BTC-e still down, Russian arrested in Greece

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 09, 2017, 05:15:40 PM

I also read about this is one website and I think this is a welcome news for those who have funds in BTC-E. I don't know if there are investment funds that are willing to take them in. But I wouldn't be surprise otherwise. I think they are really putting a lot of effort to give back the funds of their customers and to somewhat clear their name because they will definitely go back into the business but with different names. And we don't know if the available funds at 45% can still be recoverable or not. Just sad to see that this had to happened that affects a lot of people globally. Not really safe to put a lot of your funds in an exchange.

It seems like good news. But there are a few red flags. They seem to indicate that there will be no fiat processing; that is perfectly understandable. But then they say that KYC verification will be mandatory (unless there was a mis-translation).

Sending ID documents to the anonymous Russian exchange that just got taken down by the FBI? Damn, I can't say this sounds all that tempting.... Undecided

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Quote from: Ted E. Bare on August 09, 2017, 05:58:30 AM

BTC-e update (Google translated):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/update5-09082017-2075551

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Update5! Important! 08/09/2017

Exit from the current situation with the arrested Fiat:

1. Last 14 days we were engaged in struggle for your means, it was possible to gain control over 55% of funds (depends on the course), the remaining 45% are arrested funds, the most part in fiat. As the arrest is withdrawn from the accounts, the amount will decrease.

2. What is the way out of the current situation we see:
2.1. Work under the current BTC-e brand is not possible due to unresolved issues from the Office of Financial Crimes of the US Treasury.
2.2. At the moment, we are negotiating with a group of investors (an investment company), about buying and prompt launch of the service and repaying debts to customers. Further, the process of repayment of debt obligations will be described in more detail.
2.3. After we transfer all balance sheets of the investment company, we will recalculate the balance sheets.
2.4. The conversion procedure, taking into account the available 55% of funds:
2.4.1. All liabilities for fiat (USD, EUR, RUR) will be transferred to BTE tokens (1 BTE is 1 USD) at the exchange rate on the date of conversion. Probably, for more operative closing of promissory notes, ICO will be held on BTE tokens.
2.4.2. If you have on the balance the amount in koin, then you will be written off 45% of the balance of coins and credited with 45% of BTE (1 BTE is 1 USD). At the exchange rate on the day of conversion.
2.4.3. If you have a balance in BTE, then you will be credited with 45% in koin (the amount will be divided into 7 different coins equally BTC, LTC, NMC, NVC, PPC, ETH, DSH) and write off the amount of 45% in BTE.
2.4.4. Upon all recalculations, all users will have the opportunity to withdraw 55% of their funds from the system.
2.5. The investment company works in compliance with KYC, AML and the licenses required for this activity, so all users will need to undergo verification.
2.6. Tentative start dates end of August.

3. All debt obligations will be closed primarily from operating income from the investment company's commission, as well as from the funds we plan to sue from those who illegally arrested them.

The closing of the debt will be based on the principle of buying BTE tokens from the market.

The next update will provide more details on the procedure for accessing information on your balance sheet and when these funds can be withdrawn.

From the BTC-e team we officially inform that all the funds that were in the reserve fund (including all our income) were transferred to pay off the debts.

P.S. A warning! The cases of posting fake links on allegedly our new domain have become more frequent. All official information about our service is placed only in our twitter and from our official account on the forum.

Sincerely, BTC-e team

I also read about this is one website and I think this is a welcome news for those who have funds in BTC-E. I don't know if there are investment funds that are willing to take them in. But I wouldn't be surprise otherwise. I think they are really putting a lot of effort to give back the funds of their customers and to somewhat clear their name because they will definitely go back into the business but with different names. And we don't know if the available funds at 45% can still be recoverable or not. Just sad to see that this had to happened that affects a lot of people globally. Not really safe to put a lot of your funds in an exchange.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on August 09, 2017, 06:03:22 AM

I'm lucky I stopped using BTC-e a few years ago but I transferred my coins from there to Cryptsy which didn't end well either. I ended losing most of that anyway. These exchanges are high risk and this is another reason why we need to be careful and not keep many Bitcoins on them. Even good ones can get hacked and there's no way to get it back.

It is not advisable to keep your coins in any of the exchanges, no matter how much trustworthy and reliable they seems to be. For example, BTC-e was in operation ever since 2011. No one expected them to close down.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on August 09, 2017, 06:03:22 AM

Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

I'm lucky I stopped using BTC-e a few years ago but I transferred my coins from there to Cryptsy which didn't end well either. I ended losing most of that anyway. These exchanges are high risk and this is another reason why we need to be careful and not keep many Bitcoins on them. Even good ones can get hacked and there's no way to get it back.

