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PAX Pen (by Ploom) Purchase From 'culexevilman' Review

Overall Rating: 4.5 out of 5

Smoking (4/5): It makes for great conservation of freshly ground tobacco, making amounts last longer than when burning them. The vapor comes through airy and light with a nice taste to it. However, the mouthpiece can get pretty hot after a couple of hits, and can be rather uncomfortable at times.

Hardware (4/5): The PAX Pen offers 3 different temperature settings with the push of a button, and the magnetic lid on the bottom for the holding chamber that is easily removed. Quick turn on/off just by pressing the pen mouthpiece down; this makes for easy storage of the pen, and leaves the mouthpiece in a somewhat protected position when turned off.  However, at times it can take a while between hits for the pen to be ready again. In my personal experience since I’ve received the unit I preferred the orange or red setting.

Ease of use (5/5): After turning it on the PAX Pen warms up pretty quick for first use, and your herbs are easily changed between sessions, due to the quick access magnetic lid. The temperature settings are easily indicated by 3 different colored lights when changing. The User Guide provided with the PAX Pen makes getting ready for the first time you use it easy; the instructions provide simple instructions coupled with pictures.

Other (5/5): The PAX Pen comes with a 10 year warranty from retail purchase date, however, culexevilman is offering a 2 year warranty. The PAX is easily disassembled for quick cleaning through the use of a small pipe cleaner and a dab of alcohol. A cool little feature is included to show battery level; just by shaking the PAX Pen you will receive an indicator light of battery level. When the battery is low, you just set it on the provided charging dock. You can typically get through a day on a single charge of the PAX, with a regular smokers usage (possibly two charges for heavy smokers). Received the PAX Pen quickly from culexevilman - came within a week of ordering.


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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
Can you confirm that these units have party mode?

Edited for wrong link

No party mode on these, a easter egg that was programmed by Ploom engineers. All other function LED lights and modes are the same.



Clarify me if I am wrong, but how would these be authentic if they don't have the easter egg programmed by Ploom developers? Does that not act as a dead giveaway that a neat feature unique to the machine is missing; therefore, the product is most likely fake?

While we're at it, can you expand on how you got these products?


Hi, this is an OEM version,simply put its units that had slipped outside of the factory avoided to "quality controls", most factory does this unofficially in many of these manufacturing deals. Simply the quality of the units will tell that these are great deals, definitely not the cheap low end imitation crap. Pictures are actual units. I will provide after sales warranty for non-user induced defects and such.


This does not give a clear, concise idea of where these items come from. "Its units that had slipped outside of the factory avoided to 'quality controls?' What? So does this 'fact' act as a cover for the illegitimate acquisition of these PAX - Ploom units?

so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

This guy, in my opinion, hit the nail on the head. These PAX units were not "Fallen off the truck" or whatever to the B.S. "quality controls" [sic] are. One person cannot undercut the actual manufacturer (straight from the source!!) by 100$.

If the quality of these counterfeits is high, then you can expect the product to function well; however, you cant tell without some person falling victim and letting us know, or that same person getting a superb product.

All in all, this thread will probably be deleted due to infringement of intellectual property.

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it's worth the $250 for the 10 year warranty. You wont get that from a chinese knockoff.

What if the company is not around in ten years? Roll Eyes

I will be around for two years for sure.
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it's worth the $250 for the 10 year warranty. You wont get that from a chinese knockoff.

Most Chinese have a 12-18 month return for everything. Besides if you live in a place like FL, you cant exactly bring your illegal device to be replaced.

True, its not like they build it themselves, they designed it, its still build by the chinese factory and chinese parts made in china, keep that in mind. I think the warranty can be alot more better than the actual company sometimes
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it's worth the $250 for the 10 year warranty. You wont get that from a chinese knockoff.

Most Chinese have a 12-18 month return for everything. Besides if you live in a place like FL, you cant exactly bring your illegal device to be replaced.
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it's worth the $250 for the 10 year warranty. You wont get that from a chinese knockoff.
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I'd be willing to grab a bunch next month if there was a way to validate the authenticity. 

I'm sure a review by farlack would help that process since he seems to have experience in e-cigs and vapes.

I think that would be a good idea. Smiley

Haha I'll gladly check it out, I have an authentic one to compare it to.

Regardless if its a clone or not $150 is a steal if its good quality. Spending the extra $100 to get "authentic" is only about bragging rights. I've talked to many people who have clone ecig parts, and some work better than the authentic.
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I'd be willing to grab a bunch next month if there was a way to validate the authenticity. 

