Topic: Btc price controlled by they might satsoshi (Read 323 times)

Not sure what is the correlation between comparison of ethnicity and religion and what does it have anything to do with financial institutions investing in cryptocurrency and knowing Satoshi  . These financial investors will invest in any market they find profitable and that does not mean they will be knowing who the inventor of Bitcoin is, because it does not matter about who invented to invest in it  .

- Who knows though? If we're to talk about conspiracies, anything is possible. If He/She or the team behind the name satoshi is still really out there breathing, I highly doubt that they have no idea why these fluctuations are actually going on and may even be a part of the whole thing. Pretty fun to speculate about honestly.

- Indeed. I even say most of the time to just ket the guy(s) be because they clearly don't want to be found considering how they tried to hide their presence to this extent.

- Each to his own I guess. Because despite respecting their decisions of not wanting to be found, or not wanting to encourage people who seeks attention, I myself am still very interested who the brilliant mind(s) really are that started all of this and made the existence of this industry possible. My curiosity when it comes to this subject is just very wild; wanting to know how they started out the very thought of bitcoin, what type of person or people they are, are they like most geniuses out there that are different like Elon, Vitaly, etc., or are they normal people like us who loves to socialize, have fun and so much more. Most of all, I guess I want to really hear a deeper explanation about the plans they had, what things they expected and did not expect to happen when they started along with their hopes for bitcoin in the coming years and what they would want to change about it if they could.

Lol, I seem to have blabbered too much. But again, each to his own xD

If you are still concerned about who Nakamoto is, it means that you haven't read the bitcoin white paper, and you don't know what bitcoin is.

If bitcoin was controlled by satoshi or even if bitcoin had an active owner, we would not have seen such rise in bitcoin prices. You can compare the prices of altcoins which are controlled by the owners as they have a major portion of the coins that they can dump on us anytime or change algorithms.

These days if you hear bitcoin manipulated by whales or exchanges, it only means that they have bought a lot of bitcoins and therefore the pump and dump from them have a large impact on the order books.

Unrealistic thoughts IMO. No one can control Bitcoin price anyway even the creator. Because it's a decentralized cryptocurrency no one has control over it. Yea, but the price would influence by someone and the person should like Elon, I mean big whales and popular faces in crypto space. It doesn't mean they could control, influence & control wouldn't be the same. Likely someone knows who is Satoshi, but we don't know who is he/she. Satoshi strictly maintained his anonymity. So commenting on that is just nonsense.

If it happened a few years ago, maybe I can believe it because many people can easily manipulate the price on many exchanges, especially when the price of bitcoin was not as high as it is now.
But if that were to happen at this point, I don't think it would be easy to control the price of bitcoin because to move one market takes a lot of money and we're talking thousands of dollars that can rock the market.
Maybe they are whales who have a lot of bitcoins but I don't think they will quickly shake bitcoins, let alone make the price fall too deep.
Perhaps the negative news that plays the most part creates panic and worry for people so they sell bitcoins quickly.

I don't believe your review at all, because if the price of btc was controlled by them Satoshi, surely btc wouldn't be as popular as it is now, because bitcoin can't be controlled by anyone, except for greedy rich people, who manipulate prices, and countries that prohibit bitcoin mining, but they also can't do much, because bitcoin has extraordinary power, the proof is that even though many countries are against bitcoin, bitcoin still exists today..

You made the right thing of differentiating between control and manipulation. The idea of controlling is quite different from manipulating...anybody can manipulate the market in such a way that the price movement of a certain currency can go up or go down depending on what that person or organization is doing. In case a person has a bulk of BTC, he can sell and the market can be reacting to it negatively so the price go down...or one can buy a lot of BTC and the result is that there can be a spike in the price of the coin. On the other hand, the idea of control is that there is somebody who can be in charge and this is true with the government's central bank or Fed in the case of USA - with centralized power behind it all. Now, do we really have such a thing in Bitcoin? Or maybe this is just another pigment of someone's imagination who is fed up that he can't be manipulating the market himself alone?

I don't see how this adds up or relate to each other, also the body of the post is in contrast with the title of the post.
Enough with the secret agent drama for the search of who Satoshi is, many ideas, thought and so and on has been made, we don't need an extra headache also I don't see how Bitcoin controls what you said it controls and advice to you is that you should work on your researching.

What about me? I already know what is btc and how things operate without knowing the true identity of the founder of btc but I know if who created btc, that is Satoshi Nakamoto. We can learn everything in bitcoin online, no need for us to see the founder in real life. Btc is created for the people to have a currency that is free from banks, so it's impossible that it is created by banks. A bank creates money but it doesn't mean that every currency comes from them. Cryptos are a different kind.

@avikz obviously they will approach satoshi and ask him if they can have an autograph but seriously maybe they have questions in mind that only satoshi can answer.

Nahh, the discussion still remains unclear and we yet do not know who satoshi is really. The thing is we can not really and will know who are they unless and until they themselves come in front of the world let’s not make buzz about it.

Let’s not mix up the gray shit again here. They know nothing, they just have collective and controlled money with them. Since they are financially strong they could just go around and keep buying the crypto anyways. They are big it doesn’t mean they know something.

Tomorrow billionaire like Elon could buy 10% within snap of finger just like that and become the sapphire of everything. The comparison is undone.

Maybe these institutions have an impact on bitcoin's price but you forgot the most important one imo. The one that provides the liquidity; bitfinex/tether. Imo Bitfinex/Tether has the most impact on the prices because almost all trading is happening on the tether/crypto pairs. It makes sense to think they control the markets right now. They can print as many tethers as they like to buy everything on the markets and then dump to crash the markets.

from what I see you are putting a lot of effort into this absurd theory, look at the size of the bitcoin market, I don't see how they would be manipulating the price unless of course sometimes some news causes a pump or dump but these are natural things and not something that can anyone do every day and time, about them knowing satoshi's identity i think this is absurd, why would they hide if they knew satoshi's identity? what would they gain by hiding satoshi's identity? they definitely don't know satoshi's identity

Whoever satoshi may have been, it has no correlation with price movements.

