Topic: Boy, 12, opens fire on transgender woman in possible hate crime (Read 2217 times)

this is absolutely inconceivable . I hope the shooter faces the justice he deserves. These hate crimes need to stop.

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Stay classy, hate-monger.

And how many of these are practicing Christians? With the exception of a few states (such as Utah and Idaho), the vast majority of the American population is either non-religious, or non-practicing. These people might identify themselves as Christian. But that doesn't mean that they are church going (i.e practicing) Christians.

Nice to know, the hypocrisy is still strong in you.

I know he's a christian because he's an ignorant violent LGBTQ-hating fucktard from redneck-ass hyper-christian south Florida.

Anyone familiar with Florida knows the same.

"Gun control" works, while armed LGBTQs don't get bashed.

Blame the boy's upbringing. He must have grown up around a lot of very hateful people and learned that spiteful behavior from them.

there is no reason to shoot at someone for simply living their fucking lives. I just don't understand how people can be so hateful about things that do not affect them in the slightest.

Yep. The assumption is strong with this one. Even if your stats are correct (and you might want to double check your math there because all of those percentages add up to 106%) then that still leaves plenty of room for this kid to not be a Christian. And I shudder to think that the kid could possibly even be an atheist! But I guess only in your narrow, hate-filled mind that atheists just aren't capable of such a thing.

You really don't make yourself look good here, you know? Judging a person by what you assume is their religion...

I mean it's stupid the kid shot at the person, but you're ready to hate on him because of his religion (that you assume he is) when you don't know he isn't atheist. You would hate it if someone discriminated against a transgender or homosexual because they assumed something about them based on that or stats alone. Now, tell me, how are you not a hypocrite?

-84% christian state
-Boy lives with grandmother
-Elderly people are far more religious than younger americans
-Shouting homophobic slurs

Yeah, the evidence for Christian hate-crime sure is weak here. 

Oh no! This incident happened in the vicinity of Church street! Yep, that settles it. The kid was definitely a Christian. That's a stretch even for your hate-filled self.

Lol.

You still don't get it. You're labeling people as Christian and you don't even know them. You're making generalizations, (whether backed on stats or not), that make you pissed off at this boy because of his religion and he may be an atheist.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

I never said they were. But this homophobe is.

Not all homophobes are Christian.

It's South Florida, that's how I know. Also, there's this:

"The 25-year-old victim said the child chased her down the street shortly after midnight in the area of Church Street and Rio Grande Avenue, which is near the Citrus Bowl, while firing shots and yelling threats and homophobic slurs at her, investigators said. Seven shots were fired. The boy lives with his grandmother, Josephine Felder"

Florida religious breakdown:

Christian:
Protestant, 40%
Roman Catholic, 26%
Baptist, 9%
Methodist, 6%
Pentecostal, 3%
---------
Non-christian:
Jewish, 3%
other religions, 3%
non-religious, 16%

In this case, the feakshow didn't got shot, as the boy was not too experienced with using the firearms. Here is the transgender creature who was allegedly targeted by the 12-year old kid:



And it seems that the perpetrator was also African-American. Else, the mainstream media would have been shouting White-on-Black crime by now.

Valid point...but, would you as a parent allow your 12 year old access to a gun or raise him to consider using one on another person?

If you even thought he was mentally challenged or unstable, would you not pay close attention and seek help?

Not sure we can blame the parents here. It looks like two people with mental disorders had an altercation. Both mental disorders may have had a parental influence factor, but how much would be hard to judge without more information.

Does anyone even stop to think about the circumstances involved in a 12 yr. old thinking he should shoot at someone because they are trans? Actually to shoot at ANYBODY?

Me thinks this Kids parents have more issues than even he does, and are the truly guilty party. From the comments in this thread it seems likely many with children here will be making more of these "Wonderful" kids.

We spoke to the 12-year-old’s grandmother. She said her grandson snuck out of the house Thursday night through a window.

She said he has been taking medications since 2009.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/7/31/orlando_boy_accused_.html

There it is again! The poor kid was probably molested by an adult at school and that combined with the medications for 6 years.

He was arrested on charges of attempted murder and grand theft of a firearm, police said. He's expected to face a judge Saturday in juvenile court.
West was not injured, but she said it wasn’t the first time she had been shot it. In January 2014, she said someone opened fire, hitting her in the leg several times.
No arrests were made in the case, and she believes it was also a hate crime.

He was talking to someone on the phone and telling the person on the phone he was going to kill her was way I read it

Looks like God was looking out for her.... and the haters say God hates gays, ever bullet missed, it's a miracle

"Trendy"

WTF? How the hell do you arrive at that word?

Beyond a Halloween costume, where are straights "trending" to transgender?

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She said she was running for her life, but when she realized the shooter was out of bullets, she turned around and began chasing him.

