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Topic: Building Reputation as a Borrower (Read 884 times)

newbie
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June 17, 2016, 09:11:54 AM
#21
Hi guys i made a very wrong move to start with, i am trying to gain trust but instead i get a different respond, i have to admit my mistakes

1st my very first post is about borrowing
2nd i should have started building my own reputation by interacting with the community first
3rd i have not explain my very purpose that is my i get a lot of negative feedbacks
4th i have a positive intent but did a negative approach
5th my english is bad Cheesy

anyway im locking this thread now, i learned my lesson and this really made the name of my company so very unprofessional.

Thanks a lot i need to learn more. and thanks for giving me a negative trust thats really helpful Cheesy
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
June 17, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
#20
No will give you a free money here scammer..

Thanks to my thread you earn a post count Cheesy
How do you know anything about the significance of post counts here if you're brand new?  Best if you just do some reading and don't try to become trusted here so quickly.  Makes people suspicious.
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 08:16:30 AM
#19

Thank you for your reply Smiley i think what i just said is that i can not provide physical collateral also i added before you some of you commented that i can use paypal as collateral or you can just pm me if you want to lend on your terms.
You can't use paypal as collateral. If it doesn't have any money in it, it has no value an the accout itself can easily be obtained back.


no i have funds in it, what i meant from using paypal as collateral is that whatever the exchange rate of bitcoin i will send the equivalent of what i am borrowing then after i have paid it back the lender can refund my paypal
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 06:34:31 AM
#18

Thank you for your reply Smiley i think what i just said is that i can not provide physical collateral also i added before you some of you commented that i can use paypal as collateral or you can just pm me if you want to lend on your terms.
You can't use paypal as collateral. If it doesn't have any money in it, it has no value an the accout itself can easily be obtained back.
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 06:30:56 AM
#17

i tried but our country is not supported yes i tried them all just now Smiley thanks to the user at the top for giving me a hint
Which country are you in?  I don't think any ofthose lending sites restricts some coutry?
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ok so should i give up now? seriously if its not gonna work i can just lock this thread.
Yea, you won't get any loan here with just words. Better lock this or get more rants about the same things that you can't get a loan.
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seriously if you guys worry about scams then dont bother to lend and when you have a proof that a certain user is a scammer then its ok to shout it out here.
That is the reason why we ask for collateral. To prevent loss incase a borrower defaults so we wouldn't end up with nothing. There is no proof to see if someone is a scammer or not but most lower rank members scam because their accounts worth nothing.

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and if you are the one who is going to lend you can ask the borrower details and proof if the borrower fail to do so then why bother?
If I am a lender I will not lend to anyone without a valid collateral. I don't need proof of anything. I don't care where tey will use the coins jst as lon as I will not loose my money.

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i havent done anything yet and was asking for help and better understanding on how things works, its not fair to judge others just because you have this experience.
We are not judging, we are being cautious because the internet is a playground for every sinhle lies people can tell. In short, you can't trust someone online unless you know them personally.
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What did i do wrong to be accused is it because of the title?
You attempted to do something which most scammers does. I'm sorry but that is just how most people will react oncethey saw this kind of post. Not that I am accusing you, the words we throw at you are just warning for the others.
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When a forum moderator or anyone that has the power in this forum asked me to remove my thread i will be more than happy to do so.
There is no need to remove. You can lock this thread yourself. The lock butto is at the lower left part of this thread.

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and i jsut want to clear what i really mean by building reputation, i am building reputation to have a partner in my business venture but inorder to do that i have to show proof first that i can be trusted if they are afraid of scams then pls dont lend large money unless you are at least 99% sure and you know this guy already why would you lend large sum if you dont even know him that is why i want to introduce myself and eventually find new friends that will help me. if its still unclear or confusing let me know
There are other ways of getting reputation, asking for loans is not.

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*english is not my native language
Your english is understandable.

Thank you for your reply Smiley i think what i just said is that i can not provide physical collateral also i added before you some of you commented that i can use paypal as collateral or you can just pm me if you want to lend on your terms.

The more i reply to this comments the more i look unprofessional , i wont lock this thread instead i will let it open for others to rant maybe just maybe someone here could actually lend a hand to help not by lending bitcoin but by lending knowledge.

