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Thanks for he tip mate ,great that I come to cross this board and saw this post since I am planning to purchase a second hand Laptop because my old one is acting weird these days

But having this thread I think I will just loan to purchase new one than used,it’s better safe than never because I always install all my details in my lappy even passwords and private keys

it always great to buy new laptop rather then used for sure mate Smiley

but if we talk about security it dosent matter...

we need to create here main post which explain how to secure pc to top level
Yeah I understand mate but atleast we know how expensive new laptop that’s why some are considering buying second hand specially if you are not capable of having new

And even there are security advices here still the risk of being planted is there so the better way to prevent being a victim is to have new.and thanks for that buddy yes I will be having new and may cost some of my altcoins or need to have a loan lol 😂
You just have the wrong choice, raspberry pi is capable enough to store most of your crypto but it is still vulnerable to damage, making a cold storage out of flash drive also a good idea and there is also intel nuc. installing crypto wallet or such to a computer doesn't require that much energy so most of the computers will do even the lower end.
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Thanks for he tip mate ,great that I come to cross this board and saw this post since I am planning to purchase a second hand Laptop because my old one is acting weird these days

But having this thread I think I will just loan to purchase new one than used,it’s better safe than never because I always install all my details in my lappy even passwords and private keys

it always great to buy new laptop rather then used for sure mate Smiley

but if we talk about security it dosent matter...

we need to create here main post which explain how to secure pc to top level
Yeah I understand mate but atleast we know how expensive new laptop that’s why some are considering buying second hand specially if you are not capable of having new

And even there are security advices here still the risk of being planted is there so the better way to prevent being a victim is to have new.and thanks for that buddy yes I will be having new and may cost some of my altcoins or need to have a loan lol 😂
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Thanks for he tip mate ,great that I come to cross this board and saw this post since I am planning to purchase a second hand Laptop because my old one is acting weird these days

But having this thread I think I will just loan to purchase new one than used,it’s better safe than never because I always install all my details in my lappy even passwords and private keys

it always great to buy new laptop rather then used for sure mate Smiley

but if we talk about security it dosent matter...

we need to create here main post which explain how to secure pc to top level
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
Thanks for he tip mate ,great that I come to cross this board and saw this post since I am planning to purchase a second hand Laptop because my old one is acting weird these days

But having this thread I think I will just loan to purchase new one than used,it’s better safe than never because I always install all my details in my lappy even passwords and private keys
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I know many people store their crypto in their hardware wallets.  Some store it on their computers.  Some have a computer solely for crypto to be safe.



First off, is buying anything that used for the computer unsafe if you plan to store crypto in it?  Example buying a used laptop but then doing a complete factory reset and wiping everything?  Or could a hacker still put a virus/keylog in it?



Now what about other things?  Like imagine buying a used wireless mouse or keyboard.  What about a wired mouse or keyboard?  Or maybe even a used modem or wireless router?  Is it possibly to get a virus/hack keylogged if buying anything like this used?  I thought modem/router possible because well its connecting to the internet?  Obviously something like a used monitor cannot cause anything like this right?  What about a used usb cable connecting your modem to your computer?  A used flash drive definitely for sure?  But you should never have an issue if its a new one right?



With a wired mouse or keyboard, could someone just install something inside it or something and you get keylogged etc?  What if say you left your keyboard with someone and say that person is a hacker and then install something into it.  Then when you plug it into your computer, could you get hacked?



What about a modem or router?  Could someone install something inside it where when you connect to the internet, they see everything you type etc?  Like i know hackers put out fake wifi so if say a starbucks or hotel is there, you connect to it thinking its that wifi but its actually a hacker putting the name to trick you etc.  Then you connect to it and they see all your credit card info.



Obviously you should buy things new.  But if its a modem or router or computer, if you do a factory reset, does that 100 percent wipe everything clean?  I heard of cases where people would install trojans in other people laptops without them knowing.  The person then later access their laptop or notice things got hack etc.


Thoughts on all this?  Now let just say its not for crypto but just regular email and banking and everything else.  Is buying any of these things used foolish?  Or imagine just borrowing a wireless mouse or modem from someone such as a friend or acquaintance... but their intention was they know you had crypto and put a virus on the modem or mouse.  Thoughts on this?



So could you get hacked/keylogged on


1.  Wireless Mouse or Keyboard
2.  Wired Mouse or Keyboard
3.  Modem or Router
4.  Monitor
5.  USB Flash Drive
6.  Ram




From this list, i know USB Flash Drive is 100 percent because you can store files there.  Thus if a hacker has your laptop, they could just plug the flash drive in and put a virus/keylog and then leave your computer as is and then you access it and you have no clue right?


I assume the only one in this list which is impossible would be a monitor right?


But what about a used modem or router or mouse or keyboard?  I assume wireless increases chances a lot than wired right?



bullshit know to lock your computer in the right way and no body can get to what you hide,
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Im curious about a few other products.



