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October 13, 2020, 09:45:05 PM
#83
yes, it's such suspicious activity in this forum thread. besides, projects that eliminate social media are also dangerous. I also experienced when the project suddenly closed its social media accounts, so that participants or investors could not do anything, even asked questions.
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October 13, 2020, 09:08:04 PM
#82
The self moderated thread is usually for prevent spam posts on their thread.
But we should look the bounty manager too. If the manager is not reliable, i think join in self moderated thread is not a good idea.
They can delete the posts on the thread as they like, this is not good for hunter.
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October 13, 2020, 02:02:50 PM
#81
absolutely true mate.sellf moderated is dangerous specifically for annonucment thread.for me, I avoided so many bounty in past after seeing scam alert from bitcointalk members, specifically from dt members. I also prevent my self investment on project after seeing logical negative feedback in annonucment thread.but if those were self moderated, that could harmful for me
there really doesn't hurt good moderation for bounty threads. it all depends on the manager holding it. because indeed sometimes bounty threads are used as a new account poster land to increase activity rather than making posts in other threads which will definitely be deleted by the moderator. we all return to the trust and skills of managers in managing their campaigns.
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October 13, 2020, 01:51:43 PM
#80
absolutely true mate.sellf moderated is dangerous specifically for annonucment thread.for me, I avoided so many bounty in past after seeing scam alert from bitcointalk members, specifically from dt members. I also prevent my self investment on project after seeing logical negative feedback in annonucment thread.but if those were self moderated, that could harmful for me
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September 20, 2020, 06:58:41 PM
#79
Again, actually, it is their own right to make their bounty thread self-moderated or not. It is to avoid spam posts and it may be useful.
However, the problem is like what have you said, this feature is also used by many scammers to make many more scams and also fool of the members. In this case, they only give positive reviews or replies from the members (we do not even know if those members are their fake account or not). But, if they are really a scam, they will always delete the negative review about the project.

It will be different from the project that is not a scam, if they got negative reviews or replies on their thread, they will commonly make some confirmation and also answers on the thread in order to make clarifications about the problem, not deleting.
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September 20, 2020, 06:15:54 PM
#78
My experience with self-moderated thread is very normal like any other thread. The only one that got remove or delete is usually off-topic or spam without any contribution to the thread. Most bounty thread today are just filled with weekly report posts so even if they are self-moderated, no one seriously uses it for any discussion.
Yes, I also agree with your words. Usually there are no extraneous conversations in the bounty thread, except for reporting. All questions about the bounty are resolved in telegram groups. Therefore, I also don't see anything criminal in these threads. But this is just my experience.

Totally agree. I don't think self-moderating thread is scam proof. Self-moderation is not only about removing unflattering posts but keeping the thread tidy (in theory). In addition, there are many ways to report a scam, for example in a specially created section or giving a negative trust OP, which are definitely better than entering an accusation in the post in the middle of a several-dozen-page thread that will be lost under hundreds of bounty hunters reports ... what's more, bounty hunters rarely they read the content of the thread, only enter their reports (and it is not surprising because there is nothing interesting to read there) ..

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September 20, 2020, 03:31:03 PM
#77
My experience with self-moderated thread is very normal like any other thread. The only one that got remove or delete is usually off-topic or spam without any contribution to the thread. Most bounty thread today are just filled with weekly report posts so even if they are self-moderated, no one seriously uses it for any discussion.
Yes, I also agree with your words. Usually there are no extraneous conversations in the bounty thread, except for reporting. All questions about the bounty are resolved in telegram groups. Therefore, I also don't see anything criminal in these threads. But this is just my experience.
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August 21, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
#76
I was see the bounty campaign that you mentioned seen as a con project although held by a high ranking manager does not guarantee that the bounty will be paid going forward be more careful in choosing the correct bounty check
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August 21, 2020, 01:16:53 PM
#75
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

