Topic: Buying in early or after a listing? (Read 318 times)

Neither is better than the other, both have their own risks & profit opportunities, for example, tokens that are not yet listed on CEX, do have a higher profit level if the token is later listed on CEX. Likewise, if the token is already listed on CEX, it means that CEX considers the token to be a safe token, and we will definitely only have a smaller chance of making a big profit.

If the presale has a bonus stage, it's going to be a money grab / rug pull and fundamentals for it are going to be bad. And that i say from experience. There's really not a good reason for bonus stage to exist, and if it has referrals on top of it, it's resembling more and more a common ponzi.

Main reason people should buy it before it get listed is that marketcap is usually very low at that point, but depending on the issuance rate and marketcap at the time, it can already be overvalued, and if it has a bonus stage, then those involved are trying to flip it with profit soon after listing. At that point, if it's overvalued, there will not be enough liquidity to get profits.

It is possible to make huge profits through investments using effective and various new strategies. But not everyone can do it.  Early investment is really very profitable and many people use his strategy and because of his luck invest in some projects and make huge profits. If you want something good, you must take risks. Those who are willing to take those risks eventually get a lot better. But if you can't take risk then you can never gain anything good. so those who have the ability can make early investment in the upcoming projects.

Since they are both risky to do as investors, I would prefer to buy after listing because for sure the price will fall even more, and if I see a high market cap and large volume in daily trade,
I will wait for a retracement then I will wait for the right opportunity to buy before pulling back again.

But of course I will not buy if the liquidity of their coins is too low, we should always be in liquidity with large volume so that our investment capital is not wasted.

If the token has good potential, then accumulating before getting listed on exchange is better than buying the token after it gets listed.
There's a lot of perks buying on the presale. The presale has a bonus stage, like you can have 20 to 30% if you bought in the first round of token sale, its different when it gets listed on exchange; you have to rely on the sell price of those who bought it first, usually they are selling a portion of what they bought in the presale for profit.

Really confusing since there are instances that once you buy those tokens at early sale you can get some profits if you sell it when listing happens, there's also some instances that once the token been listed on the market the price of this tokens goes up.

That's why its hard to determine on which one of this option where going to choose since it somehow hard to commit on things especially if we are doubting.

So with these things bothering our mind if we really want to invest with these tokens I guess we should better put the amount we can afford to lose and grab the opportunity to possibly gain if they can afford to risk their money on some tokens out there.

Choosing the best time to buy a token can be confusing because you never know how profitable or how long it'll be profitable before it starts to dump. You can buy on presale and it'll be dead on arrival after it's launch, that is if it gets listed and if it's in a reputable exchange. You can choose to be on the safer side and buy after it gets listed and miss out on the benefits of buying during presale. If it's a coin/token that has potentials, then it's better to buy during presale, but the question mark is how to know a project that has potentials. If you as an investor knows how to diligently DYOR then presale will be a better option if you're satisfy about it's potentials.

Yeah, asking questions about what kind of return we would have based on whatever is a question that is hard to answer. I mean you could ask any type of it, like "should I buy X coin now?" and put any coin instead of X and we wouldn't know, if we did then we would have been rich. That is why we shouldn't really be considering anything similar to this, we should be considering how to get better results on the long run. Forget about asking what kind of move you should make, because anything could work, that's just how it is.

You could buy early and make a profit, you could buy in early and make a loss, you could buy after listing and make a profit, you could buy after listing and make a loss, all of them are all possible, so we don't know, it depends on the project.

by conducting analysis first, that is what needs to be considered, although the initial investment can be profitable, sometimes it is also detrimental by entering it, of course they have considered all of that from the start, because of the benefits and risks that will be faced, of course by thinking about an effective strategy, maybe that can be a way out to get profit.

The higher your risk, the higher your profit.

Investing on token before it gets listed in an exchange is better and gives more profit than buying as at listing because when the coin gets listed, its price movement will be monitored and it will surely follow Bitcoin price movement trend to pump, while if it is not listed, it means it is not well recognized and the team can pimp the project well to attract investors before it get listed.