I'm sure a review by farlack would help that process since he seems to have experience in e-cigs and vapes.

I think that would be a good idea. Smiley
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I'd be willing to grab a bunch next month if there was a way to validate the authenticity. 

I'm sure a review by farlack would help that process since he seems to have experience in e-cigs and vapes.
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
Mainly due to the fact your price is way to cheap.  Everything in the vape world is cloned on a massive scale. I can get you these same things for $60 each. I sell Ecig things that have authentication keys that pass but are clone. The Chinese are just good at making counterfeits lol.


Maybe Ploom charges too much? LOL Anyways, everything is made in China these days, as far as counterfeits go, most are just cheap imitations, but there are real deals out there, you just have to look harder.
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
Mainly due to the fact your price is way to cheap.  Everything in the vape world is cloned on a massive scale. I can get you these same things for $60 each. I sell Ecig things that have authentication keys that pass but are clone. The Chinese are just good at making counterfeits lol.
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
Can you confirm that these units have party mode?

Edited for wrong link

No party mode on these, a easter egg that was programmed by Ploom engineers. All other function LED lights and modes are the same.

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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
Can you confirm that these units have party mode?

Edited for wrong link
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

Hi, would you care to share why they are not authentic? Thanks. I think these are great. Made by the same factory that is making the Pax by Ploom thats being shipped to Ploom. Frankly they just make it in secret and off the book.

I guess it makes it not OFFICIAL made by Ploom, rather I am in a agreement with Maidak, going to send a sample unit to Maidak and see what he thinks about the authenticity of these.

Culex
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.

I think a lot of sellers of these products would have success if they just admitted, they are not made by PAX themselves. They are amazing clones. They work pretty much the same. Just made by different people, but same specifications.
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool

Sorry but I read through the thread, but these are not authentic. There are no "Fell off the truck" things... And they're not going to give a discount because the box has a ding on it. They would take the pax out of the box, and put it in a new box, not lose $150 over a scratch on the box.

Now that being said if this post isn't deleted..

I've talked to a bunch of people who had pax clones. If you have a good clone its 9/10 as good as an authentic. Save the $100 from retail and grab this one.
legendary
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?

These are the real deal my friends, I was gonna sell these at 199 USD, but then again just feels good to give back to the bitcoin community that has given me so much in the past. I personally have my life changed thanks to bitcoin. Cool
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so it looks like these are real authentic then?
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what are the are color differences between the LED when charging, using, temp settings?

Also do you have to pull out the mouth piece to charge it?

Hi, the video review shows me charging the Pax with the mouthpiece on.

and regarding the color LED's, these works as the following.

Taken straight from Ploom's website.
http://www.ploom.com/led-indicator-touchpoint-faqs

Power On


Click the mouthpiece to turn your PAX on! It will pulse purple while heating, and then shine green to indicate having reached your desired temperature.

Standby Mode


PAX has an on-board accelerometer! If your PAX sits still for 20 seconds then it will go into standby mode, which is indicated by a blue LED light. Pick up your PAX again and it will heat up to your selected temperature setting. If the device sits still for 3 minutes then it will shut off to conserve battery life. A bumpy car ride is enough motion to keep the device awake!

Battery Level


Click the mouthpiece to turn your PAX on, then shake it to show the remaining battery life. 3 blinking green lights indicate a full or mostly-full battery, yellow indicates adequate battery remaining, and red indicates a low battery.

Charging


Your PAX will fully charge in roughly two hours. Your PAX will shine orange while on the charging dock until it reaches 80% full, at which point it will shine green. The remaining 20% will charge at a slower rate. You can't overcharge your battery! PAX was designed with smart technology to prevent overcharging!

Temperature Settings


You can adjust your temperature setting by removing the mouthpiece and pressing the white button on the body of the PAX. The LED light on the front of your PAX will change colors to indicate the selected temperature. Yellow represents low (370f), orange represents medium (390f), and red represents high (410f). Start low and gradually increase the temperature to make the most of your material!
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what are the are color differences between the LED when charging, using, temp settings?

Also do you have to pull out the mouth piece to charge it?
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I did the e-cig thing for a little while a few months I broke away from it though. Is this more or less just a vape for the 420 friendly folk? I couldn't find but 1 tobacco related product for this item.

