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Topic: [Boxing] Le'Veon Bell vs Uriah Hall - October 29th (Read 167 times)

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Anyone catch this fight while waiting to watch the main event this past Saturday ( Jake Paul versus Anderson Silva)? It certainly wasn't the best fight of the night, and unfortunately no one knocked anyone out, but it was certainly a strong lesson for LeVeon Bell...he's got along ways to go to be a legitimate fighter. 

His last fight being versus Adrian Peterson, another former pro NFL player certainly was a different type of fight than his fight with Hall this past Saturday, a former UFC fighter.  He may not be a boxer but he's trained in fighting, which obviously gives him a huge leg up.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

Well! that's just how it goes especially when athletes or celebrities were popular. They earned it because they already gained that popularity and honors when they were in another sport. So when it came to boxing, they get the same attention they had back then. Unlike those real figthers, they need to have amazing records before getting the recognition they want and to have a blockbuster fight with huge payment for pay-per-views.

Yeah exactly, outside of the Paul brother, which is an entirely different conversation in my opinion, these guys are former professional athletes, and not just professional athletes, but world class guys who were good enough to be stars in the NBA/NFL, two sports that require you to be an athlete freak of nature. 

I just think they shouldn't be viewed as a full on pro-match.  It might be pro, but we all know it's not Tyson vs Holyfield so we shouldn't judge it was such or expect it as such.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

Well! that's just how it goes especially when athletes or celebrities were popular. They earned it because they already gained that popularity and honors when they were in another sport. So when it came to boxing, they get the same attention they had back then. Unlike those real figthers, they need to have amazing records before getting the recognition they want and to have a blockbuster fight with huge payment for pay-per-views.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.
That's true, true boxing followers would like to see real boxers square in the ring than people who just bank on their name to make money in an industry where they don't belong, are we lacking good fights that people are patronizing exhibitions from non-boxers, this has been going on for a few years now unless real boxers knock out the Paul brothers, until then people will stop watching this trend in boxing.

So these world class athletes don’t belong in boxing? Why not? That’s a silly statement. No one if forcing you to watch these matches. Not to mention in particular guys like these two football players Bell and Paterson are legitimate amateur boxers who’ve been training for some time.

Not to mention this has been good for boxing in general. The sport has been hurting for a long time and this is brining a lot of attention to it.

These kinds of matches including what the Pauls did actually bring lots of thier fans into the boxing world. Just look at how NFL fans now realize boxing can be a good sport to learn not just football since this is a kind of martial art to defend yourself.

I find it entertaining actually but they got to have some special training the kind that boxers do. Because this is also a combat sport that can damage them, blocking jabs should be easy for them to learn.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.
That's true, true boxing followers would like to see real boxers square in the ring than people who just bank on their name to make money in an industry where they don't belong, are we lacking good fights that people are patronizing exhibitions from non-boxers, this has been going on for a few years now unless real boxers knock out the Paul brothers, until then people will stop watching this trend in boxing.

So these world class athletes don’t belong in boxing? Why not? That’s a silly statement. No one if forcing you to watch these matches. Not to mention in particular guys like these two football players Bell and Paterson are legitimate amateur boxers who’ve been training for some time.

Not to mention this has been good for boxing in general. The sport has been hurting for a long time and this is brining a lot of attention to it.
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I haven't heard both of them, it's a new names for me. Le'Veon Bell ever knocked out Adrian Peterson, but Peterson is a NFL player too, while Uriah Hall is different. He's an UFC fighter, at least he have learn about boxing especially most of his record on UFC end via KO. I think Uriah Hall will be heavy favorited.

That's true, true boxing followers would like to see real boxers square in the ring than people who just bank on their name to make money in an industry where they don't belong, are we lacking good fights that people are patronizing exhibitions from non-boxers, this has been going on for a few years now unless real boxers knock out the Paul brothers, until then people will stop watching this trend in boxing.
Although it's like a circus, but they're taking for professional fight, not an exhibition fight.

