Topic: Campaign Ettiquette(Signature, twitter, facebook, or any other type) (Read 4721 times)

Services discussion would be appropriate yet majority of people who do seek for campaigns will most likely able to read this rather than if it would be moved on beginners section.

I do rather see that lots of people read up everything if its placed on Services even though this doesnt connect or not relevant to the board but it is worth to be place on there.

This post will always be relevant even how many years to come. People had been mainly engaging and being too serious with signature campaign.Im not washing off some hands here
but the things that had been mentioned by yahoo are indeed the true things that do happen.

Its a good guideline and to follow up which might really result on being a good member of this forum not only for the sake of signature campaign but as a whole.

I'm pretty much agree if this thread should be on beginners & help section (or on service section, below signature campiagn guidelines posted by hilariousandco). As we can see there are lot of people who just moving from campaign A to campaign B just because the pay rates is higher on campaign B.

The information is as relevant as 4 years ago and it looks like the topic has low on readup in recent months, I expect a form of pinning the topic to the service discussion thread, I feel is very much in the right place where users seek bounties. Maybe a thread like this should be newer bounty managers on improving service and reduce scam bounties or rather make better payment methods.

bump (If yahoo62278 doesn't mind)  

What are your thoughts on moving this topic to the Beginners & Help section?
I think newbies do not visit the "Service Discussion" section, respectively, overlook this information.

Made some edits in the OP, also feel like it's way past time for people to be reading this thread again. Been so busy lately I haven't had time to revisit this topic.

This signature campaign write up should be made rule on the general rule for signature campaign in this forum, as it deal clearly well and serves as an enlightenment and educative to all the bounty hunters in this forum. And again any newbies member just coming into bitcoin talk that will read and understand this rules will be successful in the forum. More insight to sir Yahoo

I agree that everyone should have a read of this if they plan on joining any sort of campaigns.

Thanks for this great and motivating think. It influenced me, so I think everyone should periodically review this thread! 

p.s. let's make this forum better.

actually the opinion about the 3rd world of accounts to make money monthly is not completely correct, because of the 3rd world countries now have many emerging highly developed economies, for example india, indonesia and other countries, because in the future the economy will spin in developing countries has abundant natural resources and human resources and in the future the owners of developing country accounts can become economic actors who use cryptocurrency.

I am beginning now very good that topic explains a lot of thing congratulations

I think this NEEDS to be posted on all bounty threads to remind people of the proper etiquette.


THIS ^^

I see so many bullshit posts with no substance just to get post numbers to appropriate levels.


THIS ^^ Again. It is ultimately up to the CM if you are accepeted.

List of SMS bans, I was not aware that this existed. Thank you for compiling this.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/campaign-ettiquettesignature-twitter-facebook-or-any-other-type-1692740

This has valuable information for all CMs
And I appreciate this post.

Thank you for sharing the valuable information. Yes we must take some time to share such things which are really important for the forum quality and it should reward all the services included in here. I have always believed that signature campaigns are very important in developing the forum and the participant itself.

If different companies are publishing themselves here and putting their efforts and money into our pockets then we must put our personal efforts to make sure they get the publicity that they really deserve.

I’m thankful to this post because it will help everyone from the juniors to legends even though we have achieved all the knowledge about how things work. It’s really important to revise ourselves, so that keep the same motivation and improve our quality services through posting, offerings and gathering the information.

Let’s hope we follow this.

Hi yahoo, I just noticed that the link for smas needs to be fixed.

It shows this picture below.


You can instruct me to remove this image if it looks annoying.

Post has been updated and smas list added with a short description

Since you're stating all the possible cases in signature campaigns, you should also add What happens if a user is put on SMAS blacklist and that fact that most managers have their personal ban list etc.... And yes with a thread link if possible.

Lastly, This is an excellent thread that should be read by every people who are in a campaign or planning to join one so adding a hyperlink of this in your campaign threads will be great.

If you feel like something needs to be added to this, feel free to put your suggestion here or pm me and if I think your suggestion is helpful i'll add it

Let me add this helpful thread to my compilation of services thread in the services section. This will serve as a guide to me and other campaign applicants to do what is right. Anyways, thank you for this useful thread.

