Btc dump. It is time for some alts to recover against BTC

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

for xrp it seems to be difficult to increase, i think the influence of xrp has been affected by btc. So I think this is one of the things that might have to happen if the BTC pump returns.

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Quote from: semobo on August 01, 2019, 04:24:55 PM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

yes definitely that dump is happening for Bitcoin but the development of other currency is not in the hand of the people when it go with your Bull run only it had some changes so both the Bitcoin and other currency need some changes right now this is what I expecting the end of this year to be successful for everything

of course gaining the trust of investors can influence the development of altcoin. like now we know that investor investment is diminishing, with less satisfying IEO. I think it needs positive news to grow investor confidence in altcoins

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

yes definitely that dump is happening for Bitcoin but the development of other currency is not in the hand of the people when it go with your Bull run only it had some changes so both the Bitcoin and other currency need some changes right now this is what I expecting the end of this year to be successful for everything

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Quote from: jonaire99 on July 31, 2019, 02:15:08 AM

I've been waiting for the bitcoin to go down in $7500 level so I can be able to buy again. I believe bitcoin will dip further in the coming month of August before climbing back again. If bifcoin become bearish in the month of August, it could be a time for the altcoins to go up. Xrp have a potential to go up more jn the future because it is supported by many international banks

With bitcoin current price drop,i don't see more possibilities that it will break its resistance and goes down even more.I only see it as it will start to recover again in the next days so definitely altcoins cannot take advantage with bitcoin,not today or even in the next days.But still when it comes to altcoins investment,i still believe Ethereum will follow the path of bitcoin too.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on July 30, 2019, 11:04:24 AM

I know that the value had once increased to like $4, but that was when ripple introduced, and you know the initial Adrenalin that usually push people into new investment believing something great will comes out of it was what forced the value that high, but now that many people has really seen them for who they are, I doubt if we will have many people that will still give a shit to this coin, because I have looked at the technology of ripple, and honestly, I don’t know where it actually fits in.

Same here, I've looked at the tech and sure, cheap, fast, scalable, but which other altcoin doesn't already do that, and with better decentralization and better liquidity, and less scandals surrounding it? I think any coin that started out as an ICO is always going to be tough to manage down the line -- talking about you TRX, EOS, whatever guys too btw;)

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Just a couple of days or last week Bitcoin went down below 10k$ which is 8900$ and now it resume again at more than 10k$, were most of the altcoins so far are still on stage of cheap price value in the market. And XRP at the moment was 0.00003 sats which is good to buy now also for bitcoin too.

As long as XRP can stay at 3k satoshi, I think that is a good price to buy especially if xrp price can down below than 3k satoshi. I agree that when XRP increase, it does not depend on bitcoin movements because XRP can increase independently. So right now, we should buy more xrp in the market, so we don't miss the chance to sell when the price rises.

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Quote from: RondoAnyar on August 01, 2019, 10:56:53 PM

for xrp it seems to be difficult to increase, i think the influence of xrp has been affected by btc. So I think this is one of the things that might have to happen if the BTC pump returns.

You can't underestimate XRP, it's a sleeping giant, and based on my observation in its price history, it doesn't need BTC to pump so it could follow, XRP can rise independently on its own and that's the reason why XRP was the most profitable coin during the last bull run.

https://qz.com/1169000/ripple-was-the-best-performing-cryptocurrency-of-2017-beating-bitcoin/

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Just a couple of days or last week Bitcoin went down below 10k$ which is 8900$ and now it resume again at more than 10k$, were most of the altcoins so far are still on stage of cheap price value in the market. And XRP at the moment was 0.00003 sats which is good to buy now also for bitcoin too.

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Quote from: semobo on August 01, 2019, 04:24:55 PM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

yes definitely that dump is happening for Bitcoin but the development of other currency is not in the hand of the people when it go with your Bull run only it had some changes so both the Bitcoin and other currency need some changes right now this is what I expecting the end of this year to be successful for everything

Definitely you should look the bitcoin chart right now since the price has been bounce back to $10.4k, it was dumped to $9.5k but it's already back right now.

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no matter what it looks like. the altcoins are suffering bitterly in this current trade. quite unfair bitcoin controls 60% of the market. altcoins are no where to be found and it keeps getting worst everyday. we might see altcoins not recovering again.

My best altcoins remains bitcoin cash, Quant and Bat.

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Quote from: jonaire99 on July 31, 2019, 02:15:08 AM

I've been waiting for the bitcoin to go down in $7500 level so I can be able to buy again. I believe bitcoin will dip further in the coming month of August before climbing back again. If bifcoin become bearish in the month of August, it could be a time for the altcoins to go up. Xrp have a potential to go up more jn the future because it is supported by many international banks

Can you provide good analysis why you think bitcoin is going to deep further by August? Because from all the indications both (technical and fundamental) bitcoin is going to do well in August. The Golden crossing that was promoted in Twitter has happened and currency bitcoin has crossed 50ma as at yesterday. The interest rate cut that happen on Wednesday is another indication that in four to five days to come bitcoin should be above $11,120 one of the strongest and hard to break resistance level. However, if you have your view why bitcoin is going to go down this month, it will be good if you provide it here outside what you just post.

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Quote from: jonaire99 on July 31, 2019, 02:15:08 AM

I've been waiting for the bitcoin to go down in $7500 level so I can be able to buy again. I believe bitcoin will dip further in the coming month of August before climbing back again. If bifcoin become bearish in the month of August, it could be a time for the altcoins to go up. Xrp have a potential to go up more jn the future because it is supported by many international banks

Oh, so you are among all these people having all these negative mentality about bitcoin going that low, well for your information, I doubt if you will ever see such price again. Don’t let you case be like the case of those intending investors that wen bitcoin rose $5000, they werewaiting for it to deep back to $3500, and when the price further increased to $6500, they picked $4500 as dip, and this was how the value increased more than what they could afford and they are still left hanging.