It is safer to invest a coin that is listed in centralized exchanges, but the profit will be smaller unless you hold for long.

Knowledge is very important before throwing your money not unless that you are just okay in sending or putting your money and just hoping for luck to come up and back you up and bring decent profits, with those so many assets that showing from time to time it's very important to take time researching what potential the asset will have to offer there's should be something that may gain interest from other investors that may spark the value of the project, it's your own will that will manifest after doing your research and comes up with conclusions that you are willing to take the risk.

There's only two possible outcome on whether you will really be able to make huge profits or will really be able to lose that investment amount on which we know that not all projects do ends up on getting listed
and if it does then it goes lower into its initial or ICO value and leaving its presale investors on huge negatives. If it turned out that it did make out some good community support and some whales is starting to
deal on with on the time that it gets listed then it will really be something that brings up that huge profit on your part and thats really the beauty on investing early on which you do able to get the cheapest price as possible. There are even those people who do really wait up for some price decrease or correction before they will really be able to make up some purchase.

This is why investing on crypto is never been that easy yet in every decision you would be making will really be that needing up that kind of risks taking and its not something that will really be giving out guarantees
when it comes to success or profitability. It all matters with your research and knowledge on investing on a particular project which does have potential or not. Also, having a mix of bit of luck
will really be something relevant when dealing up with crypto investment because even with those projects that doesnt have utility do make out some pumps on which leaving out some questions
in mind on how the heck this project flew?

Investment in early is very profitable but also huge risky. There are thousands of token listings in the market, from there which token will do well in the market and no one knows that the price will increase many times from their price or other cell prices, so you have to invest with risk early if both the forehead and the prediction do a good job. It is possible to make a big profit from the investment and there are many chances of losing all the investments. So those who are able to accept such losses can invest early

If you know in advance a token or coin that will be listed on a large cex, it is better to buy early because the potential price increase will be much more significant, but information like this is very rare and only a small number of people only know about it before the announcement is made by the media from the exchange or from the project developer, if they say it would be very good, it's just not easy to happen, and the information is tightly closed so that only a small number of people know before the announcement is made, but even so, it will be very difficult and we will not know whether it is according to our predictions or not, speculating and just guessing it will be listed on large markets.

What you're saying still revolves around the issue of faith the early person talked about. The uncertainty in most of these altcoins is significantly enough to not be able to analyze the coin that will pump or dump. As a matter of fact, most altcoins projects end up as dust.

My advice is one should not put in all their money into a pre-listed coin especially when they've not done any thorough research on the reputation of such project and do not have an informed knowledge about the listing price and it's Potential ATH.

Faith? That would not help you make the right pick, like i said, you just have to go with one of the options and hope that you are lucky with your decision, that is altcoins for you. Analysis might help sometimes, but more often that not they are wrong when you want to use it to select an altcoin. A lot of them are pump and dump coins, a lot of them start well, but along the way turn out to be a scam, etc; you just have to gamble and that's that.

The difficulty in determining the right token to buy is what has led many to losses in most cases and after that, also, luck is an important factor because as I mentioned in my earlier comment, no matter how good you are in your analysis of the token market, you may not be able to accurately predict what will happen to most tokens because cryptocurrency market is filled with so many unexpected changes and crisis a d some of this challenges may likely come unexpectedly and at that point, the token holder will not have choice but to play and accept the reality.

If it's token on any EVM chain/Solana/Stellar/Tron/etc — you can buy on chain's respective dexes with token's contract address (provided token is transferable and there is sufficient liquidity).

Sometimes, CEXes announce some old tokens to get them one last push before delisting them; I also consider this a lost opportunity due to knowing fully well that the exchange wants to get a buck and the volume on the X coin or token.
But do many projects allow to buy before listing itself?

Before listing on exchange(s) is right time to buy. If token has reached cex, I consider it a lost opportunity, and would refrain to invest in it.


Tokens that will make to an exchange will give you amount of profits that will cover for the tokens that didn't make it to an exchange.

To be successful in in this hunt — you will require research, experience and luck.

