Btc Price is Not showing, Missleading news and hype

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Quote from: cotton ball on December 13, 2019, 08:16:59 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on December 10, 2019, 09:55:40 AM

News and social media are a big influence on the market trends, it sometimes has eaten up our mind when listening to them and put immediate conclusions.
But the question is, who's behind that fake news? it probably a certain person that is also influential to the market or against crypto. They would manipulate our mind and also the market if we don't do research, it definitely will be caught by FOMO.

Social media become best way how to make people panic by giving information about bitcoin higher or lower price, many investor keep trust information come from social media platform and prediction bitcoin price depend with how source information link from twitter and facebook social media, always give good and bad news for bitcoin and altcoin and make investor panic for buying and selling bitcoin or altcoin.

People need to stop using social media to try to predict what the price is going to do, you're going to find nothing but rumors in those platforms and most likely you are going to get nervous about your own predictions when you find so many people arguing that your prediction is wrong, this could diminish your confidence and could make you change your mind just when you were right and then the market does what you thought it was going to do all along.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 10, 2019, 09:55:40 AM

News and social media are a big influence on the market trends, it sometimes has eaten up our mind when listening to them and put immediate conclusions.
But the question is, who's behind that fake news? it probably a certain person that is also influential to the market or against crypto. They would manipulate our mind and also the market if we don't do research, it definitely will be caught by FOMO.

Social media become best way how to make people panic by giving information about bitcoin higher or lower price, many investor keep trust information come from social media platform and prediction bitcoin price depend with how source information link from twitter and facebook social media, always give good and bad news for bitcoin and altcoin and make investor panic for buying and selling bitcoin or altcoin.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on December 09, 2019, 01:57:06 AM

Relying to news alone is a risky strategy. For me news is only a small factor when it comes to trading. I keep relying on price action because I using technical analysis where I do not care about news and other articles that keep updating in market. Rely on technical analysis when making decisions because it is all about price action and you can know when you will continue or when will you do stop loss to lessen the losses.

This is the way I trade as well, some prefer to trade using the news but by the time that you read the news is possible that you have missed whatever movement that such news produced and you will be very late to the party, it is way better to just watch the price action and if you see a significant movement in the direction of your prediction then that is the moment to buy the coin that you are watching, such method will take time to produce profits but with good money management skills your profits are assured.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 10, 2019, 09:55:40 AM

News and social media are a big influence on the market trends, it sometimes has eaten up our mind when listening to them and put immediate conclusions.
But the question is, who's behind that fake news? it probably a certain person that is also influential to the market or against crypto. They would manipulate our mind and also the market if we don't do research, it definitely will be caught by FOMO.

Why fake news ? In my opinion most of the news headliners are looking at a chart price fluctuation (i.e. pump or dump) and then afterwards trying to explain the movement with a somehow related news. Only bloomberg news seem to really move the market due to bot trading.

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News and social media are a big influence on the market trends, it sometimes has eaten up our mind when listening to them and put immediate conclusions.
But the question is, who's behind that fake news? it probably a certain person that is also influential to the market or against crypto. They would manipulate our mind and also the market if we don't do research, it definitely will be caught by FOMO.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

The hype is bigger then action

WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news?
Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

It can be the whales trying to put the bitcoin at a constant price to hoard bitcoins for the upcoming 2020 bitcoin price halving. It has also been proven in the past that many a times a single entity was responsible for breaking the resistant or support on some of the major exchanges which made the price to go bullish or bearish respectively. Like as of that on bitmex where a single person broke all resistance by purchasing about $15 million of bitcoin contracts due to which there was an overall rise in price on every single exchange.

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Quote from: d3nz on December 10, 2019, 02:32:31 AM

Media already controlling world before and we can only take against thrm using the social media but misleading news can really affect the whole world and that's why the value of BTC declining.

And the value of BTC could only pump when some whales or investor bought a lot of BTC and that could change a lot but surely more hype means a lot of FUDs will come up again.

I do not easily belive to the news in the social media because most of it are misleading news and fake news. Some of people says trust the news and for me it is a wrong decision. Trust the price action because you are always wrong until the market proves you right. Misleading news are creating fomo and it is the reason why people losing their funds.

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Media already controlling world before and we can only take against thrm using the social media but misleading news can really affect the whole world and that's why the value of BTC declining.

And the value of BTC could only pump when some whales or investor bought a lot of BTC and that could change a lot but surely more hype means a lot of FUDs will come up again.

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So where should we base the price of bitcoin?
To whom is it really up to?

