[Boxing]: Tete vs Casimero on Nov 30

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 02, 2019, 06:19:48 PM

I've watched a lot of fights of Casimero live and on TV and noticed the changes of the fighting style of this guy. I'm just glad though that he is on the camp of Manny, he can earn more there as MP promotion can get him big fights in terms of money.

Because MP promotion is a world class promotion, Manny can pay good trainers to trained their boxers pretty well and that improvement or changes you saw in casimero might is maybe because of that. Manny being the promoter who is still active in boxing, he can give tips to a boxer on how to be successful in the right and with dedication, nothing is impossible.

Being a hard puncher is what casimero's gift but he has to improve his speed more so he will not rely on one time shot knock out all the time when fighting a taller opponent.

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Quote from: sunsilk on December 02, 2019, 06:10:21 PM

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This is part of boxing, when a boxer is taller than the opponent everyone and even the fighter himself looks into it as an advantage so we can't blame him if he became too confident basing on that stat.

I guess my point is that he is over confident or over look his opponent here, not because of his physical attributes, but mentally though. Tete goes to the media and talks about fighting the monster Inoue when he had Casimero in front of him. This also cost Joshua to lost the fight against Ruiz, because he over looked Ruiz and he is looking forward to fight Wilder next. But look at those boxers, Tete and Joshua was destroyed in similar fashion. So never underestimate your opponents and be confident.

This is part of their ticket sales, they boast on media and say what they want to say to degrade the confidence of their opponent. And also, this adds drama to the feelings of the fans so that they'll buy ticket or watch for the game.

I don't think that Tete camp is doing that to boost ticket sales, they were over confident as they think that Casimero is a push over and a nobody. I, personally don't have a high hope on a Casimero win because this guy is unpredictable but he could be lethal to opponents if given the chance and that's what happened to Tete. I've watched a lot of fights of Casimero live and on TV and noticed the changes of the fighting style of this guy. I'm just glad though that he is on the camp of Manny, he can earn more there as MP promotion can get him big fights in terms of money.

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This is part of boxing, when a boxer is taller than the opponent everyone and even the fighter himself looks into it as an advantage so we can't blame him if he became too confident basing on that stat.

I guess my point is that he is over confident or over look his opponent here, not because of his physical attributes, but mentally though. Tete goes to the media and talks about fighting the monster Inoue when he had Casimero in front of him. This also cost Joshua to lost the fight against Ruiz, because he over looked Ruiz and he is looking forward to fight Wilder next. But look at those boxers, Tete and Joshua was destroyed in similar fashion. So never underestimate your opponents and be confident.

This is part of their ticket sales, they boast on media and say what they want to say to degrade the confidence of their opponent. And also, this adds drama to the feelings of the fans so that they'll buy ticket or watch for the game.

The same goes for the match between Pacquiao and Thurman.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 01, 2019, 06:55:31 PM

Damn, Casimero really proved himself with a statement win against the much formidable and favourite Tete. That hit to the temple much be really hard that Tete was really out and can't recover. Casimero should go out and fight in the US as @Finestream have said.

He should be exposed to the US audience so that he can get good paycheck as well. I mean he has been traveling around the world, but we all know that the mecca of boxing is in the US so MP should put him in US soil for his next fight.

Casimero already fought in the US and it was against Ricardo Franco for the vacant WBO World Bantam Weight title which he successfully claimed against him. The thing is Franco is just a mediocre boxer at best that's why Casimero's name didn't made a noise in the U.S. another reason why his name isn't that big is mainly because of his weight division, bantam weight, which isn't really that popular in the US since they tend to watch bigger and heavier boxers which I think starts at the Welterweight division where you will see boxers like Pacquiao, Terrence Crawford, and Errol Spence Jr.. If he didn't get the chance to be popular in this division he always have a chance to move up weight and prove himself like what Pacquiao did.

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Quote from: stadus on December 02, 2019, 05:57:29 AM

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I will keep this thread for at least 24 hours.....

I think its time to lock this thread now, Casimero won and it would be appropriate if we discuss other topics at the right thread.

Casimero vs Inoue would be a great thread title if you want to discuss the possibilities that these two would met.

Yes, the OP should lock this thread however it was a match which I will remember though. I have seen the highlights on youtube few times and I was really shocked to see Tete lose. I was betting on Tete but unfortunately Casimero won.

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Damn, Casimero really proved himself with a statement win against the much formidable and favourite Tete. That hit to the temple much be really hard that Tete was really out and can't recover. Casimero should go out and fight in the US as @Finestream have said.

He should be exposed to the US audience so that he can get good paycheck as well. I mean he has been traveling around the world, but we all know that the mecca of boxing is in the US so MP should put him in US soil for his next fight.

What Manny Pacquiao can do to boxers with good potential is put them as part of his match as an under card, its a good exposure for new boxers.
If Manny will promote him (Casimero) as a headliner in a fight in the US, it might not get enough attention. Manny started as an undercard to get noticed when he was ab under card in the Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson in 2002.

It's true that to get the attentions of boxing fans and promoters, Casimero should fight as undercard of a super fight. But of course he should fight against the best in his weight division or else he won't get much attention and fame.

Basically that the only way for him to get into popularity in boxing, but if he won't deal with it I don't think he can make it towards fame like Manny Pacquiao or Floyd. Boxing career needs to be more exposed on different divisions regardless of weight, as long as a boxer can fight according to his capabilities and ability.

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I will keep this thread for at least 24 hours.....

I think its time to lock this thread now, Casimero won and it would be appropriate if we discuss other topics at the right thread.

Casimero vs Inoue would be a great thread title if you want to discuss the possibilities that these two would met.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on December 02, 2019, 02:23:48 AM

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Damn, Casimero really proved himself with a statement win against the much formidable and favourite Tete. That hit to the temple much be really hard that Tete was really out and can't recover. Casimero should go out and fight in the US as @Finestream have said.

He should be exposed to the US audience so that he can get good paycheck as well. I mean he has been traveling around the world, but we all know that the mecca of boxing is in the US so MP should put him in US soil for his next fight.

What Manny Pacquiao can do to boxers with good potential is put them as part of his match as an under card, its a good exposure for new boxers.
If Manny will promote him (Casimero) as a headliner in a fight in the US, it might not get enough attention. Manny started as an undercard to get noticed when he was ab under card in the Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson in 2002.

It's true that to get the attentions of boxing fans and promoters, Casimero should fight as undercard of a super fight. But of course he should fight against the best in his weight division or else he won't get much attention and fame.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 01, 2019, 06:55:31 PM

Damn, Casimero really proved himself with a statement win against the much formidable and favourite Tete. That hit to the temple much be really hard that Tete was really out and can't recover. Casimero should go out and fight in the US as @Finestream have said.

