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legendary
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June 23, 2023, 11:47:57 PM
#34
RBF may not be an acceptable solution for some points of sale,
RBF is an acceptable solution in absolutely every case. If you already sent transaction with high fee and it's not getting confirmed, that only means that your fee isn't high enough to get tx confirmed and RBF gives you the possibility to solve that case.
I think he's referring to how some services don't accept RBF transactions to prevent double-spending scams.
The only reason a service would care about RBF, is if they accept zero-confirmation transactions. In those cases sending a transaction without RBF gets your payment accepted faster, but if you do use RBF, any service should accept it once it's confirmed.
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 07:27:48 PM
#33
RBF may not be an acceptable solution for some points of sale,
RBF is an acceptable solution in absolutely every case. If you already sent transaction with high fee and it's not getting confirmed, that only means that your fee isn't high enough to get tx confirmed and RBF gives you the possibility to solve that case.
I think he's referring to how some services don't accept RBF transactions to prevent double-spending scams. I do know some services that do that, it's not that rare as far as I'm aware. The easiest solution in a case like that would be to look for other services that accept RBF or be prepared to make CPFP if there is no other alternative. CMIIW.
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June 23, 2023, 04:01:51 AM
#32
I agree, but some still think that Bitcoin is anonymous and transactions are super cheap in the sense that you pay 1 cent and nothing more. On the one hand, they don't mind when CEX charges them $5 or $10 for a withdrawal, and on the other hand, it's a lot for them to pay $1 when they send it from their personal wallet.
That's a psychological factor. This accident pretty much reminds me the moment in life where people are lazy enough to work for their self-improvement but when they have no skills and no other choice, when someone hires them on a shit job, they are pushed to work 8-10 hours to make their boss rich.

RBF may not be an acceptable solution for some points of sale, and if you pay high fees and the transaction is not confirmed, then inevitably using RBF means higher fees. the correct thing is to choose a good wallet and a good program to estimate fees, and then pay fees equal or slightly higher to ensure that your transaction is confirmed. Fee estimation means that you will always pay higher fees.
RBF is an acceptable solution in absolutely every case. If you already sent transaction with high fee and it's not getting confirmed, that only means that your fee isn't high enough to get tx confirmed and RBF gives you the possibility to solve that case.
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June 22, 2023, 06:44:51 PM
#31
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This is why he said "when you are not in a hurry" Smiley
In some situations, volatility doesn't matter much. For example, holders or those who regularly consolidate their inputs pay the lowest fee possible, most of the time. They don't care about the price whether it goes up or down.
If you are in a hurry, then use a good fee estimator such as mempool.space to know how much you need to pay.
legendary
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June 21, 2023, 08:40:25 PM
#30
If you calculated your price in USD and want to convert them soon, then I would at least send transaction with low recommended fee with enabled RBF because there is no point if your $100 goes down to $80 and you saved $1 in fees. Overall, you are in loss in this case.
It's meaningless to send with 1 sat/vbyte or 2 and broadcast your transaction over and over again.
If you want to pay by bitcoin, the problem will not be in volatility, as the merchant will have a certain time before canceling the transaction, and thus re-broadcasting it for many weeks, which means that you have not paid.
Use cases in such scenarios are sometimes you may need this when you want to collect your income addresses and don't want to pay a lot of fees.
RBF may not be an acceptable solution for some points of sale, and if you pay high fees and the transaction is not confirmed, then inevitably using RBF means higher fees. the correct thing is to choose a good wallet and a good program to estimate fees, and then pay fees equal or slightly higher to ensure that your transaction is confirmed. Fee estimation means that you will always pay higher fees.
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June 21, 2023, 08:24:50 AM
#29
~snip~
It's meaningless to send with 1 sat/vbyte or 2 and broadcast your transaction over and over again.

I agree, but some still think that Bitcoin is anonymous and transactions are super cheap in the sense that you pay 1 cent and nothing more. On the one hand, they don't mind when CEX charges them $5 or $10 for a withdrawal, and on the other hand, it's a lot for them to pay $1 when they send it from their personal wallet.

It all boils down to the fact that one should always expect an increased number of transactions, and that the fee that has been paid may become insufficient at that moment - that's why I always pay a few sats more if I want a confirmation as quickly as possible, with of course RBF, which is something that everyone should learn to use.