"I was going to beat him if I would've caught him," she said.
"

that is one for worlds stupidest criminals, too bad no video

the would be killers name was "Joseph Smith".... that to is funny

We don't know if it's a hate crime or not. That has yet to be determined.

from the story

The woman, identified as Andrew West,

it's a dude. How is this a hate crime?

if only we had a law against stolen guns this crime never would have happened... errr wait...

if only we had a law against 12 year olds with gun this crime never would have happened... errr wait...

if only we had a law about gun free zones this crime never would have happened... errr wait...

if only we had parents, this never would have happened... close enough...

so a 12 year old, out at midnight, with a stolen gun, talking to people he thinks are women... probably was a little stunned when he just found out, not all women are women... and probably mouthed off a little more than he already had at this point, and I'm sure at this point the woman mouthed off a little more than she already has... and this goes back and forth a few times to see who has the bigger penis... then the 12 year old pulls his out and starts shooting it at her, amazing he couldn't even get a single bullet on target if he "emptied the clip"... and then after she thinks its empty, suddenly she turns around to attack him...

in what world does this happen... how do people continue to act like this... there are so many things wrong with all this I don't know where to begin...

my only question I guess, how will this be handled by the district attorney, another slap on the wrist and he's out in a few months due to over crowding in the juvenile system which is leading them to make plea deals and short sentences to handle the issue in these cities? and has he already been in the system, I mean kids don't go from normal 12 year olds to carrying stolen guns around without doing dozens of crimes in between leading up this serious behavior...

I feel a long rant coming, I better stop...

Stop right there, this whole case has suspicious circumstances all over it , that led me to believe it was a setup.

Hate crime you say? How does one avoid a hate crime unless he only shoots at people he loves?

Freakshow gets shot at and its the start of a "hate crime" epidemic.

Thousands of White people attacked by feral Blacks in a self-described game and liberalism calls anybody who wants to talk about it a racist.

Please give me a good reason why I should care about trannys being the targets of hate when liberalism doesn't care that White people are also targets of hate.

The kid missed because either wasn't familiar with the gun, because he was just given it by someone or he missed because of that or he wanted to miss..

"She said"? Lemme tell you something..That there is no "she"
That there is an OBT streetwalker.
Who knows the circumstances around him getting shot at?
How do they know the kid was 12?
What does that say to all these people pushing..crazy gender stuff?
Maybe the kid thought it was wrong.
I might go "eyew..looks what's on OBT"
doesn't mean I'm trying to beat or shoot 'em though.

The perpetrator could be a Christian, could be a Muslim or a Jew, or even an Atheist. So before spewing your venom out, give evidence to prove that the kid was a Christian. And considering that this incident has occurred in Orlando (where only around one-third of the younger population is non-Hispanic white), my suspicion is that the perpetrator was either a Latino or an African American.

You got a source for that, Emperor? Because...



EDIT: acs beat me to it 

I view some of the ideals in Christianity wrong, but that doesn't mean he's automatically a Christian due to a hate crime. There's other religions with similar ideals.


The fact that you said 'in my opinion' before it automatically makes that argument invalid.

You don't know he's Christian.

Please explain how you aren't hypocritical.

It is unlikely to see newbies posting news around the board. I usually see old users posting news like this. Doesn't matter much to me though. Too bad he missed lol.

IMO, far more crimes are being commited by the transgenders than those which are directed towards them.


New gender? That is the problem. Gender is not something which can't be invented.


They are very vocal, and they considers themselves to be a privileged group. This causes irritation for the others.


 

It's pretty obvious someone must have put him up to it, don't know about the gun, but you know how some families can be about making sure their children follow their intolerent bullshit.

So the owner of the gun should be charged as well.
Whose gun did the kid pinch?

So we should just kill people that don't live the same as you?  What kind of psychopathic bullshit is that? 


The fact that this is a 12 year old with a gun is really fucky.  Normally I'd say it's a shame she didn't have something to shoot back with, but honestly wondering if somebody put them up to this or what. 

"The woman, identified as Andrew West..."

This has gotten beyond ridiculous

Anyone else find it interesting that this is posted by a complete newb?

shame he missed

This is a strange story considering the boy is a minor, but its good to hear that no one was hurt.
That said the story does seem fishy considering shes been shot at before

West was not injured, but she said it wasn’t the first time she had been shot at. In January 2014, she said someone opened fire, hitting her in the leg several times

Something smells fishy, but I'm glad Andrew didn't get hurt physically, though I could emotional hurt being a problem....  

number #2 thinking here.. why did he miss? was this whole shooting ATTEMPT a ploy trick on us.. why did the kid mention /telegraph to her what he was going to do? why not say anything and just walk up and shoot the trans women in the back point blank.? did someone or her give the kid that gun, and say: lets not shoot her. miss on purpose. lets play art of war deception here and make the news. promoting sympathy for her on the media

ok lets see here thinking cap on now.. looks like a hit attempt, why was it was down town area location ?
how did a 12 year old get a pistol and was in downtown area? someone gave him the gun and told him to do it..

what that he missed?

ORLANDO, Fla. —

A 12-year-old arrested in connection with a shooting in Orlando could soon be charged with a hate crime.

A 26-year-old transgender woman said she was chased down the street and shot at several times just before midnight Thursday, police said.

The woman, identified as Andrew West, told police that the child emptied the gun while firing, but missed every time.

West said the boy was on the phone and that she heard him say, "I'm going to kill this (expletive)," before opening fire.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/crime-law/12-year-old-accused-shooting-transgender-woman/nm939/

A 12 y.o. boy opens fire on transgender woman but misses.
That's not good. There are many cases of hate crimes towards transgender people. It seems like not everyone can accept all those new genders and it's only the beginning. Transgenders are surely a pretty vocal group of people but they are not numerous. Soon it will be very trendy to change your gender and it will result in more crimes cause there will be always people who can't accept them.