Don’t be left hanging, because I am sure that this was the same mentality you had till bitcoin hit $13800, and I am sure that in the next couple of weeks, that is where we will be getting back to till the consolidation time approaches. So better invest now if you want to invest at all.

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I've been waiting for the bitcoin to go down in $7500 level so I can be able to buy again. I believe bitcoin will dip further in the coming month of August before climbing back again. If bifcoin become bearish in the month of August, it could be a time for the altcoins to go up. Xrp have a potential to go up more jn the future because it is supported by many international banks

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Quote from: aditasetia123 on July 26, 2019, 10:44:54 AM

i see xrp now in low price level now and it should be best opportunity for us to take it in our wallet. 3200 satoshi was cheap price for coins liek xrp.rather than investing in coins that still have no future better to buy ripple.

What makes you think that ripple will give you that better future you are talking of here, I guess you are probably saying this because you have invested so much in it, and you have to do everything possible to shill it so you can see some increase, but sorry for you mate, I am not so sure that tipple can increase again.

I know that the value had once increased to like $4, but that was when ripple introduced, and you know the initial Adrenalin that usually push people into new investment believing something great will comes out of it was what forced the value that high, but now that many people has really seen them for who they are, I doubt if we will have many people that will still give a shit to this coin, because I have looked at the technology of ripple, and honestly, I don’t know where it actually fits in.

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In my opinion there is no good thing when btc dump, altcoin recover depends on how their developers have innovations to drive demand. XRP menurut saya punya reputasi buruk dipasar, saran saya lebih baik ETH, LTC ataupun BCH.

I don’t know about the last part of your message, but how many altcoins nowadays really rely or increase in innovation, many investors don’t even care about the innovation anymore, all they want to see is just to invest and start counting some cool cash when the value increase, those developers too are even not looking after the innovation again, which is why they end up become zero at the end of the day.

Some of those developers only promote just to get attention of the investor, which is why you see them talk little of their projects itself, and then talk more of how their token can increase to in future, thereby making the investor to just focus on the increase and not the innovation. This is exactly what ends most altcoins, the moment the investors makes the money, he never looks back to see how the technology itself can be beneficial to him.

I agree. our main concern is price. technology has been put aside a lot, so for the current situation, I only follow the biggest volume of cryptocurrency, namely bitcoin. for altcoins, I think it still depends on bitcoin, it can be seen altcoin is following down when bitcoin goes down, and there is no significant increase at this time

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I think so that it's time to recover some alts. And yes your prediction is really good. XRP didn't rise very well in long time and i think also that this is right time for XRP to rise up to 5000 sat. It's a really good alt coin and have some great future. ETH,LTC and BNB also have some chance to bump for while. Now we'll see what happen... Wink

i see xrp now in low price level now and it should be best opportunity for us to take it in our wallet. 3200 satoshi was cheap price for coins liek xrp.rather than investing in coins that still have no future better to buy ripple.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Although Bitcoin has declined slightly in recent days, it has to be said today that the price has reached the required levels. Bitcoin, which has not been able to make a healthy rise especially due to the fact that it gained value very fast in recent weeks, has now acquired stable positions and healthy support and resistance points. Of course, Bitcoin is in such a fast rise and fall, unfortunately other crypto coins have lost much value. As you mentioned, the XRP has reached very low levels and it will be very difficult to recover. Even though there is a partial uptrend with a new correction, I do not think that the XRP trader will be very happy nowadays.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on July 24, 2019, 01:24:11 PM

In my opinion there is no good thing when btc dump, altcoin recover depends on how their developers have innovations to drive demand. XRP menurut saya punya reputasi buruk dipasar, saran saya lebih baik ETH, LTC ataupun BCH.

I don’t know about the last part of your message, but how many altcoins nowadays really rely or increase in innovation, many investors don’t even care about the innovation anymore, all they want to see is just to invest and start counting some cool cash when the value increase, those developers too are even not looking after the innovation again, which is why they end up become zero at the end of the day.

Some of those developers only promote just to get attention of the investor, which is why you see them talk little of their projects itself, and then talk more of how their token can increase to in future, thereby making the investor to just focus on the increase and not the innovation. This is exactly what ends most altcoins, the moment the investors makes the money, he never looks back to see how the technology itself can be beneficial to him.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I think so that it's time to recover some alts. And yes your prediction is really good. XRP didn't rise very well in long time and i think also that this is right time for XRP to rise up to 5000 sat. It's a really good alt coin and have some great future. ETH,LTC and BNB also have some chance to bump for while. Now we'll see what happen... Wink

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on July 24, 2019, 01:24:11 PM

In my opinion there is no good thing when btc dump, altcoin recover depends on how their developers have innovations to drive demand.

Some alts still do gain against their BTC ratios when BTC does dump, though, and if you manage to take these opportunities you can make a pretty decent profit in my experience. Innovations by developers also do help altcoins recover in price (and even gain a lot in price sometimes), but in the shorter term when BTC dumps there are indeed times when certain alts recover and some don't.

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In my opinion there is no good thing when btc dump, altcoin recover depends on how their developers have innovations to drive demand. XRP menurut saya punya reputasi buruk dipasar, saran saya lebih baik ETH, LTC ataupun BCH.

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I do not agree with you with the point is BTC will go down about $7700. Yes, it is right that the market is up down 9500-10500$ area. But I don't think that BTC will huge to $7700. I guess it will go back up from more than 8800$. And really the altcoin market is very bad and still running to bearish. I am not seeing any shine about bull run altcoin market . Thanks

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 23, 2019, 12:45:42 AM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

If pick good alts maybe it can recover when bitcoin price dump. But i think XRP is not a bad coin to pick. Because it have a lot of supporters, maybe my choice after ETH and XLM lumens. Or maybe pick Litecoin is good too.

Based on my own analysis, if bitcoin price fails and experiencing a price dropdown, altcoins will follow. But the fact that bitcoin had risen up but still altcoins are still in a low price, it only proves that altcoins will really have its own time to recover and not just following the path of bitcoin.

