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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

The existence of an imagination to be motivated to achieve dreams. If I have 1 Bitcoin now, then someday I will have 10 Bitcoins. If what you describe is related to Bitcoin, then it's called a hallucination, not an imagination, let alone a dream.
A thinker will give a thought to something that is thought in accordance with the data (past, present, future).
Look at this graph.

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Quote from: Rimueng on March 04, 2022, 02:06:20 PM

In my understanding, if we have Bitcoin today and hold it for 10 years, and when bitcoin matures and there is a significant increase in price, usability and trust then, we will make huge profits. I believe in the future more innovation, more regulation to adopt bitcoin and other crypto assets. But it's clear that Hold is the winner.

That is a long, in my opinion, if you ar going to hold it for about a year, the thing you should do is to really keep it secure and have the private key and mnemonic phrase safe like in a bank vault or something. And who knows what's going to happen to us in the next 10 years. Plus there is this thing called mental toughness, your resiliency to get pass and not to sell your bitcoin if we reaches all time high. So very very hard to do and hold it for 10 years or so.

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In my understanding, if we have Bitcoin today and hold it for 10 years, and when bitcoin matures and there is a significant increase in price, usability and trust then, we will make huge profits. I believe in the future more innovation, more regulation to adopt bitcoin and other crypto assets. But it's clear that Hold is the winner.

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Naturally, people have held their Bitcoin because they believe it will become more valuable in the future. Their idea was great and I support their thinking but I suggest them not to expect too much. Maybe 10 years from we can see Bitcoin reaches $500k and if that really happens, these holders will surely get happy while those weak hands regret it.
Well, I'm too positive as well that Bitcoin adoption went so strong, and to see people will use this as a currency.

IMHO, it's okay to expect much if it's for bitcoin. But for the other coins, it's better be applied to be neutral or give not too much expectation. That's just what I think since bitcoin is likely holding the whole market and it moves all of them every time it goes up or down.
$500k is a too much expectation and I'd love to hold bitcoin even only one until that time comes. As I've said that it's okay to expect that much, your expectation of it being as a currency isn't that much because it is actually a currency already or maybe it's about being used and replaced fiat.

As for my experience, it is better if you do have your own prediction and keep it to yourself and see if bitcoin can reach that price or not. Or just stick with the basic, continue to hold and accumulate because the chance of bitcoin having a massive growth in the coming year is high. So no expectation, just time will tell. A for the other coins, there could be some solid coins, but not like bitcoin though. There are some solid altcoins that can give us good profits in the future as well, but majority of us sticks to bitcoin.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 28, 2022, 07:04:57 AM

Naturally, people have held their Bitcoin because they believe it will become more valuable in the future. Their idea was great and I support their thinking but I suggest them not to expect too much. Maybe 10 years from we can see Bitcoin reaches $500k and if that really happens, these holders will surely get happy while those weak hands regret it.
Well, I'm too positive as well that Bitcoin adoption went so strong, and to see people will use this as a currency.

IMHO, it's okay to expect much if it's for bitcoin. But for the other coins, it's better be applied to be neutral or give not too much expectation. That's just what I think since bitcoin is likely holding the whole market and it moves all of them every time it goes up or down.
$500k is a too much expectation and I'd love to hold bitcoin even only one until that time comes. As I've said that it's okay to expect that much, your expectation of it being as a currency isn't that much because it is actually a currency already or maybe it's about being used and replaced fiat.

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1 Bitcoin will remain the same 1 Bitcoin even in the next 100 years coming, the value of Bitcoin may change its price can go up to $400,000 in the next couple of years but if you hold one bitcoin it will not change its value but it Fiat value may change. On the contrary, Bitcoin will never replace fiat but will continue to provide an alternative role and a digital currency.

The nature of your holdings is not going to change but what you can get with them will increase significantly during the next years and decades, I really think this is why people are not using their bitcoin as much as they should, they are waiting for the value of their bitcoin to go up in terms of fiat and as long as this is the case then the adoption of bitcoin will still be on the slow side, but if you are not in a hurry to make profits then that is not really something that affects you at all.

Naturally, people have held their Bitcoin because they believe it will become more valuable in the future. Their idea was great and I support their thinking but I suggest them not to expect too much. Maybe 10 years from we can see Bitcoin reaches $500k and if that really happens, these holders will surely get happy while those weak hands regret it.
Well, I'm too positive as well that Bitcoin adoption went so strong, and to see people will use this as a currency.

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On the contrary, Bitcoin will never replace fiat but will continue to provide an alternative role and a digital currency.

On the contrary, this is not only possible, it is happening. During the last few years Bitcoin has witnessed a major evolution and global adoption. The concept has become easier to understand and used for the general public in most parts of the world. Take El Salvador for example. Moreover, current events in Ukraine and Russia clearly demonstrate how cryptocurrencies are more advantageous than fiat money and the traditional banking system.

The technology behind Bitcoin has advanced and Bitcoin is not only used as a currency but also to store value and make investments.

As an alternative, I'd agree about it. But if a country has been stopped to use those systems that they've been traditionally using all over these years with fiat, they'll have no choice but either to use their own system and it's like a close border system that only them can have it. Or, to have open transfers, they can use bitcoin on it. Whilst these countries that does have some issues with the traditional system and they were stopped, bitcoin is a good option for them. They'll add up to the value of the market and eventually will realize that it's not just a payment method but also a store of value and a kind of asset that they'd love to have.

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Quote from: Odusko on February 27, 2022, 09:19:21 AM

1 Bitcoin will remain the same 1 Bitcoin even in the next 100 years coming, the value of Bitcoin may change its price can go up to $400,000 in the next couple of years but if you hold one bitcoin it will not change its value but it Fiat value may change. On the contrary, Bitcoin will never replace fiat but will continue to provide an alternative role and a digital currency.