You actually made a whole lot of sense, I guess it's best we watch out for self moderated thread especially for bounties. I doubt if the participants of ibidtowin would be getting their reward, though it's expected that the bounty should be over by ending of this month. The telegram group feels abandoned even when I enquired.
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August 21, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
#74
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Then you can open a thread in the reputation if you think that bounty manager is not addressing the issues but I seldom see bounty campaign that are locked, what are locked are the announcement thread which is a big no no in case want to question the potential and truthfulness of the project
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August 21, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
#73
Thank you for pointing this out, it's really bad enough cos most of the Bounty mangers are now using it as a way to do exactly as they want which to me isn't ideal, we'll have made the mistake once and don't intend to repeat again
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August 01, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
#72
Self moderated threads are 80% scam or having something to hide, it's an tend to cheat or avoid comments from people that are a a bit curious about the new project, stay away for your own good or get scammed and cheated in the end
That's a too harsh view, man. There is always scam lurking or operating right now in bitcointalk and nothing we could do about it until the unveil their trick and got call out. Like any thread could be possible made by them, not just self moderated thread alone. 80% scam from self moderated is a long stretch.
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August 01, 2020, 10:35:04 AM
#71
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

You can always raise an alarm if you see something wrong, post it in their thread if they delete then you can have a thread on the scam or reputation sections to raise an alarm if you see something wrong about a particular project, if I am the bounty manager I prefer  not moderate it, lest I see a thread about the project in the scam section, and it also depends on the character and the kind of bounty manager moderating the thread. 
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August 01, 2020, 10:24:53 AM
#70
Self moderated threads are 80% scam or having something to hide, it's an tend to cheat or avoid comments from people that are a a bit curious about the new project, stay away for your own good or get scammed and cheated in the end
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August 01, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
#69
My experience with self-moderated thread is very normal like any other thread. The only one that got remove or delete is usually off-topic or spam without any contribution to the thread. Most bounty thread today are just filled with weekly report posts so even if they are self-moderated, no one seriously uses it for any discussion.
locking the bounty thread should only be done when the project is completed or stopped. it will reduce the spammer to be too noisy in the thread. for the discussion thread, this key function is very important and the moderation of the OP must continue.
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August 01, 2020, 09:53:47 AM
#68
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

A question that should come to mind at first should be that why would a bounty manager make a bounty thread self moderated? In the case of ibidtowin, there are so many irregularities and to be frank, it has earned the ibidtowin bounty several red trust; the ibidtowin lied about project partnership, have an invisible team, and still moderated a bounty thread; i have no idea why people still promote the ponzi platform.

If its true that its a ponzi scheme then participants should also be warned about it so they will stop promoting ponzi  scheme campaign.

I see that they paid participants in USDT but im affraid if they will going to pay those  participants if its true that they are running a ponzi scheme here. They will oNly use that payment as advantage to get many advertiser here in this forum but in the end they will work for nothing since the payment is not secured in escrow.
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August 01, 2020, 09:11:14 AM
#67
My experience with self-moderated thread is very normal like any other thread. The only one that got remove or delete is usually off-topic or spam without any contribution to the thread. Most bounty thread today are just filled with weekly report posts so even if they are self-moderated, no one seriously uses it for any discussion.
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August 01, 2020, 07:36:43 AM
#66
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

