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HashNOOB

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Quote from: chipi48 on August 14, 2019, 10:50:47 AM

There is a new english website: bitfily.vip, but you cannot make any orders. And their original chinese website is still online: bitfily.com...

I believe that .vip address redirects to the .com address now...

For the sake of a new thread, I have a question about the OS for the Bitfily devices...
Just received an A1+, wouldn't draw an IP so I pulled the OrangePi Zero board out. I grabbed the SD card out of it and slid it into my card reader only to find that it was empty (windows recognized it as a drive without needing to format and shows empty)

Does anyone have a link to the original OS .rar file?

anything else I should know about this 90 pound monster? I will post some stats and data if I can get it working!

chipi48

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Recently I have noted there is a new model from Bitfily. The B3.

www.bitfily.com/product/snow-panther-b3/

Chip energy efficiency says only 0.081J/Gh, so, not a big improvement from B1+ but price (~669.00USD) and stock availability are interesting.

chipi48

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Quote from: hatem31 on August 09, 2019, 03:45:11 PM

hello I just delivered your asic b1 +, I try to turn it on but there is a problem that I can not solve:
1- the blue lights on the three sets of hash board PCI-e connectors is not keep on.
2 - the configuration page does not show any status it remains blocked.

https://imgur.com/a/0T4AV9U

Have you resolved this issue? Blue leds should turn on in a few seconds. If not, try to disconnect from mainboard one of the fans, and reconnect after blue leds turn on.

There is a new english website: bitfily.vip, but you cannot make any orders. And their original chinese website is still online: bitfily.com

We have received a new batch of B1+. But It´s different in some details, like mainboard.
Here is a short video and screencap of efficiency and performance mode.

https://imgur.com/a/3Kw58uN

I will add some details later.

ZimbaCardi

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Quote from: hatem31 on August 09, 2019, 03:45:11 PM

hello I just delivered your asic b1 +, I try to turn it on but there is a problem that I can not solve:
1- the blue lights on the three sets of hash board PCI-e connectors is not keep on.
2 - the configuration page does not show any status it remains blocked.

https://imgur.com/a/0T4AV9U

Those blue lights will blink when it starts hashing, the connections look good and that screen will change in a few minutes.

Steamtyme is right, be a little patient. There are a few of us here that have those, so hope we can help because the company is gone now.

Steamtyme

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Hey sorry to hear you are having troubles. Not positive but I think the company has gone out of business - can't even check their site anymore.

To try and help though. How long are you leaving the machine on before trying to log in and monitor. Gear is tricky, sometimes you can log in right away sometimes it's a few minutes. If you've given it plenty of time check to see if there are any loose connections. You may wind up having to open the machine, not sure.

Might want to check with one of the people in this thread who bought one for additional troubleshooting.

hatem31

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hello I just delivered your asic b1 +, I try to turn it on but there is a problem that I can not solve:
1- the blue lights on the three sets of hash board PCI-e connectors is not keep on.
2 - the configuration page does not show any status it remains blocked.

https://imgur.com/a/0T4AV9U

NotFuzzyWarm

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Another *possible* replacement may be the PSU for Whatsminer M10 series available through Pangolinminer. The M10 also uses a split supply with the high side being around 15v.

The catch to using other PSU's is that all of the split supplies have communications between the controller and PSU to set the voltage fed to the chip strings on the hash boards. What the com signals are and where they feed into the PSU remains to be seen.

ZimbaCardi

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Thank you and NotFuzzy, saved me from diging it out, will search for options also.

chipi48

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Hey, thank you for the merit @ZimbaCardi Cheesy

I am not a electronic specialist like many here, but I think is not very good idea to connect conventional Psu to B1.

User NotFuzzyWarm already talked about that

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 15, 2018, 02:35:03 PM

DO pay close attention to the power specs for this! The miner CANNOT use a normal PSU. It requires 2 different voltage inputs, one for the control board and a higher voltage one for the hash boards.
From their site:
3. If the voltage for the miner’s control board doesn’t range from 10.8V to 13.2V and the voltage for the hash boards doesn’t range from 14.5V to 15.5V, the miner may fail to work or even breaks.

If you look at their PSU for the miner it is dual voltage out...

It seems it is very difficult to find a replacement for B1's Psu.