The nature of your holdings is not going to change but what you can get with them will increase significantly during the next years and decades, I really think this is why people are not using their bitcoin as much as they should, they are waiting for the value of their bitcoin to go up in terms of fiat and as long as this is the case then the adoption of bitcoin will still be on the slow side, but if you are not in a hurry to make profits then that is not really something that affects you at all.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on February 07, 2022, 11:10:14 AM

If you want a long term investment of course you can get massive income afterward. And no one knows how much percentage you can make from it because it depends on the growth rate of bitcoin in the future. Just use estimated price if you really want to know, infact there are some free calculators around the internet for traders how to compute profits at the significant price. Maybe it can help you.

I know when i started with investing with Bitcoin and i understand that my friend used big money to buy Bitcoin and used little as i have to buy Bitcoin and we forget about the coins for months and when bitcoin rise's the money my friend get is higher than my own, that is when i notice investing in bitcoin and any other coins you have to put plenty money, but people advice that some body should you his spell money for investment, but i agreed with them, but the profit of long term investment will be determine by the money you put

That's why people are competing to invest in bitcoin, in the long run this coin can provide an extraordinary value for the capital we spend, just imagine if 5 years ago we were able to buy 3 or 5 bitcoins, if calculated at the current price even quite a lot the profit we get, that's why people never hesitate to buy bitcoins instead of other coins, so take advantage of these conditions if we are able to do it.

We all know that btc is the high profitable coin in crypto market .Though its high volatile but we can get huge return for long term .I am agree with you that if we bought few btc when it was in more deep we could get a huge return .I just made a plan for my future that i will keep save my btc when i got it on deep that's how i could be passed my last life with peach and also i could give some asset to my family as well .It has proved that how much strong believe i have that it will be huge in the future for sure .Don't wanna make same mistake once again .As you said its a time to take advantages and buy few more for holding long term .

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Quote from: Odusko on February 27, 2022, 09:19:21 AM

On the contrary, Bitcoin will never replace fiat but will continue to provide an alternative role and a digital currency.

On the contrary, this is not only possible, it is happening. During the last few years Bitcoin has witnessed a major evolution and global adoption. The concept has become easier to understand and used for the general public in most parts of the world. Take El Salvador for example. Moreover, current events in Ukraine and Russia clearly demonstrate how cryptocurrencies are more advantageous than fiat money and the traditional banking system.

The technology behind Bitcoin has advanced and Bitcoin is not only used as a currency but also to store value and make investments.

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1 Bitcoin will remain the same 1 Bitcoin even in the next 100 years coming, the value of Bitcoin may change its price can go up to $400,000 in the next couple of years but if you hold one bitcoin it will not change its value but it Fiat value may change. On the contrary, Bitcoin will never replace fiat but will continue to provide an alternative role and a digital currency.

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Quote from: StreakW on February 23, 2022, 09:22:49 AM

What formula do you use, if we have 1 BTC today then it becomes 40 thousand in the next 7-8 years. I think it's irrational. It is impossible for 1 BTC to become 40 thousand BTC in the future. If the price increases in the future it might sound reasonable if we have 1 BTC today at a price of $40k and a few years later the price rises to $100k we will make a huge profit. But I'm not sure if crypto will become a medium of exchange to replace fiat currency in the future.

Is he a mathematician or what? Because, he has his own formulae to calculate stuffs. A 40k usd/btc is just an example but reality is that btc can cross over that amount. Imagine how much btc will that be equivalent to but no I do not think you can now buy anything but for sure the prices of the items are also going to be adjusted and they can look a little more pricy than their usual price that we are seeing right now.

Bitcoin is already a medium of exchange and depending on the user, they can treat is as a fiat replacement if they wont use fiats anymore but I think in the future, the situation will be the same. Fiats and usd are still the measurement of everything including btc.

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Besides even if in the future we could convert one BTC in a lambo should this be done? After all even luxury cars lose some of their value after they have been used while bitcoin goes up in value the longer you hold it, so it seems like a bad business decision to get rid of something like bitcoin for something that is just a frivolous purchase, now if you have a lot of money then you could afford it without spending all your bitcoin, but still I think there are other ways to spend our money and get more enjoyment out of it.

If you are so into investment and wants to maximize the profit in 7-10 years, those money you want to buy for luxury or to spend it for leisure, you can actually use that money to buy more fractions of Bitcoin regardless of the current price, that'll be worth way more than the current price in 7-10 years. That actually sounds like an early retirement plan right?
Lambo, mansion, and all other luxuries isn't important anyway, retiring early and enjoy life would be much more important.

That is exactly the way I think, while I can understand the appeal of a life full of luxuries like that, the problem is such a life is too expensive and very few can afford to live like that, however retiring early and enjoy a high enough standard of living can be achieved by working hard, investing in bitcoin and holding for a decade, that is my goal, and I am sure that if I keep holding my bitcoin in the future I am going to be able to get to that goal and have a very comfortable life ahead of me.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

What formula do you use, if we have 1 BTC today then it becomes 40 thousand in the next 7-8 years. I think it's irrational. It is impossible for 1 BTC to become 40 thousand BTC in the future. If the price increases in the future it might sound reasonable if we have 1 BTC today at a price of $40k and a few years later the price rises to $100k we will make a huge profit. But I'm not sure if crypto will become a medium of exchange to replace fiat currency in the future.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on February 07, 2022, 11:10:14 AM

If you want a long term investment of course you can get massive income afterward. And no one knows how much percentage you can make from it because it depends on the growth rate of bitcoin in the future. Just use estimated price if you really want to know, infact there are some free calculators around the internet for traders how to compute profits at the significant price. Maybe it can help you.