We have different prices in different exchanges, somehow you could just use that as a basis into how much the value of bitcoin could be.
As of the selling part p2p then you could always make your own price.
I think that is also your right since you own that bitcoin.
Now, if both parties doesn't agree with how much you are trying to sell it then you could always look for another one.
There must be someone out there that would accept how much you want it to be sold. Specially illegal ones. Grin

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Relying to news alone is a risky strategy. For me news is only a small factor when it comes to trading. I keep relying on price action because I using technical analysis where I do not care about news and other articles that keep updating in market. Rely on technical analysis when making decisions because it is all about price action and you can know when you will continue or when will you do stop loss to lessen the losses.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 03, 2019, 06:11:15 PM

Quote from: Oceat on December 03, 2019, 05:24:09 PM

Quote from: Ahimoth on November 30, 2019, 10:30:33 AM

Quote from: kapalmabur on November 30, 2019, 06:35:11 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM

What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities.

We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile.

This is why I'd never give any conclusion without digging up more information. May others will consider it true cause they believe that media reports are believing but we can't deny also that they are sometimes paid just to give fake news. It surely won't affect us if we know what exactly it happens but for those who didn't understand the situation, they will simply slip into it.

Take for example on that Binance headquarters being seized or closed down as far as i remember which is a false one. Its clearly intended to make up some fud try to down the price because these sentiments
can possibly drive the price according to the news neither a positive or negative one.

Most of the time these sentiments doesnt affect btc price yet even on a simple day without any news, the price can swing up on big percentages.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 03, 2019, 06:49:23 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

It is undervalued is what you meant, right?

Bitcoin's price changes or volatility is what makes this market a better place to trade, this is actually good for short term traders and still good for long term traders or investors if they understand the market norms, bitcoin is a high risk investment, that alone would already tell that it's not a typical kind of asset as manipulation is and has been happening here.

While some may see the volatility of the market as a great disadvantage and I understand their reasons a market that can go from overvalued to undervalued and vice versa is a great market for a trader since you can make incredible profits in a very short amount of time if you compare your potential profits to other markets, so instead of complaining about the volatility of the market of cryptocurrencies I say that we must take advantage of it while we still can.

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Quote from: Oceat on December 03, 2019, 05:24:09 PM

Quote from: Ahimoth on November 30, 2019, 10:30:33 AM

Quote from: kapalmabur on November 30, 2019, 06:35:11 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM

What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities.

We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile.

This is why I'd never give any conclusion without digging up more information. May others will consider it true cause they believe that media reports are believing but we can't deny also that they are sometimes paid just to give fake news. It surely won't affect us if we know what exactly it happens but for those who didn't understand the situation, they will simply slip into it.

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Quote from: Ahimoth on November 30, 2019, 10:30:33 AM

Quote from: kapalmabur on November 30, 2019, 06:35:11 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM

What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities.

We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile.

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Quote from: davinchi on December 03, 2019, 01:57:45 PM

Negative thinking has always been a mindset of certain type of people. Some people are always thinking the worst will happen to them, they always feel like the world is out to get them and they are unlucky and everything that has happened bad is somehow universe telling them no.

Some people are not like that, no matter what happens they make it their duty to make it happen and succeed.

Now, those people in bitcoin could be listed as bulls and bears or fuds and fomos because in the end bitcoin is something human driven and there is nothing tied to its price, if we buy it, it will go up which is why the bulls/fomos are doing right now, if we sell it it will go down which is what fud/bear people are doing so in the long run it is the fight of two type of people that decides the price.

A market does only compose of 2 things which is sellers and buyers.Price would be driven basing on the behavior among the two including the supply and into its demand.
Manipulation,fomo and fuds is always there which is pretty normal but as a smart investor you wont really be easily driven down nor get affected no matter what the situation would be faced up.
It all matters on how you foreseen things and do react according into your own understanding and analysis.Be smart and dont get easily be affected with emotions then you would definitely do well.

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Negative thinking has always been a mindset of certain type of people. Some people are always thinking the worst will happen to them, they always feel like the world is out to get them and they are unlucky and everything that has happened bad is somehow universe telling them no.

Some people are not like that, no matter what happens they make it their duty to make it happen and succeed.

Now, those people in bitcoin could be listed as bulls and bears or fuds and fomos because in the end bitcoin is something human driven and there is nothing tied to its price, if we buy it, it will go up which is why the bulls/fomos are doing right now, if we sell it it will go down which is what fud/bear people are doing so in the long run it is the fight of two type of people that decides the price.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 01, 2019, 10:36:27 AM

there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.