He should be exposed to the US audience so that he can get good paycheck as well. I mean he has been traveling around the world, but we all know that the mecca of boxing is in the US so MP should put him in US soil for his next fight.

What Manny Pacquiao can do to boxers with good potential is put them as part of his match as an under card, its a good exposure for new boxers.
If Manny will promote him (Casimero) as a headliner in a fight in the US, it might not get enough attention. Manny started as an undercard to get noticed when he was ab under card in the Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson in 2002.

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Damn, Casimero really proved himself with a statement win against the much formidable and favourite Tete. That hit to the temple much be really hard that Tete was really out and can't recover. Casimero should go out and fight in the US as @Finestream have said.

He should be exposed to the US audience so that he can get good paycheck as well. I mean he has been traveling around the world, but we all know that the mecca of boxing is in the US so MP should put him in US soil for his next fight.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 01, 2019, 06:22:33 PM

I would like to see an action pack fight against Inoue next year. And I wanted it to happen in Japan, that will be huge if he can upset Inoue as well.

How about giving them a big break and bring that fight to the US?

Same promoter of course but with MP promotion, that will bring a huge crowd in the US as Manny is a legend and he is very popular, when that fight will happen, hopefully they'll have some PPV on that one so its another increase of their reward for that big fight they will give to the fans.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 01, 2019, 07:32:30 AM

I'm proud that once again we have an exciting fight that just beat the heavy favorite and he is the world champion now.
Congratulations to Johnriel Casimero for winning the fight and bringing glory to our country, with this win, I hope Inoue will respond to the challenge, he is a beast killer, we will surely witness a great fight between these 2 great fighters.

This kid really has a good future but if he decide to be under ALA he will lose this kind of power and his stamina. Casimero is projected to be a lethal boxer and against Tete, he seems to be a great underdog but he proved that he is much deadly than Tete.

I wouldn't categorically call Casimero as a kid though, he has been in a a lot of tough battles in the past. Just checked out the the link that the OP has posted in the first page, the fight against Lazarte in 2012, so that's 9 freaking years ago, so he is already a veteran of boxing and has been fighting champions and challenges them in their hometown that's why Casimero is a road warrior.

@Viscore - yes, I would like to see an action pack fight against Inoue next year. And I wanted it to happen in Japan, that will be huge if he can upset Inoue as well.

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Congratulations to Casimero and obviously to those bettors that has won this match.

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A fighter usually gets knock out with he didn't respect his opponent or at least over confident that he can just over power him because he is the taller guy here.

This is part of boxing, when a boxer is taller than the opponent everyone and even the fighter himself looks into it as an advantage so we can't blame him if he became too confident basing on that stat.

I guess my point is that he is over confident or over look his opponent here, not because of his physical attributes, but mentally though. Tete goes to the media and talks about fighting the monster Inoue when he had Casimero in front of him. This also cost Joshua to lost the fight against Ruiz, because he over looked Ruiz and he is looking forward to fight Wilder next. But look at those boxers, Tete and Joshua was destroyed in similar fashion. So never underestimate your opponents and be confident.

That's the way boxers talked, they are promoting a fight in advance as they claim to be winning against their opponent before the fight that they really want. Tete's career is not over yet but this win by Casimero opens up a great opportunity for us fans to see a good match.

Imagine Casimero and Inoue fighting, we would really see a real fight their that there is no backing down and does not rely on strategy to only score.
Tete's style was boring, good thing Casimero hit him with a great shot that resulted to a knock down then eventually knock him out.
Casimero's dedication to his craft is shown here, now no one should be underestimating him.

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Congratulations to Casimero and obviously to those bettors that has won this match.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 01, 2019, 04:28:09 PM

A fighter usually gets knock out with he didn't respect his opponent or at least over confident that he can just over power him because he is the taller guy here.

This is part of boxing, when a boxer is taller than the opponent everyone and even the fighter himself looks into it as an advantage so we can't blame him if he became too confident basing on that stat.

I guess my point is that he is over confident or over look his opponent here, not because of his physical attributes, but mentally though. Tete goes to the media and talks about fighting the monster Inoue when he had Casimero in front of him. This also cost Joshua to lost the fight against Ruiz, because he over looked Ruiz and he is looking forward to fight Wilder next. But look at those boxers, Tete and Joshua was destroyed in similar fashion. So never underestimate your opponents and be confident.

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Before this thread will be closed, I want to say my congratulations to Casimero for beating Tete and be the bantamweight champion.
A lot of winners here have already enjoyed their money and hopefully we will see him fight again next year.

I would say that if Inoue and Casimero will fight next year, its another big challenge for Casimero since Inoue is undefeated, however, with the way he showed against Tete, I believe it would be one of the biggest fight in bamtamweight division and I hope Inoue's injury will heal soon.

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The Punch that matter the most and took the match away from Tete.

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It such a glory haha and it's like a stopping moment when Tete was left disoriented after Casimero hit him in the temple. Really, those who are so over confident will just eat their words.

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So far the best knock out win by Casimero I hate how Tete, look down on Casimero he really thinks that Casimero is a pushover, that was a sensational win, the Inoue Casimero fight is something to watch out for, I hope it pushes through, Casimero's style suits Inoue style, it's going to be a blockbuster fight when it happens.

A fighter usually gets knock out with he didn't respect his opponent or at least over confident that he can just over power him because he is the taller guy here. Style makes fight, so it will be interesting if Casimero vs Inoue will take place because it will be a dangerous fight for Inoue. However, Inoue is not ready for any fight yet, remember that Nonito broke his orbital bone, so it make time to heal. That punch though really take the soul of Tete, Grin

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Quote from: Casdinyard on December 01, 2019, 03:05:07 AM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on December 01, 2019, 12:44:26 AM

The Punch that matter the most and took the match away from Tete.

It such a glory haha and it's like a stopping moment when Tete was left disoriented after Casimero hit him in the temple. Really, those who are so over confident will just eat their words.

Congratulations 🎉
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So far the best knock out win by Casimero I hate how Tete, look down on Casimero he really thinks that Casimero is a pushover, that was a sensational win, the Inoue Casimero fight is something to watch out for, I hope it pushes through, Casimero's style suits Inoue style, it's going to be a blockbuster fight when it happens.

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The Punch that matter the most and took the match away from Tete.

It such a glory haha and it's like a stopping moment when Tete was left disoriented after Casimero hit him in the temple. Really, those who are so over confident will just eat their words.

Congratulations 🎉
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Tete obviously coming into the fight thinking Casimero is just an overrated fighter for him, he cannot even land a decent punch on Casimero, because he is too quick and too fast, now the INOUE fight will go to Casimero, I remember Tete telling people Inoue should first get to him before he is called a king, imagine that.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 01, 2019, 07:32:30 AM

I'm proud that once again we have an exciting fight that just beat the heavy favorite and he is the world champion now.
Congratulations to Johnriel Casimero for winning the fight and bringing glory to our country, with this win, I hope Inoue will respond to the challenge, he is a beast killer, we will surely witness a great fight between these 2 great fighters.