Forget about accelerators, because there is only one that "works", but only if you meet certain conditions such as minimum fee and transaction size.
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June 21, 2023, 05:48:05 AM
#28
1 sat/vbyte is no longer accepted by most nodes, and therefore it will be rejected and you will not even be able to broadcast it.
Nodes are accepting 9 sat/vbyte of transaction when I check it today.

Bitcoin is so volatile, I think it's a little bit stupid to send transaction with very low fee and wait weeks to get it confirmed, o
It is not stupidity that caused it, ignorance caused it. Some people could have be used low fee and their transactions were confirmed very fast before, but the memory pool suddenly become congested and they have little knowledge about bitcoin transaction.

People that know what they are doing can use low fee and make the transaction to be RBF in a way they can increase the fee at anytime that they want.
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June 21, 2023, 05:32:17 AM
#27
It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
Because of the site's description? And google's recommendation when searching?
This is something only to people who have knowledge on how to make transaction get accelerated can understand.
Yes, description is misleading too and no, google doesn't recommend this or that website to anyone for particular tools/services, search engine works in a different way.


Google is keywords base if a site even if its service is questionable can still rank online if it has a lot of backlinks, they are an old site and the webmasters know how to configure the tags to rank online unless there is a request to ban the domain a site can rank if all the parameters are there for the site to rank.

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https://www.monsterinsights.com/google-ranking-factors/


In the case of the keyword Free Bitcoin accelerator, this is what shows on my end


So you see, the site on top is questionable but the webmaster knows how to rank the site to snatch the keyword, free Bitcoin accelerator.

 
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June 21, 2023, 03:12:22 AM
#26
It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
If you are not in a hurry, then broadcasting a transaction with the lowest fees accepted by nodes and re-broadcasting it will make you pay the cheapest possible fees, but in return you may wait a long time, so this is not an acceleration of the transaction, but rather a reduction of the fees to the minimum level.

1 sat/vbyte is no longer accepted by most nodes, and therefore it will be rejected and you will not even be able to broadcast it.
Bitcoin is so volatile, I think it's a little bit stupid to send transaction with very low fee and wait weeks to get it confirmed, of course, unless this person makes this transaction to fill his wallet where he hodls bitcoins. If you calculated your price in USD and want to convert them soon, then I would at least send transaction with low recommended fee with enabled RBF because there is no point if your $100 goes down to $80 and you saved $1 in fees. Overall, you are in loss in this case.
It's meaningless to send with 1 sat/vbyte or 2 and broadcast your transaction over and over again.
legendary
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June 20, 2023, 11:50:03 PM
#25
It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
If you are not in a hurry, then broadcasting a transaction with the lowest fees accepted by nodes and re-broadcasting it will make you pay the cheapest possible fees, but in return you may wait a long time, so this is not an acceleration of the transaction, but rather a reduction of the fees to the minimum level.

1 sat/vbyte is no longer accepted by most nodes, and therefore it will be rejected and you will not even be able to broadcast it.
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pxzone.online
June 20, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
#24
..and no, google doesn't recommend this or that website to anyone for particular tools/services, search engine works in a different way.
Well, try it for yourself, those "bitcoin accelerators" are the one who will show in google search page if you search bitcoin accelerators, either free or paid one.
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June 20, 2023, 06:43:28 AM
#23
Broadcasting your transaction doesn't accelerate the confirmation time, it only reminds nodes that your transaction exists and they call it an acceleration.
It only makes their transactions to remain stuck in the memory pool forever until the transaction luckily get confirmed by itself. It gives the inconveniencen of not able to rebroadcast ones coin again because rebroadcasting it makes it to stay in the mempool.