I know when i started with investing with Bitcoin and i understand that my friend used big money to buy Bitcoin and used little as i have to buy Bitcoin and we forget about the coins for months and when bitcoin rise's the money my friend get is higher than my own, that is when i notice investing in bitcoin and any other coins you have to put plenty money, but people advice that some body should you his spell money for investment, but i agreed with them, but the profit of long term investment will be determine by the money you put

That's why people are competing to invest in bitcoin, in the long run this coin can provide an extraordinary value for the capital we spend, just imagine if 5 years ago we were able to buy 3 or 5 bitcoins, if calculated at the current price even quite a lot the profit we get, that's why people never hesitate to buy bitcoins instead of other coins, so take advantage of these conditions if we are able to do it.

don't just put Bitcoin alone because there are also many coins that even reached more than what bitcoin does in the last 5 years.

but it is always the best way to invest here , it is Bitcoin because this is the safest .

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Forget about Lambo and mansions as 7-10 years from now you 1BTC isn't enough to have one of them unless you sold your BTC or unless if 1BTC is worth $500k. Well, that sounds impossible, right? I'll just be predicting it reach $200k if the demand will tend to improve as well as the adoption but if not, we can still see it below $100k.

i believe that in 7-10 years ? there will be more places where we can purchase mansion and lambo using our bitcoin so there is no need for selling instead directly buying using our coins.

and 10 years? bitcoin may reach a million dollars mate .

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To imagine that 7-10 years from now Bitcoin has become a legal tender is gonna be possible but not all countries will adopt it. So, if you are in a country that accepts Bitcoin, then you're too lucky.

you dont know what will come mate, that is a long years to come, remember back then 10 years ago, bitcoin had been banned or being hate by the world but now look at it, and the value those days? compared to what it has now?

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:18:47 AM

Forget about Lambo and mansions as 7-10 years from now you 1BTC isn't enough to have one of them unless you sold your BTC or unless if 1BTC is worth $500k. Well, that sounds impossible, right? I'll just be predicting it reach $200k if the demand will tend to improve as well as the adoption but if not, we can still see it below $100k.

To imagine that 7-10 years from now Bitcoin has become a legal tender is gonna be possible but not all countries will adopt it. So, if you are in a country that accepts Bitcoin, then you're too lucky.

Besides even if in the future we could convert one BTC in a lambo should this be done? After all even luxury cars lose some of their value after they have been used while bitcoin goes up in value the longer you hold it, so it seems like a bad business decision to get rid of something like bitcoin for something that is just a frivolous purchase, now if you have a lot of money then you could afford it without spending all your bitcoin, but still I think there are other ways to spend our money and get more enjoyment out of it.

If you are so into investment and wants to maximize the profit in 7-10 years, those money you want to buy for luxury or to spend it for leisure, you can actually use that money to buy more fractions of Bitcoin regardless of the current price, that'll be worth way more than the current price in 7-10 years. That actually sounds like an early retirement plan right?
Lambo, mansion, and all other luxuries isn't important anyway, retiring early and enjoy life would be much more important.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:18:47 AM

Forget about Lambo and mansions as 7-10 years from now you 1BTC isn't enough to have one of them unless you sold your BTC or unless if 1BTC is worth $500k. Well, that sounds impossible, right? I'll just be predicting it reach $200k if the demand will tend to improve as well as the adoption but if not, we can still see it below $100k.

To imagine that 7-10 years from now Bitcoin has become a legal tender is gonna be possible but not all countries will adopt it. So, if you are in a country that accepts Bitcoin, then you're too lucky.

Besides even if in the future we could convert one BTC in a lambo should this be done? After all even luxury cars lose some of their value after they have been used while bitcoin goes up in value the longer you hold it, so it seems like a bad business decision to get rid of something like bitcoin for something that is just a frivolous purchase, now if you have a lot of money then you could afford it without spending all your bitcoin, but still I think there are other ways to spend our money and get more enjoyment out of it.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

To measure the value of something first we need to pick and standard to compare. If after 7-10 years value of BTC has increased against USD that means its purchasing power increases not the total amount. You will still have 1 BTC but you could buy a lot more stuff than you can today. If you understand how purchasing power parity works then you will understand what I am talking about. Free free to check out this article if you have time. Link

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Forget about Lambo and mansions as 7-10 years from now you 1BTC isn't enough to have one of them unless you sold your BTC or unless if 1BTC is worth $500k. Well, that sounds impossible, right? I'll just be predicting it reach $200k if the demand will tend to improve as well as the adoption but if not, we can still see it below $100k.

To imagine that 7-10 years from now Bitcoin has become a legal tender is gonna be possible but not all countries will adopt it. So, if you are in a country that accepts Bitcoin, then you're too lucky.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Depending on how Bitcoin's journey is going forward, whether there can guarantee that Bitcoin's length will be worth it, indeed, if it is noticed in the next 10 Bitcoin is still the king in Crypto, but the competition between other coins cannot be ignored, the mathematical count is true as you describe, But it's still very speculative, why not looking for a potential short-expected coin to get big profits, isn't it more promising.

1 bitcoin will still be 1 bitcoin but the value of money will change every time and maybe if 1 bitcoin becomes $100k, that means your money value will be like that.
The bitcoin journey will be exciting because we have seen what is happening with bitcoin so far and we recognize that fluctuations in the value of bitcoin will continue to change.
As long as the value of bitcoin continues to rise, it will make people keep trying to get more bitcoins so that when the price goes up very high, they can get double profits.
That is why, until now, people are still using bitcoin for profit because they believe that the value of bitcoin will be very high in the future.

The quote 1 bitcoin=1bitcoin is for those who keeps the Holding for long term and those who uses bitcoin as a payment structure , but for day trader or short term trader ? this does not take effect because for them Bitcoin is equivalent to Dollar always.
meaning they will buy to see the increase and sell it again.

and also until adoption still on process? i don't think that 1bitcoin will always be 1 bitcoin .

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the investment concept is like that, buying cheap and then selling when prices are high, this formula will apply everywhere, but I think holding on too long will be risky, so it's better to buy cheap and then sell when market conditions are getting stronger against bitcoin , speaking of profits bitcoin is the best asset if invested, but make a good investment scheme, if in 1 or 2 years can produce, then make a sale.

