Bots and fake accounts in Telegram channels

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 17, 2021, 06:46:35 PM

yeah, that's one easy way, report or ignore. but wondering what is the action of telegram after reporting an account? is it going to be banned or deleted?

As far as I know, the telegram team will grant 'scam' mark or 'fake' mark, on the account. Then they will limit the activity of the account. If it is a telegram group, they probably lock the group, so people cannot comment or publish anything there. I think that action is quite effective, scammers cannot use the account anymore at least.

More information, please read here: https://telegram.org/faq

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Quote from: Luqman on August 17, 2021, 06:40:51 PM

Quote from: bamb on August 17, 2021, 03:32:42 PM

Telegram is a good platform for building community for project, but the amount of bots created specifically for cheating is staggering!

The number of bots and fake accounts is staggering because people are too easy creating them. I think if the telegram team makes it more difficult, probably the number of bots and fake accounts can decrease significantly. For now, we only have two options, repot or ignore them. There are no other ways to make bots and fake accounts disappear.

yeah, that's one easy way, report or ignore. but wondering what is the action of telegram after reporting an account? is it going to be banned or deleted? i tried before, reporting a channel. but unfortunately, i haven't followed up what happened after my report. anyway, telegram should find a way how to streamline fake accounts. i guess, they can do something about it.

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Quote from: bamb on August 17, 2021, 03:32:42 PM

Telegram is a good platform for building community for project, but the amount of bots created specifically for cheating is staggering!

The number of bots and fake accounts is staggering because people are too easy creating them. I think if the telegram team makes it more difficult, probably the number of bots and fake accounts can decrease significantly. For now, we only have two options, repot or ignore them. There are no other ways to make bots and fake accounts disappear.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.

Because there are too many services offer now on how to add a Telegram bot member on a group or a channel and so far, I didn't find any services that identify a bot in a telegram group or channel. That is probably a reason that Telegram is a house of scammers and fraudsters because it is easy to fake even a member of a group/channel.

However, this isn't related to your question but I found it an interesting topic on Reddit. A Telegram bot that can able to show which telegram groups a person is member of.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

We often think that a telegram group that has a huge number of members seems to be legit but to find out that most of them are just a bot and fake accounts. This was very common these days and we don't know how that it works if there is a telegram moderation has been made otherwise, we could think that this is just a trick to attract people and join them which have nothing to talk you but just a robot only.

For now, it was too hard to control this as we are in the computer era, it was easier for some people to make fake accounts and bots that even having a restriction and a sort of verification couldn't be enough.

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Quote from: senyorito123 on August 17, 2021, 05:21:43 PM

Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

There's no way for us to determine those spammers and scammer who flooded our telegram, one way to deal with them was report and block them manually.
Also, I'm getting tired with them actually but I patiently avoid them through that method.
However, we should be careful on who will be the anonymous person that we're going to communicate in telegram because it's to dangerous for our privacy if we're going to trust strangers.

We don't have to entertain PMs if we are not sure who we are dealing with unless if we do the PM first.

I was not a victim of a scam but I was a victim of receiving PM from a person that I was not expecting any. For the growing numbers of fake accounts and bots, it was a big challenge for us, and even using Captcha verification could still be bypass, of course, it works for bots but not for those who use fake accounts as they are not all robots.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

Hi buddy, you need add API in telegram group to verify new user identity with captcha, bot will verify new user whether he is bot or not. you can see it on Github on the link below, you can add this API or not, it's up to you buddy

Source: https://github.com/J-Rios/TLG_JoinCaptchaBot

- Installation
Note: Use Python 3.6 or above to install and run the Bot, previous version are unsupported.

