[Boxing]: Pacquiao vs. Buakaw - April 20

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

I think betting is not necessary on this fight since it's pretty obvious that Manny will just dominate. I don't even remember that there was a betting odds for the fight of Manny against DK Yoo. Well, in that fight, he dominated DK Yoo who is not a natural boxer.

Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

Huge advantage, they are on a different sport, and not only that, Manny is a legend fighting in his sport, he can't loss here.
What we will get here actually is just pure entertainment and hopefully they'll make draw a good script for the play to entertain the crowd, I'm sure Manny is good at that.

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Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

Great avatar, as you carry the pride of the Philippines there. And I do agree, it's not even a 50/50 or others would say, it's a mismatch. Buakaw is more of a Muai Thai fighter, although he is known for striking, but his weapons of choice is more of the knees and elbows and clinch. We shouldn't speculate though as why Manny is taking this fight, he had many reasons, what we should do is just enjoy him still boxing and semi-retired. Floyd is doing it and no one speculate was to why except many for the fact that it's all about the money. But Manny is different, even if he fights and get a ton of money here, maybe he will just give it back to his locality and constituent as we all know that he is on the Philippine politics and helping in which ever way he can.

For sure Manny Pacquiao found a good reason why he accepted the boxing match with Buakaw. We know that each party has already observed their respective strengths and weaknesses, so maybe Pacquiao was challenged even though most people know that Buakaw's specialization is Muai thai. I hope Manny Pacquiao wins so that at least before he retires from boxing, he can get another belt champion award.

Yes, Manny is a boxer and a legend and perhaps the offer is really good that he can't resists it. And as what he said, when he had a exhibition match, his first against the South Korean Youtuber, he will continue this journey and so this will be his second exhibition fights. Buakaw is built on Muai Thai, another discipline, he is retired though, but if I'm not mistaken, there are also rumors circulating around that he might unretire and fought pro again. But we will see. There are still boxers who are still chasing Manny in pro ranks, like Ryan Garcia when he called out Manny, and again, not sure about it, Crawford or Spence at 147 lbs, Manny used to be a champion year, the last time he beat a young boxer in Thurman as he is the oldest Welterweight.

I dont see for Pacquiao to go again in pro. He might be still have that interest on boxing but his age wont really be fitting out to that. Also, for sure he had already settled down and hang his gloves totally. It would really be normal for those young boxers that would be calling out for the champ on which we know that they would really be trying out to beat up on someone whose been a legend on this Boxing world. So it would be a normal approach. In speaking about exhibition fights then its one of the perks on retiring on being a legend in boxing on which whenever
there would really be some fight agreements such as exhibition fights then they could really still be able to make millions even if they are already that retired. Who doesnt really want nor like that?
Of course you cant just that resist on this one.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

Great avatar, as you carry the pride of the Philippines there. And I do agree, it's not even a 50/50 or others would say, it's a mismatch. Buakaw is more of a Muai Thai fighter, although he is known for striking, but his weapons of choice is more of the knees and elbows and clinch. We shouldn't speculate though as why Manny is taking this fight, he had many reasons, what we should do is just enjoy him still boxing and semi-retired. Floyd is doing it and no one speculate was to why except many for the fact that it's all about the money. But Manny is different, even if he fights and get a ton of money here, maybe he will just give it back to his locality and constituent as we all know that he is on the Philippine politics and helping in which ever way he can.

For sure Manny Pacquiao found a good reason why he accepted the boxing match with Buakaw. We know that each party has already observed their respective strengths and weaknesses, so maybe Pacquiao was challenged even though most people know that Buakaw's specialization is Muai thai. I hope Manny Pacquiao wins so that at least before he retires from boxing, he can get another belt champion award.

Yes, Manny is a boxer and a legend and perhaps the offer is really good that he can't resists it. And as what he said, when he had a exhibition match, his first against the South Korean Youtuber, he will continue this journey and so this will be his second exhibition fights. Buakaw is built on Muai Thai, another discipline, he is retired though, but if I'm not mistaken, there are also rumors circulating around that he might unretire and fought pro again. But we will see. There are still boxers who are still chasing Manny in pro ranks, like Ryan Garcia when he called out Manny, and again, not sure about it, Crawford or Spence at 147 lbs, Manny used to be a champion year, the last time he beat a young boxer in Thurman as he is the oldest Welterweight.

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Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

If it's just for exhibition purposes I think people will buy it regardless. Buakaw is excellent in muay thai, and I'm sure he knows how to handle himself. He's a defensive fighter too, so it will be natural for him to be on guard against a more aggressive Pacquiao. I'd still watch it, though, and probably bet on some other categories and not directly on the match winner as there's obviously no value in it when it comes to such exhibition matches.

Yeah, he know how to defend himself, but against Pacman? I doubt he will even last since it's boxing and Pacman has not become the only 8th division champion for no reason. This maybe an exhibition fight but we know who would possibly win here, unless there's a script that needs to be follow to make it look hard for Pacman. Well, I brought up this "script" thing as there are rumors that exhibition fights follows some script to make it an entertaining event.

I'm sure Pacquiao will try to look impressive here because he is preparing for the Mayweather fight and he wants to look good in this fight to show Floyd that he is still good and impressive in the ring, but Buakaw is not an easy fight, because the guy can take a punch but his being limited with his skill in boxing and the fact that he is more expert in kicking will render him defenseless against Pacman.

It will be good if Pacquiao can knock out Buakaw to scare off Mayweather, Pacquiao has better preparation against Mayweather who is fighting an unknown and inexperienced Gatti, both of their opponents' records will speak on who is the better opponent between Pacquaio and Mayweather.

Perhaps, but I don't think he should force himself to look impressive so that Floyd will fight him. On the contrary, if he see the old version of Pacman, he might redacted again and not fight him even in exhibitions as he might thought that he will lost to Manny.

And regardless of the outcome, Manny will still be the legendary fighter that we al seen and like because of his style. Buakaw is also legend on his own, but this is boxing rules so Pacman rules. I also like @mu_enrico avatar of the Pacman.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

If it's just for exhibition purposes I think people will buy it regardless. Buakaw is excellent in muay thai, and I'm sure he knows how to handle himself. He's a defensive fighter too, so it will be natural for him to be on guard against a more aggressive Pacquiao. I'd still watch it, though, and probably bet on some other categories and not directly on the match winner as there's obviously no value in it when it comes to such exhibition matches.

Yeah, he know how to defend himself, but against Pacman? I doubt he will even last since it's boxing and Pacman has not become the only 8th division champion for no reason. This maybe an exhibition fight but we know who would possibly win here, unless there's a script that needs to be follow to make it look hard for Pacman. Well, I brought up this "script" thing as there are rumors that exhibition fights follows some script to make it an entertaining event.

Beating up Pacman with having those boxing rules? Then this would really be that truly unbelievable on which it is really just that that too impossible that Pacquiao would really be able to
lose on a boxing rule type of exhibition on which we know that Buakaw isnt a boxer type on which we do know that he do comes in other sports and now trying to having
using that boxing rules then it would be understandable on whose gonna one who would really be winning up this exhbition. Both fighters are past into their prime
and this is why its not really shocking that they would once be making out money via with those exhibitions.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

If it's just for exhibition purposes I think people will buy it regardless. Buakaw is excellent in muay thai, and I'm sure he knows how to handle himself. He's a defensive fighter too, so it will be natural for him to be on guard against a more aggressive Pacquiao. I'd still watch it, though, and probably bet on some other categories and not directly on the match winner as there's obviously no value in it when it comes to such exhibition matches.

Yeah, he know how to defend himself, but against Pacman? I doubt he will even last since it's boxing and Pacman has not become the only 8th division champion for no reason. This maybe an exhibition fight but we know who would possibly win here, unless there's a script that needs to be follow to make it look hard for Pacman. Well, I brought up this "script" thing as there are rumors that exhibition fights follows some script to make it an entertaining event.

I'm sure Pacquiao will try to look impressive here because he is preparing for the Mayweather fight and he wants to look good in this fight to show Floyd that he is still good and impressive in the ring, but Buakaw is not an easy fight, because the guy can take a punch but his being limited with his skill in boxing and the fact that he is more expert in kicking will render him defenseless against Pacman.

It will be good if Pacquiao can knock out Buakaw to scare off Mayweather, Pacquiao has better preparation against Mayweather who is fighting an unknown and inexperienced Gatti, both of their opponents' records will speak on who is the better opponent between Pacquaio and Mayweather.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

If it's just for exhibition purposes I think people will buy it regardless. Buakaw is excellent in muay thai, and I'm sure he knows how to handle himself. He's a defensive fighter too, so it will be natural for him to be on guard against a more aggressive Pacquiao. I'd still watch it, though, and probably bet on some other categories and not directly on the match winner as there's obviously no value in it when it comes to such exhibition matches.

Yeah, he know how to defend himself, but against Pacman? I doubt he will even last since it's boxing and Pacman has not become the only 8th division champion for no reason. This maybe an exhibition fight but we know who would possibly win here, unless there's a script that needs to be follow to make it look hard for Pacman. Well, I brought up this "script" thing as there are rumors that exhibition fights follows some script to make it an entertaining event.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

If it's just for exhibition purposes I think people will buy it regardless. Buakaw is excellent in muay thai, and I'm sure he knows how to handle himself. He's a defensive fighter too, so it will be natural for him to be on guard against a more aggressive Pacquiao. I'd still watch it, though, and probably bet on some other categories and not directly on the match winner as there's obviously no value in it when it comes to such exhibition matches.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

Great avatar, as you carry the pride of the Philippines there. And I do agree, it's not even a 50/50 or others would say, it's a mismatch. Buakaw is more of a Muai Thai fighter, although he is known for striking, but his weapons of choice is more of the knees and elbows and clinch. We shouldn't speculate though as why Manny is taking this fight, he had many reasons, what we should do is just enjoy him still boxing and semi-retired. Floyd is doing it and no one speculate was to why except many for the fact that it's all about the money. But Manny is different, even if he fights and get a ton of money here, maybe he will just give it back to his locality and constituent as we all know that he is on the Philippine politics and helping in which ever way he can.

For sure Manny Pacquiao found a good reason why he accepted the boxing match with Buakaw. We know that each party has already observed their respective strengths and weaknesses, so maybe Pacquiao was challenged even though most people know that Buakaw's specialization is Muai thai. I hope Manny Pacquiao wins so that at least before he retires from boxing, he can get another belt champion award.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on February 07, 2024, 02:34:43 AM

Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

Great avatar, as you carry the pride of the Philippines there. And I do agree, it's not even a 50/50 or others would say, it's a mismatch. Buakaw is more of a Muai Thai fighter, although he is known for striking, but his weapons of choice is more of the knees and elbows and clinch. We shouldn't speculate though as why Manny is taking this fight, he had many reasons, what we should do is just enjoy him still boxing and semi-retired. Floyd is doing it and no one speculate was to why except many for the fact that it's all about the money. But Manny is different, even if he fights and get a ton of money here, maybe he will just give it back to his locality and constituent as we all know that he is on the Philippine politics and helping in which ever way he can.