Indeed there are so many people from my country just come and buy an account, then use it to farm bitcoin, and sometimes they enroll to the same signature campaign. I know that people would do something for money, but this is a bad way and i must say, it is cheating.
And it is a disgrace to the humanity, even though in the forum already stated that using a multiple account is prohibited, they are still doing it.
And for all the signature campaign manager here, well it is out of topic but, i really wanted to say, please trust and hire me in your campaign if you have another one in the future, will work hard for you and try my best. I am currently not on any signature campaign, and my latest (only one because im new to BCT) campaign was diviproject campaign held by mr. strawbabies, nice campaign i would say, but it is ended already.

This explain me a lot when talking 'bout signature campaigns and i feel like it deserves a BUMP!

Thank you for sharing, I've learn a lot from here, and I will apply all of this so I can also find a right campaign for me in the near future, looking forward for it! Thanks! 

That won't work. Campaign rules tend to change over time (e.g. payout rates, sections being counted), especially if the owner has desirable changes in mind. While such changes probably should not be done in the middle of the week, you can't force managers to not do so via some 'rule'.

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Your case is quite specific, but I don't want to comment on it further. My response was directed towards campaigns in general in accordance to your suggested 'rule'.

I would like to add a rule that applies to managers:
Write the rules clearly when starting a campaign and stick to them until the campaign ends, do not change the rules during the campaign period!
I can illustrate the need for this rule with a personal experience:
I joined the Flash/Megaflash signature campaign, and it was stated in the rules that participants can receive a flash bonus.
Near the end of the week, the manager announced "if you do not create a flash wallet, you don't get any BTC".
I tried to create a wallet on the website,...and was blocked, the website somehow got the idea that I live in New York (probably all IP addresses that may possibly belong to New York residents, were blocked, including mine), I tried tor, but it was also blocked.
Eventually, I quit the campaign in disgust without getting paid a satoshi.
Incidentally, I did not "post in the campaign thread you're leaving, or send the manager a message out of respect" because of lack thereof (I have no respect for that scammer).

Read and understood. Thanks Yahoo! If you add something more, I'll be sure to read it out, this is really a great set of general etiquette rules. I'd recommend this to all before joining any sig campaign.

This thread is incomplete. Theres still room to add more. I just hope that some of you guys actually pay attention to it

One sticky thread about signature campaigns in services section is enough I think,hilariousandco should unlock this one let Yahoo post it as a comment and then lock it again.

Me also highly recommended to sticky this topic in Service Discussion board or in Service board too.

It may help to notify member here in Bitcointalk.org .

This should be sticky but where exactly? I see under Project Development that says for bounties and advertising but most of the signature campaigns are posted on services.

I'd agree with most of it, but if this forum job is to be similar to a real life job, actions like switching campaigns and abandoning signatures are to be expected. Don't expect loyalty from a group of anonymous forum users who need to spend less than a minute to apply for a campaign. It's obvious many of them will switch to a better paid one at some point and they will do it fast to reserve a spot. Who should they be loyal to? You (the campaign managers)? They don't know you, you are not their friends. Or maybe to the business? The business most of them never used before joining the campaign?

This is the most detailed description of the highlights of the participation in the majority of the bounty that can be found. Your article has no analogues not only in this forum, but also on the network at all. It will be useful to all without regard to rank. Very grateful.

This has recently become a little discussion in one of my campaigns: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16882152
Yahoo and I got a similar stance to this topic, quick quote of his post:

Good job, yahoo! I think this thread have to be sticked to be visible and maybe link to it have to be added in campaigns overview thread.
I also want to ask question for campaign mannagers. What do you think about people who are saying: "I will change signature if you accept me" Do you accepting such members? They are not sure that they will be accepted and they don't want to be removed from their campaign if they change signature.

finally found this.. i just start bitcoin thing..dont know what to start.
very helpfull thanks man!

It's hard to disagree with these arguments.
However, in my opinion, the manager must also have patience to the employees.
Respect and form of communication make that someone is professional or not.
Sorry to say, especially that this statement is about "ettiqette", but in this post I see some gaps.

You have explained clearly how to join a signature campaign and the rules behind it when a user wants to join one. People need to understand that is a good opportunity to make some bitcoins on the side and if you follow the rules on the one you are on, you will receive the payment every week

This post should be referenced like an official guide.

I already see the critics flying in "you're being one-sided, this is only what managers expect" or "of course you think like that, you are a manager yourself", blablabla, the usual stuff.
Having read through it, I agree with most, if not all, of the points being brought up. Thanks for taking the time and collecting all of them in a single post.
Seeing as Lauda and I both think in a similar way, this could also be considered #SMAS-approved.
(We wanted to do something roughly like this in the old smas, IIRC.)

