Topic: [Boxing]: Taylor vs Catterall - May 26 (Read 346 times)

Lol, but yeah, he is senile old man, but still though, he keeps himself active, but his tirade at the top of the boxing ring though. I disagree with him that his boy won the fight. It's clearly Jack Catterall the winner here, he is the better fighter that night so we should give all the credit to him. Perhaps he can't take it that he will be losing another of his good boxers because he losses this one that's why he won't off and calling the score absurd.


We really don't know if there will be a 3rd fight. And I do think that Taylor will not be the A-side anymore, as I believed that in the first 2 fight, Taylor is the one calling the shots. As for calling Teo, it make sense for him as Teo is the bigger name and obviously, he is the lineal champion so there's a lot of stakes, and most likely Bob might want that to happen to get his revenge here as Teo is under Top Rank.

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With that, thanks to everyone who commented on this thread, I'm going to lock it for good.

He is squeezing the last bit of popularity out of Taylor, but that was probably the last time since he lost by unanimous decision. I think we are all convinced that his career is over. With 2 straight losses that were not even close, I think Taylor should realize it's time to call it a career.

I think he wants more actual, Teo is known to be a cocky boxer and probably more popular than Matias, so he is just following where the money is.

Arum forces himself to go up like he just got out of the nursing home just to express his disgust with the scorecard.  He is 90+ and he still playing around big fights lol The old man just won't die like Don King. Taylor is past his prime he should accept that. He was once undisputed but it's now over.

Catterall won't feel like he needs to fight Taylor but they may still give Taylor another shot if Arum says so. But Catterall should be calling out Matias and not Teo.

the fight ended with Catterall's victory, which in my opinion, although I didn't watch the fight live, I think that Catterall was a fair winner, during the fight he did better than his opponent Josh Taylor, and with that Catterall managed to get the revenge he wanted, so I hope there isn't a third round to have a tiebreaker, because in recent times this thing of a fighter winning a fight and then having another revenge fight seems to have become normal , that's why I won't be surprised if in the future there is a third fight if the fighters draw in two fights


source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/c4nn9ep3vz7o

after Taylor's victory in Glasgow, a victory that caused controversy, this fight was a good opportunity for Taylor to win and manage to put a good image of himself in the first fight, a victory yesterday could make them see that he is superior to Catterall , but unfortunately Taylor lost, there are people who say that Taylor's jabs are not as good as in the past, maybe that's true

Congratulations to Catterall, he won that fight

With British judges as the judge, he should not, I agree on this part but not on the part that he thinks that Taylor wins the match, no way he won that fight but it should not be with that wide margin, I did not score the fight but based on what I see Catterall won it by a slim margin.


I don't think he can, the skill level and the power are not enough to pair Catterall with Lopez, Pitbull Cruz or even Matias but he has a good chance against Haney although he is not that quick to counter Haney's quickness, he deserves to have a crack on the title as he has beaten the former undisputed champion convincingly, I'm sure Hearns will work on that but hopefully not in the British soil.

If Taylor couldn’t win convincingly after two fights, a third fight seems unnecessary. After becoming undisputed champin, Taylor has struggled in this weight class and it is about time for him to move up. Crawford and Spence are no longer at welterweight, and outside of Ennis, all the other belt holders are very beatable. I still think he would struggle because he is in decline but it would still be worth testing the waters to see if he still has something left. He already lost the 0 on his record and his titles, there is nothing left to lose.

Catterall has some limitations and isn’t quite on the same level as the champions. He does have momentum and has called out Teofimo. There is also Subriel Matias and Haney that are with Matchroom. Whoever he ends up facing, he will put up a good fight.

Crowd is pro Catterall and I don't know why the hatred on Josh Taylor is. Maybe the fight is held or near Jack's hometown though and so there are a lot of his fans watching this weigh-in and the fight itself.