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Buakaw isn't even a boxer and is not much younger, not sure if this is a good matchup.
But Pacquiao always gives his 100% as seen in his fight against DK Yoo with no mercy even if it's an exhibition Grin

Now imagine if Buakaw makes him angry... IMO the chance of Buakaw winning is slim since Muaythay is more about knee, elbow, and spinning back fist. Rooting for Pacman to win, as seen on my avatar, lol.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

Yeah, same with Pacman's exhibition match with DK Yoo where sports bookies didn't bother to cover and release some odds for betting.

Same here also, not excited anymore hearing Pacman's name on the news that he will fight as his glory days in boxing is over.

I don't know why Manny is still doing this kind of stuff, he has the money to enjoy life without engaging himself into this kind of circus.

As a fan and overall boxing fans, we have to see boxers who retired and then after just a couple of years wanted to get back, whether professional or thru exhibition matches. However, we can't really put the blame on this boxers as this is the new trend for them. Some of Manny's contemporaries did fight in exhibition match and it's all for the fun of it.

So for me it's fine, as long as they are not putting their health on the line and they are still very much strong like Manny is even as his age. He is very lucky to have that kind of genetics as if he really didn't retire. Maybe he gain a couple of pounds, but I think if he seriously goes to the gym and train as hard as he did before when he was at his peak, he can still compete at high level.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

Yeah, same with Pacman's exhibition match with DK Yoo where sports bookies didn't bother to cover and release some odds for betting.

Same here also, not excited anymore hearing Pacman's name on the news that he will fight as his glory days in boxing is over.

I don't know why Manny is still doing this kind of stuff, he has the money to enjoy life without engaging himself into this kind of circus.

I have to agree, but if I can speculate, we could all agree that maybe,

a. Manny Pacquiao has lost money when he bid for the Presidency in his native country,
b. He is not doing good, business is losing money
c. He still love the sport and so after he retired, he still want to continue in his capacity to be involved even in exhibition matches
d. He can't refuse the good offer by whoever promoter who set up this fight

So there's a lot of pros/cons on Manny taking exhibition fights, but his only person that can answer it. We as fans can only speculate what's the reason behind.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 30, 2023, 04:33:30 AM

I knew about the McGregor fight, but not with Ryan Garcia.

In fact, Pacman was ordered to pay $5 million to Paradigm Sports Management, this was on the possible fight between him and McGregor but didn't happen.

You can read the full story here : https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/pacquiao-loses-case-united-states-firm-ordered-pay-millions/

It should be the promoter who pays the fighter or boxer, not the boxer. then why did the McGregor side ask for a 5 million dollar fee to pacman. yes if he asked pacman, obviously pacman would refuse the fight against McGregor.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

Yeah, same with Pacman's exhibition match with DK Yoo where sports bookies didn't bother to cover and release some odds for betting.

Same here also, not excited anymore hearing Pacman's name on the news that he will fight as his glory days in boxing is over.

I don't know why Manny is still doing this kind of stuff, he has the money to enjoy life without engaging himself into this kind of circus.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 06, 2024, 07:02:18 PM

Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

Top crypto will surely release odds here as this is considered as a top exhibition match because of Pacquiao and if there's a money, betting site will grab it. This is not exciting because this is just an exhibition match but many are already showing their interest to see Pacquiao back in the boxing ring again but on a difference scenario. Let's see if there will be changes for this exhibition and see if the team of Pacquiao will start hyping this one.

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Although I'm still looking forward to this exhibition match, I am not as excited when it comes to betting on this. I'm not even sure if odds will be released by the top crypto betting sites. I highly doubt it. I tried looking for betting odds elsewhere and I'm not very lucky either. I guess this will just be a fight to watch and not to bet on.

As regards the fight, I think Pacquiao is at an advantage primarily because this is a boxing match. Buakaw can box, too, but it's just not his sport. Well, this is pure entertainment anyway.

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It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

One of the benefits or opportunity for those who do become legendary fighters is that there is really a huge fan base on which it would really be that still interested
if ever they would really be deciding on having those possible matches. Doesnt matter if its an exhibition as long they could really be able to see them fight on the ring.
Doesnt matter if its a cross sport match based or what, there would really be always those sports fans would really be loving to see these matches.
When it comes on betting on exhibitions then its true that im not really that someone whose really that interested on betting into these matches on which we do know
that this is could really end up on a draw or having no decision or it is really obviously on whose gonna win because of the boxing rules that had been set out.
So its not a brainer on which one whose gonna win.

What do you mean not a brainer on which one is going to win? For me, it's more difficult to predict who is going to win in an exhibition match. In the first place the fighters are not fighting for their record or a belt or whatever. They're simply fighting to entertain the fans. So there is reason to think that they are not really undergoing rigid trainings and preparations, nutrition, diet, etc. It's understandable because they're not fighting professionally. And they're already old. So this could just be a match purely for fun. It's therefore hard to analyze.

Perhaps what he meant is both are great fighters no doubt about it, they are legend, but it's different discipline, and this fight is going to be boxing rule and so Manny has all the advantage. And yes, this is just to entertainment and so not to be taken seriously, but still fans are going to see Manny showing us what he love against him, his speed and killer instinct inside the ring.

The fight is months still and I haven't check crypto sport bookies if the odds is listed or not. But I believed Manny here is going to be a huge favorite. And being a fan, I will not bet on this fight though, just happy to see two legends together and that will be enough for me.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2024, 07:27:36 AM

It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

One of the benefits or opportunity for those who do become legendary fighters is that there is really a huge fan base on which it would really be that still interested
if ever they would really be deciding on having those possible matches. Doesnt matter if its an exhibition as long they could really be able to see them fight on the ring.
Doesnt matter if its a cross sport match based or what, there would really be always those sports fans would really be loving to see these matches.
When it comes on betting on exhibitions then its true that im not really that someone whose really that interested on betting into these matches on which we do know
that this is could really end up on a draw or having no decision or it is really obviously on whose gonna win because of the boxing rules that had been set out.
So its not a brainer on which one whose gonna win.

What do you mean not a brainer on which one is going to win? For me, it's more difficult to predict who is going to win in an exhibition match. In the first place the fighters are not fighting for their record or a belt or whatever. They're simply fighting to entertain the fans. So there is reason to think that they are not really undergoing rigid trainings and preparations, nutrition, diet, etc. It's understandable because they're not fighting professionally. And they're already old. So this could just be a match purely for fun. It's therefore hard to analyze.

I get it. Both might not take it seriously since it's just an exhibition match. But carlfebz2 is right, it's no-brainer on who will win this fight because this is a boxing exhibition match and Manny Pacquiao is a boxer, while Buakaw is a kick boxer. Have you seen a kick boxer beaten a popular boxer in an exhibition matches?

I believe fought a UFC fighter (mayb similar to kick boxing), Jake Paul as well, these two popular fights picked a UFC figher for their exhibition matches and they never lose a fight ,so let's assume that we will see the same outcome here.

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It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

One of the benefits or opportunity for those who do become legendary fighters is that there is really a huge fan base on which it would really be that still interested
if ever they would really be deciding on having those possible matches. Doesnt matter if its an exhibition as long they could really be able to see them fight on the ring.
Doesnt matter if its a cross sport match based or what, there would really be always those sports fans would really be loving to see these matches.
When it comes on betting on exhibitions then its true that im not really that someone whose really that interested on betting into these matches on which we do know
that this is could really end up on a draw or having no decision or it is really obviously on whose gonna win because of the boxing rules that had been set out.
So its not a brainer on which one whose gonna win.

What do you mean not a brainer on which one is going to win? For me, it's more difficult to predict who is going to win in an exhibition match. In the first place the fighters are not fighting for their record or a belt or whatever. They're simply fighting to entertain the fans. So there is reason to think that they are not really undergoing rigid trainings and preparations, nutrition, diet, etc. It's understandable because they're not fighting professionally. And they're already old. So this could just be a match purely for fun. It's therefore hard to analyze.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2024, 07:27:36 AM

It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

Yes, and there are also no disrespect, unlike in Floyd's fight wherein even in exhibitions matches, it's looks like him or his opponent has a grudge to settle. But in Manny's fight in exhibition, there are so much respect shown, just like when he fought the South Korean, Manny holding and doesn't want to put some damage on the guy because he knows that it's a mismatch and that he can still pull the trigger and even knockout someone even if it is exhibitions. And this could be the same here, no belt, but them and the fans are going to be happy seeing both legends. There could be some fans though who are going to bet here even if it is just a exhibition matches.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2024, 07:27:36 AM

It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

One of the benefits or opportunity for those who do become legendary fighters is that there is really a huge fan base on which it would really be that still interested
if ever they would really be deciding on having those possible matches. Doesnt matter if its an exhibition as long they could really be able to see them fight on the ring.
Doesnt matter if its a cross sport match based or what, there would really be always those sports fans would really be loving to see these matches.
When it comes on betting on exhibitions then its true that im not really that someone whose really that interested on betting into these matches on which we do know
that this is could really end up on a draw or having no decision or it is really obviously on whose gonna win because of the boxing rules that had been set out.
So its not a brainer on which one whose gonna win.

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It's good that old fighters still get to do what they love, which is fighting, even if they're already at an age which is considered old for such a sport. Fans often miss these fighters. And what's more important is that these legends can still earn big bucks in these exhibition matches. Pacquiao and Buakaw are two giants in the fighting scene, although in different sports. No bad blood between them. No belt, championship, or ranking being chased. This is for fun mainly. But it's also the reason why I'm not that interested in betting in exhibition matches.

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Yeah right, knowing pacquiao as one of the defending champion in the world of boxing, It's nice to know that he's going to fight again since He mentioned then that he will retire from boxing and he will focus on the senate in the Philippine government. I can see that many gamblers will come out and bet huge amounts, I know most of them will definitely vote for pacquiao.

This fight isn't really the most interesting fight of Manny this year, but his fight with Mayweather which he previously announce. Although there's no confirmation yet from Mayweather, but Manny would not made up stories just to hype the fans or call the attention of Mayweather, most likely there's already a on going discussion on the possible big fight, a rematch but on a exhibition fight.

Buakaw is great though but boxing is Manny's territory, so I don't see any chance that Buakaw would beat him, and we can't compare this to Francis vs Tyson Fury as it's completely a different story.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Yeah right, knowing pacquiao as one of the defending champion in the world of boxing, It's nice to know that he's going to fight again since He mentioned then that he will retire from boxing and he will focus on the senate in the Philippine government. I can see that many gamblers will come out and bet huge amounts, I know most of them will definitely vote for pacquiao.

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Pacquiao even at this age I believed is still very quick and fast and still has the power as for me, that is God given talent. In any case, they will sure be showing here in their best shape of their life. And both can sell this fights, put fans in the seats or even in PPV just to see this two legends in the ring.

Actually, being still in shape is the reason why Pacquiao was involved right away in exhibition matches after retiring. Especially in his status today that he no more multi-tasking activities e.g being a politician, basketball player, billiard player, sabong enthusiast at the same time. He missed his right away his profession the moment he stepped outside the politics.