This is the common thing that happens most of the time in my  opinion. It almost happen to me as well, well as showing of respect i really do agree that we should tell the manager that we will be leaving the campaign. Yet most of us do quit even if the round does not end yet(not to mention when some big company throw a campaign service last few weeks)

Well I read the whole thing. I didn't find a single part I didn't agree with. I'll be the second vote to say "needs to be stickied!"

If you post here and you happen to make some spare change to post then that's normal. If you're feeding your family from signature campaigns that's going to be an issue when you need more money but don't have anything else (constructive) to say.

Also people should note that this is literally the easiest money in the world. I like talking on this forum. So do hundreds of thousands of other people. So if the other 99,999 people that want to earn 0.001BTC/post have better written English than you, you'll be overlooked. It's really that simple.

can be stickied,IMHO
yahoo pretty much covered all the bases on how to join a campaign,what to do and what not to do while in
it IS a privilege,not a right-managers will always look for the most qualified members to enroll,so nothing personal if you get rejected
it IS a job,treat it as you would treat your employment elsewhere- be on time,be polite,do what you were hired for , smile
try not to blame others,it is counterproductive
improve and learn,treat signature campaign as a fun way to learn more about the subject while earning some money

Everyone should understand this fact.

Both correct. Its an epidemic lately. The forum is putting things in place to combat it though

Just seeing this thread inspire me a lot, I was born at a place that consider as poor area so I want try my best as good as possible ( to make my parent proud of me )


Everyone will do anything for money 

Easy to say/write, hard to implement as long as the forum allows multiple accounts.
There are users (especially from 3-rd world) who use multiple accounts to secure a monthly income.
That cause a low level of posts quality and a high level of spam.

Excellent thread.

This times 1000. It seems that many half-baked posters, spammers and whatnot seem to think that they are somehow entitled to enroll in campaigns. However, this is most certainly not the case and this mentality needs to stop.

I've had some of these cases before. Those are usual logical fallacies (e.g. appeal to emotion) and should be ignored. Signature campaigns are not Caritas.

following and bookmarked.

and Thanks BTW.

Id like to take the time to try and explain how to apply for a campaign, how to act when in a campaign, and what not to do while in any campaign. I've been getting a lot of messages lately from users who i feel, think that a signature campaign wouldn't survive if they weren't in it. I have news for you all, if you don't take a spot, there are 50 others waiting in line. There are only a few users on this forum IMO that are desirable, the rest of you are expendable.

How to join a campaign or choose a campaign that is right for you

When you are looking to join a signature campaign, the first thing you need to understand is you're basically applying for a job. When you're hired, then you're expected to do that job. If you do not do that job, then you are subject to not being paid for that job. Its pretty simple to comprehend, I don't care what your nationality is.

Ok now when applying for said campaign, you need to look for a campaign that has openings for your rank. Next you need to read the campaign thread and make sure you understand the rules for said campaign. If you decide that you understand and can follow said rules of the campaign you then follow the steps that particular manager tells you to to apply. Normally post your bitcointalk name, rank, current post count, and bitcoin address. Some campaigns have other requirements, but these are the basics. If the rules are too complicated for you, or you know you will not qualify for payment, then you need to look at a different campaign.

Once you have applied WAIT PATIENTLY FOR A MANAGER TO RESPOND. You should not pm a manager and ask them to look at your application. We will look at it when we get the time. Some of us are managing multiple campaigns and it may take a day to respond.(sometimes 2) Point being you don't need to pm us over your application, we will see it. If you followed all the steps and are wearing the signature, then your posts will already be counted as per the post count on your application.

After you have been accepted you are then working for that particular manager and that particular company. When you are hired by that manager or company, you are expected to advertise for them by posting. Now, i feel a lot of you are confused by what that means. That doesn't mean you need to go posting like a madman and get all your posts in on 1 day. It means you post consecutively throughout the week. Companies are looking for users that can constructively make posts all week long so that their advertisement is seen in a thread. They don't want to see their ad buried in the thread 4-5 pages back where no one reads it or sees it.

You also should be loyal to the company you applied to work for. Users that leave a campaign because they see another one start that offers .002btc per week more are not users ill be looking to keep hiring. If you apply to a campaign and are accepted, you should try to stick around til you're paid for that week. Then it's acceptable to leave.