After what has been said, Catterall already won in this rematch by a huge margin as per judges scorecard. Yes, it was a exciting as any fight will be as they are domestic rivals. And with the 140 lbs pretty much a great division with Teo Lopez, Matias, Pitbull Cruz, Garcia and Haney, it will be interesting to see how Catterall will fare against this American boxers.

He is requesting a 3rd and final fight between them, and yeah this could be the last one for Josh Taylor here. The score could be closer though, it seems like 2 judges had like like 9 rounds for Catterall. And I do agree, 147 lbs is pretty much stack up and I doubt that Taylor can go there and be a champion just like what he did at 140 lbs.

Maybe he could have hang up his gloves, but then again, a trilogy and he can still make a lot of money.

On the other hand, did you hear the rant of Bob Arum in the post fight interview? He said that he will not bring any American fighter in Britain? and he really looks disgusted and he thinks that Taylor won the fight.

The fight takes off where they left but this time Catterall is the more prepared between the two after reading the scorecard I was surprised by a very wide margin I agree that Catterall takes the win but 117- 111 is just too wide for a gap for a very close fight and with this lost Josh Taylor can think of retirement or maybe take a rest he is still young at 33 years old.

He managed to get the weight but the aggressiveness was not there anymore he can move up to the next weight but the competition in the higher division is tough and I don't think he can manage to shine in another weight division which is the Welterweight division but on his interview, he wants to a have a third one well a third one is good but Catterall already calculated Taylor and I believe Catterall will still beat him.

And it was great fight indeed, but at the end of it all, it was Jack Catterall who come in top, with a score of 117-111, 2x and 116-113. Although the score card looks ridiculous, as it seems 9-3 for Catterall, but I guess the correct winner is announced.

Jack dominated the fight from the first round and Josh hasn't anything to offer in this fight. It's just so sorry for Jack that there are no more belts in the line, and if he was given the nod in the first fight, he could be the undisputed champion.

For Josh Taylor, as a boxing fans, I think it's time for him to retire.

Yes, and if you look at the odds, it's Catterall that is the favorite now. And so there are reasons why boxing bettors now are putting their line on Josh Taylor. Maybe they really think that Taylor is past his prime or he really did lost the first fight. And we will understand the frustration of Catterall as there's no belt on the line anymore as in the first fight that he supposedly won, and if I'm not mistaken, there is the IBF belt. So very intense fight when two boxer really hate each other.

This is not a title fight but it has the elements to become a very interesting fight because of what was supposed to be a wrong decision by the judges, Catterral has axed to grind because he should be the one wearing all the titles after the first fight and now that the rematch is happening there is no title on the line.

It was kind of frustrating for Catterall so between the two Catterall has all the reasons to make it personal so I believe with this motivation he can beat Taylor, I was rooting then for Taylor but after the face-off something made me believe that this is going to be Catterall fight.

Thanks for the update, this will be this Sunday in my timezone, and I'm with you with your bet on Taylor as I find the odds attractive with 1.70. He is a slight favorite, and I'm hoping he'll be in the winning path again. On their first meeting, Josh won via split decision, so he knew how to beat Catterall, and since he is coming from a loss, I bet he's training so hard to be able to come back, so I like his chances here.

Wow just watched the weigh-in live stream Caterrall was getting cheered while Taylor was booed by the audience

Here is the result of the weigh in 139.8 for Caterrall and 139.6 for Taylor so we have a match this Sunday, on the face off Josh looks aggressive but there is minimal talk between the two they said the same thing all talks are over and they will go to work come fight night.

I have a hard time figuring it out but even though Taylor's performance last two fights was not that good I'll still go for Josh I still believe that Taylor can resurrect his career, but I have no problem with Catterall winning I just want to see a good fight, which I'm sure both fighters will give for their fans.

Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall 2 & Undercard Weigh In

The pressure is more on Josh Taylor though, this is a must win fight for him if he wanted to stay relevant as there are some boxing fans who says that he is no longer in his prime. So this is a big litmus test for him. For Jack Catterall, not much of a pressure but he needs to show us something that he really beat Josh in the first fight. And I have seen them need to be separated again, not sure what fight both of this boxers are watching. But the security was very quick to have them separated as they can throw a punch and going to be crazy.