Rabinovich also talked about other Asic that uses 14-15v PSU. Innosilicon T2.

Maybe this Psu can work with B1?
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/2200w-psu/index.html
But, it´s 14v not 15v.

I will keep searching.

ZimbaCardi

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Great idea, thank you, merit given, Try that with some regular computer PSU's I have laying around?

I believe the only "odd" current on The B1+ is for the Mainboard. Any idea if the Hashboards are the the usual 12V?

Have to read the manual before I go try this, hope it is regular PCIe voltage.

chipi48

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I am glad to know that, ZimbaCardi. I have positive feedback too about post-sale service of Bitfily, but same as you, I had to pay customs taxes. They have send me a PSU that is capable of handle hotter conditions. Is OK now.
One thing that has helped me is use 2 PSU per Asic. I mean, one psu for 2 hashboards. It works very well.

ZimbaCardi

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Like Chipi48 said there is an issue with some of the PSU's when at 32C or above, 2 even shorted the cable connecting the mainboard, 1 PSU survived other had to be replaced, Bitfily did replace the cables and connectors at no cost to my Freight forwarder in China (Cost to get here is a different story).

They asked to receive the damaged PSU before sending the replacement. I just bought another one since shipping to China was USD $75, they will send and extra cable and Mainboard for my troubles so I am very happy with their customer support, they are just far is all.

chipi48

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@ZimbaCardi, PM'd you. At least, I tried Tongue

It's just about temperature conditions, my B1+'s psu cannot handle 32C and above, it makes the miner crash. Have you experienced something similar?

ZimbaCardi

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Sorry for the late reply, tried PMing you but you have it so newbies can't PM you.
I do speak spanish.
This miner comes with it's own PSU, if you are trying something else I'm afraid it'll be an engineering project of it's own.
Other than that; How can I help?

chipi48

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hey ZimbaCardi, do you speak spanish? I can't send you a pm. I am facing some serious problem regarding the psu.

ZimbaCardi

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Since Antpool now supports ASIC Boost I switched 2 of this there and they do hash but at about 20 TH/s, almost 20% drop from Slushpool, not sure if this happens with other AB miners.

Rabinovitch

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 15, 2018, 02:35:03 PM

DO pay close attention to the power specs for this! The miner CANNOT use a normal PSU. It requires 2 different voltage inputs, one for the control board and a higher voltage one for the hash boards.
From their site:
3. If the voltage for the miner’s control board doesn’t range from 10.8V to 13.2V and the voltage for the hash boards doesn’t range from 14.5V to 15.5V, the miner may fail to work or even breaks.

If you look at their PSU for the miner it is dual voltage out...

Just like Innosilicon's T2 miners... It looks that this is a common practice these days...

ZimbaCardi

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Quote from: Steamtyme on October 16, 2018, 10:24:43 AM

Thanks for the updates. I'll add them to the current hardware thread, with a link here for the discussion about the miner.

Just to be sure when you bought your it was part of a 100 unit order? Sounds like you were pooled in with others/businesses.

Any chance you have or took a photo of the shipment? I'm just trying to get an idea of how many of these they were able to deliver or ship out so far. Anyways I'm satisfied that I've seen at least one.

I was pooled with others, can do it again. They have in stock a batch of 23.5 TH/s if interested, next batch unknown date.

By shipment, you mean photo of the boxes arriving? No, they pooled me in with others but shipped direct to me.

Quote from: vincl on October 16, 2018, 09:03:46 AM

slushpool works for you? on slush i only get about 19-20 TH/s with this miner

Yeah, had a "scoring hash rate" of 50.27 with both before I had to power down for other issues.

Steamtyme

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Thanks for the updates. I'll add them to the current hardware thread, with a link here for the discussion about the miner.

Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 16, 2018, 01:13:31 AM

My sales person can pool a few of us together, even with different shipping addresses since I am working with possible distributors in Mexico.

Just to be sure when you bought your it was part of a 100 unit order? Sounds like you were pooled in with others/businesses.

Any chance you have or took a photo of the shipment? I'm just trying to get an idea of how many of these they were able to deliver or ship out so far. Anyways I'm satisfied that I've seen at least one.

