We can only speculate on the reasons, but why do they not offer both?
Let their customers decide on what is the best for them.
Topic: Blockchain.com Shared send feature gone????? (Read 5149 times)
"I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to worry" is a fairy tale for adults. It astonishes me how people are so stupid to spend time coming up with reasons why they don't need maximum absolute anonymity. Poor souls, I feel sorry for them. It's like when we are children and our parents say to us: "one day you will understand". Well, one day you will understand why you need maximum absolute anonymity, because it doesn't matter what anyone tells you now you won't understand. Hopefully when you understand it won't be too late.
Now back to Blockchain's Shared Send:
Blockchain recently terminated the Shared Send service in favour of Shared Coin. Don't you think it could be a "warning"? Because with Shared Coin, no matter how many repetitions you do (and it's up to 10 only), it's not truly anonymous. Of course it can be very difficult to trace you back, but still not impossible. Besides, it's difficult now, but one year from now new forensic algorithms and technologies may be invented that could make this task very easy. On the other side Shared Send was supposedly truly anonymous, they kept logs for 8 hours and it's over, it kinda "broke" the chain completely.
They are advertising Shared Coin as a private service but terminated Shared Send which was truly anonymous.
What do you think?
Now back to Blockchain's Shared Send:
Blockchain recently terminated the Shared Send service in favour of Shared Coin. Don't you think it could be a "warning"? Because with Shared Coin, no matter how many repetitions you do (and it's up to 10 only), it's not truly anonymous. Of course it can be very difficult to trace you back, but still not impossible. Besides, it's difficult now, but one year from now new forensic algorithms and technologies may be invented that could make this task very easy. On the other side Shared Send was supposedly truly anonymous, they kept logs for 8 hours and it's over, it kinda "broke" the chain completely.
They are advertising Shared Coin as a private service but terminated Shared Send which was truly anonymous.
What do you think?
This is a fair point, but you get these "tainted" coins from mixing anyway (perhaps at a lower percentage)
Chances are, most members here already have some of those.
I am sure FBI would waste their time throwing people in jail (hundreds or may be thousands) for receiving some odd 0.1 from a shady buyer
The examples given here are too extreme. Can't compare Silk Road laundry man to a everyday bitcoin user
Chances are, most members here already have some of those.
I am sure FBI would waste their time throwing people in jail (hundreds or may be thousands) for receiving some odd 0.1 from a shady buyer
The examples given here are too extreme. Can't compare Silk Road laundry man to a everyday bitcoin user
Please come back down to Earth guys...
We are talking about buying bitcoins and spending bitcoins here.
Why is there a need to mix coins if I buy, let's say a graphics card, from a website
with coins that I mined, or coins I bought from an exchange?
Why is there a need to mix coins when I want to buy a beer with bitcoins?
The "privacy" you guys outlined are on a totally diffierent level to
the "privacy" issues involved in spending bitcoins. Don't mix them up.
We are talking about buying bitcoins and spending bitcoins here.
Why is there a need to mix coins if I buy, let's say a graphics card, from a website
with coins that I mined, or coins I bought from an exchange?
Why is there a need to mix coins when I want to buy a beer with bitcoins?
The "privacy" you guys outlined are on a totally diffierent level to
the "privacy" issues involved in spending bitcoins. Don't mix them up.
Isn't that what Shrem is up against? Buying, spending, selling bitcoin?
Seems some of the folks he was trading with were doing things his government didn't like.
Just because you have nothing to hide, doesn't mean you have nothing to protect.
Perhaps your international business has competition and you don't want them to know your trading partners and the volumes?
There are so many reasons for this beyond just doing something illegal.
Governments also engage in industrial espionage. (Maybe even the US does this?)
well back to Earth then,
because maybe, the guy who bought something from you sent you coins which were tainted from a child pornography transaction and now you have them, and you'd like to cash them out unknowingly.
simple enough for you why to mix your coins?
"if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide" is a government fascist conspiracy. Your Papers Please!!
because maybe, the guy who bought something from you sent you coins which were tainted from a child pornography transaction and now you have them, and you'd like to cash them out unknowingly.
simple enough for you why to mix your coins?
"if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide" is a government fascist conspiracy. Your Papers Please!!
in this case, medUSA will go to jail instead of his unknow buyer
well back to Earth then,
because maybe, the guy who bought something from you sent you coins which were tainted from a child pornography transaction and now you have them, and you'd like to cash them out unknowingly.
simple enough for you why to mix your coins?
"if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide" is a government fascist conspiracy. Your Papers Please!!
because maybe, the guy who bought something from you sent you coins which were tainted from a child pornography transaction and now you have them, and you'd like to cash them out unknowingly.
simple enough for you why to mix your coins?
"if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to hide" is a government fascist conspiracy. Your Papers Please!!
Please come back down to Earth guys...
We are talking about buying bitcoins and spending bitcoins here.
Why is there a need to mix coins if I buy, let's say a graphics card, from a website
with coins that I mined, or coins I bought from an exchange?
Why is there a need to mix coins when I want to buy a beer with bitcoins?
The "privacy" you guys outlined are on a totally diffierent level to
the "privacy" issues involved in spending bitcoins. Don't mix them up.
We are talking about buying bitcoins and spending bitcoins here.
Why is there a need to mix coins if I buy, let's say a graphics card, from a website
with coins that I mined, or coins I bought from an exchange?
Why is there a need to mix coins when I want to buy a beer with bitcoins?
The "privacy" you guys outlined are on a totally diffierent level to
the "privacy" issues involved in spending bitcoins. Don't mix them up.
So you wouldn't mind your landlord upping the rent after learning your monthly income?
If my landlord learns how much I make a month, he would lower the rent.
Or choose not to renew your lease in favor of somebody with a higher income...