A question that should come to mind at first should be that why would a bounty manager make a bounty thread self moderated? In the case of ibidtowin, there are so many irregularities and to be frank, it has earned the ibidtowin bounty several red trust; the ibidtowin lied about project partnership, have an invisible team, and still moderated a bounty thread; i have no idea why people still promote the ponzi platform.
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August 01, 2020, 05:30:35 AM
#65
Self-moderated threads are the problem, especially when they also use multiple accounts to hype the project and write cool reviews.
That's why we still have forum moderators that oversee the quality of these topics.  Smiley
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August 01, 2020, 04:39:49 AM
#64
If a project is pure and transparency the team or bounty manager don't need to use any self moderated strategy, it will only give the project a bad reputation and people who understands what self moderating means will stay away
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August 01, 2020, 03:51:02 AM
#63
Self moderated bounty threads are scam projects, the reason why its self moderated is to avoid any scam busting posts or comments, I don't advice anyone to join any project using self moderated thread for their bounty campaigns
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August 01, 2020, 03:38:30 AM
#62
You can question it if done by a new account who happens to be the bounty manager of the team but from an independent bounty manager coming from here I don't think it will be questionable if you question the project an independent bounty manager will gladly answer it but not from bounty manager that is part of the team, they do not want to be exposed.
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August 01, 2020, 02:53:26 AM
#61
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Self moderated bounty threads are not necessary unless the bounty manager and team has something hidden going on, it's more or less that the project isn't a transparency on, it's better to avoid such bounty projects because the ending will be hurtful
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August 01, 2020, 02:09:29 AM
#60
There are trusted members here in the forum that made helpful sites to track these posts that were deleted. One of it would be https://loyce.club/ made by LoyceV.
See LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide) Smiley
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July 31, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
#59
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

that's why we should avoid projects like this, if from the beginning we find suspicion about the campaign thread that is moderated by the gift manager or there is a quote from the gift manager whenever the rules change, you should never join a prize like this, because there will usually be fraud about prize allocations that can be reduced for some reason or even do not pay the participant one bit. Such campaign programs only spend time for participants who join to promote related platforms
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July 31, 2020, 10:11:11 AM
#58
It's no wonder and there have been many cases like this before. actually joined bounty managed by their own team has enough risk in between.
- lock thread bounty
- lock ann thread
- manipulate spreadsheets
- reduce bounty allocation
- not pay participants
I've been into that kind of bounty campaign too, there were many bounty hunters didn't get paid and the campaign that we're participating was just faking everything.

that's why so many people have called a bounty thread that fully moderated can be used to fool the hunters. So many times the scam projects were using this method to remove any bad post about the project to give awareness for everyone.

I think that so many negativity for moderated bounty thread.
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July 31, 2020, 09:47:25 AM
#57
While your narrative may be through, self moderated topics give the thread poster to be able to edit all the post on the thread without any approval from the posters. This sometime help moderator to take care of spam messages that are being posted. If your comment was deleted, it means the bounty manager see it as inappropriate and this doesn't mean self moderated topics are not bad or that all bounty managers use to do the same
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July 31, 2020, 09:46:40 AM
#56
I think it depends on the bounty manager, because sometimes professional bounty manager also doing self moderated thread. But if new managers or managers from their own, we must ask, why did he do that, if for good purpose, that's good because sometimes newbie post spam report in bounty thread and self moderated will help manager to clean the thread
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July 31, 2020, 09:38:59 AM
#55
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
ibidtowin is a ponzi project, and it was tagged by DT member in this forum. Stay away from this project and all ponzi projects, don't try to promote it. In addition, he created a censorship topic that made many people doubt about the quality of the project and in the end it was a scam.
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July 31, 2020, 09:30:11 AM
#54
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Yeah, I actually have not seen a bounty project that had a successful run, and most of the time bounty hunters had so many concerns regarding the rewards or staking or anything lacking with they activities. I hope to see the Bitcointalk to implements, that every Project that will hold their bounty campaign should be handled by respectable Bounty Managers and the allocation should be scrowed to guarantee bounty hunter's rewards.
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July 31, 2020, 09:28:17 AM
#53
There really isn't basically saying scam. For ibidtowin itself, I think the project is a little suspicious and yes it comes from Vietnam, most of bounty projects originating from there now are not many good ones, for example Bcnex case that ended as scam project, self moderated is actually suitable for use because sometimes there are many spammer bots that make submissions it is not clear and if used self moderate this will be good for bounty managers because they can delete their submissions.
But I am suspicious that with this project ibidtowin will refer to the ponzi scheme that already has its catch, then where do they say it is not a scam?
I really can't believe what they have to offer in the product and it doesn't look interesting enough so from the need to avoid bounties like this so don't be tempted by $ 10,000 that is too small for hunters.

