Topic: Buy Bitcoins with your Bank Account (Sepa, Swift and int. Wire) (Read 625 times)

Firstly the definition of "Escrow"
 
   "a bond, deed, or other document kept in the custody of a third party and taking effect only when a specified condition has been fulfilled."

So it is true Escrow.

Secondly-

1) Who the hell is going to use a "law firm" for trading small amounts of bitcoin.  It would have to be huge trade to justify the cost.

2) Why would a "legitimate company" be any more trustworthy than someone like OgNasty who has provided Escrow services for large amounts of bitcoins with years of history and zero problems.  I would rather trust some like OgNasty than some fly by night internet escrow service.

3) You call yourself "Scam Investigator" but I note from your history you have inquired about purchasing a legendary account - usually the sign of a scammer :  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15132628

To quote you

"Their only claim to legitimacy is "forum trust", but remember that "forum trust" is worth exactly $0.00"

If that is the case why do you want to buy a legendary account?

@Bitcoin-Sales:  IF your offer is legitimate, then be aware that what mark113 is talking about is not true escrow. It's just a stranger with good reputation on this forum who is willing to be a middleman.  Their only claim to legitimacy is "forum trust", but remember that "forum trust" is worth exactly $0.00 if he vanishes on you (e.g. dies, steals the btc, etc.).

So if you plan on doing lots of business, you'd be better off with an actual legitimate company or law firm to act as escrow/trustee.

point 1 still applies - use escrow

The thing is if he wants to re-register the next time, he might decide to by a senior member account just to appear legit.

If you are not a scammer -

1) You need to accept Escrow, especially as a newbie.  There is forum Escrow list here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778

2) Please post a signed message from the bitcoin address holding all the bitcoin you have for sale.

3) I bet you wont do either of the above

4) Get lots of negative trust, scrap your account then re-register and try a new scam.

You are obviously a child for boldly accusing random people of being a scam!
Wtf is wrong with you?!
If you want to raise the awareness that people shouldn't blindly trust any offer they come across (which would be fine) than open your own post but don't spam other peoples posts with your baseless accusations!

This is a legit offer involving a money transfer to an european Bank Account, which makes any kind of scam way harder than paypal, westernunion or simimilar money processor offers!!
In addition to that, every buyer can just start with a 10 Euro order to gain the necessary trust for ordering higher amounts!!

And a 2% fee is fair! Not cheap! Suspicious would be 1% or less, or no fee at all (or not stating clearly an exact fee in the first place!),

@devil11:
So everyone who has a new account on bitcointalk is a scam?
That is the stupidest thing I heard in quite a while.. especially if one considers the fact that you can often buy "old" bitcointalk accounts with a hight reputation and trust level.
At least with this offer I can not see that it is such an "obvious scam".. Why would one offer a minimum of 10 Euro, like a kind of test buy, if you plan on taking the money and run? that wouldn't make sense..one can do that once or twice and make 20 Euro.. which would hardly be worth the effort.
did you try to buy some btc from BTC-Sales and got scammed? or are you just makeing wild accusations based on nothing??

Im a newbie too and also offered today to another user on bitcointalk to sell him/her bitcoins, does that make me a scam too? ..because i didnt spend first a couple of years posting on a bitcoin forum??

there is always a risk involved if you do business with strangers over the internet.. especially when it comes to bitcoin related activities and that has hardly anything to do with being a newbie or having a good reputation. of course the risk is higher if you deal with someone without a reputation, but everyone who has a good reputation started as a newbie once!

And what's your problem with "cheap fees" do you sell bitcoins too BUT for a much higher fee? and are spreading now fud because you don't want to loose customers?? I think 2%-4% is a pretty fair fee and i'd be rather suspicious with offers demanding 10-20% fees!

I would advise people to stay away from all these newbies opening selling threads with their fast release and cheap fees, all of these are obvious scams even a child can see through the scam.

Buy Bitcoins "anonymously" with your Bank Account (Sepa, Swift and international Bank Transfer).

- Secure!

- Fast!

- Anonymous!

- Lowest and latest Exchange Rate! (based on Bitstamp or BitcoinAverage)

Bitcoin Price is always based on the latest and lowest Exchange Rate (Bitstamp or BitcoinAveage + 2%) at the moment the payment ARRIVES in our Bank Account.
We do NOT charge any additional fees!

NO identity verification, NO address verification and NO Bank Account verification neccessary!

You don't have to be the owner of the Bank Account.

How does it work?:

1. Make a trade request on:
-  Here on BitcoinTalk via pm
-  Telegram App: @BitcoinSales
-  Snapchat: BitcoinSales
-  Skype: BitcoinSales
-  Email: BitcoinSales(at)keemail.me

2. Receive the Bank Transfer information.

3. Make the Payment!

4. Receive your Bitcoins in your Wallet. (1-24 hours later)

The Bank Transfer information will include a "Reference" Number! Do NOT forget to include THIS "Reference" Number on your Bank Transfer and do NOT add any additional informations to the "Reference" Number!

How long does it take?:

- 1 - 24 hours: During Bank working hours - if you have a Bank Account within the EU (European Union/Sepa area).

- 48 hours: On Weekends.

- 72 hours: On Weekends if a Holiday follows.

Swift and international Wire Transfer:

- Ask your Bank how long it takes and about the fees for a payment from your account to an european (Sepa) Bank account.

- The amount of Bitcoins that you will receive is based on the current Bitstamp or BitcoinAvearge rate + 2% and the actual amount of money in Euro (US Dollar will be converted automatically into Euro) that we receive in our Bank Account. (We will not cover any fees that your bank might charge you and your bank might take those fees directly from the total amount that you want to transfer.)