I doubt we will ever see Paul brothers got knock out, even Mayweather can't knock out Logan Paul, so it must be a something agreement to not make Logan Paul reputation looks bad.
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Boxing is much easier to train and prepare for, in contrast to MMA.

The main reason professional fighters select MMA over boxing is boxers usually needing to compile 20-0 records before fighting for a championship or seeing a good payday.

Wheras in MMA it is possible to have a title shot or be paid well with as little as a 5-0 record.

However with the inception of Jake Paul and Logan Paul the nature of boxing has changed. Athletes with fewer than 5 professional boxing matches are being paid well, as long as they have a good following on social media. This is something that has never been seen before in boxing. Its good for athletes and celebrities. Although over the long term, it could devalue boxing as a sport. If the market becomes too saturated with unvetted amateurs competing at the highest levels.

This is good for entertainment purposes. Although I am not a fan of events like this. I would rather see real MMA and boxing. It is hard to compare boxing and MMA because they are really different sports. It's like saying that it is easy to play chess which is true but is it easy to make it to the world level or IM or GM?

The numbers of fights are sometimes misleading. Most MMA from the big leagues like UFC, Bellator, and ONE spent years in kickboxing, boxing, wrestling, and many other forms of combat sports. Just like boxing too, even if Lomachenko, Inoue, and Usyk became world champions in 10 or fewer fights but they spent years as amateurs.

The point is there are more boxers that are earning millions of dollars even in their early 20s and some of them are not even world champions like Ryan Garcia. In the UFC (the biggest stage of MMA) you'd be glad to earn a title shot before 30. And we all know both sports can generate as much money but shares to boxers are way too bigger. The biggest superstars in boxing can become highest paid athletes if they fight 3 times a year.

Jake Paul's entry into boxing hasn't changed the usual real boxing competition and its purse. Jake Paul only opened the door to more celebrity boxing events either professional or not, although they are not really sanctioned by the major boxing organizations.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.
That's true, true boxing followers would like to see real boxers square in the ring than people who just bank on their name to make money in an industry where they don't belong, are we lacking good fights that people are patronizing exhibitions from non-boxers, this has been going on for a few years now unless real boxers knock out the Paul brothers, until then people will stop watching this trend in boxing.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

That's the grim reality of sporting events though. Not a lot of stars are recognized nowadays because of their technical skills or great potential, but because they are appealing to the viewers and have that certain charisma which everyone kinda just likes. Nothing wrong with that, though if we are watching sporting events, why isn't our main concern be laid on sports?

IMO these events shouldn't be bet on if what they want to flaunt is their presence and not their skills.

Times changed. The influence of the stars like Floyd who has all the skills in the world of boxing and also has the skills to make money didn't make a significant effect to new athletes. The only part they tried understanding is to make money.  

Watched the full fight of Adrian Peterson vs Le'veon Bell, we can obviously see how they are not able to learn yet how boxers do it to get a better angle and make the full strength using the foot work.  
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Boxing is much easier to train and prepare for, in contrast to MMA.

The main reason professional fighters select MMA over boxing is boxers usually needing to compile 20-0 records before fighting for a championship or seeing a good payday.

Wheras in MMA it is possible to have a title shot or be paid well with as little as a 5-0 record.

However with the inception of Jake Paul and Logan Paul the nature of boxing has changed. Athletes with fewer than 5 professional boxing matches are being paid well, as long as they have a good following on social media. This is something that has never been seen before in boxing. Its good for athletes and celebrities. Although over the long term, it could devalue boxing as a sport. If the market becomes too saturated with unvetted amateurs competing at the highest levels.
Yes, but there are few exceptions like Loma who fought for a championship in his 2nd fight if I'm not mistaken. And of course, there are fewer MMA fighters as compare to boxers, in which boxing exist till the turn of the centuries. And so obviously, boxers will have to compete with a lot while MMA you can have 5 straight wins and then you are guaranteed for a title fight.