Such news always appears and can be easily manipulated by a group of individuals because it has the goal of making everyone panic so that they can easily dispose of their assets because they have been influenced by false news that is already widespread. therefore do not easily believe that there is misleading news that can destroy the mindset of society, the only thing that can affect the increase or decrease in market prices depends on the volume of trade in it or from the many requests and offers from the people who trade in it.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

It is undervalued is what you meant, right?

Bitcoin's price changes or volatility is what makes this market a better place to trade, this is actually good for short term traders and still good for long term traders or investors if they understand the market norms, bitcoin is a high risk investment, that alone would already tell that it's not a typical kind of asset as manipulation is and has been happening here.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on December 02, 2019, 12:53:06 AM

This is the main reason why we shouldn’t trust some news a 100% they could really mislead their followers. We don’t even really know that were in the real bear market who knows. We know that manipulators are responsible for this kind of activity for their self interest however we will not get affected if we don’t fall to their traps.

Even if I agree when you say that we should not trust everything that we see on the news it is undeniable that we are in the middle of a bear market, from the top that we reached during this year the price has gone down almost 50% and there are many indicators that say that we are in a long term negative trend, what else they need to believe that this is a bear market, maybe this bear market will last a lot less than the previous one but it is still undeniable that this is a bear market.

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Quote from: Savemore on December 02, 2019, 06:50:02 AM

Most of the traders are relying to fundamentals than technicals and for me it is not good decision. They keep blaming the news if they experiencing losses. They do not know how to cut lose even their portfolios are negative -30% and up. Do not base your decisions in just fundamentals, remember technicals are very important.

People buying Bitcoin for a quick flip based on fundamentals are losers. Fundamentals can keep getting stronger while the price keeps decreasing, which we have seen happen. Bitcoin's fundamentals are better than ever before today, yet we're 65% below the price when Bitcoin fundamentally sucked in 2017.

Technicals are super important and the reason shitcoins with zero utility can pump for quite a long period of time. Traders just follow the charts and do not care what the name of the coin is or what it does. People ignoring technicals always pay the price for their stupidity. Fundamentals buyers in my opinion are those who buy Bitcoin today with the intention of sitting on their coins for at least 5 years.

Remember, markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent!

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 01, 2019, 10:36:27 AM

there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.

Most of the traders are relying to fundamentals than technicals and for me it is not good decision. They keep blaming the news if they experiencing losses. They do not know how to cut lose even their portfolios are negative -30% and up. Do not base your decisions in just fundamentals, remember technicals are very important.

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This is the main reason why we shouldn’t trust some news a 100% they could really mislead their followers. We don’t even really know that were in the real bear market who knows. We know that manipulators are responsible for this kind of activity for their self interest however we will not get affected if we don’t fall to their traps.

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there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

The hype is bigger then action

WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news?
Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

The big medias and whales who have thousands of bitcoin could do manipulating the price, because people are usually measure the price just by the news. The media can easily make a good news and pump the coin that they hold or the reverse.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

The hype is bigger then action

WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news?
Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!

You can catch the hype everywhere in life and the cryptocurrency market is no exception, sharks will know how to exaggerate the good and bad news to achieve their goals. However, sharks can only exaggerate news without being able to determine the prices of currencies.
The cryptocurrency market is a free market and the price is regulated by the law of supply and demand, the price will be set based on the needs of the seller and the buyer. Of course, the price on coinmarketcap does not reflect 100% of the value of bitcoin at the time, but I guess it accurately reflects 95%.

Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

In terms of the price of Bitcoin, no one can say exactly how much Bitcoin is worth, maybe $ 1 can be $ 1 million.

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But dude, price has never really been the key way to show how big the crypto market is. For me, what you can see now and what is public, is for sure some indication. But there is SO much going on that isn't recorded. Okay sure, we get P2P volume from LBC, but there's lots of other P2P type trades under the radar, not to mention OTC. Take into account that a lot of huge OTC trades actually only mean the transfer of ownership (but keys remain under the same custody)... meaning a lot of whale trades otc actually happen without any transaction happening on chain!

And now with 2nd layer taking more and more off-chain (check out the increasing Lightning Network volumes!), there's a lot of hidden market action going on.

You can't go wrong buying Bitcoin now!

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 30, 2019, 11:27:03 AM

It is the news so who do you think owns those?
Media controlled by government or the owner of the media station is just too bitter with people getting privacy.
Why would the media like that kind of idea? They will lose their job and business if ever that happens.

