Topic: Campaings already cutting rates (Read 3756 times)

Come on, stop shit-posting. Bitcoin is not this fabulous massive currency yet, face it. We do not have a world economy revolving around us. Bit-X, et cetera, have costs in US dollars. They quite often deal with US dollars. The money they pay you with is Bitcoin, but that's bought and usually budgeted in US dollars. You are getting paid the exact same, pretty much. And you're not a worker. You're getting the privilege of getting paid like someone who has an ad on their car.

If you are confident about your posts you won't have a problem. Because there are too many users but only few quality posters. Campaign managers will select better users for their limited places. Don't forget it's all about how you advertise your product. Companies don't want some shit-posters to advertise their product/site when they have a choice to pick only elite posters.

And when BTC drops another 30% we will not see a rise of 30%.

The unfortunate or ironic thing is that the US (since we're talking about BTC in terms of USD), when the economy improves most people get to make more money via raises and bonuses. Now that's the evil economy so many people want Bitcoin to triumph over, yet in this example when the bitcoin economy improved a class of workers got pay cuts.

It's worse than a disparity in pay! I love capitalism. I understand why they're doing this. I wish more people were upset and could take action. 

Boycotting - a posting freeze - would work perfectly. BUT, the hard part is getting people to comply to it. You'd risk giving your spot up for some person just joining that wants in, but at least you'd have stuck to your principles! And of course all the vet bitcointalkers that hate the volume the signature campaigns bring would be thrilled!

You should give it a shot!

I completely agree with every word in this post. I remember campaigns paid 0.0015 when BTC price was more than 600$. What changed then and now? BTC price is 300-350$ range now and most campaigns decreased their rates. That's dumb. Accounts also worth much more back then, now you can make ROI in 2 weeks when you buy a Full Member account.
The best thing we can do is boycott those campaigns and find better ones. I always prefer fixed campaigns. At least they don't change rates in the middle of campaign. If they change it they deserve negative feedback.

Definitely cutting the rates. I remember the days back when Bit-x campaign was still accepting new applicants you could earn 0.1+ with a full member account. With this cut in rates also comes in a decrease for the price of accounts.

This is still a crazy amount of money that you could make just for posting on a forum. With these amounts, today's rates look like a freaking dust!

You are right about over saturation of the campaigners nowadays!

I dont have any problem with Bit-x, these people play fair.

BTC went up 30% and payment was reduced 30%. USD vise, I make exactly the same.

Well, some people did make quite a lot per month (easily over 1 BTC a month). I know (think, rather) hilariousandco made a ridiculous amount of BTC back in the hayday of PrimeDice's signature campaign. The thing is that now we have a lot of greedy spammers and the signature ad market is simply saturated with supply - oversupplied for anything Full Member or below (perhaps even Senior Member), with Hero and Legendary being the only two groups not really truly saturated yet.

Nope not a typo, that was the maximum you were able to make, although I doubt that many people (if anyone) actually earned that much.

There is no limit as to the number of posts a user is able to make in a single day.

Is this a typo? You were able to make 4.4BTC per MONTH? At the Senior Member rate you posted one would need to make 4,400 posts per month to make 4.4BTC. That's ~150 per day...surely someone would be banned even if they could make that many posts per day.

So it seems like you were one of the lucky ones who got in at the right time. As I see many in your campaign's thread fighting for scraps to get a spot, even a little back stabbing to get the last senior spot when someone levels up in rank. That is a pity though.
The campaign that I am in is very small so the admins run a tight ship and don't let anybody slack around. No nonsense post of any kind. Just as a signature campaign should be run so there is no within fighting amongst group members when it comes to spots or rate increases for some and decreases for all.

Marco raised the price to 0.001 for Full members and I remember this as I was one then. It was only for a week when the bot was launched and then it reduced back to the rate of 0.0009 and then he further reduced it by 0.0001 BTC per post for all members That was the time many did leave the campaign but some still felt it was a good rate due to the no cap limit.