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many coin down almost -1000% and xrp is an major coin which mean xrp price is follow btc price ( USD pair ) when btc dump Xrp is also dump but at ( BTC pair) maybe little pump to adjust the price

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I really don't think XRP will pump at this stage. It is one of the top alts but it is not a technology enterprise that is devoting much to the crypto market.
it is only a centralized system and is considered a big bank in crypto. The growth will not be comparable to other technology alts such as ETH, EOS, and Monero.
Don't buy it just because XRP has many fans and they always fomo.

I still really do not understand the technology of ripple and what its community is really using it for, that is if they have any community at all, because their activities in quite strange to me, just recently, barely some weeks back, Litecoin was almost topping ripple and displacing it off its position, because the market cap was almost same, but check ripple now, you will see that the market cap has already doubled that of Litecoin and yet their value still remain the same.

Litecoin that only increased slightly has even added to its value, which means people are just deceiving themselves thinking ripple is an investment coin, ripple is more like just a stable coin, and it will shock its investors how the altcoins season will come, step up other coin and still will not have any effect on ripple.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

If pick good alts maybe it can recover when bitcoin price dump. But i think XRP is not a bad coin to pick. Because it have a lot of supporters, maybe my choice after ETH and XLM lumens. Or maybe pick Litecoin is good too.

All the coins you stated are good coins, you can buy it now as they are cheap actually but you also have to put in mind that they need time to grow, and that timing could possibly come when bitcoin is doing better rising and reaching a new ATH.

I think for an investment, no matter about time as long it can give us profit we should wait for it. Investment itself actually something that need to be done in long term and for me, if in short time maybe i will call it trading activity.

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No, things like that are still possible, because what Alts needs to recover is a stable Bitcoin price, not in Bullish or Bearish conditions. Because when the Bitcoin dumps, Alts simultaneously panics. or most likely also switched to ETH because it was the dominant one besides BTC.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 23, 2019, 12:45:42 AM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

If pick good alts maybe it can recover when bitcoin price dump. But i think XRP is not a bad coin to pick. Because it have a lot of supporters, maybe my choice after ETH and XLM lumens. Or maybe pick Litecoin is good too.

All the coins you stated are good coins, you can buy it now as they are cheap actually but you also have to put in mind that they need time to grow, and that timing could possibly come when bitcoin is doing better rising and reaching a new ATH.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

It could be one of the bad deicision you ever made,atleast you sell them at 10000 ssats to gain some profits now everything is out of hand I guess but still XRP is not going for zero in the near end so you can wait for the recovery and immediately sell when it gets the decent price.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

If pick good alts maybe it can recover when bitcoin price dump. But i think XRP is not a bad coin to pick. Because it have a lot of supporters, maybe my choice after ETH and XLM lumens. Or maybe pick Litecoin is good too.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I don't see any possibility for altcoins to move against Bitcoin because from what we have seen in recent time when Bitcoin is going up some altcoins are busy going and when Bitcoin is going down they are still going down, so the possibility of altcoins going against bitcoin is very insignificant.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 20, 2019, 04:05:44 AM

Majority of altcoin should gain against BTC in the coming week. After consilidation, it will be BTC turn again to reach ATH + level and then cycle should repeat for the real alt season.

So what is you base for categorically telling people bitcoin will consolidate next week, because I have still not see any sign of bitcoin consolidating yet, although I know that within this year, bitcoin must consolidate, but I still expect some increase in bitcoin first, before it starts to go sideways, my forecast is that bitcoin will increase to $15000 first, then correct a little bit before bitcoin would start consolidating.

Anyway, the coming week is almost here, and then we can see if you are a great predictors or not. i have already prepared for the altcoins season long time ago because I have filled my portfolio already with some coins I know should at least do 10x in the coming bull run, so I am all set and anytime the altcoins season wants to come, it is absolutely free to come.

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The recent bitcoin market movement have shows that altcoins season is not far away any more,the drop in bitcoin is nothing but a correction that actually works

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I really don't think XRP will pump at this stage. It is one of the top alts but it is not a technology enterprise that is devoting much to the crypto market.
it is only a centralized system and is considered a big bank in crypto. The growth will not be comparable to other technology alts such as ETH, EOS, and Monero.
Don't buy it just because XRP has many fans and they always fomo.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level.

I don't think this is a possible guess because btc is on bull area at this time. It might drop just as it did yesterday and to few hours back but at the moment, it is picking up again heading for another sharp run.

We can't be sure that it won't be dropping hard and it possible to be since we have it early this year reaching $4k and below. The assurance that Bitcoin price will be picking up at its high again is soo thin.
Any speculations we have now is not really at very near to what is possible to happen cause we understand its volatility features and have to accept it.

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You're absolutely right. Altcoins will recover finally. So if you have some btc, better turn them into altcoins , like top 10-100 . It will increase your fortune

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As of this time, bitcoin is still bullish in higher time frames so it may continue to go up unless bad news against the top cryptocurrency bring it down. Some altcoins like ethereum are now in downtrend after few weeks of price rally. Xrp, on the contrary, may continue to climb due to its positive oulook. It means, not all altcoins are down during bitcoin rally, several of them are also going up bucking the trend.

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Quote from: Klausi on July 18, 2019, 06:53:51 PM

Actually that's how altcoins and bitcoin behaves along the way as price continued to fluctuate during each and every price rally. If it's time for the alts to recover at certain value, then it's time for buyers who have long term trading goals to take actions and shouldn't miss it.

The behavior of altcoins is very odd now. They seem not to depend so great on Bitcoin.

