I am having soo much fun reading this thread again!
250 , 500 , did we hit the bottom yet?
Topic: Call the Bottom Here ! (Read 4565 times)
Daily SMA200 sitting right under previous ATH (just under $250). Seems like a nice bottom.
I'm sort of trolling now.....
I'm sort of trolling now.....
We heard you already, kuroth. Stop the inane bragging.
Who's Kuroth?
Someone spamming the forum, his posts have been removed now.
We heard you already, kuroth. Stop the inane bragging.
Who's Kuroth?
A) new money coming in next week.
It will take for a while for new money to come in right now. The shock for a 50% flash crash was huge. Right now for outsiders bitcoin equals volatility.
Actually there has been a huge buying spree past 3 days which helped it from free fall, about 250Million USD worth
What do you mean? Before the China news?
Really hard to tell if the bottom is in yet.
Not really sure what this means or if this is indicative of other exchanges but -> https://www.cavirtex.com/news
Lots of new players, and the legislation in Canada has been somewhat favorable so far. I'm still waiting to see definitive tax laws regarding how mining income will be regarded. If I have receipts for $20,000 worth of mining equipment, can I write that off against taking withdrawls out of cavirtex?
I have a few bids left, I personally hope this isn't over yet.
Not really sure what this means or if this is indicative of other exchanges but -> https://www.cavirtex.com/news
Lots of new players, and the legislation in Canada has been somewhat favorable so far. I'm still waiting to see definitive tax laws regarding how mining income will be regarded. If I have receipts for $20,000 worth of mining equipment, can I write that off against taking withdrawls out of cavirtex?
I have a few bids left, I personally hope this isn't over yet.
A) new money coming in next week.
It will take for a while for new money to come in right now. The shock for a 50% flash crash was huge. Right now for outsiders bitcoin equals volatility.
Actually there has been a huge buying spree past 3 days which helped it from free fall, about 250Million USD worth
A) new money coming in next week.
It will take for a while for new money to come in right now. The shock for a 50% flash crash was huge. Right now for outsiders bitcoin equals volatility.
If my calculations are correct, we're going to see some serious shit.
Testing the upper resistance of 700-750, unless some good news comes out soon I expect we'll be bouncing off and then we could see levels at $400 or below by Monday.
Testing the upper resistance of 700-750, unless some good news comes out soon I expect we'll be bouncing off and then we could see levels at $400 or below by Monday.
Perhaps.
Or perhaps not nearly as much money left the market for good as you assume. And if that's the case, there are 2 reasons that channel might not sustain. A) new money coming in next week. B) money sitting on the sidelines waiting for lower prices. Over 100 million of it across the exchanges in fact.
We heard you already, kuroth. Stop the inane bragging.
He's not bragging, he's advertising. Just click Ignore.
It must go up before it can crash down any further.
True or False?
True or False?
If my calculations are correct, we're going to see some serious shit.
Testing the upper resistance of 700-750, unless some good news comes out soon I expect we'll be bouncing off and then we could see levels at $400 or below by Monday.
Testing the upper resistance of 700-750, unless some good news comes out soon I expect we'll be bouncing off and then we could see levels at $400 or below by Monday.
I would think that bottom has already been reached. For the price to reach 400 someone have to dump 40 000 BTC (on gox alone), To reach 500: 25000 BTC (all assuming no new buy orders). That imho is not going to happen.
750 is the new bottom 
Bottom? 576
Infinitely wrong, the crash in April was due to a blockchain fork and Mt Gox's 8 hours of lag and inability to login which put out limitless fear. Without something major like another fork, or the us military saying they are going to unleash marshal law on bitcoin supporters... 50% retrace is what you get. Sorry the bottom for you is in Oct, your now in the company of those that are waiting for the bottom from January and added to those that are waiting from the bottom last summer.
young grasshopper, with wisdom you will learn that in markets, there are no reasons and causes, there is only prices and volume. remember what Neo said, "there is no reason".
Infinitely wrong, the crash in April was due to a blockchain fork and Mt Gox's 8 hours of lag and inability to login which put out limitless fear. Without something major like another fork, or the us military saying they are going to unleash marshal law on bitcoin supporters... 50% retrace is what you get. Sorry the bottom for you is in Oct, your now in the company of those that are waiting for the bottom from January and added to those that are waiting from the bottom last summer.
young grasshopper, with wisdom you will learn that in markets, there are no reasons and causes, there is only prices and volume. remember what Neo said, "there is no reason".