This kid really has a good future but if he decide to be under ALA he will lose this kind of power and his stamina. Casimero is projected to be a lethal boxer and against Tete, he seems to be a great underdog but he proved that he is much deadly than Tete.

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I'm proud that once again we have an exciting fight that just beat the heavy favorite and he is the world champion now.
Congratulations to Johnriel Casimero for winning the fight and bringing glory to our country, with this win, I hope Inoue will respond to the challenge, he is a beast killer, we will surely witness a great fight between these 2 great fighters.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on December 01, 2019, 12:44:26 AM

The Punch that matter the most and took the match away from Tete.

It such a glory haha and it's like a stopping moment when Tete was left disoriented after Casimero hit him in the temple. Really, those who are so over confident will just eat their words.

Congratulations 🎉
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The Punch that matter the most and took the match away from Tete.

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Edwards was right when he said Casimero is one hard puncher, that was a quick job for Casimero, I just don't like how the ref acted on this fight he even helps Tete to get up, and he should have stopped the fight on the first knockdown and more so on the second knockdown the last puch on the face of Tete is very hard and loud you can hear it, here is the video of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn96zYCgxU8

For me, I think because Tete is the champion so the referee did that. That is what I see in most fights when a champion is in trouble, its either give him chance to fight if the referee knows that he can.

Anyway, proud countrymen here and our boxer won again. His last 5 matches ended in a stoppage including this. That right punch in the temple made Tete dizzy for a long time that even though the match ended, he remains dizzy for around 1-2 minutes. I will watch this boxer because I see a bright future for him Cheesy

Good job for Casimero for bringing glory to our country. Another boxer to watch out. Continue the legacy and make your country proud.
This win adds up to his belt making him more competitive to attract more fighters to challenge him for the title. It was amazing to see
how he's killer punch KO Tete.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 30, 2019, 09:39:32 PM

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Edwards was right when he said Casimero is one hard puncher, that was a quick job for Casimero, I just don't like how the ref acted on this fight he even helps Tete to get up, and he should have stopped the fight on the first knockdown and more so on the second knockdown the last puch on the face of Tete is very hard and loud you can hear it, here is the video of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn96zYCgxU8

For me, I think because Tete is the champion so the referee did that. That is what I see in most fights when a champion is in trouble, its either give him chance to fight if the referee knows that he can.

Anyway, proud countrymen here and our boxer won again. His last 5 matches ended in a stoppage including this. That right punch in the temple made Tete dizzy for a long time that even though the match ended, he remains dizzy for around 1-2 minutes. I will watch this boxer because I see a bright future for him Cheesy

Tete was unstable in the 3rd round and there were no answer from him to the Casimero punches. The referee did give him chance to the south African champion but Casimero was too good for him.

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and thanks to the sweet winning, though its not graded yet.

Hope you will enjoy your weekend with this sweet winning Wink

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Quote from: Japinat on November 30, 2019, 04:57:55 PM

Congratulatoins to casimero for winning the fight by 3rd round KO,... I try to wake up early set my alarm but the fight was over early, so I was not able to see it live. anyway, thanks that I there's a video in youtube on the 3rd round full fight and I saw how casimero defeated the heavy favorite.

Zolani Tete vs John Riel Casimero Full Fight KO Rnd3 Boxing 11/30/19

and thanks to the sweet winning, though its not graded yet.

Wow! This is a sweet winning prize. It is always best to win against a huge favorite. Great job for you and for all the fans of Casimero! At last, all ~5 Filipino boxers who lost under the punches of Tete are avenged. But this is not all about vengeance, of course. Only sort of. Grin

I was not able to watch the fight live myself but thanks for the link. I will watch it later today. Didn't place a bet either. But I'm happy for all those who did.

Congrats, Casimero!

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 30, 2019, 06:53:15 PM

Edwards was right when he said Casimero is one hard puncher, that was a quick job for Casimero, I just don't like how the ref acted on this fight he even helps Tete to get up, and he should have stopped the fight on the first knockdown and more so on the second knockdown the last puch on the face of Tete is very hard and loud you can hear it, here is the video of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn96zYCgxU8

For me, I think because Tete is the champion so the referee did that. That is what I see in most fights when a champion is in trouble, its either give him chance to fight if the referee knows that he can.

Anyway, proud countrymen here and our boxer won again. His last 5 matches ended in a stoppage including this. That right punch in the temple made Tete dizzy for a long time that even though the match ended, he remains dizzy for around 1-2 minutes. I will watch this boxer because I see a bright future for him Cheesy

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Edwards was right when he said Casimero is one hard puncher, that was a quick job for Casimero, I just don't like how the ref acted on this fight he even helps Tete to get up, and he should have stopped the fight on the first knockdown and more so on the second knockdown the last puch on the face of Tete is very hard and loud you can hear it, here is the video of the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn96zYCgxU8

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Yeah, congrats to everyone who ride on Casimero. I guess everyone is right about their prediction of the fight Grin

. I will keep this thread for at least 24 hours and let others give their thoughts and for sure many of us Filipinos are very happy with the result here. Congrats to Johnriel Casimero!!!

Thanks mate, I know there are still a lot of winners here who are still asleep, expect when they wake up, they will share their winning bets here, lol..
I am still for my bet to be graded... and man, I should have won x26 if I bet on round 3 knock out. Grin

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 30, 2019, 06:06:24 PM

My bet in Sportsbet has not been settled yet

, that's why i think the fight has not started yet lol.

same here, I'm excited to withdraw to treat my family today. haha

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Wow, very great news not just for us bettors here but to all the Filipinos all over the world.

My bet in Sportsbet has not been settled yet

, that's why i think the fight has not started yet lol.

Anyways, congrats Quadro Alas, you indeed have pulled the aces in your pocket to surprise us

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Congratulatoins to casimero for winning the fight by 3rd round KO,... I try to wake up early set my alarm but the fight was over early, so I was not able to see it live. anyway, thanks that I there's a video in youtube on the 3rd round full fight and I saw how casimero defeated the heavy favorite.

Zolani Tete vs John Riel Casimero Full Fight KO Rnd3 Boxing 11/30/19

and thanks to the sweet winning, though its not graded yet.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 29, 2019, 06:28:27 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on November 29, 2019, 06:05:39 PM

I just want to ask for some clarification to those who know the schedule of fight in Philippine time, so this fight will happen on Sunday @5 AM as per the picture above?