On the other hand, they are waving stronger than before, and these fluctuations have become visible - some tokens can add/lose up to 20% in less than a decade. I guess if a day trader has a bunch of altcoins in his portfolio and he is also a very experienced guy in this field, now, this is a very good period for making money.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on July 19, 2019, 09:00:05 AM

Yeah the high dominance of btc causing the alt coin hard to recover, but the alt will have difficulty to rise if the btc dropping too fast, but I think soon btc will rise again and making the alt price going down, the setback is just temporary the support of btc still high

Altcoin prices in USD will keep rising as long as Bitcoin does, so that's what people should be going for. If you convert your precious Bitcoins to altcoins you will pay the price for it. Thinking that altcoins have suffered a lot already and that they can't go down further is pure bs. Altcoins can and will very likely go down more against Bitcoin.

People hoping for an altcoin season to save them are going to be really disappointed (much more so than they are already). You need to find specific exotic altcoins to pump, but which ones, and what is the criteria making altcoin X or Y a "good" choice? Gambling is the name of the game. Luck is what you need with how altcoins suck in the fundamental value department.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I agreed and I am also holding some XRP as its undervalued as of now. As some member here in this thread and as well on this forum are advising not to go for XRP due to its centralize nature but I think its good for some short term investment, even long term profit cannot be ruled out. If XRP is adopted by bigger banks for international transactions then its value may rise like anything. Banking systems are yet to adopt blockchain technologies, once banking systems around the world realize the power of blockchain, coins like XRP will shoot to moon.

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Quote from: Klausi on July 18, 2019, 06:53:51 PM

Actually that's how altcoins and bitcoin behaves along the way as price continued to fluctuate during each and every price rally. If it's time for the alts to recover at certain value, then it's time for buyers who have long term trading goals to take actions and shouldn't miss it.

It's generally how they behave, that's true, but it's not always the case in the past. I'm sure many will remember the so called flippening for Eth, that of course just never happened. There will be some time again I'm sure for alts to move ahead of Bitcoin, but that will always be temporary and rare in between btc rises.

I don't generally feel that the estimation of certain alts bridge with bitcoin, on the grounds that we know about the extraordinary tittle of bitcoin that stands as the main resource among monetary forms. In any case, there is immense of propensity that altcoins will develop accomodately.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

You posted this on July 17.Four days later and BTC is around 10,520 USD.Your short term prediction was wrong,OP.

How can altcoins recovers if 99% of them are just lame bitcoin clones and most of them usually follow the bitcoin price movements.If bitcoin goes down,altcoins will go down as well.Last year,some altcoins were pumped,while bitcoin was in a bear trend,but that was mostly a crypto whale manipulation and it won't happen again anytime soon.

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Quote from: Klausi on July 18, 2019, 06:53:51 PM

Actually that's how altcoins and bitcoin behaves along the way as price continued to fluctuate during each and every price rally. If it's time for the alts to recover at certain value, then it's time for buyers who have long term trading goals to take actions and shouldn't miss it.

It's generally how they behave, that's true, but it's not always the case in the past. I'm sure many will remember the so called flippening for Eth, that of course just never happened. There will be some time again I'm sure for alts to move ahead of Bitcoin, but that will always be temporary and rare in between btc rises.

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Yeah the high dominance of btc causing the alt coin hard to recover, but the alt will have difficulty to rise if the btc dropping too fast, but I think soon btc will rise again and making the alt price going down, the setback is just temporary the support of btc still high

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I am in the same boat.XRP value may increase in a short time, there is no decrease in value & volume of XRP trading, still its in top 5 places. BTC and ETH have good growth in bull market but due their high coin values its a bit difficult for anyone to take decision on XRP or XLm investment.
I must say keep holding your coins, good time is there on the calendar, do not worry you will get desired value of your coins.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 18, 2019, 04:18:07 AM

I do not understand what the alts are waiting for at all. When bitcoin goes up they go down because bitcoin is going up and their worth are pegged to dollar instead of bitcoin so their dollar value is either same or a bit less while their bitcoin value goes down a lot.

When bitcoin goes down they go down with it in dollar value as well for some reason while keeping the bitcoin value same. So with this logic whatever happens to bitcoin the eventual outcome is altcoins going down in price, what are they going to fall to zero dollars? That doesn't happen neither, sometimes all of a sudden out of nowhere altcoin prices start to go up, it is not because btc went up or down, it just happens without any reasoning at all. It is really hard to predict these things overall.

I do not think they will go to zero, you are only looking at it from the perspective of coins that are below top 100, what of the coins within the top 100, they are the ones that really have use case, and virtually all of those coins respond to bitcoin when it increases, same as they respond also when they decrease in value.

Remember also, that there is a time called altcoins seasons, and this is the time that most altcoins usually surge in price, although they all still depend on bitcoin too, because bitcoin will have to consolidate first before altcoins can start having their own bull run, and most of these altcoins that seems to you like they are zeroing will surely pick up, I think this should be best time to add some altcoins to our basket, especially ones that are still within the top 50 coins in the market.

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Quote from: Oceat on July 17, 2019, 01:50:56 PM

We are done already in the bearish trend it's time for the bullish trend this year.

You never know mate. Nobody has seen the future. Hence the probability is 50 - 50.

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Although the price of Bitcoin yesterday dropped to $9.3k but thankfully it just started to rise a little at $9.8k this time.
This might be another correction of the price again but didn't expect the price to go down at this point.

We can see that it has further increased to a price of $10.5k. It's currently going sideways. It's hard to say whether it will go upwards or downwards from this point.

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And why is that someone still believes in XRP even though they know already that it is a centralized currency?

Lol

. It's bound to disrupt in the future. No matter how hard the XRP developers try to promote XRP shit, it's never gonna turn them into a fortune.
Besides that, now since the Libra coin is going to be released, it's gonna be way tough for XRP to stand a chance to compete against Libra.
Although Libra is again a centralized currency, it can beat XRP as it has a wide area of support.

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I think altcoins are having a bit of trouble getting new money into them and that seems to be their biggest problem for now. I mean not that many people want to buy ethereum for example, they want to buy bitcoin or they do not want to be in crypto but the amount of people who want to directly go into eth is not really that much. It drops the price of ethereum of course because there are sellers but not that many buyers, the people who buy ethereum are the traders and already investing people but "new" people are nowhere to be found.