Any exchange transactions associated with the risk. Especially if the owners of these resources are the Russian. Russia is a poor country with big ambitions so among them are a large number of highly qualified hackers and fraudsters.

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Quote from: aardvark15 on August 09, 2017, 06:03:22 AM

Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

I'm lucky I stopped using BTC-e a few years ago but I transferred my coins from there to Cryptsy which didn't end well either. I ended losing most of that anyway. These exchanges are high risk and this is another reason why we need to be careful and not keep many Bitcoins on them. Even good ones can get hacked and there's no way to get it back.

Which is why we always go back to the golden rule in this space, don't leave your money on exchanges!

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Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

I'm lucky I stopped using BTC-e a few years ago but I transferred my coins from there to Cryptsy which didn't end well either. I ended losing most of that anyway. These exchanges are high risk and this is another reason why we need to be careful and not keep many Bitcoins on them. Even good ones can get hacked and there's no way to get it back.

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BTC-e update (Google translated):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/update5-09082017-2075551

Quote

Update5! Important! 08/09/2017

Exit from the current situation with the arrested Fiat:

1. Last 14 days we were engaged in struggle for your means, it was possible to gain control over 55% of funds (depends on the course), the remaining 45% are arrested funds, the most part in fiat. As the arrest is withdrawn from the accounts, the amount will decrease.

2. What is the way out of the current situation we see:
2.1. Work under the current BTC-e brand is not possible due to unresolved issues from the Office of Financial Crimes of the US Treasury.
2.2. At the moment, we are negotiating with a group of investors (an investment company), about buying and prompt launch of the service and repaying debts to customers. Further, the process of repayment of debt obligations will be described in more detail.
2.3. After we transfer all balance sheets of the investment company, we will recalculate the balance sheets.
2.4. The conversion procedure, taking into account the available 55% of funds:
2.4.1. All liabilities for fiat (USD, EUR, RUR) will be transferred to BTE tokens (1 BTE is 1 USD) at the exchange rate on the date of conversion. Probably, for more operative closing of promissory notes, ICO will be held on BTE tokens.
2.4.2. If you have on the balance the amount in koin, then you will be written off 45% of the balance of coins and credited with 45% of BTE (1 BTE is 1 USD). At the exchange rate on the day of conversion.
2.4.3. If you have a balance in BTE, then you will be credited with 45% in koin (the amount will be divided into 7 different coins equally BTC, LTC, NMC, NVC, PPC, ETH, DSH) and write off the amount of 45% in BTE.
2.4.4. Upon all recalculations, all users will have the opportunity to withdraw 55% of their funds from the system.
2.5. The investment company works in compliance with KYC, AML and the licenses required for this activity, so all users will need to undergo verification.
2.6. Tentative start dates end of August.

3. All debt obligations will be closed primarily from operating income from the investment company's commission, as well as from the funds we plan to sue from those who illegally arrested them.

The closing of the debt will be based on the principle of buying BTE tokens from the market.

The next update will provide more details on the procedure for accessing information on your balance sheet and when these funds can be withdrawn.

From the BTC-e team we officially inform that all the funds that were in the reserve fund (including all our income) were transferred to pay off the debts.

P.S. A warning! The cases of posting fake links on allegedly our new domain have become more frequent. All official information about our service is placed only in our twitter and from our official account on the forum.

Sincerely, BTC-e team

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485705 eth were transferred from btc-e 10 hours ago to some other address which could be feds or theirs safe wallet

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I see that btc-e is everywhere in the news and i see the owner has been arrested for stealing so many funds from the 2011 exchange and involved in many money laundering and drug dealings , the us authorities claim to shut down the site don't think anytime soon we are gonna see btc-e to resuming maybe all investors is game over for you

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Quote from: pizamoi on July 29, 2017, 02:27:22 PM

Assuming the police have the private keys they will most likely make some kind of claims form otherwise they will be stuck dealing with civil court cases for a decade.

They aren't going to just steal peoples money unless they can prove that each of those people were doing something illegal.

A claims form just seems inefficient. They'll just deal with doing that for a decade instead. After they do their investigation, if they do have possession of everything, they should open up frozen exchange copy for some time, let people withdraw whatever they've got on there. They can then auction off whatever isn't withdrawn. It should be obvious which accounts were simply just trading, versus those potentially laundering money. A relatively simple algorithm could make that decision.