If you plan on leaving a campaign, you should either post in the campaign thread you're leaving, or send the manager a message out of respect.

You also only need to be commenting on topics you are interested in and read other users replies in a thread. This does a few things for you. It 1 makes your post a little more constructive because you're actually interested in the topic and will be more likely to post a valid question or response. Also if you read other users replies before making your reply, you ensure that you're not cluttering up the thread with an answer or question that has already been asked or answered.

I honestly believe either half of you don't care or don't read a thread at all. The managers here(most of them) are not ignorant. We see you all making the same reply as a user 4 posts above you. We see that you don't care to read. We see the timespan between your posts. We see a lot of things i'm not gonna mention in this thread as it's irrelevant right now. Just know that we are not all ignorant. All you're doing by acting ignorant yourselves are ensuring you'll eventually find yourselves on our blacklists.

Now let's talk about if you are rejected by a manager. If you're rejected, move on. Don't message a manager and ask why. The answer is, you're not making very good posts, you're account has been inactive too much, you're an alt of someone(most of us are not supporting alts anymore), or whatever other reason there be. You were rejected and you need to deal with it. Improve your account and you'll be better off.

Now with all this being said, i'd like to revisit my earlier comment about some of you feeling like you're entitled to be in a campaign. No one is entitled to be in any campaign unless a manager says so. You people need to show the managers respect period. No i'm not saying kiss our asses. What i am saying is RESPECT OUR DECISIONS. Don't get butthurt because your account status is terrible at the time you were rejected.Take the message and improve your status. Just because you have joined bitcointalk, it doesn't mean we automatically should enroll you into anything. Joining a campaign is a privilege, not a right. You'll only be enrolled if your account qualifies.

I also want to send a message to some of you 3rd world users. I'm sorry you were born into the life you have, or live in a poor area of the world. That's not my fault. If you wish to partake in a campaign please make sure you can read and write good english. Broken english posts look terrible. I know you're just trying to earn some money but what's gonna happen is you'll land yourself on the blacklist for posting nonsense.

This also isn't a paycheck for you. This portion is for everyone BTW. Campaigns are meant to be a way for you to earn a few dollars while casually posting on the forum. If i know you're an account farmer i will auto land your name on the blacklist along with all the accounts.

The SMAS list is a list of users I feel are shitposting, burstposting, or spammers in general. Landing yourself on this list means you will no longer be allowed to apply for campaigns I manage. You will most likely also fond yourself restricted from other managers campaigns as well. It is in your best interest to not make this list as I will make it very hard for you to get off the list.


SMAS list I have added a link to my personal ban list for the SMAS. I used to allow users to ask for a review but after getting 100s of pms from users who had not improved quality at all, I decided to make my list permanent.

If you find yourself on this list  and honestly feel like you have improved, you can request a review. I will not accept any review requests for 3 months from today's date, April 25th 2018.

If anyone has anything to add feel free to message me and ill add it to the OP.

**EDITS**

SMAS has pretty much disappeared but I still have my banned members. Below are some links that are relevant to users.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52577567 List from cryptotalk, most of these members will not make it into campaigns managed by me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52421314 New blacklist, these guys def will not make it in a campaign.



As most of you know, when you join a signature campaign you are helping a company to advertise their product. The more attention their product gains, the better chance you will have a signature space rented for a longer period of time.

What are some ways for you to help a company? Users should explore posting in multiple sections. Some users only visit certain sections of the forum. I'm not telling you to go shitpost in sections where you have 0 knowledge. I'm saying the more sections you can make a constructive post in, the more possible users that might see the advertisement.

User should also IMO be looking at reading a companies announcement thread. Companies want their topic to be seen. If a topic is getting 0 views/visability there is less chance other people are seeing their product. Especially in gambling topics. If you join a gambling campaign you should visit their site, visit their thread, and give an opinion whether it be good or bad. Good opinions help so others may be curious to see the site, bad opinions so that admins can fix issues.

No i'm not saying be a bumping service for that company, i'm saying a company is hiring you, you should do your best to help them out and make your job last as long as possible.


This to me is extremely important for all managers to think about when choosing participants to hire. If you open a users profile and notice that 90%+ of their posts are in Altcoin discussion threads, bitcoin discussion threads, and trading discussion threads run away quick. These types of users are generally crap and add little to 0 value to a campaign. They're here only to be paid.

That doesn't mean all users who post in these sections are trash, but generally most are.