If we can find a reason for people to go back on altcoins then the price may increase again but until then there seems to be no way for altcoins to recover for now. That ethereum example was just an example, same applies to all altcoins of course.

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Majority of altcoin should gain against BTC in the coming week. After consilidation, it will be BTC turn again to reach ATH + level and then cycle should repeat for the real alt season.

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Quote from: Klausi on July 18, 2019, 06:53:51 PM

Actually that's how altcoins and bitcoin behaves along the way as price continued to fluctuate during each and every price rally. If it's time for the alts to recover at certain value, then it's time for buyers who have long term trading goals to take actions and shouldn't miss it.

I'm not sure this is going to happen. Bitcoin is still dominating at the market and alts are not going up. Although there is a possibility for Bitcoin price to dump even further.
Still so far I haven't noticed direkt connection between Bitcoin and altcoins in term of price fluctuations and I don't expect for alts to respond on Bitcoin price changes.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Not sure about that because bitcoin still below than $11k and it needs time before the price can increase. And for XRP, I don't think that the price can increase so soon even if bitcoin price is at a low price like today. But everything can happen as we know that the market can run without anyone can predict, and the price can touch any price. I only hope that XRP can increase higher like before and if that happens, I will sell some of XRP in my wallet and I hope that I can make a lot of satoshis.

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Quote from: Pursuer on July 17, 2019, 09:53:51 AM

first of all this is not a bitcoin "dump" it is a drop. and you should really know the difference between these basic things if you are in a trading discussion board otherwise it is a better idea if you stay away from trading.
secondly whenever bitcoin price drops, the altcoins go down with it. and a quick look at the altcoin market shows that this time the altcoins are going down like always so there is no exceptions happening here either. in fact one of the reasons why the altcoin market is turning into a big bloodbath is exactly these bitcoin price rise and falls since altcoins go down in both cases.

If you are checking USD value you are correct when BTC drop altcoin drop as well. But crpyto traders trade btc with other crypto pairs (altcoins) not with USD. In this case if BTC drop other part of a pair (altcoin) your are trading with should go up.

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Actually that's how altcoins and bitcoin behaves along the way as price continued to fluctuate during each and every price rally. If it's time for the alts to recover at certain value, then it's time for buyers who have long term trading goals to take actions and shouldn't miss it.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

It will take a long time for alts to grow strongly. As of 2017, when BTC dominates over 70%, alts still cannot grow and it seems that only BTC is a strong increase.
After that, the bubble started to explode, when BTC's Dominance was only about 35% - 40%, then the alts began to increase sharply.
We will also see a strong pump price from BTC and history will continue to repeat.
In my opinion, it's still time to buy BTC and sell it at $ 12k.

But in my opinion, to be more vigilant about bitcoin because according to my technical analysis and looking at the previous chart, bitcoin is still forming a pattern to go down even further. I personally cannot buy bitcoin at this time, I will still wait until the end of the month and look back, which way bitcoin will go. I also hope that as you would expect the price of $12k+ to return, but the alert is more important and more important is to use your own analysis.

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 19, 2019, 02:03:37 AM

because as bitcoin has dumped now, many investor will not be able to get any profit out to pump into altcoins, and most altcoins usually dump along with bitcoin anytime it dumps.

But, after recent dump Bitcoin is increasing once again slowly. With 6% change, sure investor will get their profit back in no long time.

The interesting point is:

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

From what we have seen in this past 2 months, that Bitcoin's pump is really dominant than other altcoins. while altcoin is slowly recovering this time. You may have seen some altcoins going up and down in this month.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

What makes you think that it is time for altcoins to start their own bull run, I know the coming of their bull run is very at hand, but the factor that will see to that is not the dumping of bitcoin, because as bitcoin has dumped now, many investor will not be able to get any profit out to pump into altcoins, and most altcoins usually dump along with bitcoin anytime it dumps.

The only time that virtually all altcoins respond to bull run is when bitcoin goes sideways, so the time we should wait for is when bitcoin will go sideways, that is when many of those altcoins will beginning to surge very high in value and probably have a record of another new all-time high before bitcoin continues on its bull journey. Most altcoins shave really reduced now and I think it is time to go for some of them.

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BTC dominance is still higj up to 40% and if btc dominance has not dropped alt can not ride. So a dump in the price of btc will not cause alts to rise neither will a rise in btc cause alts to rise. Alts rise when btc dominance has reduced and this happens when Btc is stable not when it is dumping or rising

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Quote from: Malamok101 on July 18, 2019, 09:27:35 AM

Against bitcoin, bitcoin is the best for me to buy don't loss up some hope to buy and hold bitcoin and switch up to invest in other coins just wait for you big oppurtunity waiting up for bitcoin. Wink

There are many reasons to stay in the BTC market for lucrative exits. If you have a Bitcoin, keep hodling and if you do not have one, better invest in the coin. The reason behind the endorsement is of course the next Bitcoin halving. Before to the halving, we should be expecting the history to repeat itself in the form of a rise in the market value of the coin.

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Quote from: Btczhageh on July 18, 2019, 08:29:33 AM

Things have change and we shouldn't expect much from Altcoins this time compared to last years, when the fall of Bitcoin always lead to the uprising or uprise of the Altcoins in the market. Much more like this will be for a long time from now if ever we will see such opportunity again. Altcoins period are over and maybe be for another decades.

Is not. It seems that it will be a long-term adjustment from the need and long-term awareness of the people to altcoin to be strengthened. But in fact, altcoin's recent recovery is very slow, it seems to be a general sentiment.

It absolutely it takes time before it recovers, we've passing 1year since fall but still, altcoins are not moving back, it may be 1-2years isn't enough. Back then, we can BTC at its move by now and the market started to green again but not just it feels so good cause it is really not showing a good impact. And we are still at a long gap to fill.