People that will use the accelerator sites do not know about transaction accelerator because they do not have the technical experience about how it works.
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June 20, 2023, 06:22:25 AM
#22
It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
Because of the site's description? And google's recommendation when searching?
This is something only to people who have knowledge on how to make transaction get accelerated can understand.
Yes, description is misleading too and no, google doesn't recommend this or that website to anyone for particular tools/services, search engine works in a different way.
By the way, free bitcoin transaction accelerators tell you truth and lie to you at the same time. They tell you that they are going to accelerate your transaction (lie) and at the same time they tell you that all they do is that they are broadcasting your transaction via nodes (true if actually true). Broadcasting your transaction doesn't accelerate the confirmation time, it only reminds nodes that your transaction exists and they call it an acceleration.
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pxzone.online
June 19, 2023, 06:47:12 PM
#21
It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
Because of the site's description? And google's recommendation when searching?
This is something only to people who have knowledge on how to make transaction get accelerated can understand.
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June 19, 2023, 06:36:33 PM
#20
I used these with success in the past:
https://bitaccelerate.com/
https://www.bitcoinjumper.com//
"success" in the past does not mean that they actually "accelerated" your transaction because the bitter truth is that they did not. What you think was success was actually the fact that the optimal fee rate dropped as transactions kept getting cleared from the mempool with time until your transaction was included in the next block. With or without the so-called accelerators, your transaction would have been confirmed in that block at that very time anyway. Stop misinforming members.
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June 19, 2023, 08:06:25 AM
#19
It's very ok to either use the wallet that supports the use of RBF function like electrum wallet and then pump the fee to accelerate the transaction or rather you make use of the mining pool to accelerate your transactions where it will be broadcasted along with their own transactions to be confirmed together, but one thing i will like to add is that sometimes there maybe no need for doing this if the mempool is not congested, you can know that by checking it before making your transactions.
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June 19, 2023, 07:55:36 AM
#18
I used these with success in the past:
All these do is rebroadcast your transaction. They are absolutely useless. They achieve literally nothing if your transaction is still in the mempool, and if it isn't in the mempool might make things worse by rebroadcasting your transaction after it has dropped, preventing you from making a new transaction with a higher fee.

It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
If person knows that much, he/she will send transaction with enabled RBF option and will have an idea about Child Pays For Parent option. Usually, people who post here about bitcoin transaction acceleration, are the ones who have no idea about where to check recommended fees, what's RBF or CPFP, have already tried so called free transaction accelerators (It's true that these fake accelerators play with keywords and lie to people) and then when all the free hope dies, they come here.


There is a new paid transaction acceleration service from Shitnance, uups, sorry, Binance, here you can check it out: https://pool.binance.com/en/acceleration
P.S. It's only for VIP users but it's easy to get VIP on Binance. Or you can just ask a friend or someone here.
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June 19, 2023, 07:32:45 AM
#17
I used these with success in the past:
All these do is rebroadcast your transaction. They are absolutely useless. They achieve literally nothing if your transaction is still in the mempool, and if it isn't in the mempool might make things worse by rebroadcasting your transaction after it has dropped, preventing you from making a new transaction with a higher fee.

It is interesting that people have difficulty accepting this fact and everyone hopes that it will somehow speed things up, but without it costing them. Then why would anyone pay a fee of more than 1 sat/byte, if they can subsequently just accelerate the transaction and finish the job?
legendary
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June 19, 2023, 07:16:36 AM
#16
I used these with success in the past:
All these do is rebroadcast your transaction. They are absolutely useless. They achieve literally nothing if your transaction is still in the mempool, and if it isn't in the mempool might make things worse by rebroadcasting your transaction after it has dropped, preventing you from making a new transaction with a higher fee.
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June 19, 2023, 05:14:41 AM
#15
I used these with success in the past:
https://bitaccelerate.com/
https://www.bitcoinjumper.com/

And this one (but no free version any more):
https://btcnitro.com/
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April 17, 2023, 08:47:51 AM
#14
Try Bumped the fee by using child pay for a parent or by using Viabtc like you have said before there is actually BTC.com transaction accelerator back then but I didn't find the link now sorry

Search on google and found a couple But I think DYOR first because I never used it.

Next time before do any transaction check mempool.space first so you know the better fee to use that day
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April 16, 2023, 12:40:44 PM
#13
In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee or if someone still wants or has to use third party, it's the best to avoid Bitcoin transaction in this case because these exchanges always send with very low fee and instead, one should choose Ripple or Nano or probably Bitcoin cash or Litecoin, depends how limited he is to options.
Which coin is Nano?

Because of low transaction fee, someone should hold altcoin instead?

Exchanges processed bitcoin transaction fast, the huge withdrawal fee demanded for is more than enough to make the exchanges to use high transaction fee.
Nano is not a famous coin but it does its job. Instead, you can use XRP.
And your second question sounds kinda strange. Personally, I have no problem with using bitcoin, it fulfills my needs but there are cases when you may prefer to use altcoins.
For example, imagine you have Tron in your wallet and you have to buy something from website that has built-in coinbase payment gateway and your only option is to exchange Tron to coins that are accepted by Coinbase, what would you do? If you exchange Tron to Bitcoin address given by coinbase, then there is a chance that instant exchange may send it with low transaction fee and you'll have to wait hours to get 2 confirmation. In this case, it's best to exchange Tron to XRP address that's given by Coinbase and get your transaction done quickly and finish your order ASAP.