The rich want control with everything and the poor must stay where they are.
If they can keep their money without a trace it will be a problem for the rich. Grin

The media is so fan of making a hot topic even if the legitimacy of it is nowhere to be found. They tend to make it eye-catching with the viewers and listeners but the more they make fake news the more they lost trust of the people. So let the media use their power and we use our own power to know the truth too as long as the internet is not being censored we can do whatever we want without the manipulation of these medias nowadays.

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It is the news so who do you think owns those?
Media controlled by government or the owner of the media station is just too bitter with people getting privacy.
Why would the media like that kind of idea? They will lose their job and business if ever that happens.

The rich want control with everything and the poor must stay where they are.
If they can keep their money without a trace it will be a problem for the rich. Grin

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Quote from: kapalmabur on November 30, 2019, 06:35:11 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM

What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 30, 2019, 07:03:59 AM

This is a speculative asset, so obviously there are entities from behind who will do things to manipulate the market and they uses media to spread their intention, whether positive or negative. As for the price, it only shows how much people are willing to buy and sell, which is the trading rule. Again, when we have this kind of market which is free, lots of things can happen which we really don't or can't see, like OTC trading with huge amounts of money involved. Or maybe some whales have the intention to spread fake news to down the market, this is how everything works.

The dirty tactics is always trying to upheld once there's a good news coming, and these fud makers will always spread negative stories just to bring bitcoin down. Hype will be happening anytime, and when bitcoin price initiates a good trend, there it goes fake news will start to create shout outs to the main stream media. Unfortunately more holders and traders will be driven out, and will be panicked.

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Because CMC can't get the data from private trading or transaction, they only get their source on live and public exchanges.
The price that we are seeing now in https://coinmarketcap.com/ may not be the real value of bitcoin, it could be over/under valued but it up to us now on how to analyze to see its real value.

That's the challenge man, if you are good with finding values, you might find a good entry to get a cheap price.

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This is a speculative asset, so obviously there are entities from behind who will do things to manipulate the market and they uses media to spread their intention, whether positive or negative. As for the price, it only shows how much people are willing to buy and sell, which is the trading rule. Again, when we have this kind of market which is free, lots of things can happen which we really don't or can't see, like OTC trading with huge amounts of money involved. Or maybe some whales have the intention to spread fake news to down the market, this is how everything works.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM

What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

I don't think you were right in this regard. People can freely trade and not affect the price of Bitcoin. because all prices are exchanges when received when and only if they are traded on official exchanges. In addition, if it is transferred from one wallet to another because it is different for a certain price then it will certainly not be recorded.

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What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.

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Quote from: harizen on November 29, 2019, 02:34:13 PM

You need to understand that hype is not enough. Bitcoin price is influenced by lots of factors on which one of them is market demand. No matter how good the news is, or your so-called positive hype, traders or just a simple crypto passerby will not just buy bitcoin for the sake of getting rich in the future.

hype is a massive driver of adoption. i see the 2011, 2013, 2017 cycles as recurring gartner hype cycles, each one propelling bitcoin further and further into the mainstream. since bitcoin's circulating supply is so low, these hype cycles mean exponential price increases.

the april 2013 bubble is the reason bitcoin got my attention. then i never left. that's how it works. the problem for the OP is it ain't 2017 again yet. we've gotta wait a while for the hype to build back up. 2020 or 2021 seems more like it.

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It's the most unregulated and radical free market that I can think of. Doesn't it make a ton lot of fun to swim with brutal whales ? Just love the swings.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

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You really need to lurk long here in the crypto world to understand things. Your way of thinking and expectations is too much. Do you really think that with just positive news you are talking about, it can bring bitcoin price up? If that's how easy it is then we are all doomed since it's more predictable and whales can just play with it easily.

You need to understand that hype is not enough. Bitcoin price is influenced by lots of factors on which one of them is market demand. No matter how good the news is, or your so-called positive hype, traders or just a simple crypto passerby will not just buy bitcoin for the sake of getting rich in the future.

And the current price is not a good price? This is the best entry point to consider for those who able to sold recently. If you are currently losing that's why you bring up that sentiment, have patience. Bitcoin isn't meant to adjust on everyone's expectations about what should be its price. You are the one who needs to adjust.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

I see no hype. I think you're just searching for anything you can call "good news."

The market is in a quiet/dead phase. Bakkt's launch was a flop and despite its moderate growth in volume, nobody is hyping it. Most people also don't see BTC as a hedge against inflation. They view it as a speculative asset. Right now while the market is so dead, the mainstream couldn't be any less interested.

I still view this period as similar to early 2016. The pre-hype phase. The calm before the storm.