That is excessively, and I truly felt so terrible watching the market of altcoins not evolving positively. Be that as it may, I must be progressively hopeful at this point and change my mentality too, in light of the fact that when I become disillusioned at extremely basic circumstance nothing will occur. For me to continue, holding my altcoins will be my best choices to accomplish for the time being until it completely recuperates at certain productive cost.

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The same pattern keeps repeating. Eventually a lot of money will go back into altcoins and their gains will out perform bitcoin. It is only a matter of time so make sure you have your investments spread out among all of the top coins. Ethereum is looking like a great buy right now.

Typically that's the best opportunities for all traders to buy their preferred altcoins now, and as recommendations they should check coinmarketcap history. These tokens and coins had previously bounce once into very profitable price so it could possibly be reached again. If you have blockfolio in your mobile phones, signs were all green showing consistent altcoins price increase.

It is not necessary to look at CMC whose giving the best cause it is obvious that the top coins listed in the market are on the lead. We have to be in the right position in order to make more profitable and considering these coins, we can assure for ROI in the future. We can't make it in a short period of time, but of worthy to hold for many years.

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Quote from: Indamuck on July 18, 2019, 08:20:11 AM

The same pattern keeps repeating. Eventually a lot of money will go back into altcoins and their gains will out perform bitcoin. It is only a matter of time so make sure you have your investments spread out among all of the top coins. Ethereum is looking like a great buy right now.

Typically that's the best opportunities for all traders to buy their preferred altcoins now, and as recommendations they should check coinmarketcap history. These tokens and coins had previously bounce once into very profitable price so it could possibly be reached again. If you have blockfolio in your mobile phones, signs were all green showing consistent altcoins price increase.

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Quote from: Btczhageh on July 18, 2019, 08:29:33 AM

Things have change and we shouldn't expect much from Altcoins this time compared to last years, when the fall of Bitcoin always lead to the uprising or uprise of the Altcoins in the market. Much more like this will be for a long time from now if ever we will see such opportunity again. Altcoins period are over and maybe be for another decades.

Is not. It seems that it will be a long-term adjustment from the need and long-term awareness of the people to altcoin to be strengthened. But in fact, altcoin's recent recovery is very slow, it seems to be a general sentiment.

It absolutely it takes time before it recovers, we've passing 1year since fall but still, altcoins are not moving back, it may be 1-2years isn't enough. Back then, we can BTC at its move by now and the market started to green again but not just it feels so good cause it is really not showing a good impact. And we are still at a long gap to fill.

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As the bitcoin has got dumped the same is being followed by the altcoins. If the altcoins have stood stable without fall then it could've caused a recovery against bitcoin. Even now more altcoin investments were moved to the bitcoin as the market gets strong with large scale adoption happening around. Till now there isn't any mutual growth on altcoins along with bitcoin. Probably by the next bull trend there will be growth of bitcoin and altcoins taking place on equal level.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Btc on the way again on up trend. I have seen alts was not much volatility even bitcoin was dump little bit. I am suspecting alts will not recover during bitcoin volatility. Perhaps we will see recover when bitcoin stop volatility. It was not happend with XRP, it is happen with. Hope very soon alts will recover.

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Quote from: Btczhageh on July 18, 2019, 08:29:33 AM

Things have change and we shouldn't expect much from Altcoins this time compared to last years, when the fall of Bitcoin always lead to the uprising or uprise of the Altcoins in the market. Much more like this will be for a long time from now if ever we will see such opportunity again. Altcoins period are over and maybe be for another decades.

Is not. It seems that it will be a long-term adjustment from the need and long-term awareness of the people to altcoin to be strengthened. But in fact, altcoin's recent recovery is very slow, it seems to be a general sentiment.

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Quote from: TheBusstop on July 17, 2019, 02:16:10 PM

~snip~

Ethereum just made a mess of it self by considering bitcoincash blockchain for transaction issue.. i doubt how long this will long and i wonder if it will retain its second spot in the market.

What is that? I am not much up to date about the technology change for Ethereum. Do you have a article or something so that I can have a look to understand the work currently going on with Ethereum or has already done?

Cheers :-)

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Quote from: TIDOVEE on July 17, 2019, 02:41:47 PM

i don't think the dump of bitcoin is the guarantee if other altcoin recovering against it, they are also affected by the same condition, it is not today the bitcoin value will drop or flunctuate, so, i will wish we don't just start running bitcoin down at this time.lets hope it will still recover.

Until now we have also still not seen the price of Altcoin indicating a significant movement, this certainly makes the Altcoin holders have more patience to get the desired profit. So don't be too hopeful if the price Bitcoin dump then the price Altcoin will Up, it's old story, now is different.

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Altcoins seem to be making strides since today, but I wouldn't get over excited about that, I doubt altcoins season can come again, more so when the bitcoin dropped by quite an amount in the last twenty four hours.
It there is any control over the other, then it's definitely the bitcoin over alts, this is just a minor rally by alts and soon the charts will normalize with the bitcoin taking precedence.

So before thinking of ditching the bitcoin to go for Ats cos there are in the green now, remember the bitcoin remains king and affords more safety than the rest

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and I think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Altciins are in the green this afternoon when bitcoin is in red and it is a sign that some of them have started recovery against bitcoin! I said in this forum about two weeks ago that "if altcoins are going to recover it has to be when bitcoin is dumping" and that is what we are seeing happening now. I believe for this days that bitcoin is making corrections it is better to convert it to some of the altcoins that we knew are going to recovered.

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Quote from: Indamuck on July 18, 2019, 08:20:11 AM

The same pattern keeps repeating. Eventually a lot of money will go back into altcoins and their gains will out perform bitcoin. It is only a matter of time so make sure you have your investments spread out among all of the top coins. Ethereum is looking like a great buy right now.

It's not even over for Bitcoin yet, yes I know there will ne a season for the alts but I don't think it will be as early as BTC's next attempt for a new ATH. These kinds of correction where it makes the market bleed says that BTC still has some influence on other coins and there shows no signs that there will be transferring one coin from another. If we start to see price differences and opposite directions towards BTC's price movement then it will be alt season.

