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Topic: Buy Teak Trees with Bitcoin and Save the Planet (Read 174 times)

newbie
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January 10, 2018, 02:08:59 AM
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I don't know anything about the OP but

I buy lumber in Latin America for a guitar company I am involved with and there are a lot of these teak farms in Latin America, you can even get local citizenship in exchange for the investment in Costa Rica and Panama (typical wealthy people make the investment to get the tax break associated with citizenship in those countries)....  you can google Costa Rica or Panama teak investments if you like. I know these investments have been controversial for a number of reasons

From what I can tell is the OP is giving the total return over 20 years to harvest the wood, assuming the yield is at 100% and the prices go up  .. but that might end up being pretty low when considering the annual return...
legendary
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I must not have seen this (we all make mistakes), but it seemed to answer a few of my questions, not in a good way.

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your timber will be sold in US Dollars ($)

2. Renewable resources and in particular wood from certified forests represent an increasingly interesting investment. Trees are indeed an investment wherein the return is “naturally” growing, increasing its price at every centimeter of growth

Regarding the animals, yes, the income from the teak sales will help us to protect our territory from the illegal hunting. We need to increment out Cameras to monitories the area and prevent illegal hunting.

Now i'm really taken for a trip... So you ARE buying trees, to grow for timber to sell to protect the environments of animals, instead of simply growing trees/plants which are actually assistance towards their environments? It seems like many extra steps, years, and middle-men before the benefit gets anywhere near the animals. By this logic, the animals will not receive any benefit from donations today for 20-years, when you plan to sell the teak; by this time these animals could be gone completely, what will be done with the money then?

How is this an efficient use my funds with the goal being to preserve animal life?
Correct me if I am wrong, there is no direct benefit to the animals until the teak lumber is sold, 20-years from your "investment".

This sounds like a gamble, on the price of trees, under the guise of animal altruism and environmental preservation, which will take 20-years and requires trust in a company without any background, history or even a salient business plan..

Also, the only benefit to the animals will be "to increment out cameras to monitories the area", is that right?


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I had this idea to try to sell or trade our trees for Crypto, so maybe we can earn something that can help us to cover just some of our expenses. Anyway we are not trying to scam nobody and this is not a Charitable organization!

Our web site was hacked last year but we are working on it! I will advise you as soon will be online again so you will find all the info regarding our business plan.


Your website was hacked last year, (2016?) , it has all of your important information regarding your business model, investment opportunities and the nuances of your operation, yet it has remained down this entire time? Have the hackers stolen the web-design out of your brain, or why has there been no replacement website during the downtime?


It sounds more like you are trying to run an agricultural business, not a wildlife preserve so I am confused why you framed it as such in the beginning. You are also straying from the original Teak idea into all sorts of other things, while avoiding some very direct concerns about the allocation of these funds or exploring how feasible this idea is for such a long-term investment.


This reminds me of Cloud-Mining, but for Teak trees, and I don't see anything worthwhile being presented to actually take you seriously thus far. Obviously this is just my opinion, but you're going to need to be more detailed, precise, and take your business as seriously as you're expecting others to. It feels like an exit-scam, or an entry-scam, either way I don't see any track record of payments, so how is there any guarantee of payments other than "teak trees are real"?
newbie
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Hi Bill Gator!

your reply is good!
Hey I really think that there is a miscommunication!
We are a young private company, in 2014 we start this project to plant Teak and obviously thinking to the future because it takes 20 years!
We build our nursery for the sapling first and we started planting. Now we are taking care of all our trees Teak and many other local hardwood species. In the mean in time, in 2016 we start planting Cacao and Vanilla but even these two productions they takes around 5 years. Ok ...now we are producing some organic Pineapple, Papaia, Bananas, Coconut and this are for the family of our workers.
We will need more workers in the future, yes...but now we have to do couple of bridges, solar panel etc.

I had this idea to try to sell or trade our trees for Crypto, so maybe we can earn something that can help us to cover just some of our expenses. Anyway we are not trying to scam nobody and this is not a Charitable organization!

Our web site was hacked last year but we are working on it! I will advise you as soon will be online again so you will find all the info regarding our business plan.

if you need more info about what we are doing just find us on Facebook

legendary
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-snip-

Please note that one tree cost 40 usd and after 20 year you will earn 504 usd

This is 1160% in 20 years (sorry but before I wrote 1.160%)

It is 100% secure because Teak trees are real!

I've gotta tell you, I am finding this thread hilarious; I'm not sure if there is miscommunication happening, or if you are simply using strange logic to explain yourself. To me, this argument could be used for anything...

Please note that one water bottle cost $1 usd and after 20 years you will earn $25.