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Quote from: karan1498 on July 29, 2017, 02:20:57 PM

Quote from: BitHodler on July 29, 2017, 09:13:16 AM

That's how it should be, but I very much doubt people will ever see anything of their money back. It all depends on whether US authorities mark that complete exchange as criminal platform or not.

If they do mark it as criminal platform in its entirety, people will never see anything back, from where every altcoin and every penny in fiat will be in full ownership of the big and mighty USA.

At some point they will end up liquidating their crypto assets in form of one or various auctions. In other words, people are robbed of more than $1 billion in total ~ easy gain for the US government.

this is so much sad man! Sad

they've got a reason , but they cannot take innocent peoples money! or who knows whose innocent ?

damn cruel world

Assuming the police have the private keys they will most likely make some kind of claims form otherwise they will be stuck dealing with civil court cases for a decade.

They aren't going to just steal peoples money unless they can prove that each of those people were doing something illegal.

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Quote from: BitHodler on July 29, 2017, 09:13:16 AM

That's how it should be, but I very much doubt people will ever see anything of their money back. It all depends on whether US authorities mark that complete exchange as criminal platform or not.

If they do mark it as criminal platform in its entirety, people will never see anything back, from where every altcoin and every penny in fiat will be in full ownership of the big and mighty USA.

At some point they will end up liquidating their crypto assets in form of one or various auctions. In other words, people are robbed of more than $1 billion in total ~ easy gain for the US government.

this is so much sad man! Sad

they've got a reason , but they cannot take innocent peoples money! or who knows whose innocent ?

damn cruel world

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Quote from: karan1498 on July 29, 2017, 03:46:33 AM

authorities should return peoples money

That's how it should be, but I very much doubt people will ever see anything of their money back. It all depends on whether US authorities mark that complete exchange as criminal platform or not.

If they do mark it as criminal platform in its entirety, people will never see anything back, from where every altcoin and every penny in fiat will be in full ownership of the big and mighty USA.

At some point they will end up liquidating their crypto assets in form of one or various auctions. In other words, people are robbed of more than $1 billion in total ~ easy gain for the US government.

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Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

BTC-e is being discontinued, it is being investigated in detail, money laundering is a big crime in all countries, so I bet that a lot of people are panicked. They will lose a lot of money when BTC-e is locked.

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seems he was involved in alphabay or was in contact with owner of alphabay and that led him arrested.

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The good thing is that the prices quickly rebounded after declining by as much as 5% once the news of his arrest came out. This means that there is strong support for BTC right now, with hours to go for the big event on August 1. BTW, I was saddened by the news of his arrest. Alexander Vinnik was a much respected member within the Bitcoin society. But if he had links with the Mt Gox robbery, then I will never support him.

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Quote from: Serpens66 on July 27, 2017, 01:09:40 PM

Quote from: alyssa85 on July 27, 2017, 05:18:40 AM

Quote from: Serpens66 on July 26, 2017, 10:41:39 AM

If it is really the btc-e guy and if the authorities get the money/cryptos from btc-e, are they forced to pay it back to btc-e users?

I don't think the authorities will be able to get any money from btc-e - they appear to be moving their servers. Also - in the event the Feds actually manage to seize btc-e - people would have to prove they own accounts before being able to access them. What are the chances of that?

Let's see..
normally authorities should be smart enough to first freeze bank accounts/okpay/moneypolo, before arresting them...
If they did not and btc-e was able to withdraw also all the FIAT/change it into BTC then the authorities are the dumpest guys ever... (even if not they are dump, cause they will be the reason why everyone will at least loose their btc..)
So at least fiat could be possible...

Indeed, but it's not clear how much would be kept in their Okpay/Moneypolo accounts. Maybe not much. They have bank accounts in Mongolia, and I don't know if the US authorities can execute warrants there.

Isn't it strange that the authorities did not announce seized funds in the press release (like they always do)? Is it because the bank accounts they were able to seize were worthless, and they couldn't get any crypto? Or are they just slow rolling us all?

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authorities should return peoples money

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Quote from: alyssa85 on July 27, 2017, 05:18:40 AM

Quote from: Serpens66 on July 26, 2017, 10:41:39 AM

If it is really the btc-e guy and if the authorities get the money/cryptos from btc-e, are they forced to pay it back to btc-e users?

I don't think the authorities will be able to get any money from btc-e - they appear to be moving their servers. Also - in the event the Feds actually manage to seize btc-e - people would have to prove they own accounts before being able to access them. What are the chances of that?