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Against bitcoin, bitcoin is the best for me to buy don't loss up some hope to buy and hold bitcoin and switch up to invest in other coins just wait for you big oppurtunity waiting up for bitcoin. Wink

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Things have change and we shouldn't expect much from Altcoins this time compared to last years, when the fall of Bitcoin always lead to the uprising or uprise of the Altcoins in the market. Much more like this will be for a long time from now if ever we will see such opportunity again. Altcoins period are over and maybe be for another decades.

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The same pattern keeps repeating. Eventually a lot of money will go back into altcoins and their gains will out perform bitcoin. It is only a matter of time so make sure you have your investments spread out among all of the top coins. Ethereum is looking like a great buy right now.

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i don't think the dump of bitcoin is the guarantee if other altcoin recovering against it, they are also affected by the same condition, it is not today the bitcoin value will drop or flunctuate, so, i will wish we don't just start running bitcoin down at this time.lets hope it will still recover.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

if people are selling their altcoins to buy bitcoin with the expectations that with the creation of pound the price of bitcoin would go up a lot? as i suspect, and with this expectation being broken every day, you can see a scenario where the altcoins recover at least a little, but it can also be a bit misleading to think that this is a good time to invest in altcoins, I agree with you if you just buy for short term

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

agree that in the short term it can recover, but in my opinion it will be in the range of 3500 satoshi to 5000 satoshi

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

It will take a long time for alts to grow strongly. As of 2017, when BTC dominates over 70%, alts still cannot grow and it seems that only BTC is a strong increase.
After that, the bubble started to explode, when BTC's Dominance was only about 35% - 40%, then the alts began to increase sharply.
We will also see a strong pump price from BTC and history will continue to repeat.
In my opinion, it's still time to buy BTC and sell it at $ 12k.

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I do not understand what the alts are waiting for at all. When bitcoin goes up they go down because bitcoin is going up and their worth are pegged to dollar instead of bitcoin so their dollar value is either same or a bit less while their bitcoin value goes down a lot.

When bitcoin goes down they go down with it in dollar value as well for some reason while keeping the bitcoin value same. So with this logic whatever happens to bitcoin the eventual outcome is altcoins going down in price, what are they going to fall to zero dollars? That doesn't happen neither, sometimes all of a sudden out of nowhere altcoin prices start to go up, it is not because btc went up or down, it just happens without any reasoning at all. It is really hard to predict these things overall.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level.

I don't think this is a possible guess because btc is on bull area at this time. It might drop just as it did yesterday and to few hours back but at the moment, it is picking up again heading for another sharp run.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

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XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

You really think XRP is a coin which worth to buy? It's a centralized system by Ripple foundation. Do not fall for it because of it's heavy marketing.

Just use this sense: Why would anyone spend millions to market a coin? Because they control the coin and they want personal gain by fooling people.
Same theory goes with that recent Facebook coin (Libra)

Better go for ETH or NEO or XMR.

the thing is ripple has alot of partnership with big companys that transfer billions every year, so even if its centralised its a intressing case thats might be worth investing in

but i understand your sentiment fully!

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 08:50:28 AM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

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XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

You really think XRP is a coin which worth to buy? It's a centralized system by Ripple foundation. Do not fall for it because of it's heavy marketing.

Just use this sense: Why would anyone spend millions to market a coin? Because they control the coin and they want personal gain by fooling people.
Same theory goes with that recent Facebook coin (Libra)

Better go for ETH or NEO or XMR.

Ethereum just made a mess of it self by considering bitcoincash blockchain for transaction issue.. i doubt how long this will long and i wonder if it will retain its second spot in the market.

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If the altcoin can get strong in against bitcoin, then they will increase the price and start the rally while bitcoin is at a low price. But that will need big support and massive demand from people to buy back the altcoin so it will affect the price. But I think right now, and we need to be patient for a while because if we check on the market, some altcoin is trying to increase although it still too far to see they will get a bull run in this time.

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Quote from: pawanjain on July 17, 2019, 12:47:32 PM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Speculations are not always true. Yes the price of bitcoin did drop a little but it doesn't mean that the bear trend has started yet.
It may or may not be a minor correction. Also, bitcoin dumping doesn't necessarily mean that altcoins will pump.
Although the probability for altcoins to pump is high, I have seen cases when the altcoins dumped further.
We just have to be prepared for any situation. I think that bitcoin will rise again from this point.

We are done already in the bearish trend it's time for the bullish trend this year.
Although the price of Bitcoin yesterday dropped to $9.3k but thankfully it just started to rise a little at $9.8k this time.
This might be another correction of the price again but didn't expect the price to go down at this point.
And why is that someone still believes in XRP even though they know already that it is a centralized currency?

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 08:50:28 AM

Better go for ETH or NEO or XMR.

Why do you suggest to buy NEO? This coin looks more dead than alive. More than a year ago it positioned itself as a ETH killer or Chinese Ethereum. Times has passed and the project seems silence.

Havent heared about big project based on NEO for a long-long time.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

Speculations are not always true. Yes the price of bitcoin did drop a little but it doesn't mean that the bear trend has started yet.
It may or may not be a minor correction. Also, bitcoin dumping doesn't necessarily mean that altcoins will pump.
Although the probability for altcoins to pump is high, I have seen cases when the altcoins dumped further.
We just have to be prepared for any situation. I think that bitcoin will rise again from this point.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 08:50:28 AM

Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

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XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

You really think XRP is a coin which worth to buy? It's a centralized system by Ripple foundation. Do not fall for it because of it's heavy marketing.

Just use this sense: Why would anyone spend millions to market a coin? Because they control the coin and they want personal gain by fooling people.
Same theory goes with that recent Facebook coin (Libra)

Better go for ETH or NEO or XMR.