Yes, you can consider all of that from the start, and it is a wise choice to first monitor the coins you want after the pre-market, without rushing, it is a process to assess in order to know for the future, I think it is the right step to buy after there is progress or movement, that is important.

Yes, investing in the token and being one of its early holders, which you bought at low prices, is the decision that will bring you great profits if the tokengets listed on T1 exchanges. However, this of course does not conflict with the risk that you will face if the token is not listed on CEX and ends up being a rug pull.

If you take a look at a large number of these newly created projects in the market, they often promise listings, but no one can really verify their credibility in the end. If you want to invest what you can afford to lose and try your research to ensure the integrity of the project and the token you investing in, you are free to proceed with this, I believe that once coins get listed on CEX, interest in them tends to decrease, and they are often dumped heavily, as investors turn their attention to other coins.

If it was known in the first place then we would be all rich person by now but thats now how reality works on which it will really be that definitely be basing up on different factors because not all project launches
do become that successful and come in mind that not all projects are the same on which there are those who do have that good utility or something beneficial to human kind and there are those projects which are really just that copy cats and dont actually give out relevant use in terms of its use case on which you could be able to make up some comparison in between projects but of course this isnt a solid indication for a project to succeed. Adding up with community support and some hype on which this is also that important because if its really that being backed with a good community then you do expect that whales would really be also be trying to get in and if it happens then we do know that this is something which is really that an advantage. In the question in regarding buying in early or after listing then it will really be that coming up into your own preference
since not all would really be risk takers when it comes on buying in presales specially into those investors who do have that bad experiences towards it because not all presales become successful. So it will really be that some sort of a gamble i should say when trying out to invest on presales but of course it will really be just that still depending since not all will really be having that kind of situation and there are still projects who do able to fly and gets listed. You wont be able to know unless you do try.

It all depends on the analysis and factors in mind.
If a person did all of this and had faith - he would buy the token or a coin.
If not - he would skip it and mourn what was lost due to the factors not playing in his favor.

Since you cannot predict the future and only in hindsight can you know if the decision you took was the correct one or not, i think you basically just have to do one of the two and see what happens. If you buy a token early, it might not list, it might even turn out to be a scam, if you buy a token after listing, you might buy just when the early investors are selling and you end up being a bagholder. These are the risks in investing in altcoins and you must bear them if you decide to buy altcoins.

Even on the older tokens, there are still risks too, though yeah that the quality of risk can also depend on some other factors like you said there. Exchange partners doesn't really matter I think, I mean there are crap coins that are still listed on a big exchange like for example Binance and then few days later they can still dump hard. After a pre-sale, there are investors on it that will dump their cryptos after it gets listed and that is why the price usually dumps but sometimes it can still recover eventually. Another risk of buying earlier is that the project may not get listed anymore. So I think for me, I'd rather buy late/later but more surer.

Yeah, I feel the same way. Doesn't mean that it doesn't have a risk to buy after the listing, but that doesn't mean that buying early would make sense. Do not invest into anything that binance hasn't listed is a good idea, buying the day they get listed is usually decent, because within a week it will peak, but you need to be quick, don't buy on the fourth day of listing, that won't be good, buy within the hour, and you will see it growing more and more.

If any ever reaches double, get out, get out quickly, but even with 50% profit just get out if you can. That way, you do this every time binance lists something, and you are going to probably make money, not all the time because some just straight go down if they distributed too much airdrop.

SLERF just got listed on Binance after spending more than 8 months on Bitget, which offers the community a donation of the SLERF trading fees every week. Other tokens the alt has had awesome foresight for earlier include ACT, PNUT, BAN, and GOAT. All these coins have had good growth potential, promising great profits for their users. So, in my opinion, it'll be good to position yourself on platforms like that with a reputation for early listings.

Both have its risk so you must accept it before you decides to choose one of them. But for me, it is more risky to buy before the listing because there is no guarantee the tokens can increase although we see some tokens can rise after listing at the market. But if you still want to try, you can do that and see how good your lucky with that token.