But I have noticed that some exchanges send transaction with enabled RBF feature. In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee
Although this is not exactly what Loyce was talking about but I've never heard of someone complaining about n exchange withdrawal transaction being stuck for too long. Most reputable exchanges process withdrawal transactions in batches and they pay more than enough fee for a fast confirmation. In fact, fee overpayments by exchanges are the main reason why the mempool get congested every now and then.
I don't mean exchanges like Binance and Coinbase, they spend transactions with good fee rates. I mean small instant exchanges that you can see on Bestchange.

This is so right, and having RBF feature on an exchange sounds like overbearing and just a bragging feature that it can be used but in fact it's not. Also, i never heard any exchange have it, it might be better mentioning it here.
It may sound overbearing but you can actually see that transactions from exchanges have RBF enabled. For example, check FixedFloat. Transactions from FF have RBF enabled and fees are sometimes very low.
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April 16, 2023, 10:43:41 AM
#12
AFAIK, If the transaction does not contain RBF flag, then transferring the seeds to a wallet that supports that will not enable you to re-broadcast the transaction with higher fees.
Yes, for RBF and also if he is not the receiver.

If he imports the seed phrase on Electrum, he would be able to use CPFP. If it is BIP39 seed phrase, he would be able to use CPFP on Bluewallet.

It is a future option, but in the current situation you are forced to wait if it has low fees (≤0.5 KB) or the platform forces you to use a wallet that does not support RBF.
ViaBTC free accelerator? The fee should be more than 10 sat/byte (0.0001 BTC/KB) and the size should be less than 500 bytes ((≤0.5 KB). If the input and outout are not many, the transaction would be less than 500 bytes. Using 1 input and 10 outputs while sending from legacy address to legacy addresses, the transaction size is 498 bytes. 471 bytes for bech32 to bech32 segwit. Although 549 bytes for bech32m to bech32m addresses, but with 1 input and 8 inputs, it would less than 500 bytes.
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April 16, 2023, 10:04:17 AM
#11
AFAIK, If the transaction does not contain RBF flag, then transferring the seeds to a wallet that supports that will not enable you to re-broadcast the transaction with higher fees.

It is a future option, but in the current situation you are forced to wait if it has low fees (≤0.5 KB) or the platform forces you to use a wallet that does not support RBF.
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April 16, 2023, 10:01:27 AM
#10
Given how easy it is to enable RBF on a transaction, there really shouldn't ever be a reason to require a transaction accelerator anymore.
~snip~

There are still a lot of people who have heard about some magical transaction accelerators where you can speed up your transaction even if you have paid a minimal fee, and they are not too interested in the RBF option which actually does what they didn't even want at the beginning, pay $0.50 or even a little more for their transaction.



Which coin is Nano?
Because of low transaction fee, someone should hold altcoin instead?

It was one of the few projects in which I participated by solving captchas and thus "mining" Nano coins, which were not even called that at the time (RaiBlocks). Although many things later went wrong when it came to that project, the fact is that the coin cannot succeed even when it has 0% fee and instant confirmation.
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April 16, 2023, 05:24:13 AM
#9
But I have noticed that some exchanges send transaction with enabled RBF feature. In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee
Although this is not exactly what Loyce was talking about but I've never heard of someone complaining about n exchange withdrawal transaction being stuck for too long. Most reputable exchanges process withdrawal transactions in batches and they pay more than enough fee for a fast confirmation.
This is so right, and having RBF feature on an exchange sounds like overbearing and just a bragging feature that it can be used but in fact it's not. Also, i never heard any exchange have it, it might be better mentioning it here.
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April 15, 2023, 04:58:26 PM
#8
But I have noticed that some exchanges send transaction with enabled RBF feature. In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee
Although this is not exactly what Loyce was talking about but I've never heard of someone complaining about n exchange withdrawal transaction being stuck for too long. Most reputable exchanges process withdrawal transactions in batches and they pay more than enough fee for a fast confirmation. In fact, fee overpayments by exchanges are the main reason why the mempool get congested every now and then.
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April 15, 2023, 03:46:49 PM
#7
But I have noticed that some exchanges send transaction with enabled RBF feature.
Which exchanges?