Marco now selects users depending on their post quality and reviews them as well. I was never screened before joining the campaign as I joined when the bot was launched but now I've seen users who have been screened. Even other campaigns like yours and few others are looking at the posts of users to test their capability but some still feel they aren't being paid what they deserve.


IMHO, posting on a forum shouldn't be considered a job and we shouldn't considered that we are doing something big as advertising for a website. It's an incentive and campaigns are to decide what they can afford to pay the users. If they start over paying the users, they will need to shut down and then there may be no campaigns on this forum. We should appreciate them rather that be harsh. If we look at other forums, some pay their users as low as $0.05 and when you reach the minimum amount of cashing out, they shut down.

It is expected that signature campaigns will cut rates same thing in real world scenario, if a company can't cut the salary of each employees they will cut down the number of workers. I would rather go with the cut down the rates than nothing at all.

Definitely. We don't need to stick with the low paying sig campaign and just feel free to switch to another good paying one. They made the rules. If you agree, then you join otherwise no. But I don't like the behavior as well if the campaign manager just cut the rate in the middle of the campaign. To some extent they break the contracts even they made it.   

This is where the advantages of having an escrow for the campaign come in. Unfortunately coinut doesn't have one.
If you really feel strongly about the fact that Coinut shouldn't have cut rates midway, you can open a scam accusation thread and see how things play out.

That it true. Campaign owner always thinks about their profits and will see how to optimize the funds to get more profits their company so it is up to them to decide how much they want to pay for each post but at the same time they are not forcing any one of us to join their program so we have a freedom to leave the signture campaign also and find your profitable campaign.

Back in the hayday of when PD signature campaign was still around senior members received .001BTC per post and Hero members received .0012BTC per post, and you were able to make up to 4.4BTC per month (all of this is IIRC). The price was ~$500-$700 when PD closed. Around that same time, you could get a fixed rate deal earning .1BTC in exchange for 50 posts over a month.

Since then per post prices have risen roughly 10%-15% or so, however for campaigns that pay the most were often very selective in who they accept, so anyone couldn't randomly join and start spamming away. The practice of paying higher rates but being selective as to who can join the campaign was something that Carra23 started, and for the most part her campaigns have been very successful.

I believe that marco may have raised rates several months ago, however I think that was in response to dwindling enrollment, and not lower BTC prices

Has there ever been an increase in payments? I've never seen one and I've been here for over a year. I've seen payments drop and drop. And  the price over that time has gone fro $600 down to $200 and now up to nearly $400. The payment moves and price moves aren't correlated if you draw them out on a graph.

With every big price jump or drop it will either will be a lower payment or bigger. I also think it is fair though.
If the campaigns would have 50 max posts, alot of people wouldn't be interested anymore, or they will collect alt account ansd then spam.

It's fair to lower the pay rates but I prefer a fixed payment in terms of USD atleast and not BTC as the price of BTC fluctuates a lot. Currently it's $370 and my campaign pays 0.0007 BTC as of now which is fair but what if the price goes to $300? Also, I don't think the campaigns shouldn't lower the rate as if tomorrow BTC is worth $1000, I get paid 0.001 BTC/post which means I'll get $1/post. It's not affordable unless there is a restriction of 25-50 posts.

Exactly... Be thankful you get anything for posting on a forum.

Even though it sucks for us i don't really see a problem with it lol. It's their campaign and we have a choice weather to be a part of it or not

Coinut IS getting away with it. The comments on their thread indicate that they're calculating payments for the most recent term (during which the rate change was made) for the new discounted rate, not the full rate they started the term with.

Pulling this kind of shady shit is an easy way to motivate people to resign...maybe that's what Coinut wants.