But if you buy after listing, you have more chances to investigate the token's project so you will know the image of the token and the project. You can check at the market how the token movement and how the community. Maybe you will see something strange after the token so that can be your consideration to buy the token.

There is always a risk in buying new tokens. I think it will depend on our ability to analyze and choose good tokens. We can probably also see it in terms of partnerships with exchanges discussed in the project group.
You must have also seen how there are new tokens that have just been listed on the exchange and are traded, the price immediately falls even below the pre-sale price. that is a loss.
Buying during the pre-sale or before the token is traded on the exchange has the advantage of bonuses that may be given by the project. So they will get a cheaper price. But there is still a risk that the price may not be by our expectations.

As for me, I would hardly advise someone to purchase a token before it is listed because of the serious risks it involves. Honestly, if someone is lucky enough to pick the right project to invest in before it is listed, it can result in huge profits. However, the truth is that it is not easy to find such projects.

I have a friend who likes purchasing tokens before they are listed. From the experience I have gained from his side, it can be bad when someone doesn't have enough money to continue buying different ones. For example, someone may purchase ten tokens before they are listed, but it is possible that only one or two will perform well when lucky.So, for me, purchasing tokens after they are listed carries less risk because you can do proper research before investing. Even then, some investments can still yield reasonable profits.

both the two options are risky but when you consider which is more risky, buying a token before it has been listed is more risky due to a lot of obvious reasons. chances that it might not end up being listed is on the one hand and some of these project dumps immediately they have been listed while some might even take ages before chances of seeing returns shows up.

if you have the means of mining or getting some fraction of a token before it get listed maybe in the form of an airdrop,  that's a good way of taking some risk that's not actually all that risky because you didn't buy the token with your money. anything that involves buying a coin with your money should be something you are sure has an high tendency of doin well in the long run and not something you are rushing into without an assurance that you are investing in a right thing.

Both have no guarantee that you could make money with your option given, but you will get more chance to gain when the token is not listed yet on exchange and bought it on their presale since there's a chance for you to acquire their token at cheapest price or get bonus as early adopter compare if you bought their token when they are been listed already and the price of their token already experience a bad dump.

Although there's a chance that a pump will came when they are listed since we already see several of these tokens made that but to many risky to do this especially that we know there are lots of it are just a pure scam.

As someone inexperienced in pre market trading, I had mixed results with it since I participate in free distribution of those coins before listing. I got lucky with a few projects, but I also missed plenty of chances when I hesitated and ended up buying after the listing when the prices were already pumped, and I must say it’s the most bad feeling you can have when you see the price is continusily pumping while you already sold after listing. Pre market definitely has the potential for big profits since you essentially getting in at a much lower price. But as your friend pointed out, there is also the risk of the token never getting listed or its price crashing right after listing beside the scammy ones.

Buying after the listing feels safer to me, especially when the token is on a top exchange like Binance or Bybit, but the entry point is often much higher. I seen how tokens like PNUT pumped 17x after listing too, and while it sounds great we can’t ignore timing it is tricky, you can get stuck buying at the top during the hype, not knowing when it gonna stop or when it will go higher.

From my perspective, pre market trading works best if you can research the project thoroughly and have confidence in its listing plans. Otherwise, waiting for the listing might be a better option especially if you more risk. It all comes down to observing the potential profits against the risks. For me Im still figuring it out but I will love to hear more strategies if anyone has tips on handling premarket opportunities better.

Your friend made some great points and honestly, both strategies of buying before or after a listing have their pros and cons.

Buying before a listing can definitely offer bigger profit potential, especially if the token gets picked up by a top exchange like Binance, Bitget, or Bybit. For example, tokens like PNUT saw massive gains (17x in this case) after listing. But, as your friend pointed out, it’s a gamble. There’s always the risk that the token doesn’t get listed or doesn’t perform as expected.