And, to be honest, even when people claim to have "facts" or "sources" about satoshi, I still roll my eyes.  I've seen dozens of them by this point.  None of them actually know anything.  It's all just a cry for attention.  Not interesting in the slightest.  It's actually not healthy for other forum users to be providing positive reinforcement for that kind of behaviour.  Don't encourage them.

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If you are polo7/cryptoboss2020 then I'm pretty sure more information won't help you.  You're still going to find the wrong end of the stick it and grab it firmly with both hands.  You have as much access to information as the rest of us, yet you're still here talking nonsense. 



Knowing where money comes from is not a prerequisite to make money.  If you offer goods or services and sell them in exchange for Bitcoin, you make money.  Mission accomplished.

While I am very eager and interested to know who satoshi really is, and even more so to point fingers on who the hell is responsible for these downtrends and sudden uptrends that made me lose on some of considerable chances for profits(in just a few hours away from the charts), I simply cannot believe just about anything I read on the internet without concrete evidences let alone statements that don't even have credible sources. With these, I think lots of people would be interested rather than make fun of you.

The thing is Bitcoin and banks are contradicts each other, many people think Bitcoin will replace banks in the future... it make no sense if banks created Bitcoin, it's just like they're digging their own graves.

What does operate you mean? You can mine it yourself using high graphic cards or you mean about connecting your node? You can do that by run full node on BitcoinCore.

Lol! These kind of statements actually becomes the laughing stock for the community. If I am not wrong, CME group runs a derivative contract that is not backed by physical bitcoins. It just uses bitcoin price as an indicator without actually holding any bitcoins. Greyscale is the one actively invests in bitcoin.

Whenever I see such discussions about Satoshi's identity, I just think of one question - what will you do with Satoshi's identity?

Let's assume, suddenly one day Satoshi makes an appearance with proper proof. What will you do after that?

We assume it's all true. What are you going to do? Just walk away from BTC or do you still choose to stick with BTC on the condition that they will control the price?

I don't really care about that because as long as I can make a profit, I will continue to use it well and I don't want to be too late to have a lot of bitcoins so I can sell them at the highest price.

But how can you be so sure when we don't know who Satoshi Nakamoto is? It will remain a mystery until Satoshi Nakamoto himself comes out of hiding and proves that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

I guess those are all assumptions about who Satoshi is and driving the bitcoin price, but we can only guess without knowing the truth.

Grayscale is not a bank.AFAIK,US banks are "under the Federal Reserve".
Grayscale is supposed to be under the Security and Exchange Commission(SEC).However,I'm not an expert on the US financial system and the US legislation regarding financial institutions.
If the BTC price is really controlled by the USA,why don't you send a petition to the Federal Reserve,asking them to pump the price to 100K USD or even a million.
Assuming that those people you mentioned know who Satoshi is.So what?Does this even matter at this point?
I cannot take your conspiracy theory seriously.

It sounds like the OP and some friends were chatting about Bitcoin, the market
and Satoshi and came up with these wild ideas, it sounds like fantasy not reality.

In order to turn fantasy into reality there needs to be proof, evidence or data.

Grayscale and CME are powerful financial institutes and Bitcoin isnt controlled.
Just because Bitcoin hasnt hit either $10k or $100k doesnt mean its controlled.

Theory is theory until no supporting facts that validate your claim then all the same like this will remain untrue since if you imagine things on this how could they do the manipulation if we cannot see something move either bad or good they do we only see them purchasing(not satoshi) and people always base the happening of the world on what will be the movement of the market.

Also if they know Satoshi for sure there will be a leakage on his identity but until now no trace shown so definately they don't also know satoshi.

Why would satoshi be involved in controlling the BTC price?

BTC price can't be controlled by one person and Bitcoin is owned by individuals they can only manipulate the price by news or a group of people or a company with a huge money/BTC and it also depends on the trends but they will never control the price.
That is why there are whales out there waiting to buy or sell and they are mostly doing some strategy that can manipulate the price a bit.


About Satoshi If they know Satoshi he can't do anything about Bitcoin price the movement of the price depends on demand and supply which is controlled by people who buy and sell on exchanges.

Are we sure that's what we know?

Anyone can begin a sentence "As we know..." and then go on to state something completely made up.  Consider accompanying your assertions with some data to support them, perhaps?



So it must be a conspiracy then.  

Goddamn sockpuppets and their dumbassery.

Not so sure about the legitimacy of your theory, but it is pretty certain that the US is not the only country or power manipulating the price.  China has been doing this for years.  Every ban and unban is price manipulation.  Whether they ever purchased Bitcoins and used banning as a way to make profit is unknown for now but the thing is, big powers do have the capacity to influence the price of Cryptocurrencies.

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Why would Grayscale or any other organization/company know such thing? And what's the evidence that it's "under the Federal Reserve"?

As we know btc price controlled usa based financial instutions.
But who are they?
1. Grayscale
2 CMEGROUP - also they control oil and gold prices.
It means they also might know who is Satoshi.
Cmegropu seems to know also something more but thet dont tell us.

Grayscale is under Federeal Reserve.

The only one who might know who is the satoshi cpuld be federal reserve.

Yanet yellen powell and mr micheal sonnershein from grayscale...they all got same etnicy and even same reliogion.

We dont know much about btc and satoshi all we know its from usa and micheal sonnershein grayscale boss knows something what we dont know.
Byt one thing is sure the guys from usa control btc market.