So let's see if Jack can prove that he can really knock out Josh Taylor. He is now the favorite so he should live with that.

I haven't pull the trigger yet in this fight, to be honest, but most likely I will make the decision later.

This is what makes this fight interesting one former champion who will try to prove that he still has it and one guy who many think was robbed of becoming a champion.

It's just unfortunate for Caterrall that in their rematch Taylor is not the champion anymore, but if he can beat Taylor then he could become an immediate challenger for Teofimo Lopez.

Both fighters are desperate for a win and I don't think they will want to leave in the scorecard but if ever it goes the distance the judges better make the right decision, they cannot afford another controversial decision between these two fighters.

On their press conference Jack is standing on his prediction that he will knock out Taylor in round 7 this is big words indeed so let's see.

It's obvious that the boxers are not going to admit for such defeat, even Fury in his last fight against Usyk thinks he still won. But it's very different when the fans see that Taylor really lost the first fight and that's why they should have a immediate rematch that didn't happen until Taylor has no belt and it looks like he is way past his prime. I rewatch his fight against Pedraza when he captures the last belt for his unification and his first fight against Catterall and it's totally different version of Josh Taylor. And then after that he losses to Teo Lopez. So let's see if he can turn back the clock and dominate Jack here or Catterall shows us that he should be the winner of the first fight if he beat Taylor this time in a clear fashion.

And just to motivate anyone,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JEwQ626ne0

So it's question whether Josh Taylor can make weight at 140 lbs. And his trainer says that he will. And Jack says that this will be Josh's last ring walk, but Josh is unfazed and just totally laugh it off. I do agree that there is no belt in the line, but the hatred between the two are genuine here.

It is a controversial fight, and the reaction of the fans and Caterrall is just obvious, but if we watched Taylor's interview, he believed 100% that he won the match when asked about his rhythm, he told the interviewer that he might be off, but he did good and deserved the win, the  confidence is on Taylor, but the motivation is on Caterrall so on the night of the fight it will be settled.

All the judges in the coming fight are fully aware of what happened, so they will decide rightly on this one. However, for both fighters, it's better for them to go all out and go for a knockout and not put it in the judges' hands.
We fans don't like to see results that are different from what we witnessed.

But you did know that the fight is controversial, Catterall even knock down Taylor in round 8 if I'm not mistaken and Jack lost a very close score in the judges scorecard and there are fans who says that Catterall was robbed in that first fight. And there is a rematch, which was postponed time and time again until Josh Taylor decided not to fight and go to Teo which is a bad decision. And again, Taylor suffered a injury and they rescheduled it. So with that, I will agree that maybe Taylor is not mentally prepared against Catterall here and that's why he become the underdog. And lucky for those who might bet on Catterall early when he was still a underdog.

For the record Taylor only has one loss and its against Teofimo Lopez but Caterall is not Teofimo so I don't rule out Taylor yet, when you're a boxer and you are fighting a fighter you once beaten the psychological advantage is on your side, although the fight is too close both fighters will make a good adjustment, since they have learned a lot from their last fight.

Taylor needs to win this fight to get into contention for another title shot and Caterall will try to prove that he is the winner of the first fight by trying to dominate Taylor.

Usually when there is a rematch the fight will take off where they left with some adjustment to favor them so its will another an all out of winner take all fight between the two.

Meanwhile this is the open work out live stream of their fight
JOSH TAYLOR VS. JACK CATTERALL 2 OPEN WORKOUTS LIVESTREAM

That's right, I also slightly favoring Catterall now, it looks like Josh Taylor is really on the verge of retirement and maybe after this fight and losing he might be thinking of hanging up his gloves for good.

He has been damage already in the first fight and we all know how he lost his last belt to Teo Lopez and now he had injuries that this fight is postpone again. But fortunately, it was move and rescheduled and this is fight week already. So let's see how Taylor will look like in this fight. If Catterall really prepared in this fight, he could be looking for a knockout win here.