It is 100% secure because water bottle are real! This is not an argument, and this is not rational thinking
We need an explanation; how are you going to turn a profit, while protecting these animals, trees and paying multiple salaries?

If you are need of money now, why will you not be in need of money 20-years from now? What are you doing to make the money turn into enough money to cover your expenses and promises?

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And you never know that the prices of teak tree wood might fall.

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I'm pretty sure whatever the explanation is for their business model, it is not cutting down the teak trees they are preserving for the processed wood they could sell. I doubt the price of teak wood will have much of an impact on the price of saplings, or preserving teak trees (unless they become a highly sought after luxury, in which case you'd need more money for security).

I'm very amused, and interested to hear further explanation of this project; usually things like this are simply asking for donation and have "proof-of-work", to show the donations are being used for a good cause, however you seem to be mixing a Charitable organization with a Security/Index fund of some kind.

How are you transforming altruism, in this manner, into a profitable endeavor?
Can you provide proof of your good deeds, protecting those which you claim this will?

I'm not convinced one way or another, whether or not this project is for real, but I am interested in hearing you explain this further and hopefully prove that this is a worthwhile project.
newbie
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Hi Chronicsky!

Yes we grow Teak from seeds. The sapling are placed in our protected nursery until ready to be plant.
We plant the sapling when they have 5/6 months.

We ensures that all the trees will receive the best care and attention through the entire growth cycle of 20 years.

Like all commodities, your timber will be sold in US Dollars ($) with the formula FOB (Free on Board), this means that once the shipment is prepared the buyer will have to pay in full before the shipment reaches its final destination.

Only after receiving the payment the owner of the trees can authorize the shipment of the timber.

Regarding the Teak price:
1. the wholesale price of teak has increased on average by 5.5% per year since 1972 (Source ITTO)

2. Renewable resources and in particular wood from certified forests represent an increasingly interesting investment. Trees are indeed an investment wherein the return is “naturally” growing, increasing its price at every centimeter of growth

Regarding the animals, yes, the income from the teak sales will help us to protect our territory from the illegal hunting. We need to increment out Cameras to monitories the area and prevent illegal hunting.
legendary
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Just looking for peace
Hi,

Sorry if I was not clear on my post....I'm new in this community!

We are protecting our land from illegal hunting so we have many expenses like everybody!
Actually we provide salary and food for 3 family!

Any help is appreciated so we decided to sell these trees!

If you buy one or more trees you are helping our Company to sustain local community, you are producing clear CO2, and when we will cut the tree you will receive the income generated from the wood.

Please note that one tree cost 40 usd and after 20 year you will earn 504 usd

This is 1160% in 20 years (sorry but before I wrote 1.160%)

It is 100% secure because Teak trees are real!

i don't understand

do you mean, buy a sampling and plant it and wait for 20 years for it to grow properly so that we can get the returns?

Also, what are the chances for the investor to get the money?
And you never know that the prices of teak tree wood might fall.

And if am not wrong, these would help you sustain(not animals directly) and so that you can look out for those animals?
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Hi,

Sorry if I was not clear on my post....I'm new in this community!

We are protecting our land from illegal hunting so we have many expenses like everybody!
Actually we provide salary and food for 3 family!

Any help is appreciated so we decided to sell these trees!

If you buy one or more trees you are helping our Company to sustain local community, you are producing clear CO2, and when we will cut the tree you will receive the income generated from the wood.

Please note that one tree cost 40 usd and after 20 year you will earn 504 usd

This is 1160% in 20 years (sorry but before I wrote 1.160%)

It is 100% secure because Teak trees are real!
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1415
Welcome!

we are looking for help from the community!

Since 2014 we are involved in Jaguars, Tapirs and Howler Monkeys conservation fighting the illegal hunting.
It's not easy at all but we are try to do our best!

We would like to exchange some Teak Trees for Crypto Currency!
Yes, you can buy 1 Teak tree and help us!

This is a unique investment opportunity!

You can earn 1.160% on your investment in 20 years.

Purchasing only 1 Teak Tree you will earn USD 504,00

Contact us!


I have to ask.  How does buying a teak tree help save those animals.  How is this an investment, and how would one collect the 1% return 20 years from now.  Sorry this just seems like an odd thread without any information.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Welcome!

we are looking for help from the community!

Since 2014 we are involved in Jaguars, Tapirs and Howler Monkeys conservation fighting the illegal hunting.
It's not easy at all but we are try to do our best!

We would like to exchange some Teak Trees for Crypto Currency!
Yes, you can buy 1 Teak tree and help us!

This is a unique investment opportunity!

You can earn 1.160% on your investment in 20 years.

Purchasing only 1 Teak Tree you will earn USD 504,00

Contact us!
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