Yes, we've been seeing him very active on the sport. However, I don't see him getting into sabong anymore. I think he already stopped that when he became a born again christian from being a catholic. But regardless though, I still feel he is a very positive man and he is enjoying his retirement. Even before, I'm hearing a lot of comments that Manny makes boxing only as his sidejob and yet he still remained as a champion.

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He can still fight in a professional match and he is open with that mentioning it in some of his interviews after retirement. However, it seems fighting in an exhibition match is way more wise to do now. It's great that he's up in an exhibition match right away after retiring and not wait to become too old before doing that. The present generation can still witnessed the post-prime Pacquiao.

I think he still mentioned Crawford, not sure if he is just messing up or he's really serious but you are right, it's not wise to be in the profesional fight again since he has already achieved the biggest achievement in boxing, there's nothing to prove. What he should do now is, enjoy his retirement, get some exhibition fights to keep that cash flowing in.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 25, 2024, 03:32:22 PM

Pacquiao even at this age I believed is still very quick and fast and still has the power as for me, that is God given talent. In any case, they will sure be showing here in their best shape of their life. And both can sell this fights, put fans in the seats or even in PPV just to see this two legends in the ring.

Actually, being still in shape is the reason why Pacquiao was involved right away in exhibition matches after retiring. Especially in his status today that he no more multi-tasking activities e.g being a politician, basketball player, billiard player, sabong enthusiast at the same time. He missed his right away his profession the moment he stepped outside the politics.

He can still fight in a professional match and he is open with that mentioning it in some of his interviews after retirement. However, it seems fighting in an exhibition match is way more wise to do now. It's great that he's up in an exhibition match right away after retiring and not wait to become too old before doing that. The present generation can still witnessed the post-prime Pacquiao.

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We never know what could happen in this fight, but we shouldn't expect a lot since it's just an exhibition fight while the fight of Ngannou against francis was a profesionnal fight although it wasn't a title fight. This fight happened to make fans happy, and both fighters had already promised to receive a decent amount of paycheck after the fight because promoters knows they can easily sell this. Who wouldn't fight Pacman and Buakaw right? Although we know that Pacman has the upper hand, but we are still curious what Buakaw could do against a hall of famer that are still active in maintaining his shape.

I like this fight better than the Mayweather - Gotti fight because that's a total mismatch and not worth watching, while this one is a battle of two legends even though its an exhibition fight they can showcase their skills on the sports they have excelled that made them legends.
Obviously Pacquiao has an edge here since this is a boxing match where Pacquiao is well skilled on this combat, but Buakaw being a legend in his own sports can matchup Pacquiao's power and speed of course minus the kicks, elbows and knees.
I have seen how good is Buakaw he is fast but since he is restricted he will have to rely on his punching power but he needs to move a lot as Pacquiao is good at delivering his punches.

The Mayweather-Gotti fight was a disgraced for boxing, it's not about how it is mismatch, but how the fight turns into like a melee and everyone jumps on the ring and try to fight. And I don't think that this will happen in Pacquaio vs Buakaw as this two are legends in their respective sports and so will not act like a gangster inside the ring.

Pacquiao even at this age I believed is still very quick and fast and still has the power as for me, that is God given talent. In any case, they will sure be showing here in their best shape of their life. And both can sell this fights, put fans in the seats or even in PPV just to see this two legends in the ring.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 25, 2024, 07:52:16 AM

We never know what could happen in this fight, but we shouldn't expect a lot since it's just an exhibition fight while the fight of Ngannou against francis was a profesionnal fight although it wasn't a title fight. This fight happened to make fans happy, and both fighters had already promised to receive a decent amount of paycheck after the fight because promoters knows they can easily sell this. Who wouldn't fight Pacman and Buakaw right? Although we know that Pacman has the upper hand, but we are still curious what Buakaw could do against a hall of famer that are still active in maintaining his shape.

I like this fight better than the Mayweather - Gotti fight because that's a total mismatch and not worth watching, while this one is a battle of two legends even though its an exhibition fight they can showcase their skills on the sports they have excelled that made them legends.
Obviously Pacquiao has an edge here since this is a boxing match where Pacquiao is well skilled on this combat, but Buakaw being a legend in his own sports can matchup Pacquiao's power and speed of course minus the kicks, elbows and knees.
I have seen how good is Buakaw he is fast but since he is restricted he will have to rely on his punching power but he needs to move a lot as Pacquiao is good at delivering his punches.

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Cant see much to discuss here. Boxer faces non-boxer with boxing skills. The result if obvious - draw Cheesy

As this is an exhibition fight. This is actually an absurd fight. Buakaw is totally disarmed. A muay thai without kick, knees, elbows, clinch, sweeps. To make this fight fair, the rules should allow Pacquiao only to use, lets say jab and uppercut. Then this would be a fair fight. It would be more fair if they would have a fight under Muay Thai rules after.

Not going to happen though, but in any case we have seen Francis Ngannou almost knockout a prime Tyson Fury and almost get a win, but that's pro fight though, Francis decided to go after boxing and proven that MMA fighters can go and fight in a boxing ring with boxing rules. But this fight, it's all for the money, they have been offered a good amount, so I doubt that they can refused it and of course since it's going to be in the ring, then boxing rules and just like any other exhibitions fights for that matter, their rules are going to be used. I haven't check the odds though if crypto based casinos have listed it already. But we all know who's going to be the favorite here.

We never know what could happen in this fight, but we shouldn't expect a lot since it's just an exhibition fight while the fight of Ngannou against francis was a profesionnal fight although it wasn't a title fight. This fight happened to make fans happy, and both fighters had already promised to receive a decent amount of paycheck after the fight because promoters knows they can easily sell this. Who wouldn't fight Pacman and Buakaw right? Although we know that Pacman has the upper hand, but we are still curious what Buakaw could do against a hall of famer that are still active in maintaining his shape.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 05, 2024, 07:32:02 AM

Cant see much to discuss here. Boxer faces non-boxer with boxing skills. The result if obvious - draw Cheesy

As this is an exhibition fight. This is actually an absurd fight. Buakaw is totally disarmed. A muay thai without kick, knees, elbows, clinch, sweeps. To make this fight fair, the rules should allow Pacquiao only to use, lets say jab and uppercut. Then this would be a fair fight. It would be more fair if they would have a fight under Muay Thai rules after.

Not going to happen though, but in any case we have seen Francis Ngannou almost knockout a prime Tyson Fury and almost get a win, but that's pro fight though, Francis decided to go after boxing and proven that MMA fighters can go and fight in a boxing ring with boxing rules. But this fight, it's all for the money, they have been offered a good amount, so I doubt that they can refused it and of course since it's going to be in the ring, then boxing rules and just like any other exhibitions fights for that matter, their rules are going to be used. I haven't check the odds though if crypto based casinos have listed it already. But we all know who's going to be the favorite here.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 05, 2024, 07:32:02 AM

Cant see much to discuss here. Boxer faces non-boxer with boxing skills. The result if obvious - draw Cheesy

As this is an exhibition fight. This is actually an absurd fight. Buakaw is totally disarmed. A muay thai without kick, knees, elbows, clinch, sweeps. To make this fight fair, the rules should allow Pacquiao only to use, lets say jab and uppercut. Then this would be a fair fight. It would be more fair if they would have a fight under Muay Thai rules after.

I agree boxing skill is only secondary for Muay Thai fighters they mostly rely on their knees elbows and legs for their advantage and without this Buakaw is just an amateur boxer, but Buakaw is known for his toughness and he can take punches so let's see if he can take it Buakaw has 300 fights about his chances he may have a slim chance to beat Pacquiao but he can give him a decent fight because Buakaw never back down on all his fight.
I wonder if Buakaw suddenly forgot that it was a boxing match and switched to Muay Thai because he is used to fighting in Muay Thai style, this is something worth watching.

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Cant see much to discuss here. Boxer faces non-boxer with boxing skills. The result if obvious - draw Cheesy

As this is an exhibition fight. This is actually an absurd fight. Buakaw is totally disarmed. A muay thai without kick, knees, elbows, clinch, sweeps. To make this fight fair, the rules should allow Pacquiao only to use, lets say jab and uppercut. Then this would be a fair fight. It would be more fair if they would have a fight under Muay Thai rules after.

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I do not really know Buakaw but since they are fighting with boxing rules the victory should be for Pacquiao, still it will be interesting to see how his boxing skills are holding up, as father time is unforgiving and it is possible there could have been a significant decrease on his abilities, however for those that love Pacquiao and everything that he represents this is a fight they cannot really afford to miss, since we do not know if this could be his last fight.

You have to check Buakaw's highlights and judge if Buakaw is an easy fight, he is not a legendary Muay Thai boxer for nothing he is ruthless in the ring and Muay Thai is very similar to boxing minus the low kick, Pacquiao will have an advantage on speed and skill but I believe when it comes to power they are equal Buakaw has over 300 fights, this is indeed a very busy fight for Pacquiao this year he has another fight coming after against Buakaw but he must show a good performance against Buakaw for the Mayweather fight becomes attractive, same with Mayweather against Gotti.

Boom! The Deadliest Knockout Machine EVER - Buakaw Banchamek

My boy Pacman has fought a lot of knockout artists, but it was his quickness that helped him win. So, I don't think Buakaw will beat Pacman because if Pacman still possesses that quickness, he could tire Buakaw out, possibly leading to an early knockout. While Buakaw is very dangerous in kickboxing, and one might think it's somewhat similar to boxing, the dynamics are different.

Maybe this will end up like Fury vs. Francis Ngannou, where Fury still won despite a close fight and getting knocked down once.

Just to add though, this is just a exhibition fight so it might not be as competitive as the Fury vs Ngannou as Manny could hold his power and not go full force against Buakaw and obviously this is just for entertainment only.

But definitely if we see the Manny landed some on Buakaw, we might see have flashbacks of the old Manny wherein he was knocking down or at least dominating his opponents with that speed and power and winning and becoming a 8 division champion. So we will see in this fight, Buakaw though is also a legend in mixed martial arts, but the rules here is boxing in this fight so it's going to be all Manny here.

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I do not really know Buakaw but since they are fighting with boxing rules the victory should be for Pacquiao, still it will be interesting to see how his boxing skills are holding up, as father time is unforgiving and it is possible there could have been a significant decrease on his abilities, however for those that love Pacquiao and everything that he represents this is a fight they cannot really afford to miss, since we do not know if this could be his last fight.

You have to check Buakaw's highlights and judge if Buakaw is an easy fight, he is not a legendary Muay Thai boxer for nothing he is ruthless in the ring and Muay Thai is very similar to boxing minus the low kick, Pacquiao will have an advantage on speed and skill but I believe when it comes to power they are equal Buakaw has over 300 fights, this is indeed a very busy fight for Pacquiao this year he has another fight coming after against Buakaw but he must show a good performance against Buakaw for the Mayweather fight becomes attractive, same with Mayweather against Gotti.

Boom! The Deadliest Knockout Machine EVER - Buakaw Banchamek

My boy Pacman has fought a lot of knockout artists, but it was his quickness that helped him win. So, I don't think Buakaw will beat Pacman because if Pacman still possesses that quickness, he could tire Buakaw out, possibly leading to an early knockout. While Buakaw is very dangerous in kickboxing, and one might think it's somewhat similar to boxing, the dynamics are different.