What a turn of events for this fight. I mean it started as Josh Taylor as the odds favorite, but it seems that the betting is leaning towards Jack Catterall as it seems that he is the bigger man now because Josh Taylor could really be just breathing some in this division as he could have a problem making weight at 140 lbs.

Yes, I do agree, it's better to put money on Jack Catterall now, I haven't check the line for a decision win, but I guess that's what I'm going to bet if it is more attracted than a ML bet. They are domestic rivals others have pointed out, they have to settle a lot of things regarding their rivalry specially that the first fight is controversial.

As of this writing, Catterall is now the slight favorite with an ML odds of 1.63 while the odds if we bet for Taylor is 2.14. Basing on their latest fights, i think i'm more inclined to bet for Catterall as Taylor is on a decline basing on what we saw on their last bouts. Though not a championship fight but i do believe that this fight is worth watching for those who love this sport of boxing as they have unfinish business.

BTW, the fight will be in a few days, this weekend to be specific.

Taylor was the slight favorite in the beginning as posted by the OP. So that lost to Lopez was already accounted for by sport bookies. But with another postponement and with Taylor reasoning that it was due to another injury, the odd maker shift it more to Catterall now and so it's almost 50:50 now. But I do agree that this is not going to be a snoozer fight, both might really take it personal and hate each other and likely wanted to take each other's head off because they are rivals. However, for me Taylor might have lost some step as well, and he is in the division that is very stack-up, 140-147 lbs.

This fight though is more of domestic rivalry, both are from England and so they are buying for their own respective fans. And I think it will sell locally, but not sure if it will be worldwide success as some fans are not familiar with Jack Catterall.

Nevertheless, it will be good for their local fans as they have been waiting for this rematch for sure. Taylor narrowly beat Catterall the first time but it was a close decision and others says that Catterall should have won that fight but the judges elected to give to the then champion Taylor. So no belts in the line but the fight is still very exciting and intriguing to see the outcome.

As there is no belt on the line, they need to make noise for this match. And trash talking is one of the easiest routes to make boxing fans interested. Taylor lost the belt to Lopez, hence, the odds now are seemingly 50/50. Maybe in some bookies, they will favour Taylor a lil bit. But I guess, I'll just watch this fight and not bet. The bad blood between them is said to be personal, but that's their business. So long they will give a toe-to-toe fight and not a boring one, I guess boxing aficionados will watch their fight. We will know what will happen next for Taylor's boxing career, if in case, he will lose this one. Maybe, hang his gloves or continue to fight. He's only 33, so he has still few years that he can be active before finally calling it a day.

Right, thanks for this bump and yeah this has been postponed with a new date and so I updated it as well. I do agree, and as we have been discussing, there could be fans who think that Catterall took everything from Taylor in this fight, because after this, Taylor was very different as he lost the belt to Teo Lopez.

And so there are no belts but personal pride is on the line between the two and as we can see during the press conference, there are a lot of trash talking. And Catterall even spoke that Taylor is faking his injury and doesn't want to face him. But everything has been settled that the new date is May 26.

Thanks for bumping this thread I saw this in my feed, and I remember there was a thread created for this match. This may not be a title match, but it has all the excitement; just like a World title, it is a grudge match, and we boxing fans love it when there are personal reasons involved; there are so many thrash talks between the two parties, the Usyk - Fury is coming, and after that fight, we have this fight to carry on our excitement in boxing, this is a great month for boxing fans.
I have a feeling that the fights of the year will be those that happened in April or May.

I thought that this fight has ended already, but when I checked it has moved to May 25.


https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/39731042/josh-taylor-injured-rematch-vs-jack-catterall-ppd

And with that, the odds as per Stake, it's now 50/50 at 1.86. It looks like Josh Taylor though has seen better days and the wear and tear is not affecting his body. So I wouldn't be surprised if Catterall finally get the numbers here against his arch nemesis.