If you're frustrated about this, let Coinut know. Here's there signature campaign thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-coinutcom-signature-campaign-pay-per-post-weekly-992660

id imagine that this would still hold somewhat true for an average spammer, even considering your typing speed is more than triple of what is considered "average."
consider an average person with a typing speed of ~40 wpm and spamming spammy, redundant 1 liners in whatever thread, and you might be looking at similar or even greater values of payment, considering a 1-liner might not even take a minute to write out. the only limiting factor would be topics / posts to constantly reply to if one did this for hours on end.

yahoo i think you take it too personally already. i dont blame you, the manager, for doing a bad job or having any bad decision. even when you setup the new rules, i never actually criticise about it at all as you can see that there is a lot of people complaining and leave the campagin. i respect your decision cause these new rules has the purposes to benefit the owner and that is the purpose of campagin. i too didnt really change my style of talking in this forum just becuz u add new rules. so i didnt really go and make sure i type more so i can hit the number of char. i just continue to be myself. so point 1 you need not be offended, i always find that you r a good manager.

2nd pt, sry i dont know about this. but my pt still stand(will descibe later)

3rd pt, it is totally right to pay at the old rate up till the campagin pause! that is really well done by this campagin.

Overall, i am really ok with new rules, with new rates etc. but i am just a bit unhappy that the campagin pause halfway. maybe it is misunderstanding but what you all have wrote is that payment is every week so by having the signature, from my point of view is that we both agree to the rate for the week so it is really no nice to pause half way.

but before you get unhappy again, given now the owner is paying by fiat, i understand more of the situation why u wan to pause halfway. to be honest, even if u nv pause, i also wont be posting much cause i m busy this past week. it is just that the system is not that good where the owner dont pay upfront that causes so much issue. from the other campagin, you can see that ore mine still can carry on till the last payment. just imagine would it be good if for the other campagin, you just suddenly say i gonna stop halfway and pay u the respective amount if you meet the respective ratio of the target post cause the owner no $$.

anyway thanks for the campagin. i still think u r a great manger.

Don't complain about rates. Forums are used to voice your point of view on a particular topic or give your opinion. If your using it solely to make money and not give a lick about what you are writing about then you are not worth a penny (a bit in this case) to the campaign you, under no obligation, signed up for.
Rates are under the discretion of the company that pays out to the campaign managers not theirs alone. So stop complaining to them.
Here is a perfect explanation from a manager of several campaigns and he knows what he is talking about:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12903805

This was about to happen ,but not all campaigns have dropped their rates.
Some owners are genuine or happy with their campaign and they dont find a reason to lower the rates when all the transactions are in Btc.
I have barely cashed out my sig earning's ever, people in BtC are not looking for quick money making scheme at least i am not.
I got a job which fulfills all my needs,etc..
MD is a new casino and they already spent a lot on promotion before yahoo took over it and managed the spam,plus unibtc won 50 coins.
people have been violating the no-limit Bit-x campaign for several months now,but i dont find a reason why coinut have lowered their rates.

however,if you don't like some of their rules then you better don't rent your signature to them, SIMPLE.

If they do that then the opposite of what you say will happen, instead of stopping, the spammers will multiply their efforts by buying more accounts to spam for signature campaigns, so less money per post = more spam

Yeah we all do this when we enroll on a new campaign, the problem is that they all impose post limits per week or month, and it's perfectly understandable. In my country alone (and it's not really a poor third world country) that would be a very nice wage with the current dollar value.

Maybe the campaign managers should hire and select elite members and pay them just that instead of flooding the forum with thousands of spammers. I know it won't work for every campaign, but it would definitely make the service/site advertised more special and distinguished. Quality over quantity.

This has long been a problem and is nothing new to the current runup in the price of BTC. Campaign managers need to do a much better job in managing participants 

I disagree. People are allowed to speak what is on their mind and are allowed to want to receive more money for the service they provide.
I disagree. People who are in a signature campaign are providing a service to companies they are advertising for. I would not personally advertised for a company that I found to be untrustworthy and/or likely to be a scam. I am not receiving any more money for me advertising for the site I am advertising for then what such advertising is worth.
If a company develops a reputation
of treating their vendors/suppliers/employees poorly and/or paying them the absolute bare minimum then others will not want to do business with that company. Also most companies that advertise via signature campaigns have revenue denominated in BTC anyway, so their BTC revenue is not going to decline when the price of BTC goes up.