Let's see..
normally authorities should be smart enough to first freeze bank accounts/okpay/moneypolo, before arresting them...
If they did not and btc-e was able to withdraw also all the FIAT/change it into BTC then the authorities are the dumpest guys ever... (even if not they are dump, cause they will be the reason why everyone will at least loose their btc..)
So at least fiat could be possible...

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Quote from: HarryKPeters on July 27, 2017, 12:48:46 AM

I read the article, and I feel happy I didn't trust that site with my bitcoin. Let's hope though the bad persons will be punished and the good person won't.
This is a lot of BTC we are dealing with!

Same here, I haven't stored anything there before and other than just few small trades I haven't done any big one there in past too.

https://www.xbtce.com/?type=exchange might also shut down because I think btc-e owner have some connection with this one .

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Mt. Gox Dejavu.. Sorry to hear guys if you have money there.

Russia National and Bitcoin Exchange Charged: 21-Count Indictment For Internet Money Laundering Scheme/Laundering Money From Mt. Gox

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https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged

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It looks like most of the BTC is gone from Btc-e if you take into account the 66,000 dump.

I don't know if that includes altcoins or not. Maybe they are still there, or maybe it takes the 5-10 days to raid those wallets too and mix them all, then cover all tracks and leave the country.

It seems more like they will re-open to me since they have been fined $110 million. Why do that to an exchange if they will no longer exist? Seems more likely they would have been liquidated instead, so I see them opening again probably minus lots of BTC. (Hope not alts as well).

I imagine everyone will be forced to send multiple ID forms including passport before they can do any withdrawals though. This would also take 5-10 days to plan.

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on July 26, 2017, 06:46:12 PM

Next MtGox?

actually it's not 'the next MtGox' but the truth it's already a 'Sucessor of the Goxed'.
Currently Btc-e was down and they made a statement need a time for 5-10 days to fix the problem (which is we should know what is the problem)

Quote from: btc78 on July 26, 2017, 09:56:05 PM

I agree that BTC-e won't be back coming back for the time being. I'm suspecting that the unscheduled maintenance was just a cover and maybe the Feds are snipping all the logs from the server since they went offline. And I'm sure this is connected to Bitmixer.io shutting down its mixing services after such a long time. Maybe those money goes to the mixing services to stay anonymous, but it looks like its not the case.

Yep 'Btc-e will not be back for the time being',we will wait an everlasting maintenance.
about Bitmixer,we really don't know about it but the timing it's really coincide.
on the other hand they said they closed their services 'voluntary' because global goverment force mixer service to close their door.
but the question is why it's only Bitmixer and after that something this happened

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Quote from: Serpens66 on July 26, 2017, 10:41:39 AM

If it is really the btc-e guy and if the authorities get the money/cryptos from btc-e, are they forced to pay it back to btc-e users?

I don't think the authorities will be able to get any money from btc-e - they appear to be moving their servers. Also - in the event the Feds actually manage to seize btc-e - people would have to prove they own accounts before being able to access them. What are the chances of that?

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I read the article, and I feel happy I didn't trust that site with my bitcoin. Let's hope though the bad persons will be punished and the good person won't.
This is a lot of BTC we are dealing with!

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I agree that BTC-e won't be back coming back for the time being. I'm suspecting that the unscheduled maintenance was just a cover and maybe the Feds are snipping all the logs from the server since they went offline. And I'm sure this is connected to Bitmixer.io shutting down its mixing services after such a long time. Maybe those money goes to the mixing services to stay anonymous, but it looks like its not the case.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on July 26, 2017, 07:27:27 PM

This seems like a funny drama.

Next 7 days are going to be very interesting, filled with news like these. Roll Eyes

I think the price shouldn't change much, Bitcoin is already to big to be crashed by failures of exchanges and darknet markets. It's steadily going mainstream, so it's no longer relies on shady operations to boost its price. And it looks like governments aren't opposing Bitcoin itself, and actually utilize public ledger to track down criminals, so there's no reason to panic for Bitcoin hodlers. And people who look for privacy should really start looking for alternative cryptocurrencies and other systems.

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as much as I've seen, btc-e won't be coming back soon or at all. Now I'm hoping that this will effect the price a little, to make it go down unleast to $2000.

Quote from: SmartIphone on July 26, 2017, 02:29:27 PM

Quote from: audaciousbeing on July 26, 2017, 02:18:14 PM

If this arrest is really related to BTC-e heist then I would say its good signal to the entire market that the anonymity is not enough to keep the hands of law from reaching you and also a signal to others who might be thinking in that direction to use this suspending of btc on sites as an opportunity to bolt with lots of fund, the eyes of the law is equally watching you. Coindash did its own, btc-e did its own who knows who is coming next?.