Catch of the ibidtowin project

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54807819
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July 31, 2020, 08:54:22 AM
#52
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Thanks for the heads up, I was sincerely going to participate in the ibidtowin project, infact I've already posted my proof of Authentication, but was procrastinating when to write the article. I recently noticed that the bounty manager has a red trust and was accused by about 4 different users. I didn't notice that the thread was self moderated. It's nice to be informed before hand. Most of those bounties would end up parting away with hunters funds as they have no reputation in the first place to protect.
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July 31, 2020, 08:43:32 AM
#51
Only projects that have something to hide use self moderated bounty thread, they use this to avoid any strict questions from members of the forum, I don't have any reasons to trust projects or bounties that use self moderated thread

its ok to have this as long as the project have announcement thread that not self moderated so what ever question should be asked directly in announcement thread .

However if the project doesn't have any announcement  in this forum then there something they want to hide if they make it self moderated.
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July 31, 2020, 08:25:39 AM
#50
in my opinion they use Self-moderated to look better and look legitimate, just to manipulate a few participants, but somehow we are still careful in choosing the bounty before joining
Yes, that is in your opinion, and if in my opinion it is also almost the same as you said, because the project that uses Self-Moderated is only to prove that their project is good and good, even though Self-Moderated does not follow the project and they dare provide payment for Self-Moderated in this case.
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July 31, 2020, 08:23:22 AM
#49
Self moderated bounty threads is a bad move for the bounty manager and the project itself, bounty manager might have reasons for using self moderated but I don't see it's usefulness because even if the thread isn't self moderated the BM can still remove any unwanted questions or posts
in my opinion they use Self-moderated to look better and look legitimate, just to manipulate a few participants, but somehow we are still careful in choosing the bounty before joining
Everyone here loves fair criticism and no one false accuses people here, so why would someone have a self moderated thread for a bounty campaign where everyone like fair policies towards everyone. The self moderated threads of a bounty campaign and announcement threads too for the same campaign having self moderation aren't good indicators of a healthy business, if they want to look legitimate then they should show it by their handwork and actions, not by making self moderated topics, this suppresses free speech imho.
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July 31, 2020, 08:22:39 AM
#48
No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
Absolutely agree with your comments, we must care about that project. If they are a good and potential project, I believe that their bounty will be successful and help the bounty hunter to profit from it.
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July 31, 2020, 08:19:08 AM
#47
No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
What matter most is the project itself and how they will going to pay, sometimes bounty managers have no say in payment when the project fails so it's better to have escrow if the bounty manager is not yet established or does not have any trust rating to risk. If they are old in forum and seems to know the project pretty well and know how to manage then it's good to give it a try especially now that it's hard to be accepted in campaigns that are paying weekly.
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July 31, 2020, 08:15:41 AM
#46
There really isn't basically saying scam. For ibidtowin itself, I think the project is a little suspicious and yes it comes from Vietnam, most of bounty projects originating from there now are not many good ones, for example Bcnex case that ended as scam project, self moderated is actually suitable for use because sometimes there are many spammer bots that make submissions it is not clear and if used self moderate this will be good for bounty managers because they can delete their submissions.
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July 31, 2020, 08:00:39 AM
#45
I dislike how a few bounty projects do this, allow bounty manager using the self-moderated feature on btt to delete and remove any post they dislike, especially shady project. Most telegram or discord channel already behave like this. The only place where you can freely criticize or ask any question regarding the project is in btt but if they using the self-moderated feature then you still have chance to warning other people by making a new thread.
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July 31, 2020, 06:18:52 AM
#44
It depends on who moderated it if the bounty manager is highly reputable I have no problem with that and his intention is to protect the campaign from spam and useless posts, I have participated on campaigns that were moderated by a bounty manager and things went smoothly but different if the bounty manager is part of the team, that is highly questionable.
Right, Bounty manager is always placed on a neutral side between the team and the participants, The main job of the bounty manager between those two is to be fair with both. We do know that some participants who are hard-headed that didn't accept the fact that he got troubled or whatever the reason is with the bounty campaign is destroying the thread by posting unrealistic scam accusation that affects the bounty manager, team and the project itself. Most of the time the scam accusation is built with an oversized font and red color font. Also, scam accusations like that should be posted on the right board and not into a bounty thread for discussion.
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July 31, 2020, 06:11:08 AM
#43
No need to pay too much attention to the topic of moderation, you should care about the quality of the project and the bounty manager. If it is a good project and a reputable manager in this market then I believe you should participate in it without doubt.
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July 31, 2020, 06:04:08 AM
#42
It depends on who moderated it if the bounty manager is highly reputable I have no problem with that and his intention is to protect the campaign from spam and useless posts, I have participated on campaigns that were moderated by a bounty manager and things went smoothly but different if the bounty manager is part of the team, that is highly questionable.
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July 31, 2020, 04:03:06 AM
#41
The first thing you should pay attention when you join a Bounty campaign is a Manager. If he has a good reputation on Bitcointalk, it does not actually matters whether the thread is self moderated or not.
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July 31, 2020, 03:57:54 AM
#40
Only projects that have something to hide use self moderated bounty thread, they use this to avoid any strict questions from members of the forum, I don't have any reasons to trust projects or bounties that use self moderated thread
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July 31, 2020, 03:53:40 AM
#39
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
If in doubt then don’t participate on their bounty program and if you are experiencing a problem and you think the project is a scam then better to report the thread, or open an accusation about that project.