In a weeks time? No, however companies may have been looking for ways to cut advertising costs, or they may have been on the verge of "pulling the trigger" of lowering rates, and the recent runup in the USD/BTC price may have simply been a good time to do so because their advertisers would be receiving a similar amount in terms of USD.
True, however they mostly have revenue denominated in BTC, therefore it would be prudent for them to attempt to have their expenses denominated in BTC. Not only that but when the price of BTC increases, people holding BTC often are more willing to spend their BTC so when BTC increases is exactly when companies are going to want to have the most advertising.
The signature campaign rates as of ~2 weeks ago were roughly in line as to what they were ~1.5 years ago when BTC was trading at roughly US$700-800. IMO most of the campaigns that lowered their rates were highly associated with spam, and it would probably be a fairly good thing if a good number of the people advertising for them stopped doing so.

It is also important to note that not all campaigns have lowered their rates.
I would suggest dropping your campaign (they are associated with a lot of spam anyway) and joining one that is higher paying.

I calculated back when BTC was ~$250 that at 0.0012 BTC per post I would make 30 cents per post. I type at 130 words per minute and it is very easy for me to end up pumping out a decent quality post in 1-2 minutes. I calculated that if I really tried hard and made a conservative 40 posts per hour (even though it'd basically be spam), I would be making $12/hour. For a lot of places that's way above minimum wage. For posting on a damn forum.

is not necessary to campaigns drastically dropping rates. little tougher criteria in terms of quality posts is enough. but I think it's too much work for check all of the members post.
often can be seen two almost identical posts one below the other, and both are 70+ characters, and probably eligible for the payments

Who cares if they cut the rates? Sure, maybe it would have been nice for you and the posters if they didn't, maybe slightly more so if they only handled BTC. But this is the real world. BTC is worth money. Your services are only worth a set amount of money, and the market has both supply and demand. If you price yourself above the equilibrium for the demand and supply for your member-rank and quality of posting, you aren't going to get a good signature campaign. And supply for member-ranks in signature campaigns is extremely high.

what these entitled shits dont realize is theyre getting paid, thats right, youre getting money, for typing your thoughts garbage spam on a forum. there arent very many other places where you get paid for typing random shit, with no work experience, and you dont even have to know what the hell youre talking about. just like possum577 up there.

one of the big problems is, these people expect to be accepted into a sig campaign, as if this forum's purpose in existing is to allow sig campaigns to exist and pay out any user that comes along. its pretty clear these people who seem to be offended by the rates dropping have no sense of how the real world world; advertising is essentially paying for public exposure of your business / site. there is absolutely no reason to overpay for something, which im pretty sure these cheap ass spammers would never do, considering they nitpick over every single post to get them counted towards their pay. in addition, in the case of the ore mine campaign's  status, there is zero money to throw money into advertising when that advertising is essentially netting you little to no traffic; its a money sink for the owners. im pretty sure these spammers wouldnt like throwing their sig campaign payouts into a dice site and losing every single time in 1 roll for whatever reason. but yet they expect the campaign runners to do the same.

i think hes more or less spamming under the guise of pretending to care about the spamming problem. its fairly apparent to me from his recent posts that hes just posting barely on topic studd separated into as many posts as possible to just increase his post count for the bot.

actually what hurts is greedy users who feel obligated to post trash post in order to gain as much BTC as possible. Another thing that hurts is users apparently like you who join a campaign and complain when rates are reduced but in reality they're still earning the same dollar value as before. They're just pissed cause in their minds they could have earned more.

At the end of the day anyone who is accepted into a campaign is getting a privilege. They shouldn't expect any site owner to bow down and kiss their asses. Owners allot a certain amount of money towards advertising. Whether they look at it in fiat or btc value doesn't matter. They have the right to change rates for the good or the bad at anytime. They're just looking at trying to spend the same amount of money per week/ month period.