I think the picture posted above is correct, as stated below, it is a six-bout stream that will start at 2 p.m. and probably ends at 10 p.m over there in England which is 11:00 a.m. in the Philippines.

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Tete-Casimero will headline a scheduled six-bout stream on ESPN+, the leading multi-sport streaming service, beginning at 2 p.m. ET/11 a.m.

The match will begin at November 30 at 4 PM Birmingham time and it is currently 10:40 AM in Birmingham, UK. So there is still around 5 hours left in the match. The rest of the world can calculate the time for their own country. The match will be live telecast on BT Sport channel. Do not miss this match.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 29, 2019, 06:05:39 PM

I just want to ask for some clarification to those who know the schedule of fight in Philippine time, so this fight will happen on Sunday @5 AM as per the picture above?

I think the picture posted above is correct, as stated below, it is a six-bout stream that will start at 2 p.m. and probably ends at 10 p.m over there in England which is 11:00 a.m. in the Philippines.

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Tete-Casimero will headline a scheduled six-bout stream on ESPN+, the leading multi-sport streaming service, beginning at 2 p.m. ET/11 a.m.

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I just want to ask for some clarification to those who know the schedule of fight in Philippine time, so this fight will happen on Sunday @5 AM as per the picture above?

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They haven't been in the level of Donaire or other boxers outside ALA promotions. They are not only weak but they are also been abused by the owner. I think this fight between Tete and Casimero will open more opportunities for filipino boxers to refrain joining the ALA stable.

MP promotion is the best promotion as Manny is more influential and a fighter has a better chance to fight outside the Philippines.
most of the fights of the ALA promotion are done in the Philippines and time is gold so a chance to fight abroad is what fighters really like.
I believe Casimero and Ancajas are both under MP now, hopefully they'll follow the success of Manny.

Actually Manny Pacquiao did try to bid on the fight, but he lost it to Frank Warren that's why the fight is stage in UK. Just imagine if Manny did get the fight and stage it on the Philippines, that will be huge confident boost for Casimero.

And since he is under MP, I'm sure he is well taken care of as well. We all know that Manny fully supports his fighter and I'm sure Casimero is motivated to bring back the title in the Philippines.

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Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

This might be an interesting fight from another Filipino boxer, knowing the stamina of a young furios pinoy fighter the chance of winning the fight is very possible. Tete's out from the ring for more than a year and this will serve as his comeback fight, while Casimero just got his last win august of this year defending his title knocking down Ramirez from Mexico.

Performance would be different on the site of Tete.If this would be some sort of comeback fight then we can really point out which one would have the edge.When it comes to stamina then i would hands down
with Casimero.

Even though this fight shouldnt really be taken carelessly or confidently yet Tete wont reach up those stats if hes not capable to take you down.The fight would vary on endurance for sure.

Both fighters will show that they are deserving that they are the champion, Tete is coming from an injury, we will see if that injury has fully healed already. Though its understandable that Casimero is the underdog of the fight but we have seen him fight and he doesn't seems easily get's intimidated, he is also a bad boy in the ring in any venue.

I cant deny the capability of Casimero which Tete shouldnt really tend to look down upon him yet same as said above there might be an upset on this case.
Coming back from an injury does really have the difference in terms of performance and we would see if its totally healed or not.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on November 29, 2019, 07:18:59 AM

They haven't been in the level of Donaire or other boxers outside ALA promotions. They are not only weak but they are also been abused by the owner. I think this fight between Tete and Casimero will open more opportunities for filipino boxers to refrain joining the ALA stable.

MP promotion is the best promotion as Manny is more influential and a fighter has a better chance to fight outside the Philippines.
most of the fights of the ALA promotion are done in the Philippines and time is gold so a chance to fight abroad is what fighters really like.
I believe Casimero and Ancajas are both under MP now, hopefully they'll follow the success of Manny.

Going international fights rather than local one is much more better but getting experience locally would be mainly suggested after planning to fight other nationalities
as form of preparation.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on November 29, 2019, 07:18:59 AM

They haven't been in the level of Donaire or other boxers outside ALA promotions. They are not only weak but they are also been abused by the owner. I think this fight between Tete and Casimero will open more opportunities for filipino boxers to refrain joining the ALA stable.

MP promotion is the best promotion as Manny is more influential and a fighter has a better chance to fight outside the Philippines.
most of the fights of the ALA promotion are done in the Philippines and time is gold so a chance to fight abroad is what fighters really like.
I believe Casimero and Ancajas are both under MP now, hopefully they'll follow the success of Manny.

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Quote from: Darker45 on November 28, 2019, 09:17:29 PM

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I'm sure this is going to be an uphill battle for Casimero. Zolani Tete is doubtless the favorite here. Even the stats are clearly showing this. Zolani has the height. He has the reach as well. Casimero needs to get inside and get on the body of this South African Filipino killer, before knocking him down unconscious. Casimero has to win whatever happens. This Tete has already defeated many Filipinos in his past fights, the last one was the ALA "King", Arthur Villanueva.

The talent level of those Filipino fighters whom Tete deafeated is way lower than that of Casimero, Villanueva is the only one who is legit enough to challenge Tete maybe because he was once under the prominent ALA stable of Cebu. Casimero, though underdog in the bookies but is clearly a threat to Tete's belt as he pack a punch and can knock-out opponent with just one punch.

off topic a bit bai Grin

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The only ALA boxer whom i admire the most is Z Gorres, who almost defeated Fernando Montiel here in Cebu, unfortunately he run out of gas in the championship rounds. That's the trade mark of ALA fighters, they run out of gas in the latter rounds Grin

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Villanueva gave a good fight against Tete. But Tete proved to be the better fighter in the end. He was obviously more athletic than Villanueva. Tete is good in keeping the fight within a distance in which he is very comfortable.

There were more than a handful of good ALA fighters but like you said many of them seem to lack the gas in the long run. I would even say most of them seem to lack the will to fight until their last breath. Once an ALA boxer tastes defeat, he seems to like it. Perhaps they are so used to fighting against feeder opponents that when faced with an equally good opponent, they feel inferior and weak. Gorres, Bautista, Banal, Suico, Milendo, and many more had the talent. But they only reached a limited level of success.

They haven't been in the level of Donaire or other boxers outside ALA promotions. They are not only weak but they are also been abused by the owner. I think this fight between Tete and Casimero will open more opportunities for filipino boxers to refrain joining the ALA stable.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

well you made a good decision as we are both for casimero for the fight tomorrow,the Odds really matter in this one so Goodluck for us Buddy.

This is not happening tomorrow I guess, the fight will happen in December 1, 2019.

I shared a betting odds above, you can check the link I posted.