Thanks a lot guys for being helpful much appreciated.
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 06:08:30 AM
#16

i tried but our country is not supported yes i tried them all just now Smiley thanks to the user at the top for giving me a hint
Which country are you in?  I don't think any ofthose lending sites restricts some coutry?
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ok so should i give up now? seriously if its not gonna work i can just lock this thread.
Yea, you won't get any loan here with just words. Better lock this or get more rants about the same things that you can't get a loan.
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seriously if you guys worry about scams then dont bother to lend and when you have a proof that a certain user is a scammer then its ok to shout it out here.
That is the reason why we ask for collateral. To prevent loss incase a borrower defaults so we wouldn't end up with nothing. There is no proof to see if someone is a scammer or not but most lower rank members scam because their accounts worth nothing.

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and if you are the one who is going to lend you can ask the borrower details and proof if the borrower fail to do so then why bother?
If I am a lender I will not lend to anyone without a valid collateral. I don't need proof of anything. I don't care where tey will use the coins jst as lon as I will not loose my money.

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i havent done anything yet and was asking for help and better understanding on how things works, its not fair to judge others just because you have this experience.
We are not judging, we are being cautious because the internet is a playground for every sinhle lies people can tell. In short, you can't trust someone online unless you know them personally.
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What did i do wrong to be accused is it because of the title?
You attempted to do something which most scammers does. I'm sorry but that is just how most people will react oncethey saw this kind of post. Not that I am accusing you, the words we throw at you are just warning for the others.
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When a forum moderator or anyone that has the power in this forum asked me to remove my thread i will be more than happy to do so.
There is no need to remove. You can lock this thread yourself. The lock butto is at the lower left part of this thread.

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and i jsut want to clear what i really mean by building reputation, i am building reputation to have a partner in my business venture but inorder to do that i have to show proof first that i can be trusted if they are afraid of scams then pls dont lend large money unless you are at least 99% sure and you know this guy already why would you lend large sum if you dont even know him that is why i want to introduce myself and eventually find new friends that will help me. if its still unclear or confusing let me know
There are other ways of getting reputation, asking for loans is not.

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*english is not my native language
Your english is understandable.
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 06:06:01 AM
#15
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There are many ways to build reputation in this forum and you have chosen a not so good path to build one. Sorry dude but being a newbie, asking for a loan, no collateral and admitting that you want to build a reputation is not a good idea. Try to contribute in this forum by helping others, answering posts and your tenure of stay in this forum will be your ticket to building a good reputation. cheers!
what is the best way?
newbie
Activity: 19
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June 17, 2016, 06:05:25 AM
#14
No will give you a free money here scammer..

Thanks to my thread you earn a post count Cheesy
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 17, 2016, 05:57:40 AM
#13
As long as i know i am not violating anything, i was just asking for help and build reputation and relationship to whoever that is willing to help and if no one wants its fine.
Actually reputation loans, or loans being made just for the sake of building reputation is against the loan policy in here. I knew someone in wre before ho starte building his reputation by getting small loans and ended up scamming with his last loan request. Ofcourse the lender would thought the guy will repay because he proved that he had repaid previous loans but eventuall he ran.
This things just doesn't work around here. Sooner you will get a negative trust because of this. Another thing, havingto explain so much and telling stories doesn't help. That's what most scammers does in here. They are great story tellers. Cheesy
If you want to build reputation in loans, go on btcjam or loanbase. You can even try btcpop.

i tried but our country is not supported yes i tried them all just now Smiley thanks to the user at the top for giving me a hint

ok so should i give up now? seriously if its not gonna work i can just lock this thread.

seriously if you guys worry about scams then dont bother to lend and when you have a proof that a certain user is a scammer then its ok to shout it out here.

and if you are the one who is going to lend you can ask the borrower details and proof if the borrower fail to do so then why bother?

i havent done anything yet and was asking for help and better understanding on how things works, its not fair to judge others just because you have this experience.