In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee or if someone still wants or has to use third party, it's the best to avoid Bitcoin transaction in this case because these exchanges always send with very low fee and instead, one should choose Ripple or Nano or probably Bitcoin cash or Litecoin, depends how limited he is to options.
Which coin is Nano?

Because of low transaction fee, someone should hold altcoin instead?

Exchanges processed bitcoin transaction fast, the huge withdrawal fee demanded for is more than enough to make the exchanges to use high transaction fee.
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April 15, 2023, 06:51:39 AM
#6
What is the best Btc accelerator  sites?
Viabtc is very good , but $86 to accelarate a transaction.
I would say that your best bet is to ask miner or a group of miners to include your transaction in their block but probably they'll charge you a lot and you'll spend some time to find them. Still the best option for you is probably to wait until it gets confirmed.
Personally I did a transaction with 4sat/B today and it got confirmed in 1 hour. What was your fee? I think you can relax.

To add to the previous 2 posts: there's a scenario I can think of in which you can't do CPFP or RBF: if you received a transaction from a third party on an exchange. But that's something you shouldn't really do in the first place.
That's exactly what I wanted to write right now. But I have noticed that some exchanges send transaction with enabled RBF feature. In this case, probably the best idea is to contact that third party to increase the transaction fee or if someone still wants or has to use third party, it's the best to avoid Bitcoin transaction in this case because these exchanges always send with very low fee and instead, one should choose Ripple or Nano or probably Bitcoin cash or Litecoin, depends how limited he is to options.

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April 15, 2023, 02:57:50 AM
#5
There are open source wallets that you can use that support opt-in RBF: Bitcoin open source wallets that support replace-by-fee (RBF)

I have been using Electrum and Bluewallet. I can recommend both wallets. That does not mean that other wallets are not good too, but just recommending the ones I am using.

RBF to pump fee on Electrum and Bluewallet is by default. If you check mempool site like https://mempool.space/ (for beginners) or https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight (for adviced users) to know the fee priority, you can pump the fee if there is any need to.

You do not have to use those unrecommended wallets that do not support RBF. If you want to make a transaction that do not support RBF, you can disable it on those wallets that support it too. But if no any reason, let your transaction support opt-in RBF.

I have test paid accelerator via ViaBTC before, I could not complete it when I have to pay a fee of over $70 to just accelerator a coin less than $100. Paid accelerator is not what you can like to go for. Always find ways to avoid it, I mean when mempool can become very congested to the extent that free accelerator would become difficult to use successfully.

Unfortunately, they only accept free acceleration service for 10sat/B transactions or above.
Also the transaction must not be more than 500 bytes.

The volume of a single transaction must be ≤0.5 KB, and the transaction fee rate should be ≥ 0.0001 BTC/KB.
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April 15, 2023, 01:54:14 AM
#4
To add to the previous 2 posts: there's a scenario I can think of in which you can't do CPFP or RBF: if you received a transaction from a third party on an exchange. But that's something you shouldn't really do in the first place.
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April 15, 2023, 12:47:50 AM
#3
Given how easy it is to enable RBF on a transaction, there really shouldn't ever be a reason to require a transaction accelerator anymore. Just opt in to RBF with every transaction you make, and you can replace it later with a higher fee if it gets stuck. This will work out much cheaper than paying any transaction accelerator service, not to mention quicker and easier as well. Even using CPFP will probably be much cheaper than paying for a transaction accelerator.

Is your transaction opted in to RBF, or does it produce a change output? If so, use RBF/CPFP instead.
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April 14, 2023, 10:50:31 PM
#2
-snip-
Viabtc is very good , but $86 to accelarate a transaction.
Are you perhaps looking for free transaction accelerator?
Unfortunately, they only accept free acceleration service for 10sat/B transactions or above.
Any other free accelerators (that's not a mining pool/solo miner) are fake services that only re-broadcast transactions which you node already did.

Or a cheaper option?
AFAIK, the suggested "service fee" is based from the transaction's size in consideration of the number of unconfirmed parent(s).
I doubt other paid accelerators will charge you considerably less.
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April 14, 2023, 09:44:58 PM
#1
What is the best Btc accelerator  sites?
Viabtc is very good , but $86 to accelarate a transaction.
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