Based on the link that you had shared I think it will be on Saturday 30th of November implying that I don't see any news about the said of the date, well maybe you can share it here for us to see,

And regarding the Tete vs Casimero fight, in my opinion, Zolani Tete will be in big trouble against John Reil Casimero, Sunny Edwards suspects that Casimero will be very dangerous for Zolani Tete he then discusses that he had seen up close how Casimero showcase his punching power and he also thinks that Casimero had a good run of forms so he got a huge advantage against Tete this upcoming fight he is not saying this just because Casimero defeated Edwards brother but his insight how disgustingly dangerous Casimero he then added.

https://www.boxingscene.com/edwards-warns-casimero-very-dangerous-zolani-tete--144100

yeah that's saturday.
here's the time converter - http://www.timebie.com/timezone/philippineslondon.php
its 11 AM in the Philippines while 5: AM london time, I hope my computation is correct so I won't miss it live.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 28, 2019, 07:21:12 PM

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I'm sure this is going to be an uphill battle for Casimero. Zolani Tete is doubtless the favorite here. Even the stats are clearly showing this. Zolani has the height. He has the reach as well. Casimero needs to get inside and get on the body of this South African Filipino killer, before knocking him down unconscious. Casimero has to win whatever happens. This Tete has already defeated many Filipinos in his past fights, the last one was the ALA "King", Arthur Villanueva.

The talent level of those Filipino fighters whom Tete deafeated is way lower than that of Casimero, Villanueva is the only one who is legit enough to challenge Tete maybe because he was once under the prominent ALA stable of Cebu. Casimero, though underdog in the bookies but is clearly a threat to Tete's belt as he pack a punch and can knock-out opponent with just one punch.

off topic a bit bai Grin

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The only ALA boxer whom i admire the most is Z Gorres, who almost defeated Fernando Montiel here in Cebu, unfortunately he run out of gas in the championship rounds. That's the trade mark of ALA fighters, they run out of gas in the latter rounds Grin

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Villanueva gave a good fight against Tete. But Tete proved to be the better fighter in the end. He was obviously more athletic than Villanueva. Tete is good in keeping the fight within a distance in which he is very comfortable.

There were more than a handful of good ALA fighters but like you said many of them seem to lack the gas in the long run. I would even say most of them seem to lack the will to fight until their last breath. Once an ALA boxer tastes defeat, he seems to like it. Perhaps they are so used to fighting against feeder opponents that when faced with an equally good opponent, they feel inferior and weak. Gorres, Bautista, Banal, Suico, Milendo, and many more had the talent. But they only reached a limited level of success.

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Quote from: Darker45 on November 25, 2019, 06:44:35 AM

I'm sure this is going to be an uphill battle for Casimero. Zolani Tete is doubtless the favorite here. Even the stats are clearly showing this. Zolani has the height. He has the reach as well. Casimero needs to get inside and get on the body of this South African Filipino killer, before knocking him down unconscious. Casimero has to win whatever happens. This Tete has already defeated many Filipinos in his past fights, the last one was the ALA "King", Arthur Villanueva.

The talent level of those Filipino fighters whom Tete deafeated is way lower than that of Casimero, Villanueva is the only one who is legit enough to challenge Tete maybe because he was once under the prominent ALA stable of Cebu. Casimero, though underdog in the bookies but is clearly a threat to Tete's belt as he pack a punch and can knock-out opponent with just one punch.

off topic a bit bai Grin

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The only ALA boxer whom i admire the most is Z Gorres, who almost defeated Fernando Montiel here in Cebu, unfortunately he run out of gas in the championship rounds. That's the trade mark of ALA fighters, they run out of gas in the latter rounds Grin

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Quote from: stadus on November 27, 2019, 06:02:14 PM

For bettors here, line is already up in sportsbet. check the link before it's gone, lol

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/tete-zolani-casimero-johnriel-5ddcebae2836452d827baf83

Just use price boost so the odds will increase, its casimero's line is only 2.95 while 3.1 in pinnacle, one of the biggest sportsbook.

Thanks mate, I thought that sportsbet won't offer anything because the fight is getting closer. I would say it's a great odds.

I would agree that Casimero has been in the shadows of most Filipino boxers, but he has proven that he can go out and fight the best out of his division. If Tete is overlooking at Casimero and talking about fighting next Naoya Inoue, then he might suffer an upset here, just like when Joshua was talking about fighting Wilder next when he has his hands full in Andy Ruiz during their first fight.

Inoue's weakness was exposed during his fight against Donaire, and with the style of Tete, I think its not fun to watch if we will not be able to see Inoue engaged toe to toe to his opponent, I also like Casimero to deafeat Tete and have the chance to fight Inoue and to avenge his fellow Filipino.

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Quote from: stadus on November 27, 2019, 06:02:14 PM

For bettors here, line is already up in sportsbet. check the link before it's gone, lol

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/tete-zolani-casimero-johnriel-5ddcebae2836452d827baf83

Just use price boost so the odds will increase, its casimero's line is only 2.95 while 3.1 in pinnacle, one of the biggest sportsbook.

Thanks mate, I thought that sportsbet won't offer anything because the fight is getting closer. I would say it's a great odds.

I would agree that Casimero has been in the shadows of most Filipino boxers, but he has proven that he can go out and fight the best out of his division. If Tete is overlooking at Casimero and talking about fighting next Naoya Inoue, then he might suffer an upset here, just like when Joshua was talking about fighting Wilder next when he has his hands full in Andy Ruiz during their first fight.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

This might be an interesting fight from another Filipino boxer, knowing the stamina of a young furios pinoy fighter the chance of winning the fight is very possible. Tete's out from the ring for more than a year and this will serve as his comeback fight, while Casimero just got his last win august of this year defending his title knocking down Ramirez from Mexico.

Performance would be different on the site of Tete.If this would be some sort of comeback fight then we can really point out which one would have the edge.When it comes to stamina then i would hands down
with Casimero.

Even though this fight shouldnt really be taken carelessly or confidently yet Tete wont reach up those stats if hes not capable to take you down.The fight would vary on endurance for sure.

Both fighters will show that they are deserving that they are the champion, Tete is coming from an injury, we will see if that injury has fully healed already. Though its understandable that Casimero is the underdog of the fight but we have seen him fight and he doesn't seems easily get's intimidated, he is also a bad boy in the ring in any venue.

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Quote from: Golftech on November 28, 2019, 09:53:26 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

This might be an interesting fight from another Filipino boxer, knowing the stamina of a young furios pinoy fighter the chance of winning the fight is very possible. Tete's out from the ring for more than a year and this will serve as his comeback fight, while Casimero just got his last win august of this year defending his title knocking down Ramirez from Mexico.

Performance would be different on the site of Tete.If this would be some sort of comeback fight then we can really point out which one would have the edge.When it comes to stamina then i would hands down
with Casimero.