1.  Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS)


2.  Powerbank ... imagine the ones where you buy where you can charge your laptop or tablet or phone. 




Can these contain malware or not?  For example whether its a used one or say a 3rd party sells it and they put it in? 
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it's better to buy a new notebook
and use the notebook only for crypto
its a nice suggestion to avoid any hassel of reformating and possible infection of malware and viruses that might potentially stole your crypto and besides new lappy or pc is now affordable these days . the advantage of buying brand new from used is that you can get a longer waranty time and you can assure that the product will work to perfection like tou expected .

no need to install any software except antivirus
don't even use the notebook for social media
New lappy and pc's do already come with built in antiviruses so theres no need to install a new one but why restrict yourself from using it on other use or on other sites ?  You already have an antivirus , so no need to worry  .
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It should be pretty safe if you do full install of windows on verified windows package from Microsoft, there's no malicious software available if you wipe out the HDD before hand.  The rest should be pretty safe once you got your web presence clean and safe, means only trustworthy websites. Network sniffing is definitely possible but the effort doing so weight too much for a widespread of people, unless your crypto footprint is targetable in the first place.
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it's better to buy a new notebook
and use the notebook only for crypto
no need to install any software except antivirus
don't even use the notebook for social media
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after reading, my circle of understanding of cryptocurrency security has become very unreliable, of course in the mouse and keyboard, I do not think that there will be a virus, but in the router and supported laptop, I thought about it and take note.
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I don't see any harm if I buy a used computer equipment that will be used specifically for Crypto Currency, however, just to be safe, I would buy a brand new hard drive and upgrade the memory the rest will be the same. I am not comfortable using or re-using someone else hard drive, even if they say everything has been deleted, we don't know if there's something hidden there. I would check the software installed, un-isntall and re-install.
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even if i buy something new, i'd completely wipe out all that is stored and installed in a laptop and do a fresh linux system on it.
i doubt there is someone out there that will put something on the firmware just to hack a machine. hacking shouldn't be that hard for them to really go into the hardware when they can do it with wifi. you'd worry more if you install lots of app related to cryptocurrency because its where they are not trying to gain access.

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I don't think there is a problem with using a second hand phone for crypto. I believe so far as you format the computer before using it, everything becomes new. The only problem is with when you use a network that is also shared with other people.
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No need to worry because with used devices, you need to replace storage devices and everything will be safe. Are you worried about using a used computer? Don't worry about restoring the operating system settings, and you will remove all the storage on your computer. If possible, replace your computer's storage device to make it safer.
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I think you shouldn't have any problems with any of these if you were able to reformat that old computer. And I think even though it is going on the same router, hacking on you will still become difficult. But if you want to make sure, there are still available brand new laptops out there where you can use for cryptocurrency related things and you can also invest in hardware wallets.
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OP, you know the answer to this yourself, you seem like a smart guy. If you have even the slightest doubt about a device being clean of malware then don’t store crypto on it. It simply is not worth the risk.

I think it's the best, or don't use internet access on that device because hackers won't be able to enter without internet access.
And I think the OP is too protective, even he worries about the mouse, keyboard, ram, monitor etc. I think it's better to buy new flash drives, hdd, mouse or keyboard, because this device can be infiltrated by malware but I don't think the seller will be like that. Monitor, RAM, processor, modem in my opinion is not necessary.
Or reset again after buying this used equipment.
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You can purchase brand new or factory refurbished computer equipment from new egg using cryptocurrency. The last time I checked near christmas time.
The only thing I would be concerned about is purchasing things which have files and programs on them and storing anything of value like a hardware wallet for your cryptocurrency.
There was a story on one of these news shows and they conducted a study which they went on ebay and got 10 usb sticks all of them had been deleted by the original owners. But they hired one of those data recovery companies to see if they could get files from them after doing their processing the data so to be viewable.
They uncovered 8 out of the 10 had some sort of personal photos and videos. One even had hundreds of pics containing kiddie porn on it and they traced that guy who sold it on ebay and arrested him.
One of the usb sticks had a document of a person which contained all his financial records and scans of his passport and drivers license. The news show printed the 800 page document and tracked the ebay seller down and showed him what they uncovered on this sold usb device. He said this could of ruined his life if it ended up in the wrong hands. Embarrassed
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I know many people store their crypto in their hardware wallets.  Some store it on their computers.  Some have a computer solely for crypto to be safe.



First off, is buying anything that used for the computer unsafe

I believe that someone who’s disposing he’s gadget has to not intentionally get a victim from the said computer equipments.but you maybe right for some reason though it’s a once I a million chances that you may choose those items that has keylog

So the bottom line is always become a security people,before buying make sure that on those legit sellers only,and if you can do buy from people that near your place

hardware can be reset and cleaned rather easily to prevent any kind of malware remaining on it. for example if you buy a second hard SSD storage device you can simply format the hell out of it before using it.
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I know many people store their crypto in their hardware wallets.  Some store it on their computers.  Some have a computer solely for crypto to be safe.



First off, is buying anything that used for the computer unsafe

I believe that someone who’s disposing he’s gadget has to not intentionally get a victim from the said computer equipments.but you maybe right for some reason though it’s a once I a million chances that you may choose those items that has keylog

So the bottom line is always become a security people,before buying make sure that on those legit sellers only,and if you can do buy from people that near your place
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