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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

I am not very interested in buying pre sale coins after 2021. Also I am not interested in investing in any such new coins or random coins. I know there are some coins which can give me big profit like lottery but I can never expect anything good from those coins in long term. Because there are some coins that it won't be difficult to find much difference between buying and gambling. Here those who cannot control their greed will lose their money by investing in those coins. I buy old and fundamental coins that are strong in terms of investment.

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There were a lot of launch projects for a while, yes, I had invested in them in the past and I was buying from pre-sales. Or it happened when I participated in pre-sales of stock exchanges. I usually buy from pre-sale projects with money I don't need. I don't follow the whitelists of many projects, memes and NFTs circulating on X. Even if I did, I wouldn't spend too much. It's always good to spend gradually.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

It's always only investing what you can afford to lose, you don't take a loan or put up your savings just to invest on presale because there's always uncertainty in the market, these developers will tell and promise everything just to entice investors to invest, they tell you that there will be 100x profits or immediate listing on the top exchange

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Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups?

It's part of the investigation that you take part in investor groups, so you can monitor the development and potential of the coin that you're investing, don't just take other people's advice it's your money so you should be the one to decide if a coin is worth investing or not.

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Quote from: oktana on April 14, 2024, 07:41:46 AM

I think it should be based on how much you have to invest in general. Go on Google and check, there are different strategies. Some say you should invest 60% in low risk and 40% in high risk and some suggest different. As for buying random coins, you can do that if you have a lot of money and you know very well that it could be fruitless. Don’t put your hopes in it or you could have a heart attack, and don’t invest too much because even if you would make more if it was successful, you’d lose a lot of it wasn’t.

There are so many coins we can buy and prepare for the bull since the price of Bitcoin is still going to continue the bull run.
There are so many strategies we could use to invest in the cryptocurrency market and it is better we always ask questions so that we could see people that are going to show us better strategy to invest in the crypto market.
If Bitcoin finally reaches 100k it is going to be a win for everyone.

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I think it should be based on how much you have to invest in general. Go on Google and check, there are different strategies. Some say you should invest 60% in low risk and 40% in high risk and some suggest different. As for buying random coins, you can do that if you have a lot of money and you know very well that it could be fruitless. Don’t put your hopes in it or you could have a heart attack, and don’t invest too much because even if you would make more if it was successful, you’d lose a lot of it wasn’t.

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Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 01:58:52 PM

I don't get into presales at all because I don't need to lol. I just buy coins in the open markets; and if I want to be early on a project, I just try to farm the airdrop(if it looks like they will do an airdrop) using the Paldo.io database.

As for portfolio allocation, there's really no solid rule for this. If you're bullish on the project, go bigger. If not, then go smaller. Simple as that.

Many investors are not into presales, they'll rather buy after a launch, probably because of some presale scams, you never really knows how the token will fare when it's eventually launched. Obviously most of them prefer to buy after the launch, perhaps be among the early investors or wait till it pumps then dump before they buy, like you said there's no rule book to determine how you buy, if you're bullish on a project, then go in big, if not then invest the amount that you can afford to loose. New projects are a gamble, so do your research and make your decision.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 13, 2024, 02:13:58 PM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on April 13, 2024, 01:37:40 PM

Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 01:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 02:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

You feel it Cool

BOME success = bayc members which getting back lost funds mostly Wink

WIF - I don't know but it was huge success too;
PEPE
FLOKI even...

sick things happend

These are good meme and one can earn massively from them if you know when to buy and when to hold.
There are other meme tokens too that can make us earn massively from the crypto market. It is important we invest wisely in the crypto market because anything can happen at anytime. We need to be prepared and keep buying if we have the fund and we can halt the process of we don't have enough money to accumulate some good tokens in the market.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

Look there are two thoughts on it.

In my opinion buying coins on presales is just like you are gambling in a casino where anything can happen.

Let's discuss two possibilities. One is that the project is claiming something very strong and it's giving more in their airdrops and giveaways that will attract people

The other is strong fundamentals and technical background.

These both need a good team behind it that will further work on it in the future. No project can exist on its starting fundamentals they need to be updated. And that's the thing "teamwork" that's unpredictable!