I think fooling will be if someone use ripple with believe of protecting privacy and supporting decentralized coin, on another hand this coin worths to buy for profit purposes. Ripple is far from decentralization but near to banking system, so useful and good for some people.
What's about subject, as I see usually coins rise when btc rises and opposite, don't have high hopes that other coins will recover, don't know even why btc falls so badly and what happens around it that causes fall after such a great rise.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

I don't know why there are people who do really believe sill on XRP and I don't know why people do proclaim on btc
on dumping into a certain price?No one can differentiate out on what would be the exact price we go below.BTC dominance is always been over
with Alts.We wont be sure on when would be the altcoin season starts.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

Bitcoin had a good run this year and we are right now seeing a temporary correction because of all the legalization talks that is going on and it will effect the entire market and not bitcoin alone, i do not see that the alt coin market will rise leaving bitcoin aside, if the market stabilizes the price of bitcoin will move forward but that cannot be said about the alt coin market Tongue

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 17, 2019, 08:50:28 AM

You really think XRP is a coin which worth to buy? It's a centralized system by Ripple foundation. Do not fall for it because of it's heavy marketing.

This is the problem with most of the new investors in this market as they do not understand which one is centralized and which ones are true decentralized cryptocurrency which has the potential to give you the profits, all they look for is the graph and and market capital and come to a conclusion that it is a good entry point and hope for the best Grin

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Quote from: suryana on July 17, 2019, 10:30:58 AM

Anciently, when the price of Bitcoin dump like this then most Altcoin price will pump, but I do not see it at the moment, the price of Bitcoin dump and the price of Altcoin still persist with a dump as well. I hope the Altcoin will pump again.

Altcoin will pump when people selling their bitcoin and it would make alt dominance more than bitcoin. Altcoin will pump again surely, but it takes time and i don't think you can see it for now or in few months later

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As far as I see it altcoins just went down together with Bitcoin with the correction that has happened (or still is happening). I don't see how it will be alt season yet specially when they are still following the market leader's direction. The only time I see that this will happen is when Bitcoin has dropped it's volume together with its price dropping while other altcoins in the market didn't show any signs of effect on it, with this you will know that the traders are now switching to some altcoin plays.

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Alts dumped harder than bitcoin since the other day, and I don't think that the recent dump in bitcoin means that the money would be flowing in towards the alts this time. It needs more than bitcoin dumping actually, and we're not in pre-2016 era wherein the exchanges Mintpal and Cryptsy, which are the primary movers of altcoin pumps and dumps, still exist. At this point, everyone is just guess-making on who rises the within the next couple of days, although the trend hasn't been broken yet and orders on exchanges are still somewhat icky and does not paint a clear picture as of late. I don't see XRP rising, not unless its creators decided to pump it during this small bloodshed.

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Quote from: suryana on July 17, 2019, 10:30:58 AM

Anciently, when the price of Bitcoin dump like this then most Altcoin price will pump, but I do not see it at the moment, the price of Bitcoin dump and the price of Altcoin still persist with a dump as well. I hope the Altcoin will pump again.

We are currently witnessing the situations where Alts still bleeding together with BTC unlike before when the market will get investors to buy Alts and hold till the price recover back to it's good position, you have to be selective in a way that you will be getting rewards whenever the assets you bought moves up and start pumping together with Bitcoin, stay positive and it will bring high chance of earning from this industry.

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Anciently, when the price of Bitcoin dump like this then most Altcoin price will pump, but I do not see it at the moment, the price of Bitcoin dump and the price of Altcoin still persist with a dump as well. I hope the Altcoin will pump again.

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But the problem is they are not!

I dont about XRP and there is no assurance that it will rise after this BTC dump that is happening.
It is still a risk and dont know if it will come true.
There is one question though.
Where is all that sold BTC going?
Are they fitting in the total number of USDT out there?
Even ETH is going south and it is not looking good.

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first of all this is not a bitcoin "dump" it is a drop. and you should really know the difference between these basic things if you are in a trading discussion board otherwise it is a better idea if you stay away from trading.
secondly whenever bitcoin price drops, the altcoins go down with it. and a quick look at the altcoin market shows that this time the altcoins are going down like always so there is no exceptions happening here either. in fact one of the reasons why the altcoin market is turning into a big bloodbath is exactly these bitcoin price rise and falls since altcoins go down in both cases.

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There may be a great time for some coins and tokens and the fact that 2 token have just received green light from SEC (!!) should also help.

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The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission recently made history when it green-lighted two token offerings under Regulation A+. “This is the first time in U.S. history that a crypto token offering has received SEC qualification,” one of the two qualified issuers proclaims.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 09:15:56 AM

This is short term trade not investment. I only trade based on TA. I don't think XRP would disappear that quick so i can make some profit.

I also put some short term target in. I just found XRP most undervalued based on TA atm. ETH, XLM are a bit behind but should rebound as well based on BTC value.

this is true this year is better for short-term trading than in the long run because in the short term it's easy to get profits from the long term. so indeed now is the time for us to trade altcoin while waiting for bitcoin to rise again

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This is short term trade not investment. I only trade based on TA. I don't think XRP would disappear that quick so i can make some profit.

I also put some short term target in. I just found XRP most undervalued based on TA atm. ETH, XLM are a bit behind but should rebound as well based on BTC value.

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Quote from: ONEnergy on July 17, 2019, 08:35:25 AM

~snip~

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

You really think XRP is a coin which worth to buy? It's a centralized system by Ripple foundation. Do not fall for it because of it's heavy marketing.

Just use this sense: Why would anyone spend millions to market a coin? Because they control the coin and they want personal gain by fooling people.
Same theory goes with that recent Facebook coin (Libra)

Better go for ETH or NEO or XMR.

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I am seeing btc can dump to as low as $7700 level. I think it is not the end of BTC bull run but as BTC dominance so high and alts bleeding from January against BTC i think it is time now for some alts to recover.

XRP went down from 10000 sat to as low as 2800 sat. My bet goes to XRP this time and i think can recover to 4500 - 6000 sat area.

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