Yes, that's the concept. If you want to hold on too long, maybe you can do it with bitcoin because you've seen real examples of what bitcoin is already doing.
Many people hold bitcoin, maybe some have held bitcoin since 2017 and when the bitcoin price rose in 2021-2022 yesterday, they made a big profit by selling bitcoin.
But it requires a lot of calculation and research for altcoins because few altcoins can deliver as big a profit as bitcoin.

Quote from: el kaka22 on February 18, 2022, 02:41:14 PM

If you do not put in your emotions into investing, that means that you are going to end up with a good return and it will not matter too much for you. I am not saying that it will be zero, but it will surely be fine and it will not matter too much.

I feel like the price in 10 years could be as high as one million dollars, there will be people who think that it will not happen but the reality is that we all know it could happen, it will not be there right away but there are 2 halving between today and 10 years later (maybe even 3?) and that means that we are talking about something that is increasing the price a lot when it happens and it is twice as well.

Last time we had it we moved from 10k to 68k, and if we calculate it at 7x, that means from 40-50k we could move to 350k in that sense, and 7x would be over 2 million dollars. Even if it doesn't move up that much, it could be half that, which is a million dollars.

Managing emotions is necessary for investing, especially in crypto, because price fluctuations in crypto are more frequent than investments in other fields.
Maybe we haven't been able to get a good return in 1 year but if you stay patient and hold on to your coin you will surely see the price go up high and it will give you huge profits as we have seen several times.
When something becomes very rare and many people are looking for it, the price will go up high and we can never even imagine how high the price will be.
Bitcoin reached its highest price of $69k in less than 15 years. Moreover, we still have 2x halvings that can make bitcoin prices reach more than $500k.
We would be very happy to see bitcoin rise to a million dollars.

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Quote from: traderethereum on February 17, 2022, 08:35:08 PM

the selling price will always change, but I always believe that in the next 5 to 10 years, the price can increase even higher.
That means as long as you can use the moment to buy at a low price and sell at a high price, you will profit.
Maybe you don't want to hold bitcoin for a long period because of the uncertainty of the ever-changing bitcoin price.
But as long as you can profit from buying and selling bitcoins, you will earn money.
Profiting from buying and selling is what many people want.

If you do not put in your emotions into investing, that means that you are going to end up with a good return and it will not matter too much for you. I am not saying that it will be zero, but it will surely be fine and it will not matter too much.

I feel like the price in 10 years could be as high as one million dollars, there will be people who think that it will not happen but the reality is that we all know it could happen, it will not be there right away but there are 2 halving between today and 10 years later (maybe even 3?) and that means that we are talking about something that is increasing the price a lot when it happens and it is twice as well.

Last time we had it we moved from 10k to 68k, and if we calculate it at 7x, that means from 40-50k we could move to 350k in that sense, and 7x would be over 2 million dollars. Even if it doesn't move up that much, it could be half that, which is a million dollars.

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In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Depending on how Bitcoin's journey is going forward, whether there can guarantee that Bitcoin's length will be worth it, indeed, if it is noticed in the next 10 Bitcoin is still the king in Crypto, but the competition between other coins cannot be ignored, the mathematical count is true as you describe, But it's still very speculative, why not looking for a potential short-expected coin to get big profits, isn't it more promising.

1 bitcoin will still be 1 bitcoin but the value of money will change every time and maybe if 1 bitcoin becomes $100k, that means your money value will be like that.
The bitcoin journey will be exciting because we have seen what is happening with bitcoin so far and we recognize that fluctuations in the value of bitcoin will continue to change.
As long as the value of bitcoin continues to rise, it will make people keep trying to get more bitcoins so that when the price goes up very high, they can get double profits.
That is why, until now, people are still using bitcoin for profit because they believe that the value of bitcoin will be very high in the future.

The only change lies in the selling price, when today we start buying bitcoin at a price of $50K, it could be that in the future we can sell 5 or 10 times the current price, but guarantees in the future are also not necessarily bitcoin has a value like today, Isn't cryptocurrency growing, there will be more coin rivals that will appear in the future, even though we know bitcoin is difficult to match in the next 5 or 10 years, but I think anything can happen, as long as other coins can achieve results like bitcoin did.

Yes, the selling price will always change, but I always believe that in the next 5 to 10 years, the price can increase even higher.
That means as long as you can use the moment to buy at a low price and sell at a high price, you will profit.
Maybe you don't want to hold bitcoin for a long period because of the uncertainty of the ever-changing bitcoin price.
But as long as you can profit from buying and selling bitcoins, you will earn money.
Profiting from buying and selling is what many people want.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

The value multiplies by fiat but you can't have 2 Bitcoin ten years from now if you have 1 Bitcoin the value in fiat is what increases not the number of your Bitcoin, I guess what you mean is the purchasing power of Bitcoin at $40 just multiplies to two times I believe it will even be more if we have the same paced so in 7 to 10 years we have 5 times of the current buying power, hopefully, it will happen.

It is obvious that what he meant by that is that if you bought Bitcoin valuing 40k now and when the price reached 80 then you're holding double from your investment value so there is no debatable about that its just happened that His wordings is not that accurate to understand.
Even me made it harder to understand His post lol.

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and still , 1 bts = 1 btc and that is the reality in crypto .

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Good calculation for long term investment preparation, but the question now is to what extent these calculations can be implemented into real investment, everyone has confidence to buy bitcoin at 40k price, then keep in the long term the investment, I think this is an investment preparation step That's right, as long as you can implement the investment in the long term, it's not just a discourse that appears.

Ohh...i see even members here knows im right pretend like they dont know.

wrong , we are not pretending we don't understand you but the truth is you really cannot be understand , because your mindset is out of this world and like a alien thinking Grin

and you will never be right because you will always be wrong .

try to ask your Mama maybe he'll understand your sentiment here.