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

I don't do any of the above, new coins/projects are very risky and is basically you gambling with your money. That being said, if i were to give an advice, i'd say it is foolish to invest heavily into one new coin/project, i think it is "safer" to spread that money into different altcoins and see which one you get lucky on. These coins do not have any utility and are basically pump and dump coins, so i think the chances of ROI is higher if you buy a few of them, than when you spend all the money on one.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on April 13, 2024, 01:37:40 PM

Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 01:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 02:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

You feel it Cool

BOME success = bayc members which getting back lost funds mostly Wink

WIF - I don't know but it was huge success too;
PEPE
FLOKI even...

sick things happend

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

I rarely join the presale market but I always check what companies backing it to guarantee that there will be an initial liquidity available for the token once released to the market aside from the money gathered on presale.

Most of the presale buyers refer to what VC backing the project before they start aping in. The harder the requirements to join the presale means the higher profitability it can give since it only means the demand is too high for users to join easily.

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Quote from: mk4 on April 12, 2024, 01:58:52 PM

...using the Paldo.io database.

Seems like a nice site. I just had a peep at it. I liked what I saw. Thanks for sharing.

Quote from: salad daging on April 12, 2024, 02:14:20 PM

Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

100x isn't much of a hill to climb for meme projects when listed. They can raise all that within a few hours of listing. Sometimes they even do 1,000X and more. However, there's no guarantee that it will happen. Those who buy into such projects and make eye rolling ROI do get into them out of pure luck. It's not because they're certain of profitability. Memes are great risk to indulge and those getting into them should know this before hand, anyway.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 02:47:37 PM

Quote from: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 02:40:51 PM

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

Yes exactly nowdays fair launch memes are collecting funds in presale to drop all in liquidity pool. In past it was much different and we had tokenomies like 9 points on the list and only 10% in LPs.. which was obvious scamm.

it's just a promise though. whether the dev is going to put it all in LP or not, it's just all in the head of the dev.

investors are still going to be relying on the dev's promise. if the dev runs, its over for them. that's the reality. especially if the dev is someone who has no influence in their social media accounts, the token will just die.

Few times during this cycle devs just published tweets with contract address (mostly on SOLANA) and simple tokenomy :
50% LP 50% presale -
and it goes to 300-500M USD just because the community and hype and faith on it :>
You can't deny it :> or act like it never happend
and when presale buyers made 10,000% it is worth it or nah ?

Even if they stuck for half year on whole year at same price level - it doesn't mean its useless. Look on Pepe, they accumulate whole energy from this kind of way.

Anyway is good to see what kind of sentiment is for new projects.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:27:25 PM

I have created a coin that will have its own fully functional dapp, and it is currently in presale.
The token is $SURFER on BSC.
Dapp: https://surfer.lol /// Twitter: x.com/surferchadbnb

It is still before promotion, but I already encourage forum users to join me in creating a common community.

It's going to be interesting, I promise

things like this usually end badly. there are many like you. you will not get anything from users here. Even though memecoin is currently being talked about quite a lot in the community, don't be stupid if you try to get money from this method.
everyone here doesn't underestimate you and your project. but if you are serious about your project then do it the right way.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 02:47:37 PM

Quote from: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 02:40:51 PM

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

Yes exactly nowdays fair launch memes are collecting funds in presale to drop all in liquidity pool. In past it was much different and we had tokenomies like 9 points on the list and only 10% in LPs.. which was obvious scamm.

it's just a promise though. whether the dev is going to put it all in LP or not, it's just all in the head of the dev.

investors are still going to be relying on the dev's promise. if the dev runs, its over for them. that's the reality. especially if the dev is someone who has no influence in their social media accounts, the token will just die.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

I don't no much presale coins, as most of them have crappier fundamentals then meme tokens, and pure incompetence of the most teams and down right lying annoys the hell out of me. Their ideas or tokenomics in most of them are not thought out, many of them are unregistered securities and money grabs.

