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full member
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January 03, 2018, 07:12:55 AM
#15
You know its a good idea to build and open an ICO but it requires so many things to do. It does need a great and well planned ahead of time to ensure the success towards competitive different ICO's around the world. Now if you fail on the first steps making the pre-limenary parts it might crash or not succeed at all.
newbie
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January 02, 2018, 12:30:34 AM
#14

Your going to open a ICO "stock" exchange, and have it publicly listed without doing even an S-1 offering ? Have you got a no action letter from the SEC ? Where is your regulatory plan ?

Regulation A is limited to $5m, that's not even enough to pay the auditors and lawyers

member
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December 30, 2017, 07:15:27 PM
#13
1. the Regulation A, whether Tier 1 or 2, will never qualify you to trade on NASDAQ or NYSE. The issuer would not be a fully reporting Exchange Act issuer

2. How do you intend to qualify and register as a 'National Securities Exchange' under the Exchange Act?

3. If you cannot accomplish #2, how would ever meet the capitalization requirements for listing on NASDAQ or NYSE?

4. NASDAQ charges a listing fee as well.

5. Every listed security on the Chicago Stock Exchange (CHX) is listed on the NYSE. The CHX leads in odd-lot trading.

6. If ICO tokens are "illegal" how is facilitating the exchange of said tokens not facilitating the exchange of unregistered or otherwise unexempt securities?



I am truly agree with this gentlemen. In States, how do you think you gonna do all off this stuff under radar? I just can say, Good Luck!
newbie
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December 23, 2017, 02:29:35 AM
#12
What are the details of the Reg D, Rule 506(c) offering you are generally soliciting?
sr. member
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December 08, 2017, 06:35:27 AM
#11
This is a very nice development and project and I think this  should be first of it kind. Many projects has tried to get approval from SEC but there couldn't and if this gets a prove by them then we are moving to a digital business world. I hope this project come out soon. Crypto currencies are developing every day and we need this kind of exchanges sites to meet up with high demand of the coins in the market.
newbie
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November 10, 2017, 05:39:38 PM
#10
1. the Regulation A, whether Tier 1 or 2, will never qualify you to trade on NASDAQ or NYSE. The issuer would not be a fully reporting Exchange Act issuer

2. How do you intend to qualify and register as a 'National Securities Exchange' under the Exchange Act?

3. If you cannot accomplish #2, how would ever meet the capitalization requirements for listing on NASDAQ or NYSE?

4. NASDAQ charges a listing fee as well.

5. Every listed security on the Chicago Stock Exchange (CHX) is listed on the NYSE. The CHX leads in odd-lot trading.

6. If ICO tokens are "illegal" how is facilitating the exchange of said tokens not facilitating the exchange of unregistered or otherwise unexempt securities?

jr. member
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November 06, 2017, 08:40:34 AM
#9
Right, I'm just saying if something's sold to a US resident, US law applies to that sale, regardless of the seller's location.

I belie the same applies to EU,Canada, Australia etc, so if your selling to residents of those jurisdictions, you need to take their regulation in to account too.
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And yes, C4072216.

California?
newbie
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November 05, 2017, 12:32:11 PM
#8
On a Canadian legal perspectives, I don't think this could work properly. Even if a startup use your exchange for selling ICO token, they will always need compliance from Regulators...

Louis
www.bitcoin-law.ca
The Crypto Lawyer
newbie
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November 05, 2017, 11:51:33 AM
#7
Right, I'm just saying if something's sold to a US resident, US law applies to that sale, regardless of the seller's location.

And yes, C4072216.
jr. member
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November 04, 2017, 04:01:28 PM
#6
USA is offshore for me.  In most(all?) Of Europe companies have a registration number in a public register when they incorporate. E.g. 434598 companies registration office Ireland. Many jurisdictions require cap table too. Dont you have a registration number or similar for whatever state your incorporated in?
newbie
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November 04, 2017, 12:32:48 PM
#5
It is impossible to conduct a legal ICO for a token-based security
within the USA
Most of these are in Singapore/Switzerland/UK for a reason

You are correct though that our stock is not listed anywhere. That is true for most companies, especially new ones. However, our Regulation A public offering will require us to list our stock on a national securities exchange upon qualification.

Don't you have somewhere you have to register your cap table or file for incorporation in a state?


Correct, most ICOs are conducted through offshore entities. But US federal and state law still applies to any and all sales to US residents, regardless of the issuer's jurisdiction. Offerings within the US require qualification on both the federal and state level unless offered as a "covered security." If federally qualified as a covered security, the issuer would only need to file with states, instead of receiving qualification from them.

For a public offering, yes, your registry would need to be held by an SEC registered transfer agent with DTC clearing, like Computershare or AST. For a private offering, regulators don't require it for companies that don't need it, but many investors do prefer the safety of knowing that the cap table is overseen by a neutral third party. And of course the company needs to be incorporated. Stock doesn't exist otherwise.
jr. member
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November 04, 2017, 11:01:02 AM
#4
So you are not condict an ICO but you will make a public offering. What's and where is the difference?
You sell your stock which is listed where exactly? Oh,nowhere yet...
All of this from a noob with zero history here,only empty and useless words.

Better to lock this scam attempt thread of yours noob and gtfo!