Now if ya wanna get really crucial and have something to bitch about why don't ya go look at the ppl of bit-x secondstrade yobit and other spampaigns and and report 90% of the posts they make. They're shitposting idiots that deserve 0pay in most cases but managers use bots(not even doing their jobs) and allow these guys to be paid

I doubt that in a week's time these companies have realized some direct impact of effectiveness on the advertising and cost benefit between how much business they bring in and how much they want to payout. These companies are ONLY worried about how much they'll be paying out in terms of fiat value, and they don't want to pay that much. It's smart from a business sense, but it doesn't make any of their campaign posters more loyal to their campaign.

It also hurts the bitcoin community/economy because it shows that the's companies are not committed to doing business in Bitcoin...they're still just focused on how much fiat they can get for their bitcoin.

I, too, have not cashed out my campaign earnings. I think of it only as bitcoin and I'm disappointed that I now need to work nearly twice as hard to earn the same bitcoin - particularly when recent publicity has probably brought more people to this forum to see the ads in my signature.

It's actually not fraud, literally, but I share your frustration. When you join a campaign you don't sign a contract. They aren't legally obligated to pay you anything or to keep the same rate. The only consequence they have to not following through on the deal is negative trust on this Forum and earning a bad reputation.

I don't remember them EVER raising rates - do you? I've only watched them drop rates since the price was $600 18 months ago.

So we should fight for our rights - what do you propose we do? Go on strike or something? If we did that the original members of this forum would be so happy, haha. It might have a positive result on rates, or it would open the door for people that want to join the campaign.

People who spam post with an advertisement in their signature area are giving something of value (advertising) to the company they are advertising for. If the amount that posters (advertisers) are getting paid is not cost effective to the advertisers then advertisers will offer a lower payment for such advertisements, or withdraw offers to have them advertise at all. The fact that the price of BTC has gone up substantially in recent weeks means that a company who was considering to lower their advertising rates can do so while still maintaining as high of rates when measured in USD.

There is more then enough people who are willing to advertise for very low rates (just look at the campaigns with all the shit posters), so companies that lower their rates will likely be able to find people to advertise for them (although they will likely be not much more then "warm bodies" making low quality posts).

I would personally say that the amounts I have considered accepting for my advertising services have always been measured in BTC, and that I have cashed out very little of my signature campaign earnings (as well as other BTC related earnings). I would also say that I would not personally be willing to advertise for 0.0007BTC per post and that I would choose to rather have no paid signature at all over that low of BTC rates.

No one is forcing anyone to accept low BTC rates in exchange for advertising and if someone is offering low rates then you can ask for something higher or you can decline to advertise for those who offer low rates.

I hope the campaigns collectively keep dropping the rates. If you guys cut them even more people will still join them. Lower rates to the point these spammers will find it is not so profitable. You guys can all msg each other and use the same rates...people will whine, but still take what they can get. In the end this is free coins for doing something we are doing already...stop the spammers who make this a job.

My turn to chime in here as i just discovered this thread. ill post all my points of view and you guys can have your own opinions.

1. Im the campaign manager. I dont decide rates. I do what im told to do.
2. The MD campaign is paying usd price but at current btc rate
3. Was it not fair to 1 pay you guys the old rate when campaign was paused?


Its not like these campaigns being run whos rates have changed are saying we want to fuck everyone over this week. Its more the opposite, you as users are greedy as fuck and want to get as much as possible IMO. Half of you users in these campaigns are shit posters. I see a few in this thread. Youre lucky to be accepted into sig campaigns with some of the trash posted.

Im gonna stop now cause i dont feel like i need to justify this any further

although i never rise anything but you should know that he stop the current campagin half way instead of the whole week which is still 7th. by right, the btc should be received before the price rise by yahoo for the current week, so it should not affect the company as everythnig is pre set. however, now they suddenly stop the current campagin and reissue a lower price for the 2nd half of the week. in this way, the half amount of btc they save from half the week can be used to pay for the new WHOLE week of new campagin.

Many other campagin too change their payment but it only applies after the current cycle.