Self-moderated doesn’t mean a scam project after all, but you must do your best to know its a legit scam or not so you will not waste your time working with then. I rarely participate on bounties, but I know how to spot them as a scam or a real one.
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July 31, 2020, 03:52:22 AM
#38
Self moderated bounty threads is a bad move for the bounty manager and the project itself, bounty manager might have reasons for using self moderated but I don't see it's usefulness because even if the thread isn't self moderated the BM can still remove any unwanted questions or posts
in my opinion they use Self-moderated to look better and look legitimate, just to manipulate a few participants, but somehow we are still careful in choosing the bounty before joining
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July 31, 2020, 03:43:14 AM
#37
It's no wonder and there have been many cases like this before. actually joined bounty managed by their own team has enough risk in between.
- lock thread bounty
- lock ann thread
- manipulate spreadsheets
- reduce bounty allocation
- not pay participants
I've been into that kind of bounty campaign too, there were many bounty hunters didn't get paid and the campaign that we're participating was just faking everything.
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July 31, 2020, 03:08:53 AM
#36
I'd definitely stay away from such project because the moderator will easily erase any vital questions from the thread, it's a trick of hiding something about a project, reliable projects don't need to use such moves
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July 31, 2020, 02:45:33 AM
#35
I think they do this to prevent members from posting something about the project they don't want people to know about, by self moderating a thread they will be able to delete any criticism from members regarding the project or bounty, so once a thread be it announcement or bounty is self moderated you should be concerned and probably avoid it.
Actually this is an old trick and yes they do this to prevent participants or other members to post suspicious information about the project. Most of the time they also do this if there are participants that kept on asking about the bounty or the information of the exchange, etc. Their solution is to either remove or lock the thread to avoid questions and run away so easily.
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July 31, 2020, 02:34:13 AM
#34
I think they do this to prevent members from posting something about the project they don't want people to know about, by self moderating a thread they will be able to delete any criticism from members regarding the project or bounty, so once a thread be it announcement or bounty is self moderated you should be concerned and probably avoid it.
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July 31, 2020, 02:33:14 AM
#33
Not all self-moderated threads are a scam IMO because many managers use self-moderation to keep the thread clean from bot posters. If you have noticed some accounts keep posting their social media submission even though the campaign had ended long back.
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July 31, 2020, 02:30:08 AM
#32
The only reason why someone will use self moderated on a thread is to monitor what members are posting in the thread, it's another good way to avoid tough questions, the BM can easily delete any unwanted questions or posts
This is the bold move of scam projects. They will enable self moderate to avoid such questions from scam hunters and easy for them to hide whatever flaws they are hiding. Users should report any campaign that has self moderation. This must be remove on this section of the bounties. Meta section does not have the feature to make it on so this one can be done too.
If the project is a scam, then we can denounce them by creating a scam topic, so self-censorship will not hide the truth of the project. I think they do it to limit spam on their topic
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July 31, 2020, 02:26:24 AM
#31
I think some managers do that, self-moderated. Because the usual reason is when the campuses end, they can lock in the topic. I didn't know moderate was dangerous like many people said here, to get fake reviews if the announcement thread.
When the scam coin like ibid has been using moderated thread and any awareness for the hunters to avoid join in the ibid caused by it has been getting so many accusations will be removed by the moderator or thread starter.
This makes the hunters will blindly promote the scam project.
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July 31, 2020, 02:14:27 AM
#30
The only reason why someone will use self moderated on a thread is to monitor what members are posting in the thread, it's another good way to avoid tough questions, the BM can easily delete any unwanted questions or posts
This is the bold move of scam projects. They will enable self moderate to avoid such questions from scam hunters and easy for them to hide whatever flaws they are hiding. Users should report any campaign that has self moderation. This must be remove on this section of the bounties. Meta section does not have the feature to make it on so this one can be done too.
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July 31, 2020, 01:59:32 AM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
welcome to Bitcointalk.org  and  welcome to Bounty scamming mate,you may be newbie in this field because you have no idea about this rampant technique of campaign manager  making their thread self moderated.
i have been part once of the biggest scam in the history of crypto but i still don't understand whats the big issue of this moderating the thread.
lately that i finally realized that we are a victim and lose our 1 month of time promoting the said project.
Now i already learn my lesson and never joined any bounty runs here,old days are gone so why would i risk my time in those shitcoins.
though there is a currency that i thought is scam because of not showing any progress for years but recently make a move up,though the value is still peanut still i have some views for the future.
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July 31, 2020, 01:56:28 AM
#28
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Another thing, participating in bounty campaign should only done with a reputable bounty manager. Even if it is self-moderated, as long as the bounty manager is well-known, there is nothing to worry about. There are other bounty manager that do self-moderated threads to avoid questions and possible accusations about the project. They can easily manage to hide it to other members, so, we really better be careful.
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July 31, 2020, 01:51:34 AM
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The only reason why someone will use self moderated on a thread is to monitor what members are posting in the thread, it's another good way to avoid tough questions, the BM can easily delete any unwanted questions or posts
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July 31, 2020, 01:31:21 AM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
It should not be self moderated cause there are some observations and notes by the participants that need to be seen and taken measure by campaign manager. Where do you see a campaign that is self moderated? Actually there is no rule about that but some manager activate this feature to avoid such spam and deletiom of some content that should not present on the thread.