NotFuzzyWarm

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Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 16, 2018, 01:13:31 AM

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It uses ASIC Boost so you need a pool with that, I use Slushpool, Bitfily suggests "www.dpool.top slushpool.com and www.poolin.com/"

In addition to those, current list of pools supporting AB:
http://kano.is
https://bitminter.com
http://solo.ckpool.org
http://ckpool.org
https://www.f2pool.com

May be more, but I don't care as I only mine at Kano (and have no miners that use AB).

vincl

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Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 16, 2018, 01:13:31 AM

So here are more pics.

It has 4 hash boards, 2 PCIe on each 6 pin, 4 pin on control board and another 2 pin connector also on the controller board.
It uses ASIC Boost so you need a pool with that, I use Slushpool, Bitfily suggests "www.dpool.top slushpool.com and www.poolin.com/"

slushpool works for you? on slush i only get about 19-20 TH/s with this miner

sarcheer

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Thank you for the pics and reviews!

ZimbaCardi

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So here are more pics.

It has 4 hash boards, 2 PCIe on each 6 pin, 4 pin on control board and another 2 pin connector also on the controller board.
It uses ASIC Boost so you need a pool with that, I use Slushpool, Bitfily suggests "www.dpool.top slushpool.com and www.poolin.com/"
The Miner console is well done and typical, has a bug that shows IP as 0.0.0.0 so do jot down the IP.
They start up and run full speed in about 5 minutes, I had an issue because of trying to connect to Antpool and they don't accept ASICBoost, when I switched to Slushpool they hashed real well right away, see Status screen capture, temps are wonderful and stable, much better than the T9+'s next to them.
One shows the red "fault" light blinking but since it's happily hashing am not gonna reboot till Wednesday when I have to disconnect for a power setup change.
Packaging just like Antminers but they include the PSU in the same box.

Very happy camper here.

https://i.imgur.com/hlnpVc3.png
https://i.imgur.com/RsEzmHd.png
https://i.imgur.com/wpT5As9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xlSOwoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BYIbwFL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NX6Gmgz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5KIBIKQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iAGkqP3.jpg

Quote from: Steamtyme on October 15, 2018, 08:58:04 AM

I was also wondering did you have to get it through a re seller? The website has a MOQ of 100 when I check. I've been watching your updates and gathering info before adding them to that pinned thread.
Thanks for taking the time to update the community.

My sales person can pool a few of us together, even with different shipping addresses since I am working with possible distributors in Mexico.

Glad I can contribute.

NotFuzzyWarm

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on October 15, 2018, 02:40:36 PM

Also, note he 4 pin for the control board

Ja. looks to be like the 4-pin aux CPU power connectors which makes sense as their psu puts out 12v@10a as the 2nd output. No doubt the high current rating is for the fans power draw.

My guess is that the hash boards use the raw DC (14.5-15.5v) to directly drive the ASIC strings with no intermediate regulation.

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on October 15, 2018, 02:35:03 PM

DO pay close attention to the power specs for this! The miner CANNOT use a normal PSU. It requires 2 different voltage inputs, one for the control board and a higher voltage one for the hash boards.
From their site:
3. If the voltage for the miner’s control board doesn’t range from 10.8V to 13.2V and the voltage for the hash boards doesn’t range from 14.5V to 15.5V, the miner may fail to work or even breaks.

If you look at their PSU for the miner it is dual voltage out...

Great eye, making sure we list this clearly.

Also, note he 4 pin for the control board

NotFuzzyWarm

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DO pay close attention to the power specs for this! The miner CANNOT use a normal PSU. It requires 2 different voltage inputs, one for the control board and a higher voltage one for the hash boards.
From their site:
3. If the voltage for the miner’s control board doesn’t range from 10.8V to 13.2V and the voltage for the hash boards doesn’t range from 14.5V to 15.5V, the miner may fail to work or even breaks.

If you look at their PSU for the miner it is dual voltage out...

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

Looking at the fans I can already hear my wife complaining. Lol

vincl

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Quote from: HagssFIN on October 15, 2018, 09:05:42 AM

Very cool.

It would be nice if someone who has one of these could make a nice review here at the forum. Wink

if i had the time..sorry Cheesy

HagssFIN

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

Very cool.