I don't think there is a more safe bet for a false prediction than to look previous crashes and try to apply them today without having a clue about what caused each crash.
Bottom will be 100 usd. And then, go for 10k 
I think you're underestimating it.
Bottom will be 0.01 usd. And then, go for 10M
look at march april. it tok about 3 weeks for the bull move to the top starting in march, the same amount of time approx starting in november.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
Remember also that we're in the middle of a weekend now, sometimes a bit of a downer for bitcoin. But $700 is being tested and holding so far, suggesting strong support.
Bottom will be 100 usd. And then, go for 10k
Infinitely wrong, the crash in April was due to a blockchain fork and Mt Gox's 8 hours of lag and inability to login which put out limitless fear. Without something major like another fork, or the us military saying they are going to unleash marshal law on bitcoin supporters... 50% retrace is what you get. Sorry the bottom for you is in Oct, your now in the company of those that are waiting for the bottom from January and added to those that are waiting from the bottom last summer.
look at march april. it tok about 3 weeks for the bull move to the top starting in march, the same amount of time approx starting in november.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
This bubble is totally different. Many things have changed since April. If you look at the April bubble there was one top - here we have two. In my humble opinion this changes the dynamic of the fall. I would say that the upward trend changed more than 3 days ago, which throws your calculation out significantly I believe.
look at march april. it tok about 3 weeks for the bull move to the top starting in march, the same amount of time approx starting in november.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
thanks for the info Hakka, i was just thinking earlier to study the timeframes of last time's bullrun.
look at march april. it tok about 3 weeks for the bull move to the top starting in march, the same amount of time approx starting in november.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
in april the crash took 7 days of consecutive red bars. we are in day 3 at the mo, so about halfway. i predicts we hit bottom next wednesday and the bottom will be 224.
For me the real bottom is the price before the china hype and especially before the baidu hype. People that bought big then will sell sooner or later.
Better question: When are you guys going to buy in again?
When it falls again which will be in the next 24 hours and somewhere near the bottom.
Also, to add, it's not going to be $1000 anytime soon. Confidence is low, fear is up. We're in a downward trend! Those that think we're going to hit $1000 are in denial or simply having a laugh.
Care to place a bet on this?
We have already seen the bottom we are now bouncing off of resistance
Honestly, I think we'll see it get to as low as $500 USD sheerly because of the psychological factor of a nice number (just as we started hitting walls at around ~$100 and ~$1000). As to how long it stays there, and whether it returns to peak levels that is really anyone's guess.
Based on history (!!!) the next cycle will occur sometime in the next 6-18 months (probably closer to 6 than 18) with a rise to 5-10 k and a subsequent fallback to 2.5 to 3k.
damn it, this is the worst part i hate waiting for these cycles
Better question: When are you guys going to buy in again?
When it falls again which will be in the next 24 hours and somewhere near the bottom.
Also, to add, it's not going to be $1000 anytime soon. Confidence is low, fear is up. We're in a downward trend! Those that think we're going to hit $1000 are in denial or simply having a laugh.
Better question: When are you guys going to buy in again?
It took less coins to cause this panic than the drop from 900-450 with a slightly better drop. Said person has been continuously dropping a nice round hundred every 10 minutes trying to keep the bars of blood coming, but I think we already found a rough bottom with a sparkly top waiting to be breached again.. sideways for now and a slight manip. dip in the short term while the market decides if they are going to get the ledgendary 100$ coin.
We heard you already, kuroth. Stop the inane bragging.
In my opinion people are playing toss the dead cat right now 
1,242 / 266 * 50 ~= 233. Based on the current look of the market, between 200$ and 300$, and it will take several days to reach it.
Of course, if the market will look a lot different tomorrow, this estimate won't hold. It's simply too early to call the bottom.
Of course, if the market will look a lot different tomorrow, this estimate won't hold. It's simply too early to call the bottom.
I think the bottom will be between 10 - 10000 dollars this year.