Maybe there are sensitive managers who dont like a dirty and crowded thread so they put it to delete some of those nonsense comment.
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July 31, 2020, 01:28:50 AM
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I think these are shady projects, and if they get FUD from the community then they will undoubtedly delete it. That's why they create a self-censoring topic, never waste your time on campaigns like that.
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July 31, 2020, 01:17:52 AM
#24
I don't see the sense of managers moderating the thread. It could be for managers to keep the thread clean or keep it from spam. Anything can happen in any bounty projects and there are reputable project managers out there, so if you are doubtful about a manager's credibility in handling the campaign just do not join.
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July 31, 2020, 01:13:12 AM
#23
Self moderated bounty threads is a bad move for the bounty manager and the project itself, bounty manager might have reasons for using self moderated but I don't see it's usefulness because even if the thread isn't self moderated the BM can still remove any unwanted questions or posts
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July 31, 2020, 01:10:48 AM
#22
I think some managers do that, self-moderated. Because the usual reason is when the campuses end, they can lock in the topic. I didn't know moderate was dangerous like many people said here, to get fake reviews if the announcement thread.
No.
Even if it's not self-moderated, they can lock the topic at their will. It's lockable anytime as long as they are the ones who made the thread. It's not dangerous but there are valid and invalid reasons why they do it.
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July 31, 2020, 01:01:15 AM
#21
That's the risk for those bounty hunters who are chasing a little bit of higher rewards as the reward that will be passed to bounty manger will be included in prize pool. It has some advantages as well .
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July 31, 2020, 12:51:47 AM
#20
Yes, it is very dangerous for us to participate in campaigns like that, I have seen a lot of scam projects with censorship topics and bounty hunters cannot denounce them on those topics.
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July 30, 2020, 11:58:09 PM
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Thank you for pointing this out, it's really bad enough cos most of the Bounty mangers are now using it as a way to do exactly as they want which to me isn't ideal, we'll have made the mistake once and don't intend to repeat again
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July 31, 2020, 12:16:16 AM
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I think some managers do that, self-moderated. Because the usual reason is when the campuses end, they can lock in the topic. I didn't know moderate was dangerous like many people said here, to get fake reviews if the announcement thread.
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July 23, 2020, 01:35:20 PM
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No, even if they are self-moderated, you could always make a new thread to warning other users or start an accusation thread. Just as right now, you try to mention about ibidtowin's project.
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July 23, 2020, 12:16:42 PM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Yes you are spot on and right, i have my own restrictions as regards ibidtowin as well. But why would a Bounty manager hide or self moderate a Bounty thread? That's a redflag.

