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Topic: Blockchain.info AND Blockexplorer.com down? (Read 2828 times)

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Come original.
Is blockexplorer tied to blockchain.info in any way? Weird they would go down at the same time.
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You can also choose (like I do) to keep most of your bitcoins in a paper wallet and load it on blockchai as a "watch only" address, which means that you don't provide BC with your private key, but your address only. Even if BC is hacked or they shut down, you don't loose anything since you never gave them your private key.


Can you do this with the app and does it still notify you when you spend or recieve coins?

Not sure if the newer version on android can, I have the old version and it doesn't notify, but you can watch the address anytime you want. If you don't need to spend or move big amounts of coins suddenly and quickly, stay safe and keep the greatest amount of your bitcoins in a safe cold wallet!
newbie
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A private key  is random 256 bit number stored in the wallet (not the key to access it) and are used by it to sign transactions. The private key is part of a key pair, the other part being a public key, a number calculated from the private key using elliptic curve algorithm.
The bitcoin address is a base58check encoded RIPEMD-160 hash of a SHA-256 hash of the public key.  If you don't know what a hash is, it's a mathematical function.

Private key > Public Key > address

Those functions are not reversible (or at least it is not computationally feasible to calculate the private key when you have only the public key and the public key when you have the address), so you can disclose the address without fear of your public key being calculated. But if you have a private key, you can calculate all the rest and therefore spend every bitcoin associated with that address.

The identifier requested by blockchain, it's simply a login identifier for blockchain, like your login account for any other service. It's not connected in any way with your private key.


Thanks for the detailed explanation  Smiley

If I have backed up my BTC blockchain.info wallet do I need to use this in anyway, or just make sure my back up is protected as the private key is a means to hack my account and not needed by myself for the operation of my wallet? many thanks
You still confuss 2 things.

Privat Key=Wallet
and
blockchain.info=Wallet Software

(that is also not 100% accurat)

If someone has your Privat Key, he doesn't need your blockchain account.
You can Import a privat key in any wallet-software(e.g. Bitcoin Core/Bitcoin QT) and just spend the Bitcoin as you like.

A privat key is the Thing you have to Keep most secure.
Your blockchain.info-credentials just gives you acces to the private key and the functionality to use your wallet.

I hope, that helped.

Thanks, yes I was slightly confused as to whether they would need access to my blockchain.info account if they were able to get my private key from my wallet. I have backed up my wallet on a couple of usb sticks but will look into cold storage once I have done alot more research.

You can also choose (like I do) to keep most of your bitcoins in a paper wallet and load it on blockchai as a "watch only" address, which means that you don't provide BC with your private key, but your address only. Even if BC is hacked or they shut down, you don't loose anything since you never gave them your private key.

If you need to actually "use" some coins, just keep that small amount "loaded" with the private key on BC and keep all the rest in cold storage.

I chose the email wallet option, I know its not as secure, but I have deleted the backup attachment email from blockchain.info and will go ahead and download a paper back up now for added security. Thanks for the advice
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You can also choose (like I do) to keep most of your bitcoins in a paper wallet and load it on blockchai as a "watch only" address, which means that you don't provide BC with your private key, but your address only. Even if BC is hacked or they shut down, you don't loose anything since you never gave them your private key.


Can you do this with the app and does it still notify you when you spend or recieve coins?
hero member
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Wherever I may roam
You can also choose (like I do) to keep most of your bitcoins in a paper wallet and load it on blockchai as a "watch only" address, which means that you don't provide BC with your private key, but your address only. Even if BC is hacked or they shut down, you don't loose anything since you never gave them your private key.

If you need to actually "use" some coins, just keep that small amount "loaded" with the private key on BC and keep all the rest in cold storage.
hero member
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A private key  is random 256 bit number stored in the wallet (not the key to access it) and are used by it to sign transactions. The private key is part of a key pair, the other part being a public key, a number calculated from the private key using elliptic curve algorithm.
The bitcoin address is a base58check encoded RIPEMD-160 hash of a SHA-256 hash of the public key.  If you don't know what a hash is, it's a mathematical function.

Private key > Public Key > address

Those functions are not reversible (or at least it is not computationally feasible to calculate the private key when you have only the public key and the public key when you have the address), so you can disclose the address without fear of your public key being calculated. But if you have a private key, you can calculate all the rest and therefore spend every bitcoin associated with that address.

The identifier requested by blockchain, it's simply a login identifier for blockchain, like your login account for any other service. It's not connected in any way with your private key.


Thanks for the detailed explanation  Smiley

If I have backed up my BTC blockchain.info wallet do I need to use this in anyway, or just make sure my back up is protected as the private key is a means to hack my account and not needed by myself for the operation of my wallet? many thanks
You still confuss 2 things.

Privat Key=Wallet
and
blockchain.info=Wallet Software

(that is also not 100% accurat)

If someone has your Privat Key, he doesn't need your blockchain account.
You can Import a privat key in any wallet-software(e.g. Bitcoin Core/Bitcoin QT) and just spend the Bitcoin as you like.

A privat key is the Thing you have to Keep most secure.
Your blockchain.info-credentials just gives you acces to the private key and the functionality to use your wallet.