To generate Captchas, the Bot uses multicolor_captcha_generator library, wich uses Pillow to generate the images.
1. Install Pillow prerequisites:

Code:

sudo apt install -y libtiff5-dev libjpeg62-turbo-dev zlib1g-dev libfreetype6-dev liblcms2-dev libwebp-dev tcl8.6-dev tk8.6-dev python-tk

2. Get the project and install JoinCaptchaBot requirements:

Code:

git clone https://github.com/J-Rios/TLG_JoinCaptchaBot
pip install -r TLG_JoinCaptchaBot/requirements.txt

for steps 3 and 4 and other info u can visit this link: https://github.com/J-Rios/TLG_JoinCaptchaBot#installation

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

There's no way for us to determine those spammers and scammer who flooded our telegram, one way to deal with them was report and block them manually.
Also, I'm getting tired with them actually but I patiently avoid them through that method.
However, we should be careful on who will be the anonymous person that we're going to communicate in telegram because it's to dangerous for our privacy if we're going to trust strangers.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

If it is to identify the real account in a group, so far I don't find any.
But, there are some ways to know that the accounts may be fake only but by checking manually.
Mostly, the fake accounts will only go to the group and spread the spam once and will not be active again. "or, they'll only join immediately in groups with other telegram accounts and if we see their last active, it will be a long time ago.

We can also see from the numbers of all members in the group, how many members are active to chat in the group?

Additionally, we can also set a more strict regulation in order to decrease the fake accounts or spammers do spam or join the group by doing:
- Captcha
- Username set is a must

And these tools may help:
- https://combot.org/
- hCaptcha

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Telegram is a good platform for building community for project, but the amount of bots created specifically for cheating is staggering! There is a lots of impersonation going on in there also. I think i haven't found an app like telegram yet apart from discord etc.

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For now there is none, but simply we can see the online number of all group members is usually at least half of the total active in the chat group to ensure that the telegram group is not inhabited by bots.

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Bots are used in telegram mainly for two purposes. One is verifying new member on telegram group. Other is joining airdrops via telegram bots. I don't mind using bots for these purposes. But fake account is always annoying. Telegram has more fake accounts. Because if you change the username, it becomes a new account. That is why the number of cheaters is also high here.

A lots of cheaters and scammers that you needed to avoid, it's tough process cause every scammers have that

knowledge how to pretend to be the real owner of the account, best practice is not to deal to someone you don't

know and never to talk to anyone which is not familiar to you. The best thing to do is not to do anything, not entertaining

them will give you less hassles.

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Now that the scammer has become so full of telegrams, bot verification has become at least urgent. bot verification has started to decrease gradually through fake account and spam account band. But that is not all. You also have to keep yourself away from all those fake telegram blogger projects. It is very easy to open a scam telegram account in this technology market.

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If you are a group owner on Telegram, there is a way to clean bots and spam from your Telegram group. namely by hiring an anti-spam that can protect your group from it. but it looks like it needs a monthly fee. try to find someplace that rents out the bot. however, if you don't have the money, try this method.

Note: I have never tried the method above, so try to read and gather information about it.

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There is no application to verify the number of real members in the telegram group channel, but we can identify if the real members have responders for the main discussion of project development, now my telegram account is added automatically by bots in the telegram group is unknown and maybe the scammer's way of creating a fake group or spread phishing.

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I know that there are certain services that you could get from moderating of Telegram Groups. Most of it are for limiting the number of joiners and members. What I see with moderation of channels are below.

Moderators are actively checking the channel
Enforcing Bot Verifiers so that the new member can be kicked if it doesn't answer the correct question.

The problem that I see mostly in channels are the ability of people to add members to another channel. This is true, of course, with those whose profiles are not in private or they just allow this type of thing to exist and not change a thing about their setting.

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I think that the number of people is not the main indicator. Moreover, it is not very difficult to create thousands of accounts.
You had better just take as a rule that you will not completely rely on any bloggers in Telegram. There are a lot of scams that earn on their followers. Such bloggers can sell signals and then pump or dump the price, so be careful and just don’t believe anybody apart from you.