Also, Bounty manager that refuses to give a direct answer should be ignored
We have too many lazy bounty hunters on this forum that don't even care about deep research, I just pity them because they are wasting time on such project like ibidtowin which is no doubt a Ponzi scheme project, self moderated bounty threads should raise eye brow if you are a cautious type
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July 23, 2020, 12:14:13 PM
#17
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Yes you are spot on and right, i have my own restrictions as regards ibidtowin as well. But why would a Bounty manager hide or self moderate a Bounty thread? That's a redflag.

Also, Bounty manager that refuses to give a direct answer should be ignored
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July 23, 2020, 12:08:49 PM
#17
Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam


Thank you for pointing this out, it's really bad enough cos most of the Bounty mangers are now using it as a way to do exactly as they want which to me isn't ideal, we'll have made the mistake once and don't intend to repeat again
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July 23, 2020, 11:14:31 AM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
I thought nobody is seeing this, I've seen few bounty threads that are self moderated, if I ask any questions it won't take a minutes before the OP removed the post, I think it's better to stay away from such projects, something is definitely fishy about self moderated threads
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July 23, 2020, 11:05:11 AM
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Self moderated thread is reasonable if its used for a good purpose, some managers might use it to prevent the thread from being spammed. Its okey if trusted managers use the feature but I’m hesitant to new ones using the feature because it could be abused.
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July 23, 2020, 09:44:22 AM
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Self-Moderated not only for that's a purpose, even a popular manager will use self-moderation.

The reason why they doing this because when the bounty is over the manager will doing a calculation stake so they will lock the thread until the calculation is over. The manager will unlock again when the calculation is done, sometimes bounty manager will give times for all participants to check the result or make a complaint about the calculation if nothing wrong at all he will lock again.