I think your language describes behavior and behavior, this forum should be used for discussion, not just telling people, do you think I will be angry when you say that?
You are wrong friend, public space is not a place for us to speak rudely to each other, try to be mature in dealing with problems, this time I will not serve, it's a waste of time.

at least you Know who Am I addressing right? it is the one who quoted you and not you, i think understanding is what you people need to learn first.

regardless of who you mention it for, but I don't think it's appropriate for us to say such language in a public space, and thank you for clarifying that this is not for me, in the future hopefully I and all of us will be wiser in dealing with every problem that exists, thank you friend for In this discussion, I am sure your intentions are good, maybe I am not observant in seeing the contents of the reply quote.

Then Cry with him , because if you are a tin skin here then you must not post anyway because expect all kind of words here as long as it does not violate the Rules of the forum .

you are also a cry baby if you think my word is not appropriate to counter that words he uses.

anyway I will put you in Ignore list because i don't want to deal with so much dramatic account .. Cry more Baby.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on February 16, 2022, 09:51:00 AM

Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Depending on how Bitcoin's journey is going forward, whether there can guarantee that Bitcoin's length will be worth it, indeed, if it is noticed in the next 10 Bitcoin is still the king in Crypto, but the competition between other coins cannot be ignored, the mathematical count is true as you describe, But it's still very speculative, why not looking for a potential short-expected coin to get big profits, isn't it more promising.

1 bitcoin will still be 1 bitcoin but the value of money will change every time and maybe if 1 bitcoin becomes $100k, that means your money value will be like that.
The bitcoin journey will be exciting because we have seen what is happening with bitcoin so far and we recognize that fluctuations in the value of bitcoin will continue to change.
As long as the value of bitcoin continues to rise, it will make people keep trying to get more bitcoins so that when the price goes up very high, they can get double profits.
That is why, until now, people are still using bitcoin for profit because they believe that the value of bitcoin will be very high in the future.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

The value multiplies by fiat but you can't have 2 Bitcoin ten years from now if you have 1 Bitcoin the value in fiat is what increases not the number of your Bitcoin, I guess what you mean is the purchasing power of Bitcoin at $40 just multiplies to two times I believe it will even be more if we have the same paced so in 7 to 10 years we have 5 times of the current buying power, hopefully, it will happen.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on February 16, 2022, 07:12:54 AM

The amount will be the same but the value will be changing any time , the volatility will tell you this so better to be ready? or forget what you are aiming.

having 1 bitcoin is more than enough investment for long term specially if you are looking for the next generation meaning to be granted to your love ones.

like what I am doing now, investing bitcoin for my children that they will treasure when time comes.

I would argue that if you have 1 bitcoin and you do nothing with them then it could be a bit of wrong as well. Even if you do not do anything big, just putting it on interest could be more than enough. That way you could turn your 1 bitcoin into 2 bitcoin for real, even while the price is going up.

I know that people do not trust everywhere, but you could check binance and see what coins and tokens they are promoting in the calculation and you could see how much you could make from their interest. I personally believe that we should not be really just simply holding if we have a lot of money, I mean sure if it is under 1k then you do not have to worry too much but if you have 1 bitcoin then you could make so much more with that in 20-30 years before you leave it to your children.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Depending on how Bitcoin's journey is going forward, whether there can guarantee that Bitcoin's length will be worth it, indeed, if it is noticed in the next 10 Bitcoin is still the king in Crypto, but the competition between other coins cannot be ignored, the mathematical count is true as you describe, But it's still very speculative, why not looking for a potential short-expected coin to get big profits, isn't it more promising.

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Quote from: peterpanda on February 15, 2022, 02:32:21 PM

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Stil now 1bitcoin equal 1 bitcoin not two bitcoin.When 1 bitcoin price was $2 and if It's rise to $4 that means not 2 bitcoin. 2013-2014 Bitcoin price and now bitcoin huge different. Last few years bitcoin price huge increase and more development. Many people still believe in bitcoin and investment in bitcoin for long term.I think price Doesn't matter, it depends on how much you want benefit.

It is true that the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio will be same. The price of bitcoin can change but not the exact amount in bitcoin. Changing price is a common factor in crypto currency. But we can predict that bitcoin is powerful crypto and price of it will be growing in future.

The amount will be the same but the value will be changing any time , the volatility will tell you this so better to be ready? or forget what you are aiming.

having 1 bitcoin is more than enough investment for long term specially if you are looking for the next generation meaning to be granted to your love ones.

like what I am doing now, investing bitcoin for my children that they will treasure when time comes.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 09, 2022, 03:31:00 AM

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Good calculation for long term investment preparation, but the question now is to what extent these calculations can be implemented into real investment, everyone has confidence to buy bitcoin at 40k price, then keep in the long term the investment, I think this is an investment preparation step That's right, as long as you can implement the investment in the long term, it's not just a discourse that appears.

Ohh...i see even members here knows im right pretend like they dont know.

wrong , we are not pretending we don't understand you but the truth is you really cannot be understand , because your mindset is out of this world and like a alien thinking Grin

and you will never be right because you will always be wrong .

try to ask your Mama maybe he'll understand your sentiment here.

I think your language describes behavior and behavior, this forum should be used for discussion, not just telling people, do you think I will be angry when you say that?
You are wrong friend, public space is not a place for us to speak rudely to each other, try to be mature in dealing with problems, this time I will not serve, it's a waste of time.

at least you Know who Am I addressing right? it is the one who quoted you and not you, i think understanding is what you people need to learn first.

Quote from: 325btc on February 09, 2022, 03:31:00 AM

Ohh...i see even members here knows im right pretend like they dont know.

This is Whom I am quoting and not yours lol.

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Quote from: dimonstration on February 07, 2022, 08:04:26 AM

How come you are assuming that Fiat will be eliminated while you still giving value of BTC in Fiat? It's ironic that you are still using the value fiat for BTC value in the future while you are removing it in the equation. You should value BTC in terms of Gold or other asset that has value instead of fiat that you are hypothetically eradicating in the world economy to make your point have sense. Because no matter how you change your perspectiveon 1BTC value, It will still be 1BTC if you are just holding it. Just change your equivalent value to something else to easliy express your point. But I really understand what you are trying to emphasize here.