I agree with you that those calculation should not be done quickly. However, I do not think Bitcoin will drop back to 250 again. It would go well 30% above 250.

Magicaldice new campaign has changed it to the usd! They are calculating rates in usd but paying equivalent in bitcoins at the time of the payment and at the current exchange rate.

Something like, you get 30 cents for post, in the end of the month you made 100 posts, you get whatever $30 in bitcoin is, pretty simple actually...

Its interesting to see the changes in the payouts. From the websites part i understand they want to pay less and so they either change it or set it to a set value in USD as im sure they also take profits in fiat(payments, taxes etc).

Done already, now Sr. member rates are 0.0007 instead of the 0.001 btc rate before. Anyways guys, we all know you will spend the BTC on USD/the real world , sometime so why do you think exchanges or gambling sites won't. They will be losing huge profit that they could've saved by cutting down the rates, which they are currently doing

Not all campaigns done cutting the rates. Most of the campaigns rate were still remains same. Even highly paying bit-x too doesn't changed their rate yet!


EDIT: bit-x too changed their rates. I checked it last night.

I don't think there is much posters can do as I honestly see that there is a lot of demand for signature campaign spots. If current unsatisfied users leave, they will be replaced very fast with new ones that are ready to post for decreased rates. Granted, post quality would be lower, but who cares at the end.

I do hope that campaign managers will act accordingly and raise rates right away if Bitcoin crashes.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!! RIGHTS? GO get a job and maybe you will end up getting more rather than posting every minute with your alt accounts

I think they should better have waited for what is really happening this week, it can drop down again or it can go further up so then they need to re adjust it again. So kinda wasted their time.

They pay their users with bitcoin not USD, they will pay their users according to bitcoin price.
It's way to prevent risks from bitcoin volatility.

Sorry but I think that such calculation shouldn't be done for the moment.
Bitcoin price is so unstable and after few days it can reach 600$ as it can drop to 200$.
if you make posts during this period and the btc price return & get stable at 250$ again you will simply loose 30% of the btc that you used to earn without the cut...

But as i said before, if someone didn't like this he simply have to choose another compagn

from what i see magical dice has changed their rates to USD. i think that not acceptable..
its because their gambling site is gamble with btc not by USD, but if their lower the BTC instead giving USD, that are reasonable and fair enough

My campaign (Bit-x) cut it rates from 0.001 to 0.0007 BTC. A 30% decrease. The cut is not much and I actually like the cut. In fact, I am earning more in term of USD.

0.001 x 250 (before the recent bubble) = 0.25 USD per post;
0.0007 x 400 (average price as of now) = 0.28 USD per post;

The cut also mean that Bitcoin price is increasing. And ... as a true Bitcoin supporter, who dont like Bitcoin to increase?

How they can use US dollars instead of bitcoins on this forum ? After all , its a bitcoin based forum buddy.

I don't think so, this price crash is just a temporary crash, it should get back to normal maybe around tomorrow
Preev is showing 433 now
Although i saw the price drops back to 397 few hours ago

Who knows honestly. I believe bit-x dropped back to 0.0008 per post, I wouldn't be surprised if more signature campaigns start changing around.

Also the old payments probably will not come back just due to companies wanting to keep more of the profits for a project, or personal gain.

Bitcoin price crashed. Maybe they will go back to their old payments ? I hope they will since Bitcoin price took a 120$ loss of value in a matter of hours.

Most of the cuts are fair due to the BTC price changes. bitmixer left their rates the same so that is generous for the full members in that campaign.

Maybe they should advertise the offer in US dollars instead of bitcoin, or setting a rate when they already bought the coins to pay people in the end of the term.

It's sad that people don't respect their affiliates and don't keep their own word/deal, but atleast he did pay those old posts, which makes the situation a bit better, but still no just.
Now imagine some people that depend on the agreed payout to pay for service, loan or something else, but are now unable to do so. What are they supposed to do, ask for loan/service to also
be lowered due to price surge ?! Of course not.