Nor i use any investment groups. I have a group of friends that do some research to split the work, as it's hard work to try to combing all the new coins. But groups in general have always been a crappy idea. There are group of insiders that know what's going to happen next so they will have time to accumulate free tokens, those get the actual profits, then there are paid customers who get signals next, those might get the profits, and people those bags are being dumbed are the ones who will get free signals. They are all basically pump and dump groups. They might get to enjoy the pump if it isn't over already.

But some microcaps in invest to from time to time. Although it's takes work to look trough all newcomers and as most of them are rugs, it's frustrating and boring job.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

I actually tried it and had a small profit by the end of the week. I have a day job and a family so I couldn't allocate much time but if you just have time and track the coins that are released just today, do a simple 15 min research and find how committed the developers are, commit to the coin and wait for the pump and sell at good time, you can have a good profit. When considering pre-sale, you should also consider the lock in period and when transacting, consider the extra fees. I might have a week off in a few months and I'm going to give my strategy another go.

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I have given up on pre-sales it's been a long time because it's not worth the agony and discomfort it cause when you invest in a project which just don't trigger rather it depreciates or don't even reach exchange. I buy coins when it's launched at the time when the coin dips after a massive pump. My portfolio keep shuffling from like 50-60% Bitcoin, 20-30% Altcoins and 10% new coins or experiments.

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No single enthusiast of that kind of trade? Huh

I am suprised.

I just can't understand why there are investors who, let's say, have a $10k budget for crypto investments, but are not willing to take the risk of, for example, buying such coins out of curiosity for $100 or even $20; they completely reject them.
Then they buy something for $1k-5k that looks promising, has a strong whitepaper, raises $5M before listing, and after a week, it's -50%, pretending to grow, promising utility, or pretending to have big plans.
The team still holds 20% of the supply, in addition to reserves for marketing, development, etc.

Unless you are part of a group of people who only invest in the top 10 by market cap, then it's a different story.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

The honest truth is that buying coins on presale has now be an old fashioned way of buying coins presently now people prefer buying coins after it has been listed and probably make significant performance in making a pumb increase , it is best you make an informed decisions as this regards and as well investing only the money you can afford to lose by understanding your risk tolerance level.

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Quote from: loco_loco00 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:53 PM

I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

Technically I don't buy coins in every presale since I don't really have an allocated crypto to invest for it. My money is really out of the blue right now, due to family expenses that has bee rolling out personally. I'm only looking forward from bounties coming from airdrops which I definitely considering it as gambling from no assurance whether this project will uprise in the future.
Most probably, this could be a promotion of new tokens particular with mining apps that pays potential tokens which soon enters the market.

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Its very hard to determine how much someone can invest in a project or to each project since investment in cryptocurrency can be even less $10 at some series of zeros, let say when a coin is listed at $0.00000001 with $10 you are holding about billions of it and with the said 100$ then you can be able to hold different coin especially the memecoins and can worth something very good in future that is during bull run.
What I know is that altcoin aside bitcoin is gambling and you must be very active if you want to invest in altcoin, that is why most time i prefer making investment in bitcoin than altcoin due to the volatility rate and can lose 89 percent of its original price.

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When investing in projects on presale, I think you we need to be very smart and invest wisely because many of these projects are not going to launch and some are just a scam. Presale is good to buy but we need to do careful analysis before investing in them because anything can happen in the market and we might lose money if the project finally launch but could not do well in the market.
We need to study and keep a close eye to project we are investing in so that we don't lose our entire savings.

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I don't use those signals groups and if I have money to buy, why not I'd buy on presale because typically after listing on the exchanges, that's when the magic happens and the dump goes through the devs. If you're deciding to invest on them, it's not that late at all but many traders and investors just buy them once they're on the exchanges and not during the presale. If you like buying them on the presale, you have to make sure that you won't miss the listing part.

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Investing on pre-sale doesn’t guarantee anything and it’s not easy to trust projects on that early stage.
If you are not able to invest during those time it’s ok because usually, some of them become more cheaper when they reach the exchanges and if you really want to hold some of those tokens then you can just wait for the right timing. New projects in the bull market seems to be more ok and succeed later on, maybe because of the hype.