Yeah, this is what I noticed too but does gold can be value without a fiat? I know gold is being used before and I think gold came first before fiat right? But, what I mean is how can we measure its value if there also no fiat because right now I think gold is measured in USD in general just like how we measure btc value and aside from gold what are those other assets that you know that can work like a gold for measuring the btc price in the future?

I think OP is only exaggerating there. If btc valued at 1m and then let say they remove fiat so people can assume that 1 btc is now equivalent to 1m btc and they can now buying anything? Dang that's too good to be true.

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Stil now 1bitcoin equal 1 bitcoin not two bitcoin.When 1 bitcoin price was $2 and if It's rise to $4 that means not 2 bitcoin. 2013-2014 Bitcoin price and now bitcoin huge different. Last few years bitcoin price huge increase and more development. Many people still believe in bitcoin and investment in bitcoin for long term.I think price Doesn't matter, it depends on how much you want benefit.

It is true that the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio will be same. The price of bitcoin can change but not the exact amount in bitcoin. Changing price is a common factor in crypto currency. But we can predict that bitcoin is powerful crypto and price of it will be growing in future.

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Stil now 1bitcoin equal 1 bitcoin not two bitcoin.When 1 bitcoin price was $2 and if It's rise to $4 that means not 2 bitcoin. 2013-2014 Bitcoin price and now bitcoin huge different. Last few years bitcoin price huge increase and more development. Many people still believe in bitcoin and investment in bitcoin for long term.I think price Doesn't matter, it depends on how much you want benefit.

1 BTC = 1 BTC and nothings gonna change it is just only on its usd value and this is where people do really mind off thats why they do hold off no matter what.
Speaking with future value then there would be no exact price on what it would be as long recognition and adoption do continue to rise up then all possible price or numbers
could possibly be reached up thats why it is really that hard to make out some conclusions on what would be the price might be on the future
thats why there would be no assurance.

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Quote from: Questat on February 15, 2022, 07:40:32 AM

What I think is that OP had sold his 1 Bitcoin 7-10 years from now.
But anyway, I don't argue how you make your calculation, however, it was found wrong and I don't get it.
It is simple, don't compare Bitcoin to fiat inflation as 1 Bitcoin will remain 1 Bitcoin, it only the price had changed, unlike fiat money that its value will definitely change.

Yeah, before I have the same mindset, I also compare it to fiat value. But later as I gain experience in crypto and from traveling to other places and converting my local fiat to let's say USD, it really doesn't make sense to convert it. So still 1 BTC=1BTC today and in the future. And if you haven't sold any then good, but don't look at it and compare it to fiat, just saying.

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What I think is that OP had sold his 1 Bitcoin 7-10 years from now.
But anyway, I don't argue how you make your calculation, however, it was found wrong and I don't get it.
It is simple, don't compare Bitcoin to fiat inflation as 1 Bitcoin will remain 1 Bitcoin, it only the price had changed, unlike fiat money that its value will definitely change.

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Quote from: lizarder on February 09, 2022, 02:55:14 AM

Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Good calculation for long term investment preparation, but the question now is to what extent these calculations can be implemented into real investment, everyone has confidence to buy bitcoin at 40k price, then keep in the long term the investment, I think this is an investment preparation step That's right, as long as you can implement the investment in the long term, it's not just a discourse that appears.

Ohh...i see even members here knows im right pretend like they dont know.

wrong , we are not pretending we don't understand you but the truth is you really cannot be understand , because your mindset is out of this world and like a alien thinking Grin

and you will never be right because you will always be wrong .

try to ask your Mama maybe he'll understand your sentiment here.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

This is making for laugher really. If that happens to be rich is just by the way but I don't believe that to happen. The most of it is that the value in the coin will not change. No matter the volatility and market volume but the number will keep to staying in that number that you have and not reduce. Example 0.002 of bitcoin will remain as 0.002 and 0.01 will stay that way no matter the time but the price can be changing.

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The amount of cryptocurrency that is being added in all countries from this time. From that, it can be said that cryptocurrency will be legalized in almost all countries by 2030. And after 2050, there will be no paper money. All money will become electronic money. Because in 2010 one pizza could be bought with 50 BTC but now 50 thousand pizzas can be bought with 1 BTC. There will come a time when anyone who has a bitcoin will be able to buy a car, a house and spend a lifetime with that BTC. Some of the reasons for this are that the mining of bitcoin will end one time. When thousands of attempts are made, no one else will be able to produce Bitcoin. When no one can do the mining, the price of Bitcoin will go up a lot.

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Quote from: jamkesmas on February 09, 2022, 11:10:04 PM

I think the value of an item will not change especially what is discussed in this topic is bitcoin. according to my knowledge the value of Bitcoin will not change at any time, what will change is the price may go up or down depending on the future of Bitcoin.

but we should also know that BTC is an asset in an unreal world. so far the only changes that have occurred to Bitcoin and other coins in the crypto space are price. even though BTC is not real, I believe in the value of BTC that will last.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

I like your spirit, hodl BTC for a better future...

I was not born in a simple family, I struggled to collect assets slowly, every month I set aside money with my husband to buy Bitcoins consistently. we believe investing in bitcoin is more profitable than investing in gold or property.

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OP probably has 325BTC from before. :O Maybe bought for $325 then became 325BTC. Shocked

You have probably done better wording on this because it's confusing, but if you HODL BTC, nothing is ever going to change but the corresponding value of BTC in the market, but the amount you hold wouldn't increase. The amount of money will vary if we are talking about BTC rates.

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I think the value of an item will not change especially what is discussed in this topic is bitcoin. according to my knowledge the value of Bitcoin will not change at any time, what will change is the price may go up or down depending on the future of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: michellee on February 09, 2022, 12:18:46 PM

Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

If you have 1 btc, no matter how much the price is now or in the future, that will remain 1 btc. But if you sell your bitcoin at $40k and you do not buy back, then your money will remain $40k but the bitcoin price could vary, depending on the price at that time.