Well, most of my buyers are discrete 420 folks. I think its great for tobacco as well. Think this is a great deal for everyone, either self-use or reselling.
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I did the e-cig thing for a little while a few months I broke away from it though. Is this more or less just a vape for the 420 friendly folk? I couldn't find but 1 tobacco related product for this item.
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I did my research and these seem to be like the real deal ladies and gentlemen.
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Updated with better photos. Roll Eyes
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Give me sometime, package incoming next-day. Smiley
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Could you take a picture of the serial and the serial underneath the mouthpiece if possible?

Also take a picture when it is heated up and ready light is on, if that is all good I would like one.
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Self Moderated topic to, smells fishy allthough if these were legit it would be a great deal.
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I really doubt these are authentic. Everyone should take a look at the below link.

http://www.ploom.com/news/fake-Pax-comparison/


Seller, please provide proof these are real based on the above link. Thanks
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So the OP said they were taken out by quality control, does that mean they are defective?  That would kinda kill it for something like this...  Also, escrow?

They are NOT defective, maybe the outer-box have some blemishes, or bumps, nothing that would interfere with actual units cosmetics and operations. Escrow is welcome, I would use Ognasty or others we both agreed upon. Buyer pays escrow fees.
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So you said they were taken out by quality control, does that mean they are defective?  That would kinda kill it for something like this...  Also, escrow?
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HI,
How much for shipping to Bulgaria? How long it will take to deliver to here?
And also what with this one year guarantee? If the vap brokes I can deliver it back to you for free or what?
Thanks

Hi,the prices includes shipping anywhere in the world, will take about 7-14 days depends on your location and customs, with the guarantee, within one year, if its not damaged by user induced damages, then you are entitled for free repairs and replacement minus shipping costs.
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HI,
How much for shipping to Bulgaria? How long it will take to deliver to here?
And also what with this one year guarantee? If the vap brokes I can deliver it back to you for free or what?
Thanks
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OK then I want to buy it will you send me payment details please? I will paylitecoin in approx 8 hours time.

pm'ed, also 9 buyers left for the limited time 10% off all orders.
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OK then I want to buy it will you send me payment details please? I will paylitecoin in approx 8 hours time.
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OK well my question is this. If I pay now than when will I get it in France?

With EMS is about 3-5 days from Taiwan to France, International Parcel is 7-14 days, I am still waiting for the shipment to arrive here, theres only one black available. You should get it within  the end of next week if everything is going according to plan.
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OK well my question is this. If I pay now than when will I get it in France?
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I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?

Hi, this is an OEM version,simply put its units that had slipped outside of the factory avoided to "quality controls", most factory does this unofficially in many of these manufacturing deals. Simply the quality of the units will tell that these are great deals, definitely not the cheap low end imitation crap. Pictures are actual units. I will provide after sales warranty for non-user induced defects and such.


Ploom offers 10 year warranty, how long will your warranty last?

Since obviously I can't compete with their 10 year warranty, who knows if they will be around? But I will offer a two year warranty on my products sold, although you are still able to get it repaired, but buyer is responsible for shipping after one year period.

Hi Mate will you accept LTC? when is the expected delivery?


Hi there LTC is accepted of course. However there's a surcharge of 0.5% fee to process litecoin payments.
The shipment for first batch is underway, but there's a lot of local demand for these too, so majority of the units are going to those who preordered with me locally. If you would like orders shipped straight to you from factory without coming to me first, there's could be extra shipping cost or taxes though, as shipping costs is out of my hands.
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Hi Mate will you accept LTC? when is the expected delivery?
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I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?

Hi, this is an OEM version,simply put its units that had slipped outside of the factory avoided to "quality controls", most factory does this unofficially in many of these manufacturing deals. Simply the quality of the units will tell that these are great deals, definitely not the cheap low end imitation crap. Pictures are actual units. I will provide after sales warranty for non-user induced defects and such.


Ploom offers 10 year warranty, how long will your warranty last?
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I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?

Hi, this is an OEM version,simply put its units that had slipped outside of the factory avoided to "quality controls", most factory does this unofficially in many of these manufacturing deals. Simply the quality of the units will tell that these are great deals, definitely not the cheap low end imitation crap. Pictures are actual units. I will provide after sales warranty for non-user induced defects and such.

I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?
Ditto for being interested, but nervous to buy after seeing all the fake Pax's out there

I am waiting for shipment to arrive and then preparing some more detailed photo for your viewing pleasure.
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I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?
Ditto for being interested, but nervous to buy after seeing all the fake Pax's out there
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I'm really interested in this. How can you offer the PAX for $149 when it retails for $250 from Ploom? Is it 100% genuine? I know you don't offer refunds, but what if the pax simply stops working? Am I out of luck?
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