Maybe this will end up like Fury vs. Francis Ngannou, where Fury still won despite a close fight and getting knocked down once.

When it comes to exhibition fights then it would be better that you shouldnt really be minding yourself about on how these fighters would be taking up the fight considering that they are past into their prime then it would really be understandable that there would really be some degrade of their performance as they are already that older but having against with much younger and that strong then there might be chance but
since this fight would really be using up some boxing rules then it would really be that understandable on whose gonna win considering on the rules but well its not really something to be serious on whose gonna
win because it was an exhibition fight since from the start. As long there would really be money that circulates around then these kind of fights would really be happening.

Do agree on some insights or inputs that these exhibition fights are their way to make money specially now that they had already retired but still due to their reputation and popularity,
they could be still able to make millions on having these kind of fights.

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I do not really know Buakaw but since they are fighting with boxing rules the victory should be for Pacquiao, still it will be interesting to see how his boxing skills are holding up, as father time is unforgiving and it is possible there could have been a significant decrease on his abilities, however for those that love Pacquiao and everything that he represents this is a fight they cannot really afford to miss, since we do not know if this could be his last fight.

You have to check Buakaw's highlights and judge if Buakaw is an easy fight, he is not a legendary Muay Thai boxer for nothing he is ruthless in the ring and Muay Thai is very similar to boxing minus the low kick, Pacquiao will have an advantage on speed and skill but I believe when it comes to power they are equal Buakaw has over 300 fights, this is indeed a very busy fight for Pacquiao this year he has another fight coming after against Buakaw but he must show a good performance against Buakaw for the Mayweather fight becomes attractive, same with Mayweather against Gotti.

Boom! The Deadliest Knockout Machine EVER - Buakaw Banchamek

My boy Pacman has fought a lot of knockout artists, but it was his quickness that helped him win. So, I don't think Buakaw will beat Pacman because if Pacman still possesses that quickness, he could tire Buakaw out, possibly leading to an early knockout. While Buakaw is very dangerous in kickboxing, and one might think it's somewhat similar to boxing, the dynamics are different.

Maybe this will end up like Fury vs. Francis Ngannou, where Fury still won despite a close fight and getting knocked down once.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 03, 2024, 11:34:00 PM

I do not really know Buakaw but since they are fighting with boxing rules the victory should be for Pacquiao, still it will be interesting to see how his boxing skills are holding up, as father time is unforgiving and it is possible there could have been a significant decrease on his abilities, however for those that love Pacquiao and everything that he represents this is a fight they cannot really afford to miss, since we do not know if this could be his last fight.

You have to check Buakaw's highlights and judge if Buakaw is an easy fight, he is not a legendary Muay Thai boxer for nothing he is ruthless in the ring and Muay Thai is very similar to boxing minus the low kick, Pacquiao will have an advantage on speed and skill but I believe when it comes to power they are equal Buakaw has over 300 fights, this is indeed a very busy fight for Pacquiao this year he has another fight coming after against Buakaw but he must show a good performance against Buakaw for the Mayweather fight becomes attractive, same with Mayweather against Gotti.

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

What's exciting about this fight is that we know what to expect. I mean, this cannot be a boring fight since Buakaw and Pacquiao are both warriors on their respective sports. I'm sure everyone knows that Buakaw is a kickboxer, so this is like an MMA fighter fighting a real boxer, same with Floyd vs McGreggor or Jake Paul vs the MMA fighters he beat, and of course, the boxers won.

Pacman is a sure winner here, just like his last exhibition fight with DK Yoo.

I do not really know Buakaw but since they are fighting with boxing rules the victory should be for Pacquiao, still it will be interesting to see how his boxing skills are holding up, as father time is unforgiving and it is possible there could have been a significant decrease on his abilities, however for those that love Pacquiao and everything that he represents this is a fight they cannot really afford to miss, since we do not know if this could be his last fight.

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The McGregor fight didn't push and it ended up in a lawsuit for Manny and losing to Paradigm Sports Management and wins $5.1M judgment against Pacquiao.

out of curiosity, what was the reason why their fight didn't push through and why was there a lawsuit filed against Pacquaoi?

McGregor suffered a gruesome leg injury in his fight against Dustin Poirier and has been unable to compete since then. Paradigm tried to then setup a fight with Mikey Garcia but Sean Gibbons steered Pacquiao towards working with PBC and fighting Errol Spence instead. Paradigm then sued Pacquiao to recover the millions of dollars they had already paid him.

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One thing I've noticed, there's a lot of exhibition matches recently and YouTubers doing boxing matches already this year, I don't find it awful but I'm weirded out because it's a fun event to happen, I hope we get to see more of them though.

I am not familiar with other youtube boxing stats, the people I know are the Paul Brothers, Logan and Jake, they are very active in promoting their fight and we can say that it's a successful fight, especially Jake who's been active lately.

This is the trend now, they know that there's a lot of money in boxing, even a UFC fighter admitted that he made more money in boxing than in UFC.
Just like Francis Ngannou, a UFC fighter, although his fight with Fury wasn't considered as an exhibition fight but I just want to point out here how much he made in boxing compared to what he made in UFC.

As per report,

https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-boxing-news-how-much-money-did-francis-ngannou-possibly-make-against-tyson-fury/

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Ngannou has been reported to have secured a payday of $10 million for this fight.

I guess the report that he's got $10 million out of that fight might be the reason why celebrity and exhibition matches are a big thing, there's money in there so they will get their hands on it and I think that another reason why there's more money in boxing is because it's controlled by a corrupt organizations that knows how to make a profit out of all their events even though because of them the sport is slowly dying. The Paul brothers are probably the most famous of them all but you also should check out YouTubers that are boxing too, I think it's hosted by iDubbbz or was created by him with him as the main event at the inception of this event, although this will be different though as if I recall, the proceeds and profits of this match was going to be donated to a charity or something like that, I don't know the details but it's definitely a thing that was talked about in YouTube circle for awhile because a lot of YouTubers participated in the event.

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Quote from: avp2306 on January 03, 2024, 09:49:16 AM

I saw some clips while Buakaw is on training and he show there that he eat all those punches then still he is standing like a strong man. I don't know this fighter since I'm not familiar with Muay thai but for seeing that also he's record and achievements we can say that he's not easy even if they fight by boxing rules. Pacquiao gain lots of pounds since maybe due to his recent activities and busy schedule, but once this fight is approaching then for sure we can see a well fit money since this is what he actually do to make sure that he is in full condition.

This is an exhibition fight so i think the rules will be different from regular boxing rules like there are only 2 minutes per round and I could say that with that time, nobody could hurt anybody. I mean, the time is too short for them to engage. Pacman is a boxer while Buakaw is a Muay Thai fighter so it's a no-brainer that Pacman has the advantage in this exhibition fight while I also don't think bookies will cover this fight just like the last exhibition fight of Pacman.

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Quote from: cabron on December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 AM

There is no retirement for this man. But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it. Since Pacman is so rich I'm guessing the funds will be for the Gaza? He is doing this all the time so there is no surprise.

Pacman and Floyd seem to be enjoying all their exhibitions while the commenters below this article are seriously bitter about these exhibition fights.

Maybe a portion of Pacquiao's proceeds will go to the recently earthquake striken victims in his province or nearby cities that was also hit by 7+ magnitude earthquakes followed by hundreds of aftershocks. As long as promotions arrange exhibition fights I don't think they are gonna reject the deal because it is all about money and fun but aside from those things I think Manny or even his opponent is waiting for this opportunity to prove something on this match.

Well yeah it's normal to take sides but yeah just get ready for this opportunity to place a bet.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.
So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.
And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Because of how they ended up when they fully retired from boxing where they barely making enough money to pay their expenses and wants, they choose to take advantage of eery current opportunity because the payment and huge opportunity to make huge money are still there and Manny is not a type of a person to fight these guys who are not boxers but because of money, he will going to do it and the same for Mayweather all these times when he fought those YouTubers and other MMA celebrities because the payment is hard to decline.

He lost a lot of money for last election so its expected that he will chase more fight just to earn back those losses he encounter from last year. He take advantage his fame which is good since they can still earn a lot of money from exhibition fights. I just wondering if they perform like a real professional match since he's opponent(Buakaw) is really a strong man and money can't play cool on him since he have power and solid physique that's why its dangerous for him if he's to over confident on this match. Next lets say Mayweather will be their big target and after that its up for him to decide if he pursue his want to fight another celebrities since nothing wrong with this since its like grabbing an opportunity to earn while he's still capable to do it.

We can only base on the rules though, and in this case, it's boxing so Pacman has the advantage. And looking at the physical body of Pacquiao, obviously he has gain some pounds already and not that like 10% body or less when we see him fight.

But I think he can still box as he has been into this sports since 16 years old. So he just need to train hard again and for sure those reflexes and power will come back to him as it is God given. I do agree that Mayweather will be the biggest target of Pacman late next year.

I saw some clips while Buakaw is on training and he show there that he eat all those punches then still he is standing like a strong man. I don't know this fighter since I'm not familiar with Muay thai but for seeing that also he's record and achievements we can say that he's not easy even if they fight by boxing rules. Pacquiao gain lots of pounds since maybe due to his recent activities and busy schedule, but once this fight is approaching then for sure we can see a well fit money since this is what he actually do to make sure that he is in full condition.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.
So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.
And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Because of how they ended up when they fully retired from boxing where they barely making enough money to pay their expenses and wants, they choose to take advantage of eery current opportunity because the payment and huge opportunity to make huge money are still there and Manny is not a type of a person to fight these guys who are not boxers but because of money, he will going to do it and the same for Mayweather all these times when he fought those YouTubers and other MMA celebrities because the payment is hard to decline.

He lost a lot of money for last election so its expected that he will chase more fight just to earn back those losses he encounter from last year. He take advantage his fame which is good since they can still earn a lot of money from exhibition fights. I just wondering if they perform like a real professional match since he's opponent(Buakaw) is really a strong man and money can't play cool on him since he have power and solid physique that's why its dangerous for him if he's to over confident on this match. Next lets say Mayweather will be their big target and after that its up for him to decide if he pursue his want to fight another celebrities since nothing wrong with this since its like grabbing an opportunity to earn while he's still capable to do it.

We do know that when it comes to exhibition fights then performance or fight wouldnt really be serious. We do even see cross sports matches but it do really ends up on boxing rules and terms on which it is understandable that those fighters who are really that known on such field would really be having the advantage. Even these fellas are already retired but still we can really expect something from them in terms of fight performance.It might not be the same on their prime but at least seeing them again on the ring is something that interesting. Speaking about political matters then it is really that something personal.
Its none of our business if he had spent out tons of money on that running for President. There's no solid proof that they dont have already the money and thats why they have decided to take some exhibition fights
just for them to have that at least some patch up.

Pacquiao does have that 2 fights for this year on which if this one is really that been hyped up then expect that money would flow through. Its none of our business on how much they do earn
on it. If you do hate up for them on making money then you could always opt not to see or watch their fight. You are not a loss. Cheesy

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.
So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.
And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Because of how they ended up when they fully retired from boxing where they barely making enough money to pay their expenses and wants, they choose to take advantage of eery current opportunity because the payment and huge opportunity to make huge money are still there and Manny is not a type of a person to fight these guys who are not boxers but because of money, he will going to do it and the same for Mayweather all these times when he fought those YouTubers and other MMA celebrities because the payment is hard to decline.