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Quote from: Polo7 on November 28, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

The hype is bigger then action

WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news?
Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

Try not to always prioritize prices, current prices are prices formed by buyers and sellers in the exchange or the market.
You will not be able to change it the way you expect it unless you have at least 10% of the total bitcoin available. Bitcoin is an ecosystem, if you can protect the ecosystem the price will improve.

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The price has got to be agreed on in public somewhere and somehow and the exchanges are where it happens. Hard to think of any other way really.

There is of course a ton more happening out of sight but most of it would be unwilling or unable to show itself in public.

There may be news. That doesn't mean hype and that doesn't mean epic price action. If there was true bullishness in the air it's going to be rather more out in the open than hidden away.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2019, 04:15:29 PM

Many instances the media group doesn't really show the actual happenings in the market and sometimes they're all for the negativity. We don't know, if there's an actual negotiation and they are paid to broadcast it to confuse the public.

The latest example was the said raid of the gov't on Binance Shanghai's office. I think if the author who spread the misinformation about that news will take an example of suing, they'll be more careful of reporting soon.

There would be always a corresponding consequence for those media outlets,writers etc. that do publish out non true or false news into the public yet we know that this would create fud which would affect the market.

Well, its not a new thing for this manipulative market which we wont even know or to be aware that we are just been trying to be hooked up into their own plans to drive the market as they like.

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Quote from: pixie85 on November 28, 2019, 05:13:21 PM

If you don't believe the price shown on charts and tickers isn't the real one you are free to think of your own and follow it. Smart people have done it long ago by estimating what the price will be when only 1% of people in the world use Bitcoin.

The news is being spread by people who are trading futures. Wall street pump and dumpers. The news about Chinese president was fake and had old video from a year ago because somebody wanted to short. It was tweeted by some Chinese woman and everybody started to retweet it because this is how dumb people are. The same was with the news about Raids on Binance. I bet people who were retweeting it were shorting with 10x leverage Cheesy

absolutely.

the news that we used to read ~~sometimes~~ most of the times created for the bigger interest, for example as you said those people who want to buy cheap for their future trading project will spend million dollar paying here and there to all the famous media .
this is a cheekey way to make money, those people who get used in financial market manipulation will laugh at us now.

don't rely on news , combine with some technical analysis and you will find out which one lying and which one telling the truth.

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This your first time with the media? The media has never shown the truth of most articles, and are often half-truths and half-lies instead. Plus, the current BTC price shown is dependent on the market itself, and I doubt private traders would stray far off from that price. I mean, why would they buy at a higher price when they can buy it in exchanges with smaller price, or why would they sell at a low price in private, when they can sell at a high price in public, right?

BUT, those private traders do have the ability to change the market, not by being private about trades, but rather about dumping and spreading FUD. They then buy BTC at a low price and then push it towards a bullish trend at the end. We can actually say that they are both the bear and the bull here.

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If you don't believe the price shown on charts and tickers isn't the real one you are free to think of your own and follow it. Smart people have done it long ago by estimating what the price will be when only 1% of people in the world use Bitcoin.

The news is being spread by people who are trading futures. Wall street pump and dumpers. The news about Chinese president was fake and had old video from a year ago because somebody wanted to short. It was tweeted by some Chinese woman and everybody started to retweet it because this is how dumb people are. The same was with the news about Raids on Binance. I bet people who were retweeting it were shorting with 10x leverage Cheesy

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Many instances the media group doesn't really show the actual happenings in the market and sometimes they're all for the negativity. We don't know, if there's an actual negotiation and they are paid to broadcast it to confuse the public.

The latest example was the said raid of the gov't on Binance Shanghai's office. I think if the author who spread the misinformation about that news will take an example of suing, they'll be more careful of reporting soon.

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The news are all theories about the BTC price drop there is no proof yet. Like the other news says "it is because of china why the price drop" but no proof .
I believe that news are paid news just to let other people know the situation of Bitcoin price and telling that bitcoin will going to drop more below $5k which is obvious they want to let people sell their holdings before they lose. So that the unknown group who paid for bad news can buy bitcoin at a lower price. This is an old strategy even in marketing that this strategy works just to make their business become trending.

What I think is maybe the unknown group is the one who sold a big amount of BTC to drop the price a bit and then they pay news sites to make an article that the price will drop below $xxxx since the news is spreading too fast other people think to dump BTC before the price will drop more as what I said above.

I don't know who are those unknown group it seems a big group who have a big amount of BTC holdings.

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Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!

Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.

But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.

So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then?
7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...

We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!

The hype is bigger then action

WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news?
Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!

Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good

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