Bottom is in now. It will rise now and new people will get confidence and buy more coins making it shoot to 10k before january 1st ( last bit is wishful thinking ;-) )
Honestly, I think we'll see it get to as low as $500 USD sheerly because of the psychological factor of a nice number (just as we started hitting walls at around ~$100 and ~$1000). As to how long it stays there, and whether it returns to peak levels that is really anyone's guess.
Based on history (!!!) the next cycle will occur sometime in the next 6-18 months (probably closer to 6 than 18) with a rise to 5-10 k and a subsequent fallback to 2.5 to 3k.
Honestly, I think we'll see it get to as low as $500 USD sheerly because of the psychological factor of a nice number (just as we started hitting walls at around ~$100 and ~$1000). As to how long it stays there, and whether it returns to peak levels that is really anyone's guess.
These are my thoughts, call the bottom here !
Bottom! here!!That was both clever and possibly accurate.
On each of the previous three boom bust cycles the low has always been between 2 and 2.5 times the previous peak. This gives a low this time around of 540 to 670 (2 - 2.5 x 270) which is pretty much exactly what we are seeing. Anything below 500 is unlikely and would be an excellent buy.
my shot in the dark = $450
I think we will find the bottom within 2 days and recover/stabilise
I think we will find the bottom within 2 days and recover/stabilise
I'm getting the feeling is that 576 USD is about as low it would go... at least for mtgox. It could hit 1000 by the end of the year again too (but I rather see it stabilize somewhere in the region of 600-800 than oscillate).
This. I get the feeling the bottom is in.
Too early imo, still most of Saturday and whole Sunday in front of us.
We'll go below 600 again imo, don't have idea how far below.
These are my thoughts, call the bottom here !
Bottom! here!! 
I'm getting the feeling is that 576 USD is about as low it would go... at least for mtgox. It could hit 1000 by the end of the year again too (but I rather see it stabilize somewhere in the region of 600-800 than oscillate).
This. I get the feeling the bottom is in.
$-25
They're gonna have to start paying us to buy these things.
They're gonna have to start paying us to buy these things.
I'm getting the feeling is that 576 USD is about as low it would go... at least for mtgox. It could hit 1000 by the end of the year again too (but I rather see it stabilize somewhere in the region of 600-800 than oscillate).
-13 + 2i
wtf lol. we're seeing predictions in imaginary numbers now
Looks like we may have already put in the bottom. Up from here?
IMHO $450
My prediction, the new bottom will be around $300 with in the week. if not by the end of the weekend.
NOTE: Do not us this as investing advise this is only my prediction.
NOTE: Do not us this as investing advise this is only my prediction.
$300
-13 + 2i
420
-80% from the high (1240) which is around 240-260
same as april's crash... 80% then.
same as april's crash... 80% then.
200$
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$450-$495
seems too high if you ask me: we just touched 576 coming from ~1100 only 24hs ago
it might seem too high with the current doom and gloom environment, but there is just too much money invested it Bitcoin compared to previous bubbles. Also keep in mind alot of ppl are looking to rebuy in rather than cash out USD, ppl appreciate Bitcoin's value alot more compared to before.
I would personally love to see lower to buy in cheaper, but it seems unlikely.
$525
$600 -> Also diff retarget in 3 days....
$192
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$450-$495
seems too high if you ask me: we just touched 576 coming from ~1100 only 24hs ago
If this follows the same slide as the March bubble pop it will go down to around $300 before going back up to around $400.
275$
Depends whether panic spreads even more.
Depends whether panic spreads even more.
$250 sounds practical since US guys are yet to cash out
We already hit the bottom if we hold at 650+ for a little longer i think.
I really don't know... It could be 400-500$, but we need to wait USA wakes up after this bad night. if they drunk too much this night, the things could be really unprediclables
My estimation for the lowest bottom in this bubble is $450-$495, it will be very difficult to break this. This floor was already tested 3 weeks ago a COUPLE of times but failed.
If it indeed breaks this, in that case we are looking at a massive "panic" sell which means alot of holders who bought at $1000 will give up on Bitcoin for now. It will dive lower but it's pretty much impossible for it to break $250 which is April's all time high (below that this means early holders also dumped most of their stash and bitcoin is doomed for the near future)
These are my thoughts, call the bottom here !
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