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I don't ingage in presales, but from what I have observed in the altcoin market since 2019, let me tell you the mystery of token presales. A project could decide to sell their token for $0.05 during presale, and when they finally list that token on an exchange, it will be listed at a price of $0.005. A few minutes after listing, the price will pump by +670%, which could take the price to $0.0385. If you see such a token, you might just feel deceived to think that such a token has gained a massive pump without even realizing that that token has not even pumped to the presale price of $0.05.

Sometimes too, the token would just be listed with the presale price of $0.05, and a few seconds (or minutes) after listing, the price drops to $0.008 or $0.005, leaving many price orders unexecuted. If you are lucky enough, you could only make a little profit from that investment, or you could totally be at a huge loss. Before investing in a presale, always keep in mind that it could either be profitable or not. So, invest wisely and only what you can afford to lose.

In my opinion, it is better to buy a token after it has been listed, and when the price has dropped a bit, you can buy and wait for a little pump when you will resell.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on April 12, 2024, 03:01:07 PM

So you want to promote your own token? If so, I don't think it's going to work in this section. For me, I don't invest a single penny in presale right now. Because maybe very rarely presale projects get pumped. Most scammers take advantage of bull runs. They just launch a new token and raise funds, then there is no more activity and the chart starts going down. That's how a lot of investors lose funds every day. I won't prefer anyone to gamble with presale. It's better to trade rather than invest in a brand new presale token.

So You prefer crypto /tokens sponsored by VC? or whales ? or what kind of development ? Even Yesterday coin like : $Vitaleak ButterChicken made x5 (from listing) and presaleres got bigger revenue. It's nothing rare I guess.

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So you want to promote your own token? If so, I don't think it's going to work in this section. For me, I don't invest a single penny in presale right now. Because maybe very rarely presale projects get pumped. Most scammers take advantage of bull runs. They just launch a new token and raise funds, then there is no more activity and the chart starts going down. That's how a lot of investors lose funds every day. I won't prefer anyone to gamble with presale. It's better to trade rather than invest in a brand new presale token.

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Quote from: electronicash on April 12, 2024, 02:40:51 PM

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

Yes exactly nowdays fair launch memes are collecting funds in presale to drop all in liquidity pool. In past it was much different and we had tokenomies like 9 points on the list and only 10% in LPs.. which was obvious scamm.

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OP did have a presale memecoin which he needs 40 ETH lol
even the memecoin investors will also be choosing the memecoins they buy, they don't just randomly pick some and then buy to hold.

early investors are getting scammed by the devs so these investors already learned.
investing in presale is not how people do it these days. they just look at the top coins in the market and choose which one they like the most or which they think can make them rich.

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Memecoin => Presale => 100x is bullshit.

I don't have the budget to buy a meme like this which will obviously lose money when it is launched in the DEX market I have seen many cases where devs take money away, devs only use money for liquidity but the fact is the price continues to fall, leave the presale memecoin.

There are many groups that provide information about presale in some projects but I am not sure how reliable it is, this is just their bad strategy to create fomo. Stay DYOR

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I don't get into presales at all because I don't need to lol. I just buy coins in the open markets; and if I want to be early on a project, I just try to farm the airdrop(if it looks like they will do an airdrop) using the Paldo.io database.

As for portfolio allocation, there's really no solid rule for this. If you're bullish on the project, go bigger. If not, then go smaller. Simple as that.

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I have created a coin that will have its own fully functional dapp, and it is currently in presale.
The token is $SURFER on BSC.
Dapp: https://surfer.lol /// Twitter: x.com/surferchadbnb

It is still before promotion, but I already encourage forum users to join me in creating a common community.

It's going to be interesting, I promise

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I would like to hear from you how much you allocate for the risk associated with buying coins in presale. Roll Eyes

How do you determine the budget for this? It is known that a coin that takes off can achieve even x100 or more, so someone who is lucky can earn many times more than they risked. Huh

Do you buy, for example, 10 random coins for 100$ each, or do you wait for something interesting and invest heavily?

Do you use any alpha groups or investor groups? What kind, for example?

The last successful presale was, for example, Portal, but it was difficult to get in, while SMOLE didn't perform well. Previously, good presales were, for example, PORK and BOME. In which projects have you made a lot of profit?

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