping the token price in the market.

from what we have seen from previous lottery-based platforms, they didn't survive because they couldn't sustain the interest of players. they may get the attention at initial launch but after even couple of months, there will be less and less players that will join the lottery game.
so yeah, this may not be a very new idea here. but if they can sustain or increase their number of players throughout their operations, that would be a success story.

Don’t take personally such comment from him. Your title probably is just to catchy for the games you are offering that is not new here. I believe on a successful business for decentralized game like this. You should just make the approach more professional and not like this.

Most of the decentralised casino nowadays has lottery and scratch cards games in the house game. Making it as your only game will make you inferior to other casino since all of them is offering various type of game that most user here preferred than a single lottery game.

In fact, their approach might not be so bad if used in other kinds of media. Because, does the average Joe know that lottery systems in blockchain exist since 2017?

Here in Bitcointalk most members know a lot about crypto and blockchain and what is seen as an innovation outside this circle seems old-fashioned here. And it doesn't mean that, although the concept is not brand new, it can't succeed in another markets with another targets.

All the best from me too. As a recommendation, avoid such dramatic expressions here, because those who read shocking can feel disappointed if the content of the OP doesn't surprise them.

I don't have a lot to say, since this idea is not new in this space anymore, those who embarked on this journey years ago failed, but I am not saying failure is yours too, I do wish you guys all the best.

The best advice I can give you guys is to stand out among the rest, since this is not a new thing in this space anymore, you need a better strategy to confuse people that you guys are different, do it differently and introduce something appealing.

Like you've said, it's not always about the cash grab, it's always about the experience. All the best

After I tried to open your lottery site it seemed to provide a MATIC faucet and a USDT faucet, but only MATIC worked when I clicked the button and it appeared like a testnet.
My question is whether the faucet is obtained from the testnet and can it be used to purchase lottery tickets?
On the USDT faucet when I click it doesn't work like the MATIC faucet or maybe this is under development or something went wrong?
This polygon network-based lottery will be an interesting lottery to try at a low cost.
But I think I prefer the bitcoin network-based lottery because it's my favorite coin.

Thank you for your feedback and insights. We understand that the lottery industry is not new, but we believe that our approach and technology can bring a fresh perspective and innovation to the market. We appreciate your interest in our project and would love for you to take a look at our documentation. Your suggestions and feedback are always welcome as we strive to continuously improve and evolve our platform.

Do you and your team don’t browse much in the internet because blockchain based game especially lottery is not new anymore. I think I saw first lottery games that based on blockchain during 2017 but most of them didn't succeed because of the few interest in this type of game.

It's shocking that we are on year 2023 that you finally launched this kind of game that is already available 5 years ago.

On-chain lottery and scratch games are decentralized gaming applications built on a blockchain network. These games allow users to participate in a trustless and transparent environment, where the game results are determined by smart contracts and recorded on the blockchain. By using blockchain technology, on-chain lottery and scratch games eliminate the need for intermediaries and ensure that the games are provably fair. Players can trust that the games are not rigged or manipulated, and the payout system is automated, making it quick and secure. Moreover, the use of cryptocurrencies as the primary payment method enables players from all over the world to participate in the games without being limited by geographical boundaries or financial institutions.

There are several "Lottery system" on chain, we take pancake lottery as an example, here are some comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/myymvw/pancakeswap_lottery_is_extremely_suspicious/?onetap_auto=true
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ohqxt5/tried_the_pancake_swap_lottery_with_one_ticket_on/

Our team figure out that the primary goal of lotteries is to provide entertainment, it's worth noting that for many players, winning money is a significant part of the appeal. Lottery games that offer large cash prizes and the chance to change one's financial situation can be a powerful draw. That being said, it's important for lottery operators to ensure that their games are fair, transparent, and enjoyable for all players, and not solely focused on maximizing profits.

Our team have being developing lottery system for over 6 months. We would like share our ideas and get more feedbacks from players!!
If you are interested please check out @ alpha.xwinner.win. Since the game is running on polygon mumbai network, which means it is free!
Please try it out and let us know where to improve !!

Gitbook: https://xwinnergame.gitbook.io/x-winner/xwinner-introduction/x-winner