Jack Catterall though is the younger if I'm not mistaken, and is not yet a battle torn fighter as compare to Josh Taylor. Who have to go to a lot to unify all the belts and I do agree that it might have added a negative effect to him as he looks like experiencing a burn-out after accomplishing it.

Of course, every boxer wanted to score a knockout win against their opponents, that is the goal in every fight. But not every night it will present itself and so you need to have plan B and be as dominant as you can and maybe the knockout will come. If not then the judges will score and hopefully you did your best. This is huge fight in UK as they are domestic rivals and so maybe a trilogy is possible because of the money that they can made and before Josh Taylor retire.

They just need to unleash it all here so that the fans will hype and whoever gonna wins this one, should not reach the official's decisions, in other words, it should be a TKO because there's no point in having a trilogy at this stage of their careers since they are at the peak of it and all they need to do is exert all effort to win their match since they are being overshadowed with the other boxers' popularity and they cannot seems to get a huge fights which everyone getting nowadays, I'm talking the middle eastern one where the payment is huge. All they need to do is get themselves off those contracts before they retire.

Added it as well to the OP, thanks for the suggestion (running out of merit, I will try to get back at you,  ).


Yes, it look like Josh has lost some step and his mind is no longer in boxing. While Catterall wanted to get his revenge against him in this fight. Nevertheless, the odd makers might see something in Josh Taylor as they put him as slight favorite again, not like in the first fight wherein Josh was a huge favorite. Who knows, if this is anther close and controversial fight, they might go for a trilogy. But it depends on the numbers that they are going to put in this fight. If it is promising as if it says that fight wants are willing to buy then maybe a 3rd fight might happen.

Yes, all of the sudden Josh Taylor looks old and past his prime against Teo Lopez and so he lost his belt just like that. He used to be the unified champion here, having all the belts, and then vacated the two if I'm not mistaken.

And so with this fight, we will see if Catterall can vindicate himself or at least shows us the he is indeed declared to be the winner in their fight. Only consolidation for him as there are no more belts in the line and probably this is the reason why Josh Taylor give him the rematch. Even if he losses, Catterall has nothing to gain except the bragging rights that he beat Josh in their rematch.

If Catterall will indeed prepare this fight seriously, the chance of getting an upset win is very likely. As the odds is not very wide, it means, bookies are on the side that they may have equal footing if both are getting inside the ring prepared. Both boxers have good KO percentage also, but Taylor is higher than Catterall. So Taylor needs to KO Catterall at the very early rounds to get a sure win. Otherwise, if this will go the distance, Catterall can get this match on his favour.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

And so Eddie Hearn is comparing the grudge match on Froch vs Groves,


https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-hearn-echoes-froch-groves--181597

But I think this is different though, there was no knockout or knockdown in the fight and it was just Jack Catterall is a bad match-up for Josh Taylor that time and we might say he could have underestimate Jack that time.

I would also agree that this is a big fight for either, Catterall to get up in the rankings for 140 lbs and even become a mandatory, and then for Josh, he needed this big win, to at least have a future fight in 140-147 lbs as a lost would obviously will obviously take a big toll on him mentally.

There are a lot of emotions during the face-off, both camp are very eager to face each other and there are a lot of words being thrown at each other before this fight. And so this is not just a taunt but they are talking this matter very personal specially Jack Catterall as he believed he was robbed in the first fight and that he should have been a champion already, so just imagine the emotions and his mentality that it took years for this fight to happen, but this time there are no belt but just bragging rights in the line. There has been a lot of domestic rivalries in UK though, so this could be one in the books. And who knows, if Jack won here there could be another fight to really settle the scores.  Some notable domestic rivalries  is Chris Eubank vs Nigel Benn, Khan vs Kell Brook, Eubank Jr vs Liam Smith.