He lost a lot of money for last election so its expected that he will chase more fight just to earn back those losses he encounter from last year. He take advantage his fame which is good since they can still earn a lot of money from exhibition fights. I just wondering if they perform like a real professional match since he's opponent(Buakaw) is really a strong man and money can't play cool on him since he have power and solid physique that's why its dangerous for him if he's to over confident on this match. Next lets say Mayweather will be their big target and after that its up for him to decide if he pursue his want to fight another celebrities since nothing wrong with this since its like grabbing an opportunity to earn while he's still capable to do it.

We can only base on the rules though, and in this case, it's boxing so Pacman has the advantage. And looking at the physical body of Pacquiao, obviously he has gain some pounds already and not that like 10% body or less when we see him fight.

But I think he can still box as he has been into this sports since 16 years old. So he just need to train hard again and for sure those reflexes and power will come back to him as it is God given. I do agree that Mayweather will be the biggest target of Pacman late next year.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.
So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.
And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Because of how they ended up when they fully retired from boxing where they barely making enough money to pay their expenses and wants, they choose to take advantage of eery current opportunity because the payment and huge opportunity to make huge money are still there and Manny is not a type of a person to fight these guys who are not boxers but because of money, he will going to do it and the same for Mayweather all these times when he fought those YouTubers and other MMA celebrities because the payment is hard to decline.

He lost a lot of money for last election so its expected that he will chase more fight just to earn back those losses he encounter from last year. He take advantage his fame which is good since they can still earn a lot of money from exhibition fights. I just wondering if they perform like a real professional match since he's opponent(Buakaw) is really a strong man and money can't play cool on him since he have power and solid physique that's why its dangerous for him if he's to over confident on this match. Next lets say Mayweather will be their big target and after that its up for him to decide if he pursue his want to fight another celebrities since nothing wrong with this since its like grabbing an opportunity to earn while he's still capable to do it.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.

Yeah, that's most likely it is. He can be back to his passion and sport anytime he wishes despite that he's no longer in the competitive scene, still there are a lot of people demanding him to see back in the ring whether it's just all for a show or an exhibition match. What matters is that he's still there and people will be flocking to his matches no matter what happens. That seems to be the most important matter now and he's also getting paid with the sum that he's demanding and that's why he's still on it despite that his age is no longer getting younger.

Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.

Thanks, it's just so happen that Buakaw and Pacquiao's match has been announced and there goes the match with Floyd. And usually that the fight will be probably on the next near to Christmas day so that there will be a lot of money that's going to flow on that match. They can handle it and I think that it's a hot match and if Pacquiao wins, a lot of fans are going to be satisfied with that and it doesn't matter even it's not a titled match.

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And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Yeah, he won't be called Money if he's not for it. And the same goes for Manny, money. Cheesy

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 05:39:30 AM

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.
So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.
And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

Because of how they ended up when they fully retired from boxing where they barely making enough money to pay their expenses and wants, they choose to take advantage of eery current opportunity because the payment and huge opportunity to make huge money are still there and Manny is not a type of a person to fight these guys who are not boxers but because of money, he will going to do it and the same for Mayweather all these times when he fought those YouTubers and other MMA celebrities because the payment is hard to decline.

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I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.

I think that there's also this scenario in the same sport, a UFC fighter and boxer in a boxing ring. But I have forgotten on who were the fighters are. On this match with Buakaw and Pacquiao, it's certainly an advantage for Pacquiao but it's all about the money that both of them are going to make and that's why this match is anticipated.

Now, I am confused. Is there already a date for the match of Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when these two announcements came out at the same time? So for first this year of 2024, we're going to see Manny Pacquiao on the ring twice. I guess that there's really no retirement for him and he just can't get out of his passion and even they're just going to be delegations or exhibition matches, he's willing to go in for it.

Maybe Manny just wanted to be active in 2024, after all, boxing did great for him, and that's why he still prefer to fight even after his retirement. And with the reports of how much money he can earn fighting Buakaw, I wouldn't be surprised that him and Floyd are going to fight late this year for one of the biggest fight.

So don't be confused, Pacquiao s Buakaw first in April and then I reckon that in the last quarter of this year, Manny vs Floyd.

And you can also say that to Mayweather as well, no retirement for him, just continue to box and make money.

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I think that there's also this scenario in the same sport, a UFC fighter and boxer in a boxing ring. But I have forgotten on who were the fighters are. On this match with Buakaw and Pacquiao, it's certainly an advantage for Pacquiao but it's all about the money that both of them are going to make and that's why this match is anticipated.

Yes, and that's why MMA is really harder as compare to boxing, and every exhibition match that involves a MMA fighter is being held in boxing rules, not the other way around as boxers have the disadvantage but MMA fighters knows how to strike.

That's for sure that the boxers don't have an advantage if the match is going to happen on an MMA format but I don't think that we'll see boxers do that exhibition. What we're mostly going to see are just going to be MMA fighters going inside a boxing ring. Well, these days it's no longer about the passion for the sport, as long as there's clout then it means that there's also the money. I guess that with the big names on every sport, if they need some quick pay check. This is what they're going to do and even in amateur fighters, they'll fight an exhibition as long as the price is right.

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Now, I am confused. Is there already a date for the match of Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when these two announcements came out at the same time? So for first this year of 2024, we're going to see Manny Pacquiao on the ring twice. I guess that there's really no retirement for him and he just can't get out of his passion and even they're just going to be delegations or exhibition matches, he's willing to go in for it.

There is no date for Manny vs Floyd, for now it's speculation as they have their respective fights to complete. Obviously Manny hear against the Thai legend, and then Floyd in February for a rematch against Gotti Jr, their first fight ended in a melee.

It's not a speculation because the announcement for his fight against Floyd is Pacquiao himself. But I guess let it happen soon and let Manny go against first with Buakaw. It's just so happen that with a single announcement he did, there's already a huge noise that as long as his name is involved with the match, the people will also go there so there's still a huge market for this living legend and sure that every fan of his is surely proud of him. So, if their matches are set to come this 1st-2nd quarter of 2024 then we may expect the match to happen nearly the end of the year I guess.

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Quote from: acroman08 on January 02, 2024, 05:27:34 PM

I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.

Quote from: Baofeng on December 29, 2023, 05:34:44 AM

Obviously though this is just a exhibition match Grin

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has there been a mention of how much the fighters will get in this fight?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

I saw this news a few days ago and wasn’t sure if it was credible. There have been so many rumored Pacquiao fights that never really materialized like the ones against McGregor and Ryan Garcia.

The McGregor fight didn't push and it ended up in a lawsuit for Manny and losing to Paradigm Sports Management and wins $5.1M judgment against Pacquiao.

out of curiosity, what was the reason why their fight didn't push through and why was there a lawsuit filed against Pacquaoi?

As for the money involved here:

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Promotor Vinij Lertratanachai revealed that the $25million exhibition will be six rounds of boxing, each round being three minutes, with two minute breaks in-between. The fighters will compete at 154lbs (70kg), which is the equivalent of super welterweight in boxing, and junior middleweight in Muay Thai.

https://www.si.com/fannation/mma/news/manny-pacquiao-to-fight-thai-boxing-legend-in-25m-exhibition

I thought it's Thai Baht, but the report says USD so that is huge already. But we are not sure about the split itself, but I think Pacquaio as the A-side of this fight will get the biggest split here. And it's interesting how Vinij Lertratanachai the CEO of Fresh Air Festival is willing to shred that huge amount just to see this 2 legends in the ring.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 02, 2024, 05:40:17 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on January 02, 2024, 05:27:34 PM

I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.

I think that there's also this scenario in the same sport, a UFC fighter and boxer in a boxing ring. But I have forgotten on who were the fighters are. On this match with Buakaw and Pacquiao, it's certainly an advantage for Pacquiao but it's all about the money that both of them are going to make and that's why this match is anticipated.

Yes, and that's why MMA is really harder as compare to boxing, and every exhibition match that involves a MMA fighter is being held in boxing rules, not the other way around as boxers have the disadvantage but MMA fighters knows how to strike.

Quote from: passwordnow on January 02, 2024, 05:40:17 PM

Now, I am confused. Is there already a date for the match of Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when these two announcements came out at the same time? So for first this year of 2024, we're going to see Manny Pacquiao on the ring twice. I guess that there's really no retirement for him and he just can't get out of his passion and even they're just going to be delegations or exhibition matches, he's willing to go in for it.

There is no date for Manny vs Floyd, for now it's speculation as they have their respective fights to complete. Obviously Manny hear against the Thai legend, and then Floyd in February for a rematch against Gotti Jr, their first fight ended in a melee.

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Quote from: acroman08 on January 02, 2024, 05:27:34 PM

I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.

I think that there's also this scenario in the same sport, a UFC fighter and boxer in a boxing ring. But I have forgotten on who were the fighters are. On this match with Buakaw and Pacquiao, it's certainly an advantage for Pacquiao but it's all about the money that both of them are going to make and that's why this match is anticipated.

Now, I am confused. Is there already a date for the match of Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when these two announcements came out at the same time? So for first this year of 2024, we're going to see Manny Pacquiao on the ring twice. I guess that there's really no retirement for him and he just can't get out of his passion and even they're just going to be delegations or exhibition matches, he's willing to go in for it.

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I know Buakaw can take a hit because of being a Muay Thai fighter but I wonder how he will fare in a boxing match, as far as I know, this is his first time fighting in a boxing match(right?), he will be at a disadvantage against Pacquiao, but I hope they can give us a good show. both of these fighters are legendary in their sport.

Quote from: Baofeng on December 29, 2023, 05:34:44 AM

Obviously though this is just a exhibition match Grin

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has there been a mention of how much the fighters will get in this fight?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

I saw this news a few days ago and wasn’t sure if it was credible. There have been so many rumored Pacquiao fights that never really materialized like the ones against McGregor and Ryan Garcia.

The McGregor fight didn't push and it ended up in a lawsuit for Manny and losing to Paradigm Sports Management and wins $5.1M judgment against Pacquiao.

out of curiosity, what was the reason why their fight didn't push through and why was there a lawsuit filed against Pacquaoi?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

I saw this news a few days ago and wasn’t sure if it was credible. There have been so many rumored Pacquiao fights that never really materialized like the ones against McGregor and Ryan Garcia.

The McGregor fight didn't push and it ended up in a lawsuit for Manny and losing to Paradigm Sports Management and wins $5.1M judgment against Pacquiao.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

If it is legitimate then it should be an interesting bout. Buakaw is not some random youtuber or some undersized guy going up in weight. He is a recently active fighter with some experience in bare knuckle boxing. Although Pacquiao should be the favorite, I believe Buakaw could still be somewhat competitive against him.

With exhibition matches we don’t really know if it is a scripted result or not so there might not be many casinos taking bets on this fight.