If you want to buy back bitcoin but the price is at $60k, while your money is only $40k, you will not get 1 btc but less than 1 btc. As long as you do not sell your bitcoin now or in the next 10 years, your 1 btc will remain 1 btc.

If they can not buy something using crypto, they can not own everything. Their crypto will be in the crypto form.

As long those goods wouldnt or cant be bought by crypto then you wouldnt have any choice because it would really always vary or depend on the merchant on a specific place on a country.
There are lots of factors to consider before you could see this which do starts from regulation until government decisions until merchant adoption.Its true that crypto value would remain
intact or the same but the fiat value would always be moving out which neither you do accumulate more or would tend to sell it out on these early years and wont tend
to go in long term which this is actually on self preference.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

If you have 1 btc, no matter how much the price is now or in the future, that will remain 1 btc. But if you sell your bitcoin at $40k and you do not buy back, then your money will remain $40k but the bitcoin price could vary, depending on the price at that time.

If you want to buy back bitcoin but the price is at $60k, while your money is only $40k, you will not get 1 btc but less than 1 btc. As long as you do not sell your bitcoin now or in the next 10 years, your 1 btc will remain 1 btc.

If they can not buy something using crypto, they can not own everything. Their crypto will be in the crypto form.

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its similar to buying a plot of land for $40k and you kept this land for 7-10years interval you can imagine what you should be selling it for if you decide to let it go, So is the case of bitcoin its the coin that's appreciating and not the fiat so what ever quantity you posses still remains what it is but the value appreciates if the coin does same and devalues if it keeps falling

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Quote from: lizarder on February 09, 2022, 02:55:14 AM

Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Good calculation for long term investment preparation, but the question now is to what extent these calculations can be implemented into real investment, everyone has confidence to buy bitcoin at 40k price, then keep in the long term the investment, I think this is an investment preparation step That's right, as long as you can implement the investment in the long term, it's not just a discourse that appears.

Ohh...i see even members here knows im right pretend like they dont know.

We know they will replace fiat why else they created crypto first its gray area in order to wealthy to buy and manipulate with crypto and after they got enough in their hands fiat not needed anymore.
Why else the fed keeping btc alive with huge daily repo
Its so simple and plz members u knows more then me plz dont pretend like u dont know its so fake

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

Good calculation for long term investment preparation, but the question now is to what extent these calculations can be implemented into real investment, everyone has confidence to buy bitcoin at 40k price, then keep in the long term the investment, I think this is an investment preparation step That's right, as long as you can implement the investment in the long term, it's not just a discourse that appears.

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Basically bitcoin will be something that is unique and high priced and it will be different from right now. Basically if you have 1 bitcoin right now, in 7-10 years it will be a lot more, if you have 45k right now, then you can't buy 1 bitcoin in 10 years. That is the mindset, so which one would you prefer, to have 45k or to have 1 bitcoin? That is the price of bitcoin right now, so that would answer so many questions for so many people.

If you think that you would rather have 1 bitcoin, then you know that it would go up in price and that is better, so if most people here prefer 1 bitcoin instead of 45k, that means the price shouldn't even be that low and that is why we believe it will go up.

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Quote from: palle11 on February 08, 2022, 08:07:28 AM

Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc

If in 7-10 years your 1btc will still remember 1 btc but the price may change depending on the rate it is selling at the time. But if you invest and bought another bitcoin for example 1 more then you have 2 btc and can multiply with the current bitcoin price. A btc does not multiply when the price is increasing, it is only the price that will appreciate not the unit of coin that you have.

yeah I'm a little confuse with BTC unit that can change like he said ! ah I think possible that OP considers when the price hit new ATH only 10 years later he bitcoin sold and wait for bitcoin process to go drop then in a short time maybe Cheesy

he buy bitcoin again and make he bitcoin change a lot Grin

(don't understand this)

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc

If in 7-10 years your 1btc will still remember 1 btc but the price may change depending on the rate it is selling at the time. But if you invest and bought another bitcoin for example 1 more then you have 2 btc and can multiply with the current bitcoin price. A btc does not multiply when the price is increasing, it is only the price that will appreciate not the unit of coin that you have.

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1.Learn English.
2.Stop spamming the forum with low quality posts,written in poor English.
3.Cryptocurrencies will never replace fiat money.Perhaps CBDCs(which are NOT cryptocurrencies) might replace paper money at some point,but that doesn't mean anything to me.
4.One Bitcoin is one Bitcoin.I can't understand what exactly are you asking,so this is my answer to your question.
5.Nobody knows what will happen to Bitcoin after 7-10 years.BTC might be bigger than now or it might be gone.

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we admit that BTC is a very good crypto asset in all respects especially value.
but what we are afraid of, when what you say you can't feel or you're gone when the future of BTC arrives, what do you think?
not only we admit, how the future of BTC, but very many out there who admit it.

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It not my point the point are:
If u got one btc and price of btc goes 300k u got 300kx300 of purache power. Once fiat currency will be eliminated

If you have 1 BTC and fiat is already eliminated, what's the point of saying BTC goes to $300,000? $300,000 is fiat. It is not Bitcoin. So by the time fiat is gone, there is no comparing of how much Bitcoin has appreciated in price because the comparison that we are doing right now is based on fiat. By the time fiat is dead, 1 BTC is not $300,000 but simply 1 BTC. It's price will only be reflected on the goods and services that it could purchase.

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Quote from: dimonstration on February 07, 2022, 08:04:26 AM

How come you are assuming that Fiat will be eliminated while you still giving value of BTC in Fiat? It's ironic that you are still using the value fiat for BTC value in the future while you are removing it in the equation. You should value BTC in terms of Gold or other asset that has value instead of fiat that you are hypothetically eradicating in the world economy to make your point have sense. Because no matter how you change your perspectiveon 1BTC value, It will still be 1BTC if you are just holding it. Just change your equivalent value to something else to easliy express your point. But I really understand what you are trying to emphasize here.