You're just stating the fact he does look old it has something to do with his training yes this is one of the evidence that Taylor is trying to cut weight he needs to maintain a weight that is nearest to his ideal weight a week before the weigh-in so he can make the 140 in a gradual manner, so instead of being in his natural weight during the training and just to drastically cut weight one or two weeks before the fight.

Taylor is doing it right, the 147 weight two weeks before the fight is an ideal weight he can easily make the cut and rehydrate in time for the fight, what happened in the press conference was expected because Caterall cannot accept the defeat it was a very controversial win considering that all titles are at stake then, it's a big frustration for Caterall and he shows it in the press conference.

Not only that, there was a slapping incident at the press conference, Caterall just could not control himself from Taylor's taunt it's only 7 days before the fight the thrash talk will continue I just hope this time they will settle once and for all who is the better fighter I hope Taylor can make the weigh-in I like to see his move and his movement in the weigh, you can easily tell if a boxer will struggle in the ring, the weigh-in is an indication.
here is the video of that slap
Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall - EXPLOSIVE First Face-Off

Yes, same here, we can also look for the argument of boxers who go on weigh-in and not making the desired weight, stripped of the belt or even have to be penalized from the purse itself. And that's why this is professional, everything should be perfect, including their health going into the fight. But I guess, sometimes is avoidable for fighters to make the weight but they look very drain even in UFC fights and you can see that after the weigh in, they have some liquid to replenish their body.
Or even hydrating to 10 pounds of more during the fight night. So it's possible here, Taylor making it hard to his body to make the 140 lbs, but then gaining it back to during the fight night.

Saw the feed on my social media, about the press conference.

https://twitter.com/HotBoxingMinute/status/1759616800541802668

Josh Taylor looks old to me, sorry for his fans here. But the press conference is funny as hell, everyone has to say something bad against each other including the trainer of Jack.

And as expected, during the face-off

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NsFLfgPx-b8

They have to be separated, and it looks like there is no love lost between the two, hehehe.

Taylor though for me looks heavier here, so yeah probably walking about 140 lbs, and hopefully we can make the weight as he said that it could be either at 140 or 147 lbs they will have to fight. But here it's obvious that it will be 140 lbs.

Odds are out now, Josh the favorite

Taylor - 1.69
Catterall - 2.09

Edit: you can also search for the whole press conference if you like, to see how's everyone is animated, including Jack's trainer.

There's no belt on the line here, as you have seen, others pointed out that he lost his IBF belt to Teo Lopez. What's in line here is their pride as both is from UK so they are domestic rivals and for sure there are hype amongst their fans in their country.

Hopefully there will be no controversial, based on the two, after their first fight, Josh Taylor career might have been going down. Yeah, I do agree that he thinks that he is still in his prime, but if Jack beat him here, perhaps few fights like in him before he could retire. No need to go on if upcoming fighters are just going to beat the former undisputed 140 lbs champion. It might hit his legacy.

Probably because the fight was lackluster and they're not really that good of showman when it comes to hyping up the crowd so there's really not a lot of people that are talking about their fight and there's also the fact that it's a controversial split decision, that's probably one of the reason why not a lot of talks because of that issue.
If Catterall does his job right now and knock out Taylor then he'll secure the belt and I think that's probably the strategy for Catterall's team, they don't want to settle with a split decision because that could mean that they're going to see another lose for themselves, it's not far off to think that this 2nd fight is going to end the same controversial decision.

Definitely, but they can't help themselves though as there are obviously weight class and most of them try to really fight in this weight class that they feel they can dominate, just in the case of Josh Taylor who become undisputed. But if he goes up to 147 lbs, there are a lot of natural bigger guy than him. And so maybe this will be his last fight at this division before he will go up and give the long overdue rematch with Jack Catterall. Let's see how he will be in the weigh-in, maybe we can see him really drain or if his team did a good job on trying to maintain that weight at least for this fight.