What did i do wrong to be accused is it because of the title? When a forum moderator or anyone that has the power in this forum asked me to remove my thread i will be more than happy to do so.

and i jsut want to clear what i really mean by building reputation, i am building reputation to have a partner in my business venture but inorder to do that i have to show proof first that i can be trusted if they are afraid of scams then pls dont lend large money unless you are at least 99% sure and you know this guy already why would you lend large sum if you dont even know him that is why i want to introduce myself and eventually find new friends that will help me. if its still unclear or confusing let me know

*english is not my native language
sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 05:46:02 AM
#12
No will give you a free money here scammer..
legendary
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Merit: 1025
June 17, 2016, 05:45:45 AM
#11
As long as i know i am not violating anything, i was just asking for help and build reputation and relationship to whoever that is willing to help and if no one wants its fine.
Actually reputation loans, or loans being made just for the sake of building reputation is against the loan policy in here. I knew someone in wre before ho starte building his reputation by getting small loans and ended up scamming with his last loan request. Ofcourse the lender would thought the guy will repay because he proved that he had repaid previous loans but eventuall he ran.
This things just doesn't work around here. Sooner you will get a negative trust because of this. Another thing, havingto explain so much and telling stories doesn't help. That's what most scammers does in here. They are great story tellers. Cheesy
If you want to build reputation in loans, go on btcjam or loanbase. You can even try btcpop.
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 05:19:05 AM
#10
Did you join bitcointalk.org because you can borrow Bitcoins here? If that is your first reason why you joined this forum then better look for another forum. This is not a lending or financial institution. Would you lend money in real life to a total stranger who knocked on your door and claims that he is this and that and he can be trusted? Ask a relative to help you with your money problem.

I bet you didn't even bother reading the pinned posts about [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

how about checking out my profile when is the date i joined? also regarding money problem with 0.02 loan? which is less than 10 USD? i dont think so...
if i am having a money problem and want to scam i would be asking for larger some of btc and did you even bother reading and understanding what im trying to say?
also did you even bother researching about me and my small company before you comment? Cheesy

but anyway its probably because this is my 1st post that you assumed .. so i dont blame you Smiley there are lenders here who dont ask for collateral i think the only problem here is because im a newbie and started asking for BTC, right? so forgive me for being so noob that made you so perfect Cheesy cheers
Why would I even check or bother to check your profile? I can also put all those information in my profile just to say I am a legit person so adding those information in your profile doesn't mean anything. If you don't have money problem why ask here? Ah yeah you want to build a good reputation, weve heard of that before so it's not new. People can scam in this forum even for a 1 Satoshi. Instead of explaining your self, lock this thread since you don't really need a loan.

its your opinion so its fine Smiley like i said on my post i can provide every details you need to make you comfortable.

Look if you are not here to help me and just keep on bashing? pls. stay away from my thread. As long as i know i am not violating anything, i was just asking for help and build reputation and relationship to whoever that is willing to help and if no one wants its fine.

I respect this forum and if its a mistake to post on a lending section as their 1st post then pls moderator delete my post and just ban me. I am not trying to be sarcastic but i guess some people are really happy bullying others. Cheesy anyway im not affected Wink

i think it will be a good discussion for my thread if you just point out my mistakes and instead teach me what to do instead of being sarcastic lol pls try to be helpful

Best Regards,
Ronnel
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 04:55:17 AM
#9
Did you join bitcointalk.org because you can borrow Bitcoins here? If that is your first reason why you joined this forum then better look for another forum. This is not a lending or financial institution. Would you lend money in real life to a total stranger who knocked on your door and claims that he is this and that and he can be trusted? Ask a relative to help you with your money problem.

I bet you didn't even bother reading the pinned posts about [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

how about checking out my profile when is the date i joined? also regarding money problem with 0.02 loan? which is less than 10 USD? i dont think so...
if i am having a money problem and want to scam i would be asking for larger some of btc and did you even bother reading and understanding what im trying to say?
also did you even bother researching about me and my small company before you comment? Cheesy

but anyway its probably because this is my 1st post that you assumed .. so i dont blame you Smiley there are lenders here who dont ask for collateral i think the only problem here is because im a newbie and started asking for BTC, right? so forgive me for being so noob that made you so perfect Cheesy cheers
Why would I even check or bother to check your profile? I can also put all those information in my profile just to say I am a legit person so adding those information in your profile doesn't mean anything. If you don't have money problem why ask here? Ah yeah you want to build a good reputation, weve heard of that before so it's not new. People can scam in this forum even for a 1 Satoshi. Instead of explaining your self, lock this thread since you don't really need a loan.
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 04:42:29 AM
#8
Did you join bitcointalk.org because you can borrow Bitcoins here? If that is your first reason why you joined this forum then better look for another forum. This is not a lending or financial institution. Would you lend money in real life to a total stranger who knocked on your door and claims that he is this and that and he can be trusted? Ask a relative to help you with your money problem.