The anonymity online is disappearing day to day and for some reasons it is good and for some other reason it is bad as people want to have privacy but not all of them use for good things.
Btw Bitmixer.io has shut down. You can read more here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-lagest-bitcoin-mixer-is-about-to-stop-working-2042470
Also I believe that there is something else hidden behind this arrest, making a foggy situation to the public.

wow, their explanation on why's it shutting down is even better.

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on July 26, 2017, 06:46:12 PM

Next MtGox?

new megaupload?

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This seems like a funny drama.

Next 7 days are going to be very interesting, filled with news like these. Roll Eyes

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Next MtGox?

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BTC-E down and officially said they're doing a maintenence for their website
their statement :

"Update2: At the moment, work is underway to restore the service. Approximate terms from 5 to 10 days. Thank you for understanding"
https://btc-e.com/

or you can go here :

https://twitter.com/btcecom/status/890281223632764928 (Tweet in russian)

based on recent activity we can see it clearly that Alexander Vinnik more likely connected to BTC-E.
and other than that,they claimed that Alexander involved in hacking MT.Gox

you can see it more in here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20405390

Note : Total arrested in Bitcoin Approx : Over $4 Billion BTC

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Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

If this is true then $4 billion is hell lot of money to launder and i am sure he will be behind bars for a very long time for his actions,but i would like to know more details about it,how the funds users invested in the site,is it all gone or is there a possibility that the users will get their funds back,over all it is a really unfortunate situation for the users.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on July 26, 2017, 02:18:14 PM

If this arrest is really related to BTC-e heist then I would say its good signal to the entire market that the anonymity is not enough to keep the hands of law from reaching you and also a signal to others who might be thinking in that direction to use this suspending of btc on sites as an opportunity to bolt with lots of fund, the eyes of the law is equally watching you. Coindash did its own, btc-e did its own who knows who is coming next?.

The anonymity online is disappearing day to day and for some reasons it is good and for some other reason it is bad as people want to have privacy but not all of them use for good things.
Btw Bitmixer.io has shut down. You can read more here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-lagest-bitcoin-mixer-is-about-to-stop-working-2042470
Also I believe that there is something else hidden behind this arrest, making a foggy situation to the public.

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Quote from: abercrombie on July 26, 2017, 10:03:51 AM

BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

If this arrest is really related to BTC-e heist then I would say its good signal to the entire market that the anonymity is not enough to keep the hands of law from reaching you and also a signal to others who might be thinking in that direction to use this suspending of btc on sites as an opportunity to bolt with lots of fund, the eyes of the law is equally watching you. Coindash did its own, btc-e did its own who knows who is coming next?.

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I found this article which is in quite detail
http://blog.wizsec.jp/2017/07/breaking-open-mtgox-1.html

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We're going to split this into a couple of different posts, as our full findings cover a wider range of topics, and for this post we'll just very quickly summarize the main BTC theft and its connection to Vinnik:

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Twitter: https://twitter.com/ReutersBiz/status/890232366370893825

BREAKING: Russian man arrested in Greece connected to BTC-e cryptocurrency exchange

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If it is really the btc-e guy and if the authorities get the money/cryptos from btc-e, are they forced to pay it back to btc-e users?

In case of darknet market they never gave back the money to the users, but maybe because the users bought illegal things.
But with btc-e majority of the users are traders and have nothing to do with illegal things, so do they have to give us back the money? And if not, can we sue them?

ft73

hero member

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No need to search around, info already here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-down-information-tracking-thread-2047600

In short: Yes BTC-e is related to this arrest.
Soon the international press will give details.

Devilwalk

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Yes I think that's BTC-e.

From Russian wanted in US caught in Greece for money laundering

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The man has been accused of laundering an estimated $4 billion since 2011 by using the online bitcoin currency. Greek police said he had been directing a criminal organization that owns, operates and manages “one of the largest cybercrime websites in the world.”

Isn't BTC-e founded in 2011?

abercrombie

legendary

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BTC-e down for over 24 hours. One of the owners went by Alexander.

Possibly related, 1h ago:

Greece detains Russian Alexander Vinnik for bitcoin 'fraud'

ATHENS, July 26 (Reuters) - A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Greek police earlier said the suspect, who was picked up on a U.S. warrant, was thought to have used bitcoin to launder 'at least' $4 billion earned through illicit activities.

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