Topic: BTCguild issues? (Read 8589 times)

Long blocks happen to all pools.  Deepbit is such a massive pool, that the time it takes for them to hash a "long block" is still considerably shorter than most other pools.  They just have more horesepower and can speed through the long blocks faster.  THe better comparison is the numbers of shares to complete a block.  This equates pools together and removes the time factor since it is a product of the hashing capability.

Check this page:
http://www.btcguild.com/blocks.php

and this page:

https://deepbit.net/stats

Now, you want to compare the number of shares, not the time. 

Also, its been said many times, all pools are affected by variability, and the probability of getting short blocks is going to be the same for you regardless of which pool you mine in. 

In a nutshell,  deepbit can has blocks faster due to their huge capacity (3.1 THash/sec) but you will see proporationally smaller rewards at deepbit on those blocks since you are a smaller portion of the work done.  So, you will get smaller rewards at a faster rate.

Now, at BTCGuild, you will see longer hash times since the hashing power is less (1.3 THash/sec).  BTCGuild has less than half the power of deepbit, so naturally it take the pool longer to hash a block.....but heres the kicker.... your rewards for that block will be higher than what you would get at deepbit...since you have a higher proportion of the work.  So, in a nutshell, you will take longer to hash a block but you get more rewards once a block is solved.

In the long run, its all a wash.  IF you want fast, small daily payouts, mine at deepbit as compared to BTCGuild. 

Honestly, 24 or 48 hours is NOT A GOOD WINDOW to measure 2 pools against. If you absolutely must compare pool rewards and success of block hash, you need to do a comparison of at least 7 or more days.   

So, choose the pool that meets how quick you wwant your payouts to be (as mentioned above) and any other features you like.  Such as web front end, fees, and security.  You are going to see the same amount of BTC returns from any of them (not counting any fee differential of course).

I also tried this pool a couple of days ago and left for deepbit because of too long blocks/low rewards...

the problem is that mining clients apparently don't do any kind of checks whether the the smaller jobs they are working on end up in any new blocks found... is this even possible?

hence the pool software might be so much broken that it would not distribute found blocks... so all those long blocks we see could be actually several found blocks

right now it looks as if this block is taking almost 4 hours to solve.  You wont get any rewards until the block is solved.  Also, if you are donating less than 2.5% you wont get any rewards from previously solved blocks (the rewards wont go into the "confirmed" column) until the block has been confirmed across the bitcoin network.

I'm still looking at 0 rewards for 4-6 hours, maybe more. Is this issue display only or do I need to switch back to deepbit? I'm contributing around 6Mhash/second

could just be a difficult block. Some of them took 3 hours

I'm pointing my 410 MHash/s to eu.btcguild.com since 4 hours now and earned 0.01366009 BTC. Something is still wrong there, at least for my account...

I'm new to btcguild (a tentative move from another mining team) and trying to understand why the number of shares that I show solved on my desktop, the pool block history and the my account page don't add up.

Right now, the "my account" page shows 43 total shares solved, of which 2 are from "this round". This suggests that I should have 41 shares from previous rounds. When I go to "block statistics" and add up "my shares", I get a total of 23 (including from unconfirmed blocks). Am I misunderstanding something here?

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This is why I point my 4.8 Ghash at the Guild and give 2.5%. Awesome customer service and Eleuthria is on top of any issues as soon as he finds out about them. I'll be adding another 1.4 Ghash in the next 24 hours. 

all fixed now, thanks!

you sure my account is fixed? I switched over and see my miners are earning shares but nothing is changing in "my account"

awesome, thanks for fixing it so quickly man, I will switch my miners back over now!

Block share counts, times, and rewards are now back in order.  There was a bug in the way I handled the list of the block generations for the 3 servers, and the EU server was overriding the US East server's list, rather than adding onto the main list.  As usual, this only caused a temporary problem in displaying accurate stats.  The backend is very strong and is never overwritten by the frontend when performing reward calculations, so your historical data remained safe for recalculating the rounds.

Are the displayed shares per block in the blockexplorer also fixed? Is it right, that there are more shares submitted fot the 45minutes Block than for the 5hrs block?

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   129532    2011-06-09 14:36:34    5:28:05    76722    52 until confirmed    136   0.08863168   0.00000000    
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   Processing    2011-06-09 14:13:09    0:45:51    560641    113 until confirmed    868   0.07741139   0.00000000    
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Glad to see you're working on this. I've been watching my stats and wondering why it hasn't looked right.

Thanks for the quick fix. How was that good night sleep..

Rewards are being fixed right now on the blocks.

okay. thats good. i got a real shock right now seeing that i should only get 0,01 per block. where i should get ten times the amount.

Thank you for addressing it, hope you will get it sorted soon.
I've enabled .5% donation

I agree this is starting to worry me more then anything it seems like the rounds are going for hours and I'm not sure if that is just a reportin bug on the site or what.  I'll give it till I get home today to see if things change (as I can't change the computer till then) and if they do I'll stick with it if not I'll change to another pool for a bit.

FYI the current round says it has been 5 hours which I don't think is accurate but is making me worried.

