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^^^ And that's as close to anything good they have. The bad side is here - https://openvaers.com/. But it's actually at least 10x worse than this.

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I've seen data in certain areas showing that more than 3/4's of hospital visits relating to Covid are from vaccinated individuals.

Even if this is the case, it's difficult to determine any meaningful conclusion. Obviously it depends on what proportion of the population have been vaccinated, and which people have been vaccinated. If for example 80% of people have been vaccinated, you'd expect vaccinated people to still make up a sizeable proportion of hospital patients. And what if only 20% of people have been vaccinated, but because vaccinations start with the most vulnerable people, this 20% is overwhelmingly old, infirm and immunocompromised people... in this case, even though it's only 20%, and even if the vaccines are highly (but not 100%) effective, you'd still expect the majority of patients to have been vaccinated, just because of who they are.

I'm not forming any conclusion here, just recommending caution in attributing reasons for a thing when there are other factors to consider.


There was data out of Israel that implied the Pfizer vaccine wasn't doing too well against the delta variant meaning some people still got infected, but the number of hospitalization and deaths were so low because if you got infected, you had maybe a mild cold at best, or a moderate flu at worst.

So it is possible that the vaccinated are going into hospitals with the delta variant because of low vaccine efficacy, but their outcome is a whole lot better.

Now, if you are vaccinated and obese, maybe give your immune system a break and drop some weight, because the fringe studies on vaccine efficacy are implying only a 30% efficacy rate against the delta variant. Not great odds.
It is true for the effectiveness of the Pfizer / Bionontech vaccine in the face of the Covid-19 Delta variant now only has a success rate of 39% to 40%. But the Pfizer vaccine is still very effective to prevent Covid-19 patients to experience severe symptoms. With the effectiveness of 88 percent prevent people hospitalized and 91 percent prevent severe symptoms. The same data also shows that the immune response produced by the PFIZER vaccine does not last long. In the conclusion it is better to be vaccinated if it can help.
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I've seen data in certain areas showing that more than 3/4's of hospital visits relating to Covid are from vaccinated individuals.

Even if this is the case, it's difficult to determine any meaningful conclusion. Obviously it depends on what proportion of the population have been vaccinated, and which people have been vaccinated. If for example 80% of people have been vaccinated, you'd expect vaccinated people to still make up a sizeable proportion of hospital patients. And what if only 20% of people have been vaccinated, but because vaccinations start with the most vulnerable people, this 20% is overwhelmingly old, infirm and immunocompromised people... in this case, even though it's only 20%, and even if the vaccines are highly (but not 100%) effective, you'd still expect the majority of patients to have been vaccinated, just because of who they are.

I'm not forming any conclusion here, just recommending caution in attributing reasons for a thing when there are other factors to consider.


There was data out of Israel that implied the Pfizer vaccine wasn't doing too well against the delta variant meaning some people still got infected, but the number of hospitalization and deaths were so low because if you got infected, you had maybe a mild cold at best, or a moderate flu at worst.

So it is possible that the vaccinated are going into hospitals with the delta variant because of low vaccine efficacy, but their outcome is a whole lot better.

Now, if you are vaccinated and obese, maybe give your immune system a break and drop some weight, because the fringe studies on vaccine efficacy are implying only a 30 percent efficacy rate against the delta variant. Not great odds.
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I've seen data in certain areas showing that more than 3/4's of hospital visits relating to Covid are from vaccinated individuals.

Even if this is the case, it's difficult to determine any meaningful conclusion. Obviously it depends on what proportion of the population have been vaccinated, and which people have been vaccinated. If for example 80% of people have been vaccinated, you'd expect vaccinated people to still make up a sizeable proportion of hospital patients. And what if only 20% of people have been vaccinated, but because vaccinations start with the most vulnerable people, this 20% is overwhelmingly old, infirm and immunocompromised people... in this case, even though it's only 20%, and even if the vaccines are highly (but not 100%) effective, you'd still expect the majority of patients to have been vaccinated, just because of who they are.

I'm not forming any conclusion here, just recommending caution in attributing reasons for a thing when there are other factors to consider.
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That's not actually what he was talking about. He was talking about a small number of cases if you watch the full clip, the data is clear that the unvaccinated are the people getting infected and spreading this. Though, he also mentions that 78 percent of people in the ICU are obese, which is generally correct.

Not too much advocation for losing weight among the Covid hysteria crowd. If I were a public health expert, my first concern would be to get people vaccinated, but if vaccines continue to lose efficacy, might be time to tell people to hop on the treadmill.