Th Paul brothers is different though, there are more of exhibition fighters rather that pure professional boxer so the market is very different.
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Good to see Jake really made a lot of attention to bringing new players from different sports to come into boxing. Uriah Hall is a very popular UFC fighter vs NFL Pro Le'Veon Bell is among the undercard will make more hype and also will show how an athlete is if signed under different sports. Might be inexperience and rusty but yes it's still fun to watch where speculators might have no idea who to bet.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

That's the grim reality of sporting events though. Not a lot of stars are recognized nowadays because of their technical skills or great potential, but because they are appealing to the viewers and have that certain charisma which everyone kinda just likes. Nothing wrong with that, though if we are watching sporting events, why isn't our main concern be laid on sports?

IMO these events shouldn't be bet on if what they want to flaunt is their presence and not their skills.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

True, but as we have been saying, this is all business especially exhibition fights like this.

It open up a lot of opportunities for former sports athlete to fight in the ring and to earn money and paid by sponsors and fans a like. So it will go and continue as long as the paying public is willing. And then there is another factor, the gamblers, who as well willing to bet on this kind of fights. Pro gets their spotlight though, in a regular ring with an opponent, referee and judges and belt on the line. But not sure if they are getting more as compare to this exhibition fighters.
legendary
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Boxing is much easier to train and prepare for, in contrast to MMA.

The main reason professional fighters select MMA over boxing is boxers usually needing to compile 20-0 records before fighting for a championship or seeing a good payday.

Wheras in MMA it is possible to have a title shot or be paid well with as little as a 5-0 record.

However with the inception of Jake Paul and Logan Paul the nature of boxing has changed. Athletes with fewer than 5 professional boxing matches are being paid well, as long as they have a good following on social media. This is something that has never been seen before in boxing. Its good for athletes and celebrities. Although over the long term, it could devalue boxing as a sport. If the market becomes too saturated with unvetted amateurs competing at the highest levels.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.

Who else isn't paid big because of popularity?  It is normal in entertainment business.  Sports as part of the entertainment business is also affected by popularity.  Without popularity, the match won't have any viewer.  That is why many promoters pay huge amount of money to make the match popular.  After all boxing is also a business.  They will cease to operate if no profit is gained on each boxing match.

I don't mind if Boxing is swarmed with exhibition matches, I pay for ticket to get entertained and watch my favorite boxer fight or fight again if he is a retired one.  And most of the possible fight for the retired boxer is having an exhibition match which gives answers to the wishes of several retired boxer fans.

Also an exhibition match answers the what ifs of fans who is willing to pay just to have an answers to those what ifs.  Exhibition fight is a special fight of course, it tends to give a special payment to those participating athlete.

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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.
I have no problem with people going into boxing wherever they came from. My only issue is they get paid because of their popularity and not really on their boxing skills. There are many up and coming professionals that should be given more opportunities in the ring but these "guests" gets the spotlight which is kinda unfair.
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I don't know about you guys but I'm loving seeing these ex-pro athletes starting to get in to boxing. I think it's really helped revitalize the sport in a big way.  For those of you who don't know who Le'Veon Bell is an ex-NFL running back (a very good one too).  He recently just knocked out one of the best running backs of all time Adrian Peterson which you can see here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Ip1_ItIv4

Excited for this fight. What do you all think??

"A unique football-versus-MMA matchup has been added to the Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva undercard.
Former NFL All-Pro running back Le'Veon Bell will face ex-UFC fighter Uriah Hall in a pro boxing match Oct. 29 in Glendale, Arizona.
The four-round contest has been contracted at 195 pounds and neither man can be above 200 pounds on weigh-in day, per officials. Bell and Hall, who are making their professional boxing debuts, will wear 10-ounce gloves. The card is being promoted by Paul's Most Valuable Promotions and distributed by Showtime pay-per-view". https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/34739492/leveon-bell-fight-ex-ufc-fighter-uriah-hall-oct-29
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