As long as your miners are running and submitting shares under your username, your getting credit. Afaik it's strictly a stats display issue which he'll get corrected asap. It's happened on more than one pool, The stats are messed up, But your still getting credit on the backend. I don't even check the stats that often, Because it will drive you crazy after a while...lol

I'm still pushing my 1.2ghash to BTCGuild, And I'm not concerned at all. He'll get it straightened out.

Working on the fix right now, something went wrong when I was asleep (as usual).  The last 4 blocks have not yet been allocated to users.  Looking into why that is right now.  Your share data for all 4 rounds is still there, so it's just an issue of getting everybody's accounts credited for the 4 blocks and getting them into the stats.

quick link? Sorry, I am working and dont have the time to sift through the threads to find it.

the same EXACT thing was happening to me, and scaring me. I went and looked at the block stats and it said I was still earning close to my normal BTC per block, but my shares wernt going up at all. I know they just switched to a new server and there are other issues with the most recent time shares were received and all, but I am very nervous with the new shares counter not working.

I deffinatly want to move back to BTCguild cause I was making a lot more than deepbit, but for now I am willing to take less for reliability.

If anyone notices the problem gets resolved let me know so I can switch back.

Look at the main BTCGuild thread. The operator has acknowledged the issue and will fix it as soon as he can. It does not affect your payout, simply the stats on the website.

i've recently switched to BTCguild to try it out

currenty i'm seeing "this round shares" are not counting although total shares are being incremented this is very worry-some tbh
 
if 'this round shares' are not counting how can I be sure i'll be getting paid on all those submitted shares?!

EDIT* HeavyB is right, I do make more with BTCGuild also but waiting for them to fix the UI bugs.

pool history said I was getting roughly my normal amount of btc per block, but my account screen was off and scareing me. I do make more on BTCguild.


BTCguild is US East so that 9:09 was eastern standard time, and that was about the time the round ended. Still dont understand why I only got 400 shares, but I made my normal amount of btc.

still a little uneasy....anxious to switch back to BTCguild but gonna stay on deepbit till it is resolved.

the stats say that block #129586 was found at 09:08:29, although blockexplorer says it was 13:27:11 (which is ~correct).


http://www.btcguild.com/blocks.php
http://blockexplorer.com/block/00000000000010b9833aa0093269f4627ec34815ff80c740e7528efb788e1f54

So yes, something is definitely wrong.

afaik the backend is working fine and it's just the webstats, all of the numbers are right on the backend and he'll fix asap, but cut the guy a break, he needs sleep just like everyone else. he posted in his thread that the stats were messed up and he'd get to it this morning

After all the talk about deepbit, I attempted to use btcguild and it was terrible in comparison.

There's a reason why I use deepbit, it simply works.

sounds a lot like what was happening to me! Glad to know I am not the only one this is happening to. I'd like to move off of deepbit, but it is reliable...

Sure its called variance, but for me its called making money
If a pool isn't giving me the return I can expect at another, I am outta there.  I mined at BTCguild for quite a while, and it seems like every round they have is a "long round".  Sure their was some short ones sprinkled in there, but on average, their rounds are horrible. LOL.  I switched to deepbit and made more in the last 12 hours than i did in 3 days at BTCguild

There is something definitely not quite right with BTCGuild currently.

I'm submitting blocks, their being accepted but my This Round shares are not incrementing although 2Shares since Reset" are. Also the Block History page is about 4hours behind currently.

It seems to be counting blocks (although my block shares between 0100 UTC and 0600 UTC were suspiciously low), but the stats page is definitely broken.

Don't think I am having connectivity issues.

I've emailed webmaster@... waiting for a reply.

The bug isn't affecting your payout, just the display. The BTCGuild has had some long rounds. It's called variance.

Like with any problem:

Report,
wait 24 hours,
check if fixed.

Just looking at the BTCguild thread I see you're not the only one having display issues, however so far these always have been only display issues.

eleutheria is based in the USA, east coast afaik, so he might just be enjoying a late breakfast or working on his actual job... the issue most likely will be fixed very soon, I don't really see the need to open a seperate thread for this.

Edit:
And if you feel the need to sell BTC at a certain rate, look into options trading instead of day trading... might be a far safer way to mine until hardware is paid off anyways!

yea, I swtiched back to deepbit until BTCguild can get their new server working without issue. I need to pay off my miners ASAP and cannot afford to not earn for 4 hours.

I had to switch to another pool after I wasnt making anything from BTCGuild   With the price of bitcoins, if your miner isnt running in a solid pool, you can loose money with a quickness....especially if you have a high hashing machine.

on BTC guild, my miners were earning shares without a problem. I was barley given any btc over 4 hours time, so I am a little annoyed. Everything was fine on my end, apparantly they are having bugs.

Did you not earn shares according to the (currently slightly bugged) overview in "My account" on BTCguild or did you only get 400 valid shares in your mining program?

Is BTCguild having issues? I have about 1000mhs but am not earning any shares? I would be on the US east server, so I am curious if anyone else is having this problem? The round went for over 4 hours and I only earned 400 some shares.