It would be nice if someone who has one of these could make a nice review here at the forum. Wink

Steamtyme

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Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 13, 2018, 09:58:40 PM

Because fans are 140mm it's easy to think they are smaller, so one pic is next to a T9+.

https://imgur.com/a/uLfMc3f

Thanks for the pic posting tip.

Hey thanks for the photo. You're the first I've seen with one of these, glad it's working out for you.

Do you mind posting a few more photos. Something with the packaging? Also a screen cap of the status page showing hashrate?

Considering you have one and no one on the forum has done a review you may want to consider that.

I was also wondering did you have to get it through a re seller? The website has a MOQ of 100 when I check. I've been watching your updates and gathering info before adding them to that pinned thread.
Thanks for taking the time to update the community.

ZimbaCardi

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Because fans are 140mm it's easy to think they are smaller, so one pic is next to a T9+.

https://imgur.com/a/uLfMc3f

Thanks for the pic posting tip.

HagssFIN

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Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 12, 2018, 10:37:25 PM

Can't post pics, I am still a noob member. But can mail them.

Have you ever heard about image hosting websites, like Imgur or Tinypic? Wink

You should be able to post them as url links at least.

vincl

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Quote from: sarcheer on October 12, 2018, 02:21:50 PM

Can one of you folks who have one post a picture of your machine? The one on the manufacturer's site is a CG model...

will do on monday

Quote from: sarcheer on October 12, 2018, 08:57:37 AM

Slushpool supports Asicboost, as do Kano and CK pools.

i know. but not all asicboost are 100% the same...

ZimbaCardi

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Can't post pics, I am still a noob member. But can mail them.

sarcheer

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Can one of you folks who have one post a picture of your machine? The one on the manufacturer's site is a CG model...

ZimbaCardi

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Quote from: fanatic26_ on October 12, 2018, 12:08:00 PM

antpool, bitcoin.com, and a few others are out there supporting it as well

From the horses mouth: "www.dpool.top slushpool.com and www.poolin.com/"

My problem was trying to set them up with Antpool, will not work. I got them up and running with Slushpool since I could not open an account with dpool (Bitfily's own pool).

After setting the IP to static the software will show it as 0.0.0.0, both in the network config. page and Dashboard, tech support said it's a bug and it doesn't affect anything.

24.64 TH/s on first one after 90 minutes, 25.37 on second after 60.

My KillaWatt's are busted so I have no consumption numbers.

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antpool, bitcoin.com, and a few others are out there supporting it as well

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Quote from: vincl on October 12, 2018, 03:52:31 AM

my 2 also arrived and i dont have any problems. just setup and i can find them with angry ip scanner. they use asicboost which is not supported on slushpool. i have to find out which pools work.

but that thing is not interesting anyways, just not efficient enough for the future...

Slushpool supports Asicboost, as do Kano and CK pools.

vincl

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Quote from: ZimbaCardi on October 11, 2018, 03:26:30 PM

Just got 2 of them, having difficulty getting them to take the static IP or finding Tech Support.
They are bigger than the Antminers and they use 140mm Fans, had to improvise to fit the ducting, need to make 140 to 6" adapters.
Will report more when I get them hashing.

my 2 also arrived and i dont have any problems. just setup and i can find them with angry ip scanner. they use asicboost which is not supported on slushpool. i have to find out which pools work.

but that thing is not interesting anyways, just not efficient enough for the future...

ZimbaCardi

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Just got 2 of them, having difficulty getting them to take the static IP or finding Tech Support.
They are bigger than the Antminers and they use 140mm Fans, had to improvise to fit the ducting, need to make 140 to 6" adapters.
Will report more when I get them hashing.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on August 31, 2018, 08:22:41 AM

Well they aren't doing themselves any favors with a MOQ of 100 units.

Really nothing special about the unit, a little more efficient than some of the gear out there, not by much though. Doesn't really compete with any of the nexgen ber announced for the next few months.

Even if it works it is 87 watts per th.

That is no longer good enough.

Steamtyme

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Well they aren't doing themselves any favors with a MOQ of 100 units.

Really nothing special about the unit, a little more efficient than some of the gear out there, not by much though. Doesn't really compete with any of the nexgen ber announced for the next few months.

vincl

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https://www.bitfily.io/product/b1plus/

anybody has insider infos about this one?
specs seem quite good

24.5TH/s
2100W
10nm

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