The data I have seen is not clear that it's the unvaccinated spreading Covid...  In fact, I've seen data in certain areas showing that more than 3/4's of hospital visits relating to Covid are from vaccinated individuals.  I would say to hop on the treadmill first before injecting yourself with experimental drugs, but I guess being in basic shape with some regular fitness is something we only mandate for our children these days?  Maybe instead of mandatory vaccinations to go outside, we should start requiring people to run a 1/3 of a mile every day and drink 2 glasses of water.  I think that would be much more effective than the vaccines for overall society, wouldn't cost us trillions of dollars while debasing our currency, and is a pretty damn simple thing for human beings to be able to do.  If not, you need to exercise more than anyone.
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That's not actually what he was talking about. He was talking about a small number of cases if you watch the full clip, the data is clear that the unvaccinated are the people getting infected and spreading this. Though, he also mentions that 78 percent of people in the ICU are obese, which is generally correct.

Not too much advocation for losing weight among the Covid hysteria crowd. If I were a public health expert, my first concern would be to get people vaccinated, but if vaccines continue to lose efficacy, might be time to tell people to hop on the treadmill.
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Can you link the "peer reviewed" studies that the articles mentions that Joe Rogan read from because all that article does is suck the dick of Joe Rogan on when he started and how successful he has become little mention to the important claim of these breakthrough covid cases.


I don't know that I could find what you are asking for. However, nobody has ever seen a virus jump from one person to another. Everybody knows that most viruses die off after a few minutes outside their host, in the atmosphere. The CDC is saying that they know that thousands of people are dying from the vaccine. You don't need to see the studies to know that something is wrong with the whole official story.

Watch the video at the linked site.


Here Comes the Famines, Jabs and Covaids Walmart FEMA Camps



"Sure. No problem, Bill. We work for the same agency. We're all in this together. But if I give you thousands of flu-death numbers, I want something back. A piece of your COVID research funding. Our flu money these days would barely bankroll a junket for a dozen of us to the Bahamas."

"My poor cousin. Transferring research funds is tricky. Too many eyeballs involved. Tell you what. How about a steak and lobster dinner, two nights at a local hotel, and one of the hookers who sits at the bar?"

"Three nights, all expenses paid."

"Done."

John Rappaport does a great job in his blog No More Fake News, to lay out the case for turning flu into Covaids – complete with the 1980s repackaging of malnutrition, hunger, starvation, toxic vaccines, grinding poverty, war, fertile farm land stolen from the people by major agricultural corporations and toxic medical drugs…all nicely tied up with a red ribbon as a new disease caused by a new virus…HIV.

Rappaport explains that in each of his studies of every so-called high-risk group for AIDS he found that all the "AIDS symptoms" could be explained by non-viral causes.

"At that point, I realized I was looking at a classic intelligence-agency-type covert operation, applied within the medical universe. The virus was the cover story. It was being used to hide ongoing government and corporate crimes. For example—forced starvation."

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Can you link the "peer reviewed" studies that the articles mentions that Joe Rogan read from because all that article does is suck the dick of Joe Rogan on when he started and how successful he has become little mention to the important claim of these breakthrough covid cases.
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As the world finds out through professionals Joe talks to, that the vaccines are causing Covid rather than stopping it, it's turning into a fight between so-called government leaders and the people.

Go to the below, and watch the Jo Rogan Podcast, the 4th most popular podcast in the world. Check out the links while you are there.


“Breakthrough” cases of Covid-19 caused by the VACCINATED as Joe Rogan reveals the peer-reviewed science behind it on his world-famous podcast



Mainstream media, the vaccine industry and the US government want to shut down and shut up Joe Rogan, the American with the 4th-most-popular podcast in the world, the “Joe Rogan Experience,” all because he’s questioning the safety and efficacy of the Covid vaccines.

Joe Rogan asks the most intelligent questions on planet earth, about society and how we function, and now those questions are challenging the “status quo” and the narrative of the entire Covid pandemic, where the CDC swears up and down that every Covid vaccine is absolutely safe and effective.

Rogan is quoting peer-reviewed scientific studies about vaccinated Americans being the culprit for spreading Covid and Delta variant, which is exactly what the vaccine fanatics don’t want people talking about or uncovering.

Joe Rogan launched his podcast way back in 2004. Rogan is a very accomplished entertainer, with success as an actor (think reality show “Fear Factor,” a stand-up comedian, a seasoned mixed martial artist, and one of the best sports commentators ever (for the UFC – ultimate fighting championships).

“The Joe Rogan Experience” has now posted a whistle-blowing podcast on YouTube, which will surely be banned, barred, falsely discredited and censored from the internet very soon. The topic is “Breakthrough Cases and Vaccine Passports.” Rogan has already received 1 million views of this video just since Friday, August 6th, 2021, and he boasts an amazing 11 million subscribers.

Joe Rogan shows the world the science behind dangerous Covid vaccinations that help create, strengthen and spread vaccine-resistant SARS-CoV-2 mutations, like Delta variant

Joe Rogan just warned the whole world to watch out for Covid vaccines as they may be leading to vaccine-resistant SARS-CoV-2 mutations. He went on to put the world on high alert that vaccine passports are just one step away from complete medical dictatorship in this country, simply by looking at the science. That’s why if you’re pro-vaccine right now, you are anti-science, because if you look at the science, you see that vaccines are not safe or effective, but rather dangerous and defective.


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