Even though this fight shouldnt really be taken carelessly or confidently yet Tete wont reach up those stats if hes not capable to take you down.The fight would vary on endurance for sure.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

This might be an interesting fight from another Filipino boxer, knowing the stamina of a young furios pinoy fighter the chance of winning the fight is very possible. Tete's out from the ring for more than a year and this will serve as his comeback fight, while Casimero just got his last win august of this year defending his title knocking down Ramirez from Mexico.

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Quote from: stadus on November 28, 2019, 07:41:54 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on November 28, 2019, 07:26:13 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

well you made a good decision as we are both for casimero for the fight tomorrow,the Odds really matter in this one so Goodluck for us Buddy.

This is not happening tomorrow I guess, the fight will happen in December 1, 2019.

I shared a betting odds above, you can check the link I posted.

Based on the link that you had shared I think it will be on Saturday 30th of November implying that I don't see any news about the said of the date, well maybe you can share it here for us to see,

And regarding the Tete vs Casimero fight, in my opinion, Zolani Tete will be in big trouble against John Reil Casimero, Sunny Edwards suspects that Casimero will be very dangerous for Zolani Tete he then discusses that he had seen up close how Casimero showcase his punching power and he also thinks that Casimero had a good run of forms so he got a huge advantage against Tete this upcoming fight he is not saying this just because Casimero defeated Edwards brother but his insight how disgustingly dangerous Casimero he then added.

https://www.boxingscene.com/edwards-warns-casimero-very-dangerous-zolani-tete--144100

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 28, 2019, 07:26:13 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

well you made a good decision as we are both for casimero for the fight tomorrow,the Odds really matter in this one so Goodluck for us Buddy.

This is not happening tomorrow I guess, the fight will happen in December 1, 2019.

I shared a betting odds above, you can check the link I posted.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 28, 2019, 07:05:00 AM

Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

well you made a good decision as we are both for casimero for the fight tomorrow,the Odds really matter in this one so Goodluck for us Buddy.

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Already put my bet on Casimero, not because I think he is the better fighter here but because I like his odds, Tete for me is still a better fighter, he got the height advantage but Casimero is an aggressive fighter, so there's a chance that he can knock this guy out.

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Thanks for this.

No worries man, that's what gamblers do, they help each other, Grin

Have you pulled the trigger yet?

During the game, we can also share here some live stream link or the TV channel that this fight will be televised.
according to the site https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-tete/

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 27, 2019, 05:31:09 PM

Full Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYg-VxrlJlI

Of course I'm going to support Casimero here this guy didn't get the support of majority of Filipinos because he is still relatively unknown unless you're a truly a boxing fan. I do hope that Casimero will take advantage of Tete's long inactivity and ring rust and blast the hell out of him. And Tete is already talking about facing Inoue, so it seems he is confident that he is going to win this fight, so let's see.

I have already placed my bet for Johnriel "Quadro Alas" Casimero as a support for him in this fight. I've said before that i don't expect too much from Casimero but what i like about this guy is he will not go down without a fight. It's a good thing for the Casimero camp that Tete is showing over confidence as it may backfire on him.

Quote from: stadus on November 27, 2019, 06:02:14 PM

For bettors here, line is already up in sportsbet. check the link before it's gone, lol

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/tete-zolani-casimero-johnriel-5ddcebae2836452d827baf83

Just use price boost so the odds will increase, its casimero's line is only 2.95 while 3.1 in pinnacle, one of the biggest sportsbook.

Thanks for this.

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For bettors here, line is already up in sportsbet. check the link before it's gone, lol

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/tete-zolani-casimero-johnriel-5ddcebae2836452d827baf83

Just use price boost so the odds will increase, its casimero's line is only 2.95 while 3.1 in pinnacle, one of the biggest sportsbook.

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Full Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYg-VxrlJlI

Of course I'm going to support Casimero here this guy didn't get the support of majority of Filipinos because he is still relatively unknown unless you're a truly a boxing fan. I do hope that Casimero will take advantage of Tete's long inactivity and ring rust and blast the hell out of him. And Tete is already talking about facing Inoue, so it seems he is confident that he is going to win this fight, so let's see.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 24, 2019, 07:10:41 AM

Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2019, 06:36:34 AM

Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

You can bet on this match on the following websites (at your own risk).

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/boxing/market/1.165380422
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/zolani-tete-v-john-riel-casimero-4975751

Tete is more favorite of the two.

Are those two crypto based betting site?

Yes, it looks like sportsbet.io are not going to offer any ML here. Maybe they have overlook it or just it didn't have a good response. But for me this is a good fight specially if Casimero can upset Tete here as he is far more experienced and used to fight on a hostile environment.

Not sure with sportsbet.com but I read an article that betfair do accept BTC.

Kind read this link - https://bitcoin-conference.eu/betfair-bitcoin/.... but these two sites are not really popular here ,so its hard to find someone who can share their experience. Hopefully if there's one, he will see this discussion.

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I'm sure this is going to be an uphill battle for Casimero. Zolani Tete is doubtless the favorite here. Even the stats are clearly showing this. Zolani has the height. He has the reach as well. Casimero needs to get inside and get on the body of this South African Filipino killer, before knocking him down unconscious. Casimero has to win whatever happens. This Tete has already defeated many Filipinos in his past fights, the last one was the ALA "King", Arthur Villanueva.

I'm all for Casimero on this. Zolani should have one conditioning match before this fight to fully test and regain his strength and reflexes after more than a year of inactivity. This will have an effect on him for sure. And this will highly favor the underdog Casimero.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 24, 2019, 07:10:41 AM

Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2019, 06:36:34 AM

Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

You can bet on this match on the following websites (at your own risk).

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/boxing/market/1.165380422
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/zolani-tete-v-john-riel-casimero-4975751

Tete is more favorite of the two.

Are those two crypto based betting site?

Yes, it looks like sportsbet.io are not going to offer any ML here. Maybe they have overlook it or just it didn't have a good response. But for me this is a good fight specially if Casimero can upset Tete here as he is far more experienced and used to fight on a hostile environment.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 24, 2019, 07:10:41 AM

Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2019, 06:36:34 AM

Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

You can bet on this match on the following websites (at your own risk).

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/boxing/market/1.165380422
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/zolani-tete-v-john-riel-casimero-4975751

Tete is more favorite of the two.

Great, at least we have an idea on the odds, however, I am not fan of the site especially that sportsbet.com.au... I'm using sportsbet.io,.. I don't know if the one you shared is a legit site.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on November 24, 2019, 07:10:41 AM

Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2019, 06:36:34 AM

Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

You can bet on this match on the following websites (at your own risk).

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/boxing/market/1.165380422
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/zolani-tete-v-john-riel-casimero-4975751

Tete is more favorite of the two.