I bet you didn't even bother reading the pinned posts about [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

how about checking out my profile when is the date i joined? also regarding money problem with 0.02 loan? which is less than 10 USD? i dont think so...
if i am having a money problem and want to scam i would be asking for larger some of btc and did you even bother reading and understanding what im trying to say?
also did you even bother researching about me and my small company before you comment? Cheesy

but anyway its probably because this is my 1st post that you assumed .. so i dont blame you Smiley there are lenders here who dont ask for collateral i think the only problem here is because im a newbie and started asking for BTC, right? so forgive me for being so noob that made you so perfect Cheesy cheers
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 04:35:17 AM
#7
yes and if u want loan ....then may be join some btc lending sites and verify your documents there...repay small loans there to gain reputation and all collateral for bigger loans..but this is not the right place to ask for a loan

can you make any suggestion or recommend a site? tia Cheesy
newbie
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June 17, 2016, 03:58:11 AM
#6
well like i said im newbie to this bitcoin and so im browsing this site to learn, im just trying to see if i can at least get some lenders attention to help me jump quickly. I respect your opinions and thank you all for responding. Smiley
full member
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June 17, 2016, 03:29:10 AM
#5
yes and if u want loan ....then may be join some btc lending sites and verify your documents there...repay small loans there to gain reputation and all collateral for bigger loans..but this is not the right place to ask for a loan
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 03:25:33 AM
#4
Did you join bitcointalk.org because you can borrow Bitcoins here? If that is your first reason why you joined this forum then better look for another forum. This is not a lending or financial institution. Would you lend money in real life to a total stranger who knocked on your door and claims that he is this and that and he can be trusted? Ask a relative to help you with your money problem.

I bet you didn't even bother reading the pinned posts about [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
full member
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June 17, 2016, 03:15:32 AM
#3
broo its not good to ask about loan as a newbie...i committed the same mistake..when i was newbie i asked for a loan ..and now i have negative trust...from there i am working hard here..moderators say i could take 1-2 months for me to remove my negative trust now if i contribute to this forum..so first become experienced here..become a member or full member atleast before..
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 03:12:36 AM
#2
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There are many ways to build reputation in this forum and you have chosen a not so good path to build one. Sorry dude but being a newbie, asking for a loan, no collateral and admitting that you want to build a reputation is not a good idea. Try to contribute in this forum by helping others, answering posts and your tenure of stay in this forum will be your ticket to building a good reputation. cheers!
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
June 17, 2016, 02:00:44 AM
#1
Hi guys im new to this forum and im not that active as i am just browsing the forum to know more about bitcoins so if you notice my number of posts is low as i dont want to just spam, our team are fairly new to bitcoins. This lending thread caught my attention and want to build reputation as i cant offer any physical collateral.

Anyway heres a little info and Background.

My name is Ronnel Project Director and Owner of a web development agency located in the Philippines Xpert.Media, we are 5 in the team. Our business is registered and legit and has been running for almost a year now.

The reason why i want to build reputation is because i want the members of this community to know that we can be trusted and somehow with this reputation buildup maybe a year or 2 from now someone would lend us and help us grow through funding, we have projects and want to start another online startup but that would be maybe a year from now. So for the time being while we are waiting for the right moment to start our future project I want to build our reputation and start from here while we are also learning.

As of the moment i havent thought of accepting bitcoins or perhaps we have no client yet that asked us for that payment method so i want to start from here.

Guys hope you can help me build reputation, if you want to know more about me pls. do a research of our team our website is already posted.

I would like to start with a 0.02010000BTC loan, anyone who can lend without collateral is highly appreciated, i wont waste my time scamming other peoples hard earned money, so if you want assurance or anything that will make you feel comfortable pls. pm me i will be more than happy to provide you every details you need.

Just message me the payment term you want.

Thanks in advance guys. Pls. dont shout out that i am scammer if you have no proof, ok? Cheesy cause i just notice that some people in this thread (not the whole forum) happen to accuse borrowers without even doing proper research they just base it on current # of posts and trust meter which sometimes unfair to newbies like me.

update: I can use paypal currency as collateral as long as we follow current exchange rate Smiley
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