About scam bounty, you are responsible for your self when join the bounty for making due diligence from your self.
i think this opinion more objective than other's comment. just due this moderation we call this as scam project, there are another important reason that be our concern facing scam bounty.
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July 23, 2020, 09:32:43 AM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Yes, those are dangerous and shady projects. If they intend to scam then you will never be able to complain because they will delete all negative comments. I never participated in such projects
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July 23, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Yes we should avoid self moderated bounty thread because usually they want to cover their red flags, unless you know who they are.
Some top bounty managers are self moderating their thread to reduce spams which is a good thing.
Hunters should join the campaign on normal thread, so they can raise questions freely.
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July 22, 2020, 06:12:58 PM
#11
It depends who is the bounty manager of that bounty. If it's someone who's reputable and decides to moderate the thread, the purpose is to avoid and delete spam messages.
But if it's coming from someone you don't know and just came by through the forum and made a thread for an unknown project, well, you got the right mindset thinking that they're removing posts about questions about their project or bad reviews.
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July 22, 2020, 05:30:10 PM
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It is not a big deal unless the people behind the project have mal intentions or they want to cheat people because this self-moderated thread will help them to edit or remove each and every comment or response so they can delete some responses if the thread is regarding a bounty campaign and by doing so they may deprive the legit participants from their rightful rewards.
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July 22, 2020, 05:21:06 PM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

I do agree on this, self-moderated thread specially for bounties are like censorship. But if you did ask questions and was deleted, you can open a thread about it in Reputation board to call the attention of the bounty manager. But definitely, this is a red flag to me.
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July 22, 2020, 04:53:30 PM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam

Yes, I agree with you, and most scam projects make the thread to self moderated in order to prevent people from exposing them,this indicates that they will not pay bounty hunters in the end, Also, you notice in the first comments on the topic that all the comments are positive from Newbie's accounts. If it is an honest project, its team must answer all positive and negative questions and eliminate investor concerns and fears, They do not need to delete people's comments.
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July 22, 2020, 03:44:57 PM
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Sometimes the teams are scared of negative comments and fud that is why they use this option.
But i do not think it is suggested option, I mean let people complain or expose if there is something wrong and i think no serious project will have problem with that
Rather all good projects encourage the feedback and they should try to overcome the problems identified and be active and responsive this will boost community trust and will have a positive impact on the project.
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July 22, 2020, 03:37:26 PM
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Self-Moderated not only for that's a purpose, even a popular manager will use self-moderation.

The reason why they doing this because when the bounty is over the manager will doing a calculation stake so they will lock the thread until the calculation is over. The manager will unlock again when the calculation is done, sometimes bounty manager will give times for all participants to check the result or make a complaint about the calculation if nothing wrong at all he will lock again.

About scam bounty, you are responsible for your self when join the bounty for making due diligence from your self.
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July 22, 2020, 03:30:52 PM
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It's no wonder and there have been many cases like this before. actually joined bounty managed by their own team has enough risk in between.
- lock thread bounty
- lock ann thread
- manipulate spreadsheets
- reduce bounty allocation
- not pay participants
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July 22, 2020, 03:29:08 PM
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I would go one step ahead and say that self moderated thread especially of an ico or a bounty campaign should be considered as a red flag and such projects should be avoided both for investment and promotions, as simple as that.
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July 22, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
Yeah, it is definitely a delibrate attempt from the project team to hide the facts and silence the critics, I think this option should not be available in the forum because it should provide freedom of expression to everyone in a democratic way.
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July 22, 2020, 02:53:49 PM
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Not only bounty threads that are self-moderated are dangerous, but even more risky is when announcement thread is self-moderated with a number of fake positive reviews. This could easily lead into misinterpretation that this is a solid project, especially if you are a newcomer and do not understand it.  Roll Eyes
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July 22, 2020, 02:46:49 PM
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Guys please be careful with bounty campaign threads that is self moderated by the bounty manager, it means you won't be able to ask questions or raise an alarm in the thread, presently it's what the bounty manager of ibidtowin project did. Most self moderated bounty thread are scam
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