I'm a fan of Casimero I have seen 3 of his fight and he is a good counter puncher he is very patient in delivering his puncher I've checked Tete's fight too and her is also a good boxer, but there are news about his injury, I think it will not matter because Pacquiao also injured his shoulder but he manages a comeback Tete's a strong favorite but I'm rooting for Casimero.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2019, 06:36:34 AM

Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

You can bet on this match on the following websites (at your own risk).

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/boxing/market/1.165380422
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/boxing/boxing-matches/zolani-tete-v-john-riel-casimero-4975751

Tete is more favorite of the two.

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Just 6 days from now, however, I still don't see an available betting line for this fight.
I search again in sportsbet but it does not show any for this event, and even in https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches.

I would be very happy to bet right away if anyone can share which betting site this fight available.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 23, 2019, 06:59:22 PM

Some update on Casimero as the fight is already near.

He is already in England via a first class flight (is this a news lol) and they contacted a Filipino restaurant there for his nutritional needs.

http://tempo.com.ph/2019/11/23/casimero-flies-to-uk-in-first-class/

Lol, that is the Casimero we all know of. He even doesn't have his own nutrition coach? Grin

Just a week to acclimatised to the weather ah, good for him. But I'm expect Casimero to give us a show here against Tete, it will be difficult for him but not impossible to upset Tete on Nov. 30.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 24, 2019, 04:01:50 AM

No doubt that Tete is a strong one but his over self confidence will eat his own words. Let's see who will gonna eat.

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 23, 2019, 06:59:22 PM

He is already in England via a first class flight (is this a news lol) and they contacted a Filipino restaurant there for his nutritional needs.

Wow, that's a first! Lol!

Leave alone the self claims by Zolani Tete, the fact is that he played his last game in October 2018 where he defected Mikhail Aloyan, but he has not played any game in between and no one can be sure of his current form. Also only in the game it will be seen how well he has recovered from shoulder injury as Casimero will surely target his injured shoulder.

That's only a week to go and this is going to be an interesting fight, I almost forgot this, I'm still betting on Casimero, this guy knows how to win a very important fight and he is used to fighting in a foreign soil, he is motivated more when he is on his opponent ground, and besides his opponent is just recovering from an injury i will bookmark this fight.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 24, 2019, 04:01:50 AM

No doubt that Tete is a strong one but his over self confidence will eat his own words. Let's see who will gonna eat.

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 23, 2019, 06:59:22 PM

He is already in England via a first class flight (is this a news lol) and they contacted a Filipino restaurant there for his nutritional needs.

Wow, that's a first! Lol!

Leave alone the self claims by Zolani Tete, the fact is that he played his last game in October 2018 where he defected Mikhail Aloyan, but he has not played any game in between and no one can be sure of his current form. Also only in the game it will be seen how well he has recovered from shoulder injury as Casimero will surely target his injured shoulder.

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No doubt that Tete is a strong one but his over self confidence will eat his own words. Let's see who will gonna eat.

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 23, 2019, 06:59:22 PM

He is already in England via a first class flight (is this a news lol) and they contacted a Filipino restaurant there for his nutritional needs.

Wow, that's a first! Lol!

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Some update on Casimero as the fight is already near.

He is already in England via a first class flight (is this a news lol) and they contacted a Filipino restaurant there for his nutritional needs.

http://tempo.com.ph/2019/11/23/casimero-flies-to-uk-in-first-class/

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Quote from: aioc on October 21, 2019, 07:13:12 AM

I consider this to be Casimero's toughest bout to date, this Tete has a wicked punch, have checked some of his knocks out victories and some of them are coming from one punch, but we all know Casimero, he has been into so many tough fights, but that long lay off will have an impact to Tete, just like what happen to Thurman, I will not going to miss this fight.

Exactly, Casimero is no stranger to big fights, this guy is a warrior. He always wanted to fight against a hostile crowd, and take the belt away from the champion. So this crowd maybe pro-Tete, but I think Casimero is battle tested already so he could get some rounds in the beginning and maybe if he can weaken Tete thru body shots, which John riel loves to throw against a taller opponent, maybe we can see him win some on judges scorecard and pull another boxing upset. But I wouldn't be surprised if he can KO Tete here as he also have a solid punch in both hands.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 21, 2019, 07:19:56 AM

Quote from: aioc on October 21, 2019, 07:13:12 AM

I consider this to be Casimero's toughest bout to date, this Tete has a wicked punch, have checked some of his knocks out victories and some of them are coming from one punch, but we all know Casimero, he has been into so many tough fights, but that long lay off will have an impact to Tete, just like what happen to Thurman, I will not going to miss this fight.

He is coming from injury so we might not see the old tete in this fight.
Regardless, I would still put my money on Casimero knowing that he can fight, have some knock out power, so this will be a tough fight for tete for sure.
Remember than Tete is the champion here, if casimero will loss, it's alright, but if he will win, the Philippines will rejoice with him.

Long lay off and coming from injury will have an impact on Tete's performance, but it will be as the fight progresses not on the ealy rounds of the fights, Casimero should see this and should take time but we all know Casimero, is a fighter who knows how to pace himself, very evident in some of his fights, this fight could go either way in terms of performance and power I don't think one fighter has an edge over the other.

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Quote from: aioc on October 21, 2019, 07:13:12 AM

I consider this to be Casimero's toughest bout to date, this Tete has a wicked punch, have checked some of his knocks out victories and some of them are coming from one punch, but we all know Casimero, he has been into so many tough fights, but that long lay off will have an impact to Tete, just like what happen to Thurman, I will not going to miss this fight.

He is coming from injury so we might not see the old tete in this fight.
Regardless, I would still put my money on Casimero knowing that he can fight, have some knock out power, so this will be a tough fight for tete for sure.
Remember than Tete is the champion here, if casimero will loss, it's alright, but if he will win, the Philippines will rejoice with him.

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I consider this to be Casimero's toughest bout to date, this Tete has a wicked punch, have checked some of his knocks out victories and some of them are coming from one punch, but we all know Casimero, he has been into so many tough fights, but that long lay off will have an impact to Tete, just like what happen to Thurman, I will not going to miss this fight.

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after his promoter Frank Warren won the purse bids.

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Looking at John Riel Casimiro's last fight against Ramirez, it mights that he his punch can sting Tete. But one noticeable though is that Casimero lacks stamina. So if this fight goes to distance, I think he can be KO by Tete in the latter rounds.

So it's going to be very interesting in the first half of this fight, it will be very competitive in the beginning, but Casimero might fade in the latter specially in the championships round.

On the other hand, this will be Tete's fight coming back from a shoulder injury, so we don't know if he is the same prior to the injury and there could be ring rust as well.

