Can freezed address in electrum accept money?

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on January 04, 2025, 09:24:47 AM

one thing the file document does is that it actually contains all scripts and commands previously setup like the Freeze coins and even the password to that wallet.

Just a small correction. While it’s true that Electrum keeps record of the coins (utxo) and addresses you choose to freeze by storing them into the wallet file, it does not store the password in it.
There is no need for that. When you try to open a protected wallet file, Electrum will use whatever password you provide and if it successfully decrypts the file then that password is the correct one.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 03, 2025, 08:57:41 AM

The freeze address or UTXO is on the software level, so if you have installed electrum on your device then it only works on a particular level but if you import the same wallet into a different device then you need to freeze the address or UTXO to make it unspendable on the device again. So yes, it's not possible for anyone to restrict an incoming TX to an address.

Exactly importing the seed phrase in another wallet doesn’t mean that the freeze addresses or UTXO will be there too, but that is not related to importing the wallet using the file document because one thing the file document does is that it actually contains all scripts and commands previously setup like the Freeze coins and even the password to that wallet.

Quote from: Saint-loup on January 03, 2025, 05:24:21 PM

Why someone would freeze an unused address? You freeze addresses containing funds or eventually emptied ones that have been used for a transaction that you don't want to be linked to your wallet. So yes maybe if you try to freeze some addresses that have never been used before you will see them appearing when you do a receiving address request, or for the change but nobody does that in reality, since it's useless.

Both of you are saying same thing there is no reason to freeze up and unused address as it can still be available for both recipient or as change, the only reason I see that the unused address can be frozen forehand is when you’re expecting some funds on it and do not want it mixed up with others later, maybe funds from somewhere you don’t trust and don’t want it mixed up. This too is only possible if you’re not gonna request a change or receiving address before the funds arrive

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Quote from: Saint-loup on January 03, 2025, 05:24:21 PM

Why someone would freeze an unused address?

I don't know. You should ask this question from yourself.
The question is why someone would freeze a used address, so that electrum won't send the change to it?
The other question is why someone would freeze a used address, so that electrum won't propose it as a receving address?

If you make a transaction, it has a change and you haven't disabled the use of change addresses, electrum will send the change to one of unused change addresses.
If you request for a new receiving address, electrum will give you one of unused addresses and it will never give you a used address.

You said "If you freeze an address Electrum won't use it to send change and it won't propose it as a receiving address when you use the receiving request features" and as I said, your statement is completely wrong.
Can you please elaborate more on your statement?

We freeze an address, if we don't want the UTXOs associated with it to be spent. The freeze address feature has nothing to do with what receiving address electrum will give you or what address the change will be sent to.

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Why someone would freeze an unused address? You freeze addresses containing funds or eventually emptied ones that have been used for a transaction that you don't want to be linked to your wallet. So yes maybe if you try to freeze some addresses that have never been used before you will see them appearing when you do a receiving address request, or for the change but nobody does that in reality, since it's useless.
I'm using Electrum since several years and I have many frozen addresses but I've never had the idea to freeze an unused address before your comment to be honest.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on January 03, 2025, 12:57:14 PM

If you freeze an address Electrum won't use it to send change and it won't propose it as a receiving address when you use the receiving request feature

No, this is completely wrong.
You freeze addresses, so that they are not used when making a transaction. That's all.

Whenever you request a new receving address, electrum pick a new unused address from your addresses list and it doesn't matter whether you have frozen addresses or not. Also, electrum will still send the change to the frozen change addresses.

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If you freeze an address Electrum won't use it to send change and it won't propose it as a receiving address when you use the receiving request feature but if someone knowing this address sends funds to it, it won't be able to prevent it. Funds received there won't be able to be spent unless you unfreeze the address or you use another wallet. It's useful to prevent Electrum from using UTXOs belonging to this address, when you send funds without using coin control feature.

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Quote from: pornluver on January 03, 2025, 06:20:58 AM

Hello?

It's there to prevent money from being spent from that address right? But it can receive money right?

The freeze address or UTXO is on the software level, so if you have installed electrum on your device then it only works on a particular level but if you import the same wallet into a different device then you need to freeze the address or UTXO to make it unspendable on the device again. So yes, it's not possible for anyone to restrict an incoming TX to an address.

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Quote from: pornluver on January 03, 2025, 06:20:58 AM

Hello?

It's there to prevent money from being spent from that address right? But it can receive money right?

Electrum has a handy feature for that, you can freeze a specific address so it won’t be used for sending Bitcoin, but you can still receive funds to it. The only catch is, if the frozen address contains your entire Bitcoin balance, you won’t be able to send any Bitcoin at all until you unfreeze it.

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On the "Coins" tab you can also freeze specific UTXOs. It can be a pretty handy feature if you want to consolidate small UTXOs, or save on fees by spending from one that is large enough to cover your needs.

Another way to spend from specific addresses or UTXOs is to select multiple by pressing CTRL while you select them, then right click and "add to coin control." Then you can go to the Spend tab, and only those addresses or coins will be included in your output.

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Quote from: pornluver on January 03, 2025, 06:20:58 AM

It's there to prevent money from being spent from that address right? But it can receive money right?

It's a way to tell your wallet to exclude it from input transaction when you want to spend but at the blockchain level you can't freeze any address unless you destroy the private key and forget about it or used some lock spending scripts.

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Quote from: pornluver on January 03, 2025, 06:20:58 AM

Hello?

It's there to prevent money from being spent from that address right? But it can receive money right?

That's correct. There is nothing preventing you from receiving to that address. Exchanges and other wallets have no way to know whether the address you're using is frozen anyway, this is just a feature within Electrum to help you manage your funds.

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It's there to prevent money from being spent from that address right? But it can receive money right?

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