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There was no an application to identify whether the member in the telegram group was a fake account or not. As far as i know that if the only possible thing to put the verification. it's not possible to use the 3rd party app to identify which account that used by the bot or not. I have been joining in the several of telegram big groups.
Verification was more than enough to prevent it to happen. The bots were also getting removed by the telegram when they are inactive in the group.
If the account was using by the bot and verification will prevent the bot to enter in the group

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

Even there is an app(which I'd never know) we can't assure that this will stop the bots and fake accounts. It is sad to say that we are no longer sure who we are talking with either it was a bot or a person, or a scammer. Due to technology upgrades, it was easy for some people to impersonate someone's identity and it was common these days, and I think even the apps couldn't make it. The only thing we do is not to talk with them if it is found to be suspicious.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

I think the app can not recognize if that account is real people or scammer because they can buy any number from their country and use it to scam any people in that group. People will only know the number and name of that person, but they do not know if that is real people who want to interact with other people in telegram or scam people. The best way to prevent scammers or fake accounts is by deleting the conversation they start or reporting it so they can not message you anymore.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
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Telegram has always been filled with bunch of scammers, fake accounts and groups. You will find most of the scammers trying to talk to you through telegram. Just don't accept or communicate with anyone random on telegram. Leave groups that you didn't join. If someone on telegram claims to know you (was supposed to add you), verify if its the same person you were supposed to talk to.

Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

I doubt there are any apps that will help you do that. This would cause an issue with user privacy.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

The distribution of bot accounts is evenly distributed across various social media, such as Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. The reason is, the maker has their target segmentation.
If you are still confused about the difference between a real account and a bot account, there are a number of things that you can pay attention to, such as the date of creation of the account, the name and profile photo is not clear, even deeper friends can be checked.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

Why is that so? I've also never checked every member of a group on telegram, although there are indeed many telegram groups that I'm in at the moment, so is it important to check? because I don't think it's important.

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I've never heard of an application that can identify bot on Telegram, but what I know most bot or scammers on Telegram don't have usernames like @xxxx
That's all I've seen so far

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Some admins in some telegram group often request that all members of the group should have a username (@username) to easily detect real from fake account i guess, but i am not sure if this method is very effective, who knows maybe the bots have a way of creating fake username as well, for now i don't think there is such app to detect fake from real account but who knows someone may invent one soon.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

Why do you even need to identify real people on telegram? Whatever discussions you want to have about crypto make sure it stays in the main group of the project, if anyone PM you off the group they can't be trusted, I don't do PM unless I PM the admins first, if any admin PM you first believe me that's not the real admin it's fake

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Many virtual robots in Telegram do mislead real people.In particular, there are many virtual robots in some altcoin telegrams that are about to open transactions, causing real people to think that telegrams are very active, and then participate in their transactions. As a result, many people lose money.

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Quote from: ectbit on August 16, 2021, 12:03:55 PM

Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

I don't think that there is. For twitter, there's twitter audit but maybe someone has an idea if there's a telegram channel audit. But you don't fall for those fake members that are in a specific group.
You can have some idea if the channel is legitimately with real people or if it's just more of giving high number of members but most of them are fake. If mostly are fake, there's not that much conversation on it yet there are also many scammers in most of these crypto telegram channels.

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Even with out the help of app to identify the number of vote, you operating with a real account can easily identify it, because they are only program to respond to some certain level, and their mode of responds are bit different from that one a real user.
I currently don't know if their has been any app launched so far for that.

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Im not sure about this but the only best thing to put the bot to verify the new people who are joining in the groups. Some crypto telegram groups were also using this kind of method to avoid the attacks from the bot.
The both will not did a verification and then it will be removing from the group instantly once it was not doing anything to verify if that's not a bot.
I think this is the only way for you to prevent the fake accounts and bots.

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Lately the number of fake accounts and bots is rising in Telegram groups.
Is there any app that recognize the real number of people in a group?

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