I hope, that helped.
newbie
Activity: 14
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A private key  is random 256 bit number stored in the wallet (not the key to access it) and are used by it to sign transactions. The private key is part of a key pair, the other part being a public key, a number calculated from the private key using elliptic curve algorithm.
The bitcoin address is a base58check encoded RIPEMD-160 hash of a SHA-256 hash of the public key.  If you don't know what a hash is, it's a mathematical function.

Private key > Public Key > address

Those functions are not reversible (or at least it is not computationally feasible to calculate the private key when you have only the public key and the public key when you have the address), so you can disclose the address without fear of your public key being calculated. But if you have a private key, you can calculate all the rest and therefore spend every bitcoin associated with that address.

The identifier requested by blockchain, it's simply a login identifier for blockchain, like your login account for any other service. It's not connected in any way with your private key.


Thanks for the detailed explanation  Smiley

If I have backed up my BTC blockchain.info wallet do I need to use this in anyway, or just make sure my back up is protected as the private key is a means to hack my account and not needed by myself for the operation of my wallet? many thanks
hero member
Activity: 593
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Wherever I may roam
A private key  is random 256 bit number stored in the wallet (not the key to access it) and are used by it to sign transactions. The private key is part of a key pair, the other part being a public key, a number calculated from the private key using elliptic curve algorithm.
The bitcoin address is a base58check encoded RIPEMD-160 hash of a SHA-256 hash of the public key.  If you don't know what a hash is, it's a mathematical function.

Private key > Public Key > address

Those functions are not reversible (or at least it is not computationally feasible to calculate the private key when you have only the public key and the public key when you have the address), so you can disclose the address without fear of your public key being calculated. But if you have a private key, you can calculate all the rest and therefore spend every bitcoin associated with that address.

The identifier requested by blockchain, it's simply a login identifier for blockchain, like your login account for any other service. It's not connected in any way with your private key.
newbie
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Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.

NO!
A backup is sent by email each time you add a wallet in your account, not each time some uBTC are sent to you.

You just need the private key of your wallet to back it up: for blockchain, just use the "paper" button and print the paper wallet(s) generated, with the qr codes. And you're ok, you could even import this key in any other wallet program to spend your BTC as you like.

The private key(s) is the one and only necessary thing to backup in a safe place. Even the public key is generated from it.

Thanks, so doing one backup is fine, even if your balance increases or decreases, only needed if you add new addresses to the wallet? The private key, is this the "identifier" that is requested when logging onto blockchain.info?  Huh

No, you need your private key to sign a transaction, the identifier requested is a login identifier.

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but is that the password used to login into the account? the private key? If not, could you point me in the direction where I may be able to to get this from my online wallet , thanks
hero member
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Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.

NO!
A backup is sent by email each time you add a wallet in your account, not each time some uBTC are sent to you.

You just need the private key of your wallet to back it up: for blockchain, just use the "paper" button and print the paper wallet(s) generated, with the qr codes. And you're ok, you could even import this key in any other wallet program to spend your BTC as you like.

The private key(s) is the one and only necessary thing to backup in a safe place. Even the public key is generated from it.

Thanks, so doing one backup is fine, even if your balance increases or decreases, only needed if you add new addresses to the wallet? The private key, is this the "identifier" that is requested when logging onto blockchain.info?  Huh

No, you need your private key to sign a transaction, the identifier requested is a login identifier.
newbie
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Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.

NO!
A backup is sent by email each time you add a wallet in your account, not each time some uBTC are sent to you.

You just need the private key of your wallet to back it up: for blockchain, just use the "paper" button and print the paper wallet(s) generated, with the qr codes. And you're ok, you could even import this key in any other wallet program to spend your BTC as you like.

The private key(s) is the one and only necessary thing to backup in a safe place. Even the public key is generated from it.

Thanks, so doing one backup is fine, even if your balance increases or decreases, only needed if you add new addresses to the wallet? The private key, is this the "identifier" that is requested when logging onto blockchain.info?  Huh
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
It is kind of weird that they haven't even acknowledged that there is a problem.  Usually they address it publicly right away. I can get to Blockchain.info but not their blog. That website doesn't even connect...

Yeah! I can get into blockchain.info . Did anybody reported the problem to them?
Kindly,
        Muhammed Zakhir
TYT
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So funny to see people going maaaaaaad so quickly. On the other hand it's quite strange the lack of communication from BC, they're usually very good at that..

They're mad because they're panicking because they haven't got any wallet backups.
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Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.

NO!
A backup is sent by email each time you add a wallet in your account, not each time some uBTC are sent to you.

You just need the private key of your wallet to back it up: for blockchain, just use the "paper" button and print the paper wallet(s) generated, with the qr codes. And you're ok, you could even import this key in any other wallet program to spend your BTC as you like.

The private key(s) is the one and only necessary thing to backup in a safe place. Even the public key is generated from it.
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So funny to see people going maaaaaaad so quickly. On the other hand it's quite strange the lack of communication from BC, they're usually very good at that..
hero member
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There is one wallet where you dont need to make new backups everytime you make a transaction but just have the one. Forgot which one it is now though. Anyone know?
If you would Need to backup your wallet everytime you get or send Money, Offline-Wallets wouldn't work.
I am not sure, what you guys are talking about.
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People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.

Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.

Thanks, I'm not sure if blockchain.info has that option, cannot see it listed on there site

People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.

Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.
Just for clarification: yes you definitely 100% need to back-up Smiley

Thanks, going to do that now  Smiley
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There is one wallet where you dont need to make new backups everytime you make a transaction but just have the one. Forgot which one it is now though. Anyone know?
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People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.

Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.
Just for clarification: yes you definitely 100% need to back-up Smiley
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Come original.
People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.

Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?

Yes I think so but you can set it so it automatically sends you one each time it happens.
newbie
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People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.

Do you need to need to back up your wallet each time your balance increases?
311
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Come original.
People always panic when this happens. They should really learn how the site works though and makes sure theyve got a back up of their wallet.
legendary
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Everything is fine now. Blockchain.info is online again and the wallets can be accessed and the coins can be transferred. No need to go ballistic... all of your coins are safe.  Grin
legendary
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this is not nice...wonder what`s happening..they didnt announce anything

What happens with the wallets on blockchain? Will you still be able to get your money out?


Yes, the actual wallet has nothing to do with blockchain. If you made a backup of the private keys it doesn't matter if blockchain shuts down.
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Blockchain.info is not showing any transactions.

Blockexplorer is showing
Code:
ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)

What's up? Are these pages run by the same guys?

I believe blockexplorer is made and run by theymos.

http://blockexplorer.com/testnet
Quote
Tell me (theymos) if you find any bugs.
legendary
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The revolution will be digital
Services may go down from time to time, but there should be an update or at least acknowledgement. https://twitter.com/blockchain does not say anything about the downtime. This is quite unprofessional.
legendary
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so the dump in price to pre apple news is because of this lol?
glad I don't daytrade and hold for longterm

quite possibly blockchain were re-adding app integration before resubmitting or something a and price will re-rocket

I see times like this the trolls come out and even post more china fud threads lmao

think this may be just the tonic to 'take the summer off' and check the price on a random date
like end september  Cool

yep, both sites blockchain and blockexplorer working dandy for me  Cheesy

now please someone please go and explain to the trolls in btce trollbox, they think the sky is falling
member
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well it's back online. wallet works. seems to load pages faster Grin

everything fine at me Cheesy
newbie
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well it's back online. wallet works. seems to load pages faster Grin
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Blockchain.info is not showing any transactions.

Blockexplorer is showing
Code:
ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)

What's up? Are these pages run by the same guys?

I seek clarification on this, for there's no way they're suppose to be operated by the same guy.

You think this right here is cause for concern?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Blockchain.info is not showing any transactions.

Blockexplorer is showing
Code:
ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)

What's up? Are these pages run by the same guys?

I seek clarification on this, for there's no way they're suppose to be operated by the same guy.
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
It's been down for a couple of hours, and not a single word from them.

It is kind of weird that they haven't even acknowledged that there is a problem.  Usually they address it publicly right away. I can get to Blockchain.info but not their blog. That website doesn't even connect...
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
I know that it is completely unrelated,  but the last time blockchain.info was down for a lengthy period, BTC rallied...maybe it will happen again
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I think, that is one of the times, you guys should be reminded, that you can download your private key from your blockchain.info-wallet, in case something like that happens and you really need to use your money.
If you don't use the features, they provide, it is your own fault, when your BTC get lost.
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
IPhone app says "error getting wallet balance"
legendary
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It's been down for a couple of hours, and not a single word from them.
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Enthusiast
legendary
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this is not nice...wonder what`s happening..they didnt announce anything

What happens with the wallets on blockchain? Will you still be able to get your money out?
hero member
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this is not nice...wonder what`s happening..they didnt announce anything
hero member
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Yep, blockchain is definitely down
Unable to see updated balances
member
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So what those that mean?
legendary
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Yeah, I've had no response by email, nor have they updated twitter, which is their stated publishing forum for known problems.

Same here. Weird.
newbie
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Yeah, I've had no response by email, nor have they updated twitter, which is their stated publishing forum for known problems.
legendary
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Balance = 0  Huh
newbie
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I filed a trouble ticket for blockchain.info.  I suspect that whatever they use in place of bitcoind needs to be restarted, since they are stuck about 8 blocks behind the rest of the network.  Kind of sucks, because it means that their wallets, and any wallets that use their API are not seeing incoming transactions...
member
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No they are run by different people.

blockchain is down for me http://isitup.org/blockchain.info
blockexplorer is up for me http://isitup.org/blockexplorer.com

Try searching for something on blockexplorer.com and you'll notice it's down too...
hero member
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Nope..
Noticed price was nosediving.
newbie
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I noticed the same. I wonder wtf?
legendary
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No they are run by different people.

blockchain is down for me http://isitup.org/blockchain.info
blockexplorer is up for me http://isitup.org/blockexplorer.com
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
Blockchain.info is not showing any transactions.

Blockexplorer is showing
Code:
ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)

What's up? Are these pages run by the same guys?
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