That is the thing about crypto, you can have it without fiat at all, you can turn the whole world into crypto legal tender and people would give you prices in satoshis instead of dollars, but that is SO far away that we can't even imagine it and will probably not happen.

Just because something "can" happen doesn't mean that it will happen, we could also spend 100 billion dollars a day funding cancer research and just get a pill that destroys it in a day, it is literally no impossible, but where would we find the money for it? We can't, hence just because it is "possible" doesn't mean it will happen. Crypto will have to keep on being partners with fiat for a long time because of this.

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If you want a long term investment of course you can get massive income afterward. And no one knows how much percentage you can make from it because it depends on the growth rate of bitcoin in the future. Just use estimated price if you really want to know, infact there are some free calculators around the internet for traders how to compute profits at the significant price. Maybe it can help you.

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It not my point the point are:
If u got one btc and price of btc goes 300k u got 300kx300 of purache power. Once fiat currency will be eliminated

How come you are assuming that Fiat will be eliminated while you still giving value of BTC in Fiat? It's ironic that you are still using the value fiat for BTC value in the future while you are removing it in the equation. You should value BTC in terms of Gold or other asset that has value instead of fiat that you are hypothetically eradicating in the world economy to make your point have sense. Because no matter how you change your perspectiveon 1BTC value, It will still be 1BTC if you are just holding it. Just change your equivalent value to something else to easliy express your point. But I really understand what you are trying to emphasize here.

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You may always go back and edit your post as it took a while to understand what is being posted.

Now if you have 1 BTC which is trading at $42k then you have 1 BTC whose value is equivalent to $42k.
If you hold it for ten years and it's value increases by 10x then you have 1 BTC whose value is equivalent to $42000 *10 = $420k .
If you hold it for ten years and it's value decreases by 10X then you still have 1 BTC whose value is equivalent to $42000/10= $4200.

Let's keep these calculations aside and discuss about what matters the most which is patience and controlling our emotions when bitcoin dumps and rises and starts dumping. Only if we are able to hodl bitcoin for such long time we may be able to relate ethe above calculation else we would just be regretting after selling it off

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

If we can get 1 BTC I don't think we will think about working again in those few years.
if we have 1btc and when we never touch or sell then in the next few years our BTC will add more than one what more if break above $40k it will be a big profit.
Moreover, if there is a 1:1 BTC distribution event on the exchange where we store BTC, of course it will be a big miracle for us.

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Value versus price.
1BTC will always be 1BTC unless you move it yourself. But as the value grows then you can spend more by using it in the future. I believe that will happen and I hope it's not just me. Perks of investing on something that has no inflation. They can work on creating more paper money but never in Bitcoin and the best part is some of it are missing, gone, buried, etc.. that could increase the value.

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Quote from: 325btc on February 06, 2022, 12:12:32 PM

In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

You have expressed yourself like crap here.

I will explain in another way what I have understood, to see if it is clearer.

Fiat has a tendency to depreciate, and Bitcoin has a tendency to appreciate a lot. So, if you use fiat to buy Bitcoin in the future you will be much better off than if you do not.

$40K in fiat today will become $20K in the future.

Conversely a Bitcoin that costs you $40K today will be worth $80 and more in the future.

I don't see Bitcoin becoming a unit of account unless it is a long time from now.

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Alright. So if you had 1 bitcoin, and bitcoin's price multiplied in the future, you end up having a lot more buying power because your 1 bitcoin is worth a lot more. Sorry, but what's the new discovery here?

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not sure where you are getting this random 325 number from(both me and you never said this number at all.. plus it related to nothing seen before)

i even checked if it was gold related, because you mentioned gold
gold cap is estimated (but not fixed) to be or surpass: 190,000tonnes or
190,000,000kilograms or
6,702,052,770 ounces

1 ounce is $1800
1kg=$63,493.20
1tonne=$63,493,200
...
or if basing on $40k for 1btc
1btc= 22 ounces or 0.63kg
maybe you meant.. possibly... 352 ounces per 10kg??

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Quote from: franky1 on February 06, 2022, 01:05:54 PM

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Quote from: franky1 on February 06, 2022, 12:16:23 PM

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if you have 1btc. and never touch it.. you will still have 1btc in the future.
if the bitcoin value becomes more then you can sell your btc for more.

In the future your 1 btc purache power will be multiply with the 1 btc price if btc is 300k by then it means your one coin is worthed 300k and you also have 300k pieces of coins and one coin is worthed 300k

your wording sounds better than your first post,
and yes if btc was $300k
then yes 1btc=$300k
and yes 333sat (0.00000333btc) =$1

Yep, if u do the math it adds up btw...it has same number combination with gold 325 those number cominations been worked out long time ago

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Quote from: franky1 on February 06, 2022, 12:16:23 PM

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if you have 1btc. and never touch it.. you will still have 1btc in the future.
if the bitcoin value becomes more then you can sell your btc for more.

In the future your 1 btc purache power will be multiply with the 1 btc price if btc is 300k by then it means your one coin is worthed 300k and you also have 300k pieces of coins and one coin is worthed 300k

your wording sounds better than your first post,
and yes if btc was $300k
then yes 1btc=$300k
and yes 333sat (0.00000333btc) =$1

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??
if you have 1btc. and never touch it.. you will still have 1btc in the future.
if the bitcoin value becomes more then you can sell your 1btc for more.

it does not mean if the btc price becomes $80k, you magically then have 2btc.. it means 1btc is now $80k

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In the future if you have one btc and it cost 40k.
Then it means in 7-10 years about you dont have one btc
But...you have 40k btc as in the future we dont count value by fiat currency the crypto will be the currency.
Those who got crypto will own everything.
It means with 40k btc you have purache power 40k x 40k=? A lot lambos a lot lands a lot mansions.

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