MagicalDice's manager campaign, yahoo has been fair and paid us this period with the old rates.

That happened with Coinut. A lot of people complained so the person running that campaign agreed to pay everyone for their posts prior to the announcement at the old rates and all of the posts after the announcement at the new rates. It is unprofessional for him to change the rates like that in the middle of the week, but at least he agreed to pay at the old rates for prior posts.

If the period has started, it's extremely injust for op to make changes half way through period, and personally i would leave that campaign w/o a doubt, but
the campaigns like bitx that announced reducing of the rates for next period are justified and fair, because participants can always leave after payout.
I'm just interested to see will the campaigns increase rates if the prices return to last month's average..

This totally unprofessional behavior i think they must have to wait until finish the current period.

Almost all sites earning in BTCitcoin because 99% sites are gambling related and base currency is BTCitcoin so in that case cut the rate during midway like Coinut and Magicaldice are not a good practice.

According to me , if those sites are getting profits in bitcoins  then they must not have issue about bitcoin prices.  If they are getting the profits in USD $$$, then its fine to pay the members by changing rates.

OP as someone else said there are no signed agreements in place.
They are free to change the rates accordingly. No one forces anyone here to join any of those sig ad.I really don't understand why you're complaining

Well compagns have the right to change their rates but i think it is more appreciated if they inform their users at least 1 day before.
Anyway there is many signature compagns over here and any one could change to a better comp

It is sad to see this happens especially if their profit remains the same (in that case I hope they return to their initial rates)

It is a shame if campaign managers are reducing the value midway through the campaign, it would be reasonable to finish the current period and then announce rates will be cut, giving the users the chance to decide if they want to stay or go.

Then business is business and as others have said there is no formal agreement in place but one of trust.

I have been seeing some campaigns now switching the payment or evaluating the payments in terms of cents.
I don't recommend this on this forum as it is BTC forum , even though how much the price is always deal or evaluate everything in coins.

Fight for your rights to spam these forums...

Fuck you.

We signed no agreement bro! Watch your mouth by the way. Keep calm and relax.

Wherever possible = wherever you cucks will do nothing about it. Look at what happened in the Coinut thread when these fuckers tried to get away with not paying them at the original rate but at lot of people told them to pay them at the accorded rate or their shit would get wrecked with negative trust:


This is how it's done, none of this "oh it's just business" bullshit. If whoever pays you starts fucking around you fix it with popular pressure until they pay what they accorded, and as you can see it works.

They did change their rates in the middle of the campaign, but they said they will use the old rates for the posts that were made before the new rates are announced
me myself have decided to move on from coinut because it isn't profitable to stick with them anymore

Rights don't exist, you have to create them by not being a submissive cuck to the guy that pays you.

Rights: The right to be paid at the rate that the guy said, changing a rate in the middle of an ongoing term is a fraud.
But I guess you fucking cucks like to be buttfucked.

What kind of rights are you talking about?
Don't be pathetic! As I wrote in a different thread they can do whatever they want.

posters' rights? me no see nothing about that nowhere.

magicaldice has also relaunched their sig campaign with USD based rates due to the constant volatility of the price right now, and its fair to assume that this price change is affecting the actual businesses that these sig campaigns advertise for.

thats just business, minimize your advertising costs wherever possible. besides, a sig campaign, sure, its an incentive to post more actively, but its not something to really see as a job or constant, reliable source of income. theyre here to give people a little something extra while posting on the forum.

cringe.

Sad, sad to see. Some even attempted to get away with cutting rates during an ongoing term (Coinut). Pathetic behavior. That's just a direct fraud. When the price goes up, your Bitcoins go up as well, so you can pay people what you said you would paid. No excuses.

Also notice that when the price was lower, they took a ton of days before (sightly) raising the rates. Hell, I saw raises of like 0.0012 to 0.0014 when the price was crashing from 400 to 200, now Coinut and others have gone from 0.0015 to 0.0008.

Don't let these fuckers fuck around with your time and money. Fight for your rights, posters.