On the flip side, buying after a listing is less risky. A top exchange listing often boosts a token’s visibility and trading volume, which can lead to solid gains. However, the upside might be smaller since early buyers have already positioned themselves. That’s my take

Risk involved in investing in new coins are just so high, either you invest in a coin before it’s listed or you invest after it’s listed, the both is risky, but I will say investing in coin before it’s listed has the high risk. There is chances of making huge amount of money, but also their is chances of losing a lots, so even if anyone will be investing in a new project, then they should allow it to be listed first, they should allow it to be stabilized before investing. I won’t really recommend anyone to invest before it’s being listed on exchange.

I think you only see what is happening around the surface of coin listing and came with this conclusions but there is much to it. If you buy a coin before listing, it has its own advantage and also buying after listing has its own advantage as well.

You can buy a coin before listing and enjoy the initial pump to enjoy the profit but just like you say the coin might not end up getting listed, that can happen if the project isn't back by serious team or teams that has connection to list on good exchange and if the team has a good relationship with the exchanges and has what it takes to list on those exchanges, you might not have the chance to get all the coins because the team might not give you everything to sell at once so you don't have to dump it.

Buying before listing has its own advantage but make sure you are buying without vesting that is, your coins does not come with a condition that will lock some of your coins. If you are buying a coin that has been listed, make sure you are buying when the price is low, that's your perfect short to buy and hold. The only difference between this and initial listing is that this one you have to wait and hold until you make a good profit.

I think your friend was right. Buying the token after listing is much safer. It's better than gambling on your profit before token listing. I bring you a chart. I took it from Memefi. It's listed on many big exchanges, but it fell sharply after listing.

The token's profitability depends on various metrics. These metrics are : fairness of the distribution, market cap, circulating supply, total holders, token vesting, and many more.

Any token have different metrics that would affect is profitability.



Meme token like Pnut was growing from the small mcap to the big mcap. It's also having fair distribution, which is not being diluted by entities who hold lots of tokens. that potentially disturb the market.

Anyone who wants to invest must buy it from the market. There's no pre-sale or early investment that could prevent the price to go up.

It depends on the coin/token and the project behind it. Before anyone makes up their mind to invest in a cryptocurrency, they need to do their homework, analyze the project and the team behind it, make sure it has enough followers and people interested in the project, and make sure that the ones showing interest are actual people and aren't fake followers and hype creators. Once you do this, you will come to know whether a project is good or not.

When you do that and conclude that the project is good and has great potential, there is no harm in buying their coin or token before it gets listed because you would know that it is going to get listed for sure. However, if you realize that a project doesn't have that spark in it, never invest before it gets listed, wait for it to get listed, and then if you see it drop significantly, then you can take the risk of investing a small amount only to try your luck.

Investing in a project before it gets listed without being completely sure whether it is a good project or not is like gambling.

Which is better than the way that is your option, of course, buying a coin before the listing on the stock exchange is much better, especially if you get A1 information from the developer who runs the project is much better because you will get important information to be conveyed as advice in and go out.

Just like the principle that we always bring to the conversation in trading at Dex and CEX and even pre -listing at the same time, High Risk High Return A rationale experienced in the case of purchasing token or coins in Dex.

What you told him is true. Buying early means you are trying to achieve the high-risk, high-reward type of investment but this is truly dangerous and it could be a waste of money if done wrong.
Now, there are investors who like to keep it safe so they buy after it is listed just to make sure the coin they are buying can be bought and sold at the same time. It also makes the coin more trustworthy because an exchange won't just list any coin without even checking it.
Your debate with him won't go anywhere because you are two different people with different views about investment. The other is brave enough to take the high risk while the other just wants a smoother sail. There's no need to be too deep about it.

Some altcoins coins just have a one time uptrend movement  immediately it is being listed on the exchange and if you are not fast enough to sell on that first price pump, you might not see such price pump again. Some investors that buys a token at the pre-market price don't make profit because at last the token may not be listed with a good price if compared to the presale price and some times too, the project owners does not add good liquidity to the market, which can easily allow price to dump.

Altcoins normally follows the pump and dump mechanism and if you are lucky, you can make profit either when you buy at the presale market or even if you buy after listing, you will still make profit.