I think it's legitimate, we can't compare this to McGregor as we haven't seen any promotion during that fight. But here, Manny and Buakaw did go the public already and it was officially announced, so it's a go.

For sure both still have the fire in their belly and be competitive plus the motivation to get another great paycheck, specially for Buakaw. Grin

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 02, 2024, 06:03:59 AM

There are a lot of what if in a athlete, Floyd is different that's why he hasn't lost but you can't say that to other fighters as well?

And maybe you can say that to other sports athlete let's say a NBA player who also earn a lot but after retiring, all their money is gone?

Honestly we don't know their real financial status, but if they are smart enough to use their popularity, they'll continue making money. Some celebrities are living a lavish life but they are making a lot of money as well, they continue to work to sustain their way of living, that's their life.

Here, I guess let's just focus on the upcoming fight, what I'm sure is this fight gonna give both fighters good paycheck, and people are gonna watch it because both are very popular, especially Manny who is a legend in boxing.

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Is Pacquiao running out of money now? Just thinking about that but the passion will remain as he's a fighter, he'll always be.

These exhibition matches are going to be quick payment for him and whoever is going to agree fighting him. Well, at least we're still able to watch him fight before he fully retires and out of these fights.

I guess both fighters will just don't take it as if it's an exhibition match.

Well there were rumors that when he ran for President of the Philippines, he depleted his money and bank account. But I doubt it though, he has established himself and as far as I know he has a lot of houses still in the US. So that alone shows that he still has a lot of money.

But in this case, I mean why not? if he can still bankroll from his name then he should do it. And I think he learn this from Floyd Mayweather himself. As Floyd is making millions doing exhibition matches since he retired and people still wanting to see him in the ring.

Rumors are baseless, he may run the Presidency but he didn't deplete all his money because he has a lot of businesses.
As per report, in 2023 his net worth is a whooping $220 million. ( so stop that speculation or rumors)
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

Let us not assume that because a fighter who gain popularity in his pro, retired, and then try to go with exhibition fights are struggling with money? Maybe in the past it's reasonable, but now it's not anymore because it has been the trend, Mayweather goes into this exhibition fights too, is he struggling?

And that's why it is called rumor isn't? Or you can even call this fake news as we all know that in politics, specially in Philippines, opposing political parties will do everything to destroys someone images and Pacquiao is not immune to it.

There are a lot of what if in a athlete, Floyd is different that's why he hasn't lost but you can't say that to other fighters as well?

And maybe you can say that to other sports athlete let's say a NBA player who also earn a lot but after retiring, all their money is gone?

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Rumors are baseless, he may run the Presidency but he didn't deplete all his money because he has a lot of businesses.
As per report, in 2023 his net worth is a whooping $220 million. ( so stop that speculation or rumors)
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

Let us not assume that because a fighter who gain popularity in his pro, retired, and then try to go with exhibition fights are struggling with money? Maybe in the past it's reasonable, but now it's not anymore because it has been the trend, Mayweather goes into this exhibition fights too, is he struggling?

Pacquiao is my countryman and there's no truth to rumors that he is struggling with money Pacquiao knows how to handle his money he has billionaire friends who advise him on how to take care of money and how to do diversification, Manny just doesn't like inactivity all his life he is in action he started boxing at a very young age, and it's hard to take the love of boxing out of his system.
He is running his boxing promotion the MP Promotion and co-founded a Basketball league https://www.mpbl.com.ph/about/ he still owns a lot of properties and is still one of the richest people in the Philippines.

That's the truth, he owns a lot of property, and as long as we didn't see him struggling financially, we can make a speculation that he is struggling. His fight with Buakaw is just his way in enjoying his passion and taking advantage on his popularity. I'm sure if we were in the shoes of Pacman, we would do the same because this is what we called an "easy money", and however he spend it, that's up to him.

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Quote from: CODE200 on December 31, 2023, 09:04:37 AM

One thing I've noticed, there's a lot of exhibition matches recently and YouTubers doing boxing matches already this year, I don't find it awful but I'm weirded out because it's a fun event to happen, I hope we get to see more of them though.

I am not familiar with other youtube boxing stats, the people I know are the Paul Brothers, Logan and Jake, they are very active in promoting their fight and we can say that it's a successful fight, especially Jake who's been active lately.

This is the trend now, they know that there's a lot of money in boxing, even a UFC fighter admitted that he made more money in boxing than in UFC.
Just like Francis Ngannou, a UFC fighter, although his fight with Fury wasn't considered as an exhibition fight but I just want to point out here how much he made in boxing compared to what he made in UFC.

As per report,

https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-boxing-news-how-much-money-did-francis-ngannou-possibly-make-against-tyson-fury/

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Ngannou has been reported to have secured a payday of $10 million for this fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 30, 2023, 10:37:43 AM

So this is an exhibition fight I hope both legends will not hurt each other because both fighters are still in their top condition especially Manny Pacquiao but I never estimated Buakaw is a legend in his league, he was very dangerous during his time.
You cannot stop these two legends from their respective fields when fighters retire they usually become inactive physically, they just manage new boxers or create a promotion, so with these two fighters, we will see if they are still in top form.
The format is very different and is meant to protect both fighters hopefully it is a friendly match I'm rooting for Pacquiao to win this match, I have seen him in his practice and he is still in top form.

Of course it is an exhibition fight and even if you do wish that I'm sure that they'll probably try their best to not hurt each other but I'm sure they're both a showman so they'll take this match seriously and put some power in their punches. I don't know about top form though, that's a tall order for their age so don't expect too much from them, they're kind of like an old tigers; they still got the bite but they're not that spry or deadly anymore.

One thing I've noticed, there's a lot of exhibition matches recently and YouTubers doing boxing matches already this year, I don't find it awful but I'm weirded out because it's a fun event to happen, I hope we get to see more of them though.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2023, 09:48:15 PM

Rumors are baseless, he may run the Presidency but he didn't deplete all his money because he has a lot of businesses.
As per report, in 2023 his net worth is a whooping $220 million. ( so stop that speculation or rumors)
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

Let us not assume that because a fighter who gain popularity in his pro, retired, and then try to go with exhibition fights are struggling with money? Maybe in the past it's reasonable, but now it's not anymore because it has been the trend, Mayweather goes into this exhibition fights too, is he struggling?

Pacquiao is my countryman and there's no truth to rumors that he is struggling with money Pacquiao knows how to handle his money he has billionaire friends who advise him on how to take care of money and how to do diversification, Manny just doesn't like inactivity all his life he is in action he started boxing at a very young age, and it's hard to take the love of boxing out of his system.
He is running his boxing promotion the MP Promotion and co-founded a Basketball league https://www.mpbl.com.ph/about/ he still owns a lot of properties and is still one of the richest people in the Philippines.

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Quote from: boyptc on December 30, 2023, 06:57:08 AM

Is Pacquiao running out of money now? Just thinking about that but the passion will remain as he's a fighter, he'll always be.

These exhibition matches are going to be quick payment for him and whoever is going to agree fighting him. Well, at least we're still able to watch him fight before he fully retires and out of these fights.

I guess both fighters will just don't take it as if it's an exhibition match.

Well there were rumors that when he ran for President of the Philippines, he depleted his money and bank account. But I doubt it though, he has established himself and as far as I know he has a lot of houses still in the US. So that alone shows that he still has a lot of money.

But in this case, I mean why not? if he can still bankroll from his name then he should do it. And I think he learn this from Floyd Mayweather himself. As Floyd is making millions doing exhibition matches since he retired and people still wanting to see him in the ring.

Rumors are baseless, he may run the Presidency but he didn't deplete all his money because he has a lot of businesses.
As per report, in 2023 his net worth is a whooping $220 million. ( so stop that speculation or rumors)
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

Let us not assume that because a fighter who gain popularity in his pro, retired, and then try to go with exhibition fights are struggling with money? Maybe in the past it's reasonable, but now it's not anymore because it has been the trend, Mayweather goes into this exhibition fights too, is he struggling?

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Quote from: boyptc on December 30, 2023, 06:57:08 AM

Is Pacquiao running out of money now? Just thinking about that but the passion will remain as he's a fighter, he'll always be.

These exhibition matches are going to be quick payment for him and whoever is going to agree fighting him. Well, at least we're still able to watch him fight before he fully retires and out of these fights.

I guess both fighters will just don't take it as if it's an exhibition match.

Well there were rumors that when he ran for President of the Philippines, he depleted his money and bank account. But I doubt it though, he has established himself and as far as I know he has a lot of houses still in the US. So that alone shows that he still has a lot of money.

But in this case, I mean why not? if he can still bankroll from his name then he should do it. And I think he learn this from Floyd Mayweather himself. As Floyd is making millions doing exhibition matches since he retired and people still wanting to see him in the ring.

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Quote from: cabron on December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 AM

There is no retirement for this man. But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it. Since Pacman is so rich I'm guessing the funds will be for the Gaza? He is doing this all the time so there is no surprise.

Pacman and Floyd seem to be enjoying all their exhibitions while the commenters below this article are seriously bitter about these exhibition fights.

That's what I thought too, given that he's gone from the ring for a long time now, it seems that he's not ever going back but it seems that Pacquiao's calling is something that he's not going to ignore and I think that as long as he can box, he would definitely be someone that's going to do so. I guess the reason why exhibition fights aren't that fun for them is because they think that it's a disrespect to the legendary status of some of the old fighters that's going for these matches so they feel that their ego gets damaged so they end up here. I think the hate on Floyd's justifiable, didn't he scammed Logan Paul out his money from their exhibition match?

Knowing Buakaw's background, I don't think that he's got a good footing against Pacquiao given that he's a traditional Muay Thai fighter meaning that he's likely deadly at kicks, knees and elbows so it's definitely a Pacquiao win for me but if the tables are turned and it's MMA then Pacquiao's gonna eat dust against Buakaw.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 30, 2023, 10:37:43 AM

So this is an exhibition fight I hope both legends will not hurt each other because both fighters are still in their top condition especially Manny Pacquiao but I never estimated Buakaw is a legend in his league, he was very dangerous during his time.
You cannot stop these two legends from their respective fields when fighters retire they usually become inactive physically, they just manage new boxers or create a promotion, so with these two fighters, we will see if they are still in top form.
The format is very different and is meant to protect both fighters hopefully it is a friendly match I'm rooting for Pacquiao to win this match, I have seen him in his practice and he is still in top form.

When it comes to full power usage then in an exhibition fight then it wont really be shocking that they would really be making those adjustments on which it wasnt called exhibition match in the first place if they are really that trying to finish out the fight immediately. We've seen exhibition matches already on which making those kind of cross sport on which we know on whose really gonna be having the edge.
I was aware about Buakaw and heard off about his name but getting interested in Muay Thai then this is something my least favorite. Now i did make out some research and trying out to
see on what are those achievements made and surprisingly about on how many fans does Buakaw does haev.

It would really be interesting to see these matches but since this would really be playing out on boxing rules and it wont really be shocking that despite of being that a retired
boxer but still he would really be still have the guns on taking down an opponent but since this is an exhibition fight then it wont really matter much . What matter most is
on how they could bring out the excitement and thrill into those boxing or muay thai fans out of the world.