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Professional boxing records update for these both great boxer;
Zolani Tete has 1 LOST advantage since John Riel Casimero has already 4 lost while Zolani Tete has 3 lost.
Zolani Tete has also the advantage on height and reach against John Riel Casimero. Well, this fight is still exciting since they are both has the experienced (almost the same quantity of total fights).

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 20, 2019, 05:20:57 AM

I'm sure majority of Filipino fans knows who Casimero is, the fighter who beat Argentinian Lazarte in 2012 in Argentina and soon after that riot occured inside the ring and thankfully Casimero and his team was also get out out alive hiding under the the boxing arena itself. One of the worst riots you will ever see in boxing, resulting in Lazarte and his team banned by IBF after that incident.

I have watched that fight in Argentina in Youtube and man, they are lucky to get out alive on that venue.

Casimero is one of those boxers that i follow, he got that power but seems that this boxer lack the discipline a boxer should have. He is a member of Omega boxing club in Cebu and got to watched his fight live in Cebu, entertaining though his talent seems raw until this point in time of his career.

I don't expect too much from him on this fight as Tete is a legit champion.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 20, 2019, 05:27:35 AM

Casimero is a good fighter but if we base these two boxers, Tete has a slight edge in terms of power. I like casimero to win this one though.

I will also go for Casimero, watching his previous fight and I'm confident that he will over power Tete. Though bought of then are a good fighter with the winning records but since Casimero is a great fighter with a great strategies I believe he will win again. He will be a good challenger on this match, and we will see a big fight again and hopefully a more safe surroundings for Casimero and his team.

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I watched some of his highlights of Casimero and this guy is a bad boy in boxing.
Tete on the other hand is also a great fighter so them fighting against each other will surely bring a quality fight comes the fight now.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27860592/healthy-zolani-tete-defend-title-john-riel-casimero

Casimero is the challenger so I'll pick the challenger as it has a better betting odds.
Was checking in my book and it's not yet available.

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This will be Casimero's chance to prove that he is a legit champion.
If he can win this fight, maybe we can see him fight good fighters in the US.

Tete is suppose to be fighting against Donaire in a tournament but he was injured, now he will again be facing a filipino boxer as he recovered from injury.
This is surely a great fight, whoever wins actually but I'll give my support to the Filipino boxer here.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 20, 2019, 08:38:54 AM

This is a match worth watching Tete is coming our of injury and long lay off, but he is a natural bantam and Casimero is putting more weight for this fight, Tete is a hard puncher I have just watched some of his knock out victory and he is a very dominating fighter, both fighters are slugger, definitely this is going to be a slug fest, it's an even match, the winner will be the one who's more prepared.

Ok, just what I thought, so he is coming back from a injury and most fighters will have what they call ring ring. One example is Keith Thurman when he fought Josesito Lopez and he didn't look very good at that fight, although he won it. Casimero is also a hard puncher so I would agree that this is going to be a bang, as both fighters are very aggressive. One advantage of Tete is his height and reach so let's see how Casimero will neutralized that. Of course, the winner will be the fighter that prepared very hard and this fight and the fighter who has more heart and desire to wn.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 20, 2019, 05:27:35 AM

Casimero is a good fighter but if we base these two boxers, Tete has a slight edge in terms of power. I like casimero to win this one though.

I agree Tete has an edge over him in terms of power and reach. The age gap between the two is one year. There is also a good height difference between both. Tete is 31 and 5"9 whereas Casimero is 32 and 5"4. None the less it will be an interesting fight.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 20, 2019, 05:27:35 AM

Casimero is a good fighter but if we base these two boxers, Tete has a slight edge in terms of power. I like casimero to win this one though.

Zolani Tete will be the favorite when he will enter the ring on 30th November in Birmingham. He will defend his title however in his last fight he had an shoulder injury which he say has been fully recovered. It will be hard for the Casimero to match him if he, tete, is in his full form.

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This is a match worth watching Tete is coming our of injury and long lay off, but he is a natural bantam and Casimero is putting more weight for this fight, Tete is a hard puncher I have just watched some of his knock out victory and he is a very dominating fighter, both fighters are slugger, definitely this is going to be a slug fest, it's an even match, the winner will be the one who's more prepared.

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This fight will be on November 30 I think there is much time for the two of them to prepare for their fight and even if Zolani Tete had his Injury maybe it will hardly heal eventually before their game, I really want to support my fellow men but looking at Tete's Stats he's got a good records with his KO's a good reach and height, but even though there are some advantage on Zolani Tete, in my opinion, I think both have the same striking power so I'll take my luck betting on John Riel Casimero on this.

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This is a good match up definitely worth watching, it's about even in terms of power and experience, but Casimero has a slight edge because Tete is coming from a very long lay off and injury, While Casimero is very active coming up from a knockout win, I'll go for Casimero because of the ege I've mentioned.

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Yes, I still remember that melee in Argentina soil, Lazarte even threaten the referee if I'm not mistaken.

Do we have the odds though? For me it looks like 50/50, Tete is good boxer no doubt about that, but Casimero is one hell of a fighter as well. And it's very interesting that Frank Warren won the purse bid, lot of hype around Casimero before, specially it was around that time the Filipino has lots of belts in different weight divisions, but I don't know what happen to his career. So I hope this will be his another road for him to be in the boxing discussion again.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 20, 2019, 05:27:35 AM

Casimero is a good fighter but if we base these two boxers, Tete has a slight edge in terms of power. I like casimero to win this one though.

Casimero may face the hardest fight of His career from this south african boxer,from Record and the reached i think the Filipino boxer don't have the advantage on this one i hope in any chance Casimero will find ways to beat this Tete
but even if what happens my Bet of course for my fellow Coutryman .
my Prayers and wishes may be with Him

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Casimero is a good fighter but if we base these two boxers, Tete has a slight edge in terms of power. I like casimero to win this one though.

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Zolani Tete (28-3, 21KOs) makes the fourth defence of his WBO World Bantamweight title against John Riel Casimero after his promoter Frank Warren won the purse bids.

It will be Tete’s first fight since October 2018 when he defeated Russia’s Mikhail Aloyan in the World Boxing Super Series. Unfortunately injury then ruled him out of the tournament.

“I have fully recovered from the shoulder injury and I will be testing it on Casimero's chin. I am back,” warned the South African.

Filipino Casimero (28-4,19KOs) stopped Charlie Edwards in a IBF Flyweight title defence here in 2016 and is brimming after capturing the Interim WBO crown.

I'm sure majority of Filipino fans knows who Casimero is, the fighter who beat Argentinian Lazarte in 2012 in Argentina and soon after that riot occured inside the ring and thankfully Casimero and his team was also get out out alive hiding under the the boxing arena itself. One of the worst riots you will ever see in boxing, resulting in Lazarte and his team banned by IBF after that incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNXY3JlVNc

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