The financial world allows for several different public offerings depending on jurisdiction(SAFE,SAFT,Convertibles,debentures,Equity,lease -purchae , put-options) all have their own differences.


It is impossible to conduct a legal ICO for a token-based security within the USA
Most of these are in Singapore/Switzerland/UK for a reason


You are correct though that our stock is not listed anywhere. That is true for most companies, especially new ones. However, our Regulation A public offering will require us to list our stock on a national securities exchange upon qualification.

Don't you have somewhere you have to register your cap table or file for incorporation in a state?
newbie
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November 02, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
#3
So you are not condict an ICO but you will make a public offering. What's and where is the difference?
You sell your stock which is listed where exactly? Oh,nowhere yet...
All of this from a noob with zero history here,only empty and useless words.

Better to lock this scam attempt thread of yours noob and gtfo!

We are currently conducting a private offering under Regulation D Rule 506(c), which permits public solicitation. We are not conducting a public offering yet. The funds received from our Regulation D private offering will be used to pay the required audit and filing fees for our Regulation A public offering. Our public offering will only be held following SEC qualification.

Funds received from our Regulation D private offering will also be used to begin our licensing and registration as an SEC and FINRA registered broker-dealer and SEC registered transfer agent while we await the SEC's qualification for our Regulation A public offering.

It is impossible to conduct a legal ICO for a token-based security for multiple reasons:
  • ICO smart contracts do not allow for the collection of required KYC/AML.
  • No ledger is a operated by an SEC registered transfer agent (for offerings under Regulation A).
  • ICO smart contracts do not verify investor accreditation (for offerings under Regulation A, Regulation CF, and Regulation D).
  • ICO smart contracts do not limit unaccredited investors to investing only a minor percentage of their annual income or total net worth (for offerings under Regulation A, Regulation CF, and Regulation D).
  • No ICO smart contract is an SEC and FINRA registered funding portal operated by an SEC and FINRA registered broker-dealer (for offerings under Regulation CF).
  • For Regulation D offerings in general, the securities issued are are classified as restricted securities, which cannot be resold, traded, or transferred without prior registration with the SEC, so investors would not be able to trade their tokens.
  • No current crypto exchange is legally allowed to broker transactions of token-based securities, as they are not SEC and FINRA registered broker-dealers.

You are correct though that our stock is not listed anywhere. That is true for most companies, especially new ones. However, our Regulation A public offering will require us to list our stock on a national securities exchange upon qualification.

If we are fortunate enough that our Regulation A public offering is fully subscribed, it shouldn't be too difficult for us to meet qualification on NYSE-MKT (listing standard three) and Nasdaq Capital Market (market value listing standard). We would likely go with Nasdaq Capital Market, as NYSE likes charging a premium listing fee "for prestige," while all we'd be interested in is checking a regulatory box required by our Regulation A public offering, as we would rather list ourselves as a token-based security on our exchange. CHX is another national securities exchange we would meet qualification for listing on. IEX hasn't outlined their listing requirements publicly yet.
hero member
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November 02, 2017, 04:04:05 PM
#2
We are a new startup building a fully licensed and regulated platform for cryptocurrencies and ICOs. You can find more information on our website: gildset.com.

We are selling our stock at 50% price today to accredited investors, and we will sell it at 100% price to the general public after we file with the SEC. Accredited investors will be able to sell their stock to public investors, if they so wish, though we would prefer long-term investors. We hope to conduct our public offering in January 2018.

We aren't conducting this sale as an ICO because that would unfortunately get us in regulatory trouble. But that's what we're solving. We're building a fully licensed exchange where anyone can trade tokens or issue an ICO with full legal and regulatory compliance, no different from a stock exchange. Instead of conducting an illegal ICO, we will credit our token to investor accounts once our platform is licensed and launched. Our stock will also be listed on a national exchange (NYSE, Nasdaq, IEX, etc), as required by the SEC.

We are conducting this sale under Regulation D Rule 506(c), which permits public solicitation as long as we only accept accredited investors. Our public offering will be conducted under Regulation A, open to investors of any accreditation status.

So you are not condict an ICO but you will make a public offering. What's and where is the difference?
You sell your stock which is listed where exactly? Oh,nowhere yet...
All of this from a noob with zero history here,only empty and useless words.

Better to lock this scam attempt thread of yours noob and gtfo!
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 02, 2017, 03:39:59 PM
#1
We are a new startup building a fully licensed and regulated platform for cryptocurrencies and ICOs. You can find more information on our website: gildset.com.

We are selling our stock at 50% price today to accredited investors, and we will sell it at 100% price to the general public after we file with the SEC. Accredited investors will be able to sell their stock to public investors, if they so wish, though we would prefer long-term investors. We hope to conduct our public offering in January 2018.

We aren't conducting this sale as an ICO because that would unfortunately get us in regulatory trouble. But that's what we're solving. We're building a fully licensed exchange where anyone can trade tokens or issue an ICO with full legal and regulatory compliance, no different from a stock exchange. Instead of conducting an illegal ICO, we will credit our token to investor accounts once our platform is licensed and launched. Our stock will also be listed on a national exchange (NYSE, Nasdaq, IEX, etc), as required by the SEC.

We are conducting this sale under Regulation D Rule 506(c), which permits public solicitation as long as we only accept accredited investors. Our public offering will be conducted under Regulation A, open to investors of any accreditation status.
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