It depends on the potential of a coin; if the coin is good, buying it early, like in a presale, will give you a good profit. A presale offers a bonus percentage in every stage, so if a coin has good potential and community support, strategic accumulation in its presale is better than buying it after the listing.
Some investors prefer buying a coin on their favorite exchange, which is why they prefer to buy it if there is an announcement of listing on their preferred exchange.

You're right. But I believe some cex are known to be quick in listing before it hit others like coin base, kraken, binance. Let's take slerf for example. It was on Bitget since 8months ago and just made it to Bianance. I believe if you wanna have an edge, you need to pay attention to listings from cex like that.

if we're talking about memes or any unlisted coin, when you plan to wait for the centralized exchange listing to feel safe, you sacrificed the opportunity to make massive profit, but on the other hand if you don't wait until CEX listing then you are sacrificing safety for that additional profit, I think that's the conclusion

but here's the thing, you can always do your own analysis and see whether investing into certain coin is safe or not simply by just looking at the coin's data, like the amount of holders, how much centralized the holder stat is and so on.

so basically you can get the benefit of making big profit by buying before listing without sacrificing safety if you know what you're doing.

I thought as much but, the fact you’re only concerned about the profit not the risk you can go ahead. So long as you’re making good profit don’t back down, going for new project all the time seems too scary due to lose personally I’m only after the profit with less risk so I don’t think I will purchase any token without being listed. Reputable exchange still list dump token meaning you should never trust a token just because a good exchange listed the token or else you’ll face lose.

You can't tell and all you need is just luck to be on your side to be able to pick the right coin to invest in while some will say that investing in coins before they are listed is the best approach to buying altcoins since many of them that have been listed were dumped immediately without recovery, so the risk of buying coins that are listed already on exchange is a bad idea for such an investor.

Some others already have bad experiences with that pre-listed coin they invested in because with all the promises of making it to the exchange, many of them never did at all, or even if they make it to the exchange, they will choose to go for the quack exchange with the manipulated market which end up being time wasting.

This is no longer a thing today, this was pre-ICO time although some projects are doing it once again because they've seen it effective but they don't call it anymore preICO.

You have a lot of space but you can't be sure if it will pump after it gets listed. Because at most scenarios, the dump is following it then.

While that it is true but it cannot be the same for most scenarios. Remember that the devs have got early distribution too either with other private early investors and as well as their allocation to these exchanges, so who knows who gets to dump it first and takes the money.

I read about the story of how one guy made a lot of money employing strategic acumulation. This method can only be done while the token is not yet listed, and for you to make profit from that, you need to have an insight on how good the project is and how the community responds to the project. So there are projects worth investing in early and after listing, so there is no one method; its actually on the potential of the coin/token.

It's a golden rule;

Higher Risk = High rewards. Lower Risk = Lower rewards

Those who risk buying shitcoins before they get listed have a higher chance of losing money to the many scams around but should one of the coins get listed, they can easily get a higher reward as compared to those that buy after it has been listed in an exchange.

Both ways are risky, a token can be listed and wouldn't have any growth possibility, for years, which causes loss. Similarly, some tokens are being sold amongst community members even before it's listed. Whether a buyer makes profits from a non listed or listed token also relies on the person's preparations of selling them.

I won't advice a fresh bitcoiner to purchase a token close to listing. Because they wouldn't know that right step to take when some projects begin to portray signals of poor performance in the market.

I had a debate with a friend about which is better, purchasing a token new token before its listing on an exchange or the moment it gets listed.

I feel like purchasing a token before the listing gives much more space for profit, but he mentioned that there's also a huge risk of not knowing whether it will end up getting listed and that was a fair point. He also raised the point that buying tokens after their listing was safer, but even if it's true that it holds less profit potential than the former, it also has huge potential if it gets listed on a top exchange.

He mentioned a couple of tokens that got listed on certain exchanges, mostly the top exchanges like Binance, Bybit and Bitget and those tokens experienced pumps experienced massive pumps. The one I remembered was PNUT he said it was up 17x. He made good points but I'd rather table it here, what do you guys think?