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After his last professional fight against Ugas, I consider this a very tough fight for Manny, Buakaw is not a cherry-picked fight he is a legendary Muay Thai with strong followers many have taken Muay Thai discipline because of Buakaw and he elevated this sport to a greater height.
Manny's last exhibition fight against YouTuber DK Yoo is forgettable as the Youtuber did not offer resistance but this match-up is very different and I'm sure many fight fans will be interested to watch this fight as two legendaries in their fields will be in the ring.
This is going to be more interesting than watching Youtubers fights.

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So this is an exhibition fight I hope both legends will not hurt each other because both fighters are still in their top condition especially Manny Pacquiao but I never estimated Buakaw is a legend in his league, he was very dangerous during his time.
You cannot stop these two legends from their respective fields when fighters retire they usually become inactive physically, they just manage new boxers or create a promotion, so with these two fighters, we will see if they are still in top form.
The format is very different and is meant to protect both fighters hopefully it is a friendly match I'm rooting for Pacquiao to win this match, I have seen him in his practice and he is still in top form.

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Quote from: cengsuwuei on December 30, 2023, 06:59:52 AM

exhibition fight, Because of different athletes, who paquio is a boxing athlete, while his opponent Buakaw is a muangthay boxing athlete, free boxing same kick boxing, this means traditional Thai boxing.
just for entertainment not for the championship belt.

Not just for entertainment but also for the money, imagine a retired boxing legend stepping into the ring again and fight another fighter.

Too early to say but for sure, they will in favor Manny here as he is a legend and getting him is already a good market for them.

Still wondering why they retire in the first place if they will still accept an exhibition match like this.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

I took a short glimpse at Buakaw's record and he had 242 Wins (73 (T)KO's), 24 Losses, 14 Draws, 2 No Contest [1] in Kickboxing / Muay Thai Record. I can say that is a lot of fight! But the problem is that, even with that lots of fight, Buakaw is somehow at a disadvantage here because he is limited to his punches and can not take advantage of his skills in Muay Thai. This is like Buakaw is fighting having his feet tied. The only advantage here is the age where Buakaw is 4 years younger if I am mistaken than Pacquiao who is at the age of 45.

Regardless of the matchmaking, I think this is another exciting exhibition match because we will be seeing two best fighters in each country.

Quote from: boyptc on December 30, 2023, 06:57:08 AM

Is Pacquiao running out of money now? Just thinking about that but the passion will remain as he's a fighter, he'll always be.

These exhibition matches are going to be quick payment for him and whoever is going to agree fighting him. Well, at least we're still able to watch him fight before he fully retires and out of these fights.

I guess both fighters will just don't take it as if it's an exhibition match.

I do not think that Manny is running out of money, I think it is more of a passion to fight in the ring and at the same time bring entertainment to the people while earning money to donate to charity. This is like hitting multiple birds in one stone.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buakaw_Banchamek

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Buakaw is one of the best muai thai fighters, although in the recent years I'd say that Rodtang became more popular, but about 15 years ago Buakaw was the most popular guy in this sport.
Basically every year he was in the top 3 of world K1 roster.
The only problem I see in this fight is that we'll have a muai thai fighter vs a boxer in a boxing match, so Manny is going to have the upper hand. Buakaw strength was mainly in his legs and he was also allowed to use elbows.

Not gonna lie that this favors for Manny considering his years as a pro in this sport was likely engraved in his skills. Moreover, if they are fighting for a cause then that's more than enough I guess because those who will benefit from this event was surely the winner. I just hope they'll collect more money for this and give it to those who needs it.

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exhibition fight, Because of different athletes, who paquio is a boxing athlete, while his opponent Buakaw is a muangthay boxing athlete, free boxing same kick boxing, this means traditional Thai boxing.
just for entertainment not for the championship belt.

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Is Pacquiao running out of money now? Just thinking about that but the passion will remain as he's a fighter, he'll always be.

These exhibition matches are going to be quick payment for him and whoever is going to agree fighting him. Well, at least we're still able to watch him fight before he fully retires and out of these fights.

I guess both fighters will just don't take it as if it's an exhibition match.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 29, 2023, 11:03:55 AM

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The people who live in the Thailand may have biggest opinion on the Pramuk because of the fighting style in the game.He made many K.O against many popular boxer in his history of boxing.So this match was allow the Pramuk to make the biggest opinion in the match against Pacquiao.

The statement from the Pacquiao on the Pramuk was the unforgettable one by the Thailand people.Because the style of the game make the opponent to praise before the match.Buakaw punches will not be forgotten by any boxers in the boxing community.The odds for the Buakaw in this game compared to Pacquiao.

The opinion is that Buakaw is an undefeated fighter, even though he has had several fight results that were not suitable, namely draws, but looking at his mentality and also how he fights shows that Buakaw is monster that Thailand has.
In fact, I really want to see Buakaw appear again in an MMA event because I saw how ferocious Buakaw was in attacking his opponent and how strong he was to withstand punches and kicks from his opponent.
Buakaw remains an idol for everyone without exception, his name has spread throughout the world as one of the best Muay Thai fighting legends of all time.

Yes, in his fight against Pacquiao it was very clear that Buakaw had very big chance of winning and of course what Pacquiao said was proof that Buakaw was indeed quite scary fighter even in traditional boxing.

I think this is fight that can restore Buakaw enthusiasm to remain champion in boxing and it is very likely that he will also start to return to being fighter who is on the alert, especially returning to the ring after his fight against Pacquiao.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 29, 2023, 05:40:33 PM

Can't believe it's real and legit. Cheesy

These legends know how to take advantage of their names even after retirement. Technically speaking, Pacquiao still has the shape like he's not a retired boxer. Even if we put Pacquiao in an official fight the same within his comfort weight class, he can still probably defeat other boxers within that division.

Does anyone here betting on an exhibition match? They are just for entertainment right? Where's the thrill of betting there?

Yeah, basically that it, if Floyd and other retired boxer and MMA fighters can fight after retirement, then this two is not a exception. They are legend, both are still in their best shape of their lives despite out of their sports for many years.

This is exhibition matches, but I do not think that it will be a setup like other fight. Even in Manny's last fight, he really took it seriously to train. So maybe there will be odds out there and gamblers are still going to bet on it as it involves two legend in their own rights.

Manny's biggest paycheck in exhibition fight is just waiting for him, these two possible fights of Manny would bring him at least more than $100 million, just my wild guess though.

Pacman vs McGregor then afterwards, Pacman vs Mayweather 2.

I don't know what fights that are line up for him next year but hopefully at least one of these two possible big fight will happen.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 30, 2023, 04:42:52 AM

- Buacaw Banchamek will take advantage of that to pull his name in the world of boxing because Manny Paquiao is a well-known person. Win or lose, this Banchamek has something for you. Same with Pacquiao.

If I'm not mistaken, Buakaw is already retired and I don't think he has intentions to pull his name in the world of boxing. Just is just pure exhibition match but both of them are going the get a fat check that's for sure.

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 30, 2023, 04:42:52 AM

Since this is just an exhibition, the favor may go to Pacquiao, for sure. Remember his last exhibition match before? Was it against a Korean? He just played with his opponent there, so it's probably the same in his fight with Buacaw, for sure.

Yes it was against a South Korean Youtuber name DK Yoo, and won in the judges scorecard. He dominated the fight and he could still knockout DK, but the didn't and settled of a the judges with a unanimous decision.

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- Buacaw Banchamek will take advantage of that to pull his name in the world of boxing because Manny Paquiao is a well-known person. Win or lose, this Banchamek has something for you. Same with Pacquiao.

Since this is just an exhibition, the favor may go to Pacquiao, for sure. Remember his last exhibition match before? Was it against a Korean? He just played with his opponent there, so it's probably the same in his fight with Buacaw, for sure.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 29, 2023, 05:40:33 PM

Can't believe it's real and legit. Cheesy

These legends know how to take advantage of their names even after retirement. Technically speaking, Pacquiao still has the shape like he's not a retired boxer. Even if we put Pacquiao in an official fight the same within his comfort weight class, he can still probably defeat other boxers within that division.

Does anyone here betting on an exhibition match? They are just for entertainment right? Where's the thrill of betting there?

Yeah, basically that it, if Floyd and other retired boxer and MMA fighters can fight after retirement, then this two is not a exception. They are legend, both are still in their best shape of their lives despite out of their sports for many years.

This is exhibition matches, but I do not think that it will be a setup like other fight. Even in Manny's last fight, he really took it seriously to train. So maybe there will be odds out there and gamblers are still going to bet on it as it involves two legend in their own rights.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

I saw this news a few days ago and wasn’t sure if it was credible. There have been so many rumored Pacquiao fights that never really materialized like the ones against McGregor and Ryan Garcia.

I knew about the McGregor fight, but not with Ryan Garcia.

In fact, Pacman was ordered to pay $5 million to Paradigm Sports Management, this was on the possible fight between him and McGregor but didn't happen.

You can read the full story here : https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/pacquiao-loses-case-united-states-firm-ordered-pay-millions/

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 30, 2023, 03:51:17 AM

If it is legitimate then it should be an interesting bout. Buakaw is not some random youtuber or some undersized guy going up in weight. He is a recently active fighter with some experience in bare knuckle boxing. Although Pacquiao should be the favorite, I believe Buakaw could still be somewhat competitive against him.

With exhibition matches we don’t really know if it is a scripted result or not so there might not be many casinos taking bets on this fight.

This was already confirmed, so I believe it's legitimate. Both fighters will be fighting in Bangkok, Thailand.

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I saw this news a few days ago and wasn’t sure if it was credible. There have been so many rumored Pacquiao fights that never really materialized like the ones against McGregor and Ryan Garcia.

If it is legitimate then it should be an interesting bout. Buakaw is not some random youtuber or some undersized guy going up in weight. He is a recently active fighter with some experience in bare knuckle boxing. Although Pacquiao should be the favorite, I believe Buakaw could still be somewhat competitive against him.

With exhibition matches we don’t really know if it is a scripted result or not so there might not be many casinos taking bets on this fight.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 29, 2023, 11:03:55 AM

Great, I missed the news about the fight of Muay Thai legend who has previously been absent from fighting and he is favorite for everyone who loves Muay Thai free fighting.
Buakaw Por. Pramuk is everyone favorite fighter, especially the Thai people, he is living legend for the art of the sport of Muay Thai in Thailand.

Manny Pacquiao himself stated that he would be very careful with Buakaw fighting style, even though this fight was held as traditional boxing, Buakaw himself has very strong punches.
If the fight is free fight, perhaps Pacquiao will suffer defeat more quickly because he won't be able to keep up with how Buakaw fights.

I know in this fight of course Buakaw is the favorite and I will see what odds I can get from betting Buakaw.

The people who live in the Thailand may have biggest opinion on the Pramuk because of the fighting style in the game.He made many K.O against many popular boxer in his history of boxing.So this match was allow the Pramuk to make the biggest opinion in the match against Pacquiao.

The statement from the Pacquiao on the Pramuk was the unforgettable one by the Thailand people.Because the style of the game make the opponent to praise before the match.Buakaw punches will not be forgotten by any boxers in the boxing community.The odds for the Buakaw in this game compared to Pacquiao.