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Why would I mind? I have not done anything illegal.
Besides, FBI probably have all my addresses already.
Its a matter of principle. The fact you have nothing to hide doesn't justify those motherfucking creeps sticking their nose on your stuff.
Privacy is golden, and WE need to value it - otherwise we will cry when its gone for good.
This is why you just do not use Skype or any google product: use Jitsi for Voip (I convinced all my family and co-workers to do this) and alternate services as startpage.com for searches or MyKolab for emails. Again: its not a matter of having "something to hide", its a matter of protecting your privacy which is usually equal to protecting your very freedom.
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Why would I mind? I have not done anything illegal.
Besides, FBI probably have all my addresses already.
Please post your bank and credit card statements here. You have done nothing illegal, so nothing to hide right? [I am kidding, don't really post them]
If you really think privacy isn't important and only care about illegality, then read the book "Three Felonies A Day" from about 5 years ago. The contention is that the average person (in the US in this book, but it applies world-wide given the statists around) commits on average 3 felonies a day unintentionally. Even if they are off by a factor of 1000, that is still more than 1 per year and the attorneys who wrote it make a good case for their accuracy so I doubt they are off by that large a factor.
Selective enforcement is a real problem when everyone is committing a felony and can be used for many purposes in an authoritarian country. Many would argue that this is intentional so as to have power over the citizens of the country.
In short, don't be so sure you haven't done something illegal.
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Why would I mind? I have not done anything illegal.
Besides, FBI probably have all my addresses already.
Why would you mind someone knowing about your secret love while having a wife and some kids at home? You have not done anything illegal....
Why would you mind spending a few days in prison? You have done nothing illegal....
Why would you mind being framed by an agency because they had all the info they needed to do so readily available? You have done nothing illegal....
People have moral, ethical and personal beliefs regardless of some "democratically" elected "governments" opinion about what their slaves should do and what they shouldn't do and that is how it has always been and it always will be. It isn't less important to have financial privacy than it is to have privacy at home, in business etc, it's just what a few rich people make others believe by using their money to buy the mass media in order to keep their wealth ahead of everyone else.
I know it's hard to break out of that kind of conditioning but people have to turn off their freaking TVs already, stop reading those mind polluting magazines and get on with the real world ... Just try it for a second and you will see it doesn't hurt you if some weird agency knows less about you but there is always the potential for them or something that has not yet been invented to use every bit of information you are giving out right now ...
Edit: Sorry my post has gotten a little bit out of hand but I just can't stand it if people use a non-argument like "I have done nothing illegal".
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Why would I mind? I have not done anything illegal.
Besides, FBI probably have all my addresses already.
you know, many users of Blockchain.com do care very much about this
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Why would I mind? I have not done anything illegal.
Besides, FBI probably have all my addresses already.
First of all, this is BlockChain.info I guess
Sill they have deleted Shared Send which enabled more anonymisation than Shared Coin 
Most people who got there btc from legit transactions wouldn't need any mixing service.
If I really want to "mix" my coins, I will probably just send them to a dice site and withdraw.
If I really want to "mix" my coins, I will probably just send them to a dice site and withdraw.
what if the dice site gives out your received and destination address to the FBI?
Wait what? someone finally created Coinjoin? This is so awesome! 
There are a couple of previous attempts, search for andytoshi and coinmux.
Wait what? someone finally created Coinjoin? This is so awesome!
Wait how does it work? I know how Coinjoin works but why does this site require a blockchain.info account? Coinjoin should work without that...
So you wouldn't mind your landlord upping the rent after learning your monthly income?
If my landlord learns how much I make a month, he would lower the rent.
Most people who got there btc from legit transactions wouldn't need any mixing service.
So you wouldn't mind your landlord upping the rent after learning your monthly income?
Most people who got there btc from legit transactions wouldn't need any mixing service.
If I really want to "mix" my coins, I will probably just send them to a dice site and withdraw.
If I really want to "mix" my coins, I will probably just send them to a dice site and withdraw.
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service?
If everyone uses this, eventually all coins end up being "tainted".
Wow. That is awesome.
Damn straight! If Matthew N. Wright was still around, he would update the following image:
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service? [thereby removing all taint]
I certainly believe in our right to privacy, but I don't understand the need to remove 100% of the taint. Using SharedCoin with, say, 4 relays, you've really made a mess of the link between the sending and receiving addresses.
Can someone give me an example when this would not be sufficient?
A few of my family members have invested in bitcoin. Nearly all of our address share taint (I've checked!). I don't see why my sister can't cash out her coins independently of my grandmother. So what if they share taint?
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service? [thereby removing all taint]
I certainly believe in our right to privacy, but I don't understand the need to remove 100% of the taint. Using SharedCoin with, say, 4 relays, you've really made a mess of the link between the sending and receiving addresses.
Can someone give me an example when this would not be sufficient?
A few of my family members have invested in bitcoin. Nearly all of our address share taint (I've checked!). I don't see why my sister can't cash out her coins independently of my grandmother. So what if they share taint?
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service? [thereby removing all taint]
I certainly believe in our right to privacy, but I don't understand the need to remove 100% of the taint. Using SharedCoin with, say, 4 relays, you've really made a mess of the link between the sending and receiving addresses.
Can someone give me an example when this would not be sufficient?
Thanks for sharing this!
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service? [thereby removing all taint]
I certainly believe in our right to privacy, but I don't understand the need to remove 100% of the taint. Using SharedCoin with, say, 4 relays, you've really made a mess of the link between the sending and receiving addresses.
Can someone give me an example when this would not be sufficient?
I heard the shared coin still leaves a connection to the original coins, where as shared send was a complete tumbling service?
Wow. That is awesome.
Anyone know why?
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