Josh Taylor was previously defeated by Teofimo Lopez after his first fight against Catterall and of course in this first fight we saw that Josh Taylor was indeed better than Catterall, but all of this was taken over by Lopez.
First defeat but it really destroyed him because he lost the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO light welterweight belts when he wanted to become the undisputed champion Lopez really was the only boxer who was able to beat Josh Taylor during his career as professional boxer.
But even though he has lost his championship belt or previous title and suffered defeat to Lopez, that doesn't mean everyone considers him loser, there are still many people who believe that Josh Taylor will be able to get it all again.
He is also really prepared and very confident that in the rematch he will be able to beat Catterall easily.

I confident that Josh Taylor will really be able to beat Catterall as much confidence as he has, he is great fighter and he will still be one of the best.
Defeat is lesson and Josh Taylor will use his defeat against Lopez as valuable lesson.

Honestly, I don't want to see boxers draining themselves just to make weight it's a big handicap for a boxer, and too much loss of fluid in the body is dangerous I remember the great Pacquiao cutting weight while he was in the flyweight division it affected his performance his opponent just need to connect one punch to out down Pacquiao it was a body punch if Pacquiao is in good condition that guy could not even last long, so if Taylor cannot rehydrate properly in the fight Caterall can put out Taylor easily, Taylor needs a good nutritionist so he can balance cutting the weight and rehydrating at the right time.
I still have Taylor as the favorite but I need to first see how things will turnout in the weigh-in, this is something to watch out for how both fighters will do the weigh-in.

Yes, this fight should have taken 2 years ago. But there are reasons or shall we say excuses from the side of Josh Taylor that he seems not interesting of giving Jack Catterall his rematch. But maybe Josh Taylor can't find any suitable fighters or at least a fight that will make him a lot of money, and so he chooses to give Jack the fight in 2024. There career took a turn after the first fight, Josh lost the belt already, he is no longer the champion, while Jack has so-so performance and his lost to Taylor was obviously still in his mind.

So let's see if the Tartan Tornado can still pull the trigger or if he is what we call past his prime years already. He has been asked about it, and he says that he is not. And his lost to Teo doesn't mean that he is finished, according to him.

Both of them are playing dirty in that fight in my opinion, it could be that they really hate each other, but I don't think that Taylor is dominating, there are a lot of close rounds and that's why the first fight ended that way, scores, it's a split decision win for Josh.

However, I do agree that in close fight or close rounds, usually the judges gave it to the champion. And that's what happens here, Jack was so close to defeating Josh back then, but it should be very convincing for the judges. And with that, up to this day, it's questionable win for him and the only way to settle this is to get them to fight again here to settle it once and for all. Josh Taylor though might be in the danger as they are fighting at 140 lbs, in which he says that he had difficulty making the weight already. So he could be draining himself just to get to this limit.

Caterall played dirty in the fight, the point deduction may have an impact on the score but he deserves the deduction, In that fight Taylor but down but Caterall still hit him in the head, he could still play dirty in this fight because Taylor is dominating him, although the fight ended in the controversy, I consider Taylor winning the fight, Caterall never totally dominated the fight, in a championship match if the match is too close the champion will have the slight edge because the challenger should take the title away from the champion, which is to dominates him so its will not questionable in the eyes of the boxing community.

I've seen article about this match its good that you create this thread.


They should have held the match immediately but it's better late than never, the fight is very controversial and it is time for both fighters to settle the score and what way to settle it by knocking or dominating the other, in the first fight Taylor suffered his first career knockdown, I'm sure he will try to avenge that, their style fits each other.

I hope this time they'll get a good referee who can be totally in command of the fight, the first fight is quite dirty and the point deductions made an impact on the scorecard.

For this second fight, I prefer Taylor to win the fight because he has the height, reach, and skill advantage something he did not take advantage of in their first fight, Taylor badly needed this fight to recapture his old glory.

I haven't seen the first fight, but upon checking the records now, I see that it was a split decision win by Taylor. I think I will have to check the highlights of that particular fight. However, since this is not a championship fight and Taylor is not undefeated anymore after losing to Teofimo, I don't find it as an exciting matchup anymore.