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These legends know how to take advantage of their names even after retirement. Technically speaking, Pacquiao still has the shape like he's not a retired boxer. Even if we put Pacquiao in an official fight the same within his comfort weight class, he can still probably defeat other boxers within that division.

Does anyone here betting on an exhibition match? They are just for entertainment right? Where's the thrill of betting there?

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Dont know whose Buakaw?
He's Muay Thai Juggernaut

Actually have seen this news and article.
Clash of the Titans: Manny Pacquiao to Face Muay Thai Juggernaut Buakaw in 2024: Fans Go Berserk
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-clash-of-the-titans-manny-pacquiao-to-face-muay-thai-juggernaut-buakaw-in-2024-fans-go-berserk/

So a Boxing champion against a Muay Thai champion. Then it is really that interesting but
since this is really that playing on Boxing rules then its clear on whose gonna win but of course
people wont care considering that seeing both fights inside the ring what do really interest us.

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Oh ok good, and if my memory serves me right, this is Manny's second in this exhibition matches, the first one is against a South Korean Youtuber. Buakaw is legendary as well and again, I think he has a recent fight with another great Kickboxer and he lost that fight.

But this time, this is just a exhibition match for him and against another legend in another sports discipline. And if this is going to be a boxing match then Manny should win, although Buakaw's experience as a striker could help him in his fight. But we all know how Manny's power is and he could still punch even if he is semi-retired and still has that power in his left.

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Quote from: cabron on December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 AM

There is no retirement for this man. But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it. Since Pacman is so rich I'm guessing the funds will be for the Gaza? He is doing this all the time so there is no surprise.

Pacman and Floyd seem to be enjoying all their exhibitions while the commenters below this article are seriously bitter about these exhibition fights.

I wouldn't blame them. Mixed matches are a cash grab. Sure, they allow old fighter s to show off and the matches take place before the public demands it, but it's all about their names bringing in cash to the promotors. There's no real skill in these fights, like when Mayweather fought McGregor. We all knew Mayweather was going to win because he was unbeaten and the match was held according to boxing rules, so he had double advantage over his opponent and this is another similar fight, where they take 2 well known names and put them against each other to sell tickets and make money. Buakaw is selling off in my opinion. Sacrificing his name and record to get some more money since he's retired anyway and has no way of earning big money.

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Pacquiao has the advantage.
We saw this for a couple of times; Floyd vs Conor and Logan. Advantage will always be with the 'nature'. Fighters could equate and create mismatch but only for a few rounds. Boxers are simply advantageous of their resistance and stamina over fighters outside Boxing especially sports which does not cover as long as with a boxing match. The usual scenario is that non-boxers lose their stamina in a few rounds so same thing has a tendency to happen in this exhibition match even if Buakaw is younger; training plays a huge role in every matches. However, Buakaw has edge of his reach which is for sure an advantage in a fight. Indeed exciting even if it is just an exhibition match, knowing that these two legends are known on their own fields.

Quote from: cabron on December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 AM

There is no retirement for this man. But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it. Since Pacman is so rich I'm guessing the funds will be for the Gaza? He is doing this all the time so there is no surprise.

Pacman and Floyd seem to be enjoying all their exhibitions while the commenters below this article are seriously bitter about these exhibition fights.

We cannot help those comments. People are waiting for official match but are only seeing exhibition matches wherein fighters aren't in full 100% of their fighting capabilities. But to sports enthusiasts, these kind of exhibition matches contributes big to sports industry; the fact that fighters are from different sports and that they are all legends on their own sports, makes it a must watch experience.

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

What's exciting about this fight is that we know what to expect. I mean, this cannot be a boring fight since Buakaw and Pacquiao are both warriors on their respective sports. I'm sure everyone knows that Buakaw is a kickboxer, so this is like an MMA fighter fighting a real boxer, same with Floyd vs McGreggor or Jake Paul vs the MMA fighters he beat, and of course, the boxers won.

Pacman is a sure winner here, just like his last exhibition fight with DK Yoo.

And, when Manny fights as we all know he fights his best inside the ring, it's more like he's entertaining the crowd as it is worth every penny that they paid to watch him fight.

That's why people loved him because he is an entertaining fighter, during pro and after retirement fighting for an exhibition fight, In fact, his first exhibition fight was a success as he won by KO against a youtube sensation. Promoters are willing to invest big money on this fight as they know people will come and witness this historic fight, legend vs legend, who would miss that fight?

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Although Buakaw was way more younger I don't think Pacquiao is already out of shape, he has been in shape and probably prepare this fight as well.

45 years old vs 41 years old, not much of an age disparity, and they are warriors, so they love to fight.

Manny pacman Pacquiao is one of the most popular boxers in the world so without a doubt many people want to see his fight this upcoming April which is pretty good and worth it enough to watch this fight and even though this is an exhibition fight but still I support the one and only 8 division champ. Manny pacman Pacquiao after his retirement then back to the ring again for the second time of his exhibition game.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on December 29, 2023, 11:25:08 AM

The only problem I see in this fight is that we'll have a muai thai fighter vs a boxer in a boxing match, so Manny is going to have the upper hand. Buakaw strength was mainly in his legs and he was also allowed to use elbows.

That's the disadvantage of Buakaw in this fight. However, it's still entertaining for me because these two are popular fighters, although we all know who will likely win the fight. As for me, I'm just interested to see on how this fight will go, if Buakaw will be aggressive, that could put him to sleep as Manny still has power.

I thought this is the 2nd exhibition fight of Manny but according to Wiki, this is already his 3rd since he has a record of 2-0 in an exhibition fight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_career_of_Manny_Pacquiao#Exhibition_boxing_record

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Exhibition boxing record

No.   Result   Record   Opponent   Type   Round, time   Date   Age   Location   Notes
2   Win   2–0   DK Yoo   UD   6   Dec 11, 2022   43 years, 358 days   Korea International Exhibition Center, Goyang, South Korea
1   Win   1–0   Jesus Salud   PTS   3   Aug 20, 2002   23 years, 246 days   Neal S. Blaisdell Arena, Honolulu, Hawaii, U.S.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Buakaw is one of the best muai thai fighters, although in the recent years I'd say that Rodtang became more popular, but about 15 years ago Buakaw was the most popular guy in this sport.
Basically every year he was in the top 3 of world K1 roster.
The only problem I see in this fight is that we'll have a muai thai fighter vs a boxer in a boxing match, so Manny is going to have the upper hand. Buakaw strength was mainly in his legs and he was also allowed to use elbows.

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

What's exciting about this fight is that we know what to expect. I mean, this cannot be a boring fight since Buakaw and Pacquiao are both warriors on their respective sports. I'm sure everyone knows that Buakaw is a kickboxer, so this is like an MMA fighter fighting a real boxer, same with Floyd vs McGreggor or Jake Paul vs the MMA fighters he beat, and of course, the boxers won.

Pacman is a sure winner here, just like his last exhibition fight with DK Yoo.

And, when Manny fights as we all know he fights his best inside the ring, it's more like he's entertaining the crowd as it is worth every penny that they paid to watch him fight.

That's why people loved him because he is an entertaining fighter, during pro and after retirement fighting for an exhibition fight, In fact, his first exhibition fight was a success as he won by KO against a youtube sensation. Promoters are willing to invest big money on this fight as they know people will come and witness this historic fight, legend vs legend, who would miss that fight?

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Although Buakaw was way more younger I don't think Pacquiao is already out of shape, he has been in shape and probably prepare this fight as well.

45 years old vs 41 years old, not much of an age disparity, and they are warriors, so they love to fight.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

Manny will surely on advantage with this match since as you already mention, this is the sports he master for his career. Buakaw is a Muay Thai legend but this is boxing which means there’s a handicap on him for not using Muay Thai rules such as legs and elbows on the match.

Pacquiao is still well conditioned even with his age so fighting against non pro boxer will be an easy fit for him although he might be in danger once he receives a solid punch like what Marquez did to him before.

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Great, I missed the news about the fight of Muay Thai legend who has previously been absent from fighting and he is favorite for everyone who loves Muay Thai free fighting.
Buakaw Por. Pramuk is everyone favorite fighter, especially the Thai people, he is living legend for the art of the sport of Muay Thai in Thailand.

Manny Pacquiao himself stated that he would be very careful with Buakaw fighting style, even though this fight was held as traditional boxing, Buakaw himself has very strong punches.
If the fight is free fight, perhaps Pacquiao will suffer defeat more quickly because he won't be able to keep up with how Buakaw fights.

I know in this fight of course Buakaw is the favorite and I will see what odds I can get from betting Buakaw.

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Quote from: cabron on December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 AM

But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it.

There was already a location of this fight, you can see from other source ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Buakaw_Banchamek

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Venue Bangkok, Thailand

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According to the promoter of the event, the Pacquiao vs. Buakaw match has a total investment of $25 million.

Both fighters will be making big money on this exhibition fight, bigger than a regular fight or professinal fight. So I don't agree with people saying that Pacman should just enjoy his retirement when he is enjoying his passion and at the same time making a decent amount of money.

We know that Manny loves to help, this million dollars he'll make, portion of these will surely goes to different charitable institutions.

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There is no retirement for this man. But there is no mention of the location yet so maybe they are still negotiating where they will do it. Since Pacman is so rich I'm guessing the funds will be for the Gaza? He is doing this all the time so there is no surprise.

Pacman and Floyd seem to be enjoying all their exhibitions while the commenters below this article are seriously bitter about these exhibition fights.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

What's exciting about this fight is that we know what to expect. I mean, this cannot be a boring fight since Buakaw and Pacquiao are both warriors on their respective sports. I'm sure everyone knows that Buakaw is a kickboxer, so this is like an MMA fighter fighting a real boxer, same with Floyd vs McGreggor or Jake Paul vs the MMA fighters he beat, and of course, the boxers won.

Pacman is a sure winner here, just like his last exhibition fight with DK Yoo.

And, when Manny fights as we all know he fights his best inside the ring, it's more like he's entertaining the crowd as it is worth every penny that they paid to watch him fight. Although Buakaw was way more younger I don't think Pacquiao is already out of shape, he has been in shape and probably prepare this fight as well.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on December 29, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

What's exciting about this fight is that we know what to expect. I mean, this cannot be a boring fight since Buakaw and Pacquiao are both warriors on their respective sports. I'm sure everyone knows that Buakaw is a kickboxer, so this is like an MMA fighter fighting a real boxer, same with Floyd vs McGreggor or Jake Paul vs the MMA fighters he beat, and of course, the boxers won.

Pacman is a sure winner here, just like his last exhibition fight with DK Yoo.

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Would be fun to watch both legends but was more excited on Pacquiao coming to the ring again considering I'm not that familiar with Buakaw though it ring a bell. I think the favor would be on Manny considering it is his niche that they'll fight for but there's not much of disparity though on both sports. Will support Pacquiao all the way.

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This has been speculated months ago and I think the fight is official now,

Both legends of contact sport, no introduction needed, and this fight is going to be in the traditional boxing rules:

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There will be six three-minute rounds with two-minute breaks.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341

Obviously though this is just a exhibition match Grin

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