If I have to choose between the two and place a bet, I'd take Catterall. I don't like how Taylor lost to Kambosos; he seemed to be not the same anymore. Additionally, I'm curious to see if he has fully recovered from his injury, so I'm fading him in this fight, at least for now.

They say it is better late than never. The fans will finally see this rematch that should have happened a long time ago. In their last matches, Catterall prevailed upon an old Linares while Taylor lost a decision to Lopez. There is no championship belt but this is a match British fans want. We will witness if Taylor is finished or if it is time for Catterall.

However, I can also predict that Taylor is doing this for money. He always said that by making the weight he forfeited part of his conditioning. He should move to another weight class after this match. Even though it will be more difficult to become champion assuming he goes up however perhaps his body will become more grounded and quicker if he does not dehydrate himself.

This is a very serious fight and a must watch for all. From the speech's of both fighters as read from the link provided in the Op it is obvious that this fight is not about the title literally, it's personal. According to Catterall, "this is not about the belt", in my opinion it is a revenge, a vendetta shoved fight for him to prove a point to his fans and other people.

I understand Taylor is a good fighter of which I admire his qualities but am in lack of faith in Taylor if he actually knows what is coming to him April 27th because Catterall isn't smile at all as he's ready to see Taylor to retirement.

The  rematch between Josh Taylor Vs Jack catterall fight is going to be tough fight regarding to how the fight ended last time with controversy. Jack catterall lost the fight with disputed decision to Josh Taylor, jack catterall even knocked him down in the eight round of the fight. The judges scorecards were questionable most people saw it as biased and inaccurate because they favoured Taylor despite catterall strong performance. catterall wanted the rematch of this fight because of how he lost last time the met it's going to be competitive for both.

It's just weird though, I mean Josh Taylor reach the top of 140 lbs, becoming just the second boxer to do that after Bud Crawford. But after that, it went downhill for him very quick. He vacated majority of the belt and just retain one. And then defended it against unknown Jack Catterall that time and it's supposed to be an easy fight for him. But he went toe to toe and almost lost it. Fans asking for a rematch, but he got injured and then deny Jack that rematch during that time. Lost to Teo and most likely could be in the sunset already and I do agree that he might consider retirement here if he lost to Jack without controversy.

Josh Taylor had a great run where he became undisputed champion but I believe he has already reached the limits of his potential and is now in decline. Catterall is an average fighter who he should have beaten easily the first time around. After that loss to Teofimo Lopez he cannot have another bad performance. I can’t see Taylor beating any of the champions, except for Rolly Romero who only fights PBC fighters. If he moves up he definitely won’t beat Crawford or even Ennis. It might be worth considering retirement at this point. We’ll see how he looks against Catterall to determine how much he has left and whether he is still viable at the championship level.

I think there's no more hype in this fight, they could have done it before when everyone is talking how amazing the 1st fight is and that a rematch should be done ASAP.

But it's obvious that Top Rank and Josh Taylor duck Jack Catterall and making excuses after excuses. He could have injuries, but then they let Teo Lopez, a Top Rank fighter to go against Josh Taylor and he was upset and now he doesn't have any belt anymore.

It might be good for their domestic fans in UK, and the day is also coincide with the Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney so it's a bad date for them.

I haven't seen anyone talk about this rematch,

But this is long overdue, rematch between bitter rivals Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall. There are fans who thought that Jack earn enough to beat Josh Taylor that time and win the undisputed 140 lbs. But Josh Taylor was declared the winner and they are supposed to fight for a rematch immediately after that. But Josh have supposedly injured his hands if I'm not mistaken and then we all know what happens next, Taylor lost to Teo. This is probably Taylor last hurrah, if he lose this one I think he might go and retire for good. Perhaps this is just for the money for Josh and I thought that he is going to move to 147 lbs, but competition there is going to be very hard for him.



https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-rematch-finalized-april-27-leeds--181453

What are your thoughts on this fight?

Latest odds:

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08