Can I get a transaction out of limbo with a high fee transaction from change?

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Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Other simple suggestions for deleting the transactions would be appreciated as well. I've tried pywallet but it is appears to be no longer maintained.

What you could have done is to spend the output and thus those miners with CPFP patch would be happy to include the transaction. Even though blockchain.info has pruned your transaction, the majority of the network might have not since it is widely known that blockchain.info can have different rules compared to other clients.

ron7684

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Quote from: achow101 on October 15, 2015, 09:02:03 PM

Quote from: ron7684 on October 15, 2015, 08:56:58 PM

AWESOME DUDE! I have my bitcoins back!

Good for you! Now send your transaction again with a high enough fee so this doesn't happen.

Or not at all, it was going to Hashnet but that shit closed down

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Quote from: ron7684 on October 15, 2015, 08:56:58 PM

AWESOME DUDE! I have my bitcoins back!

Good for you! Now send your transaction again with a high enough fee so this doesn't happen.

ron7684

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 02:04:25 AM

Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Other simple suggestions for deleting the transactions would be appreciated as well. I've tried pywallet but it is appears to be no longer maintained.

Adding another TX that spends the change from the first will do nothing if the 1st TX is not widely known in the network.

To remove the old unconfirmed TX, launch core with -zapwallettxes

AWESOME DUDE! I have my bitcoins back!

achow101

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Quote from: ron7684 on October 15, 2015, 05:26:35 PM

Quote from: achow101 on October 15, 2015, 03:45:29 PM

Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Yes, but only with some miners, like eligius. This is called Child Pays For Parent. You must have fees to cover both transactions and it should be sent directly through eligius's pool using their pushtx page. Also, don't send the transaction for something important like a payment but send it to yourself since it may not get confirmed.

This is what I had in mind when I asked. Cool to see that someone is taking care of it.

Are you going to be attempting a CPFP transaction or are you just waiting for it to be dropped? If you are waiting for it to be dropped, you need to close Bitcoin Core and remove the transaction so it doesn't keep broadcasting it.

ron7684

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Quote from: shorena on October 15, 2015, 02:04:25 AM

Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Other simple suggestions for deleting the transactions would be appreciated as well. I've tried pywallet but it is appears to be no longer maintained.

Adding another TX that spends the change from the first will do nothing if the 1st TX is not widely known in the network.

To remove the old unconfirmed TX, launch core with -zapwallettxes

I will try this as soon as my current TXs confirm

ron7684

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Quote from: achow101 on October 15, 2015, 03:45:29 PM

Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Yes, but only with some miners, like eligius. This is called Child Pays For Parent. You must have fees to cover both transactions and it should be sent directly through eligius's pool using their pushtx page. Also, don't send the transaction for something important like a payment but send it to yourself since it may not get confirmed.

This is what I had in mind when I asked. Cool to see that someone is taking care of it.

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Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Yes, but only with some miners, like eligius. This is called Child Pays For Parent. You must have fees to cover both transactions and it should be sent directly through eligius's pool using their pushtx page. Also, don't send the transaction for something important like a payment but send it to yourself since it may not get confirmed.

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If I understand correctly how it works, the first transaction needs to be confirmed for the second to be as well.
It doesn't matter if you send another transaction using the change address, even with a high fee.
It should confirm the second one, but the first one will still be pending. All funds will be unconfirmed.

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Quote from: ron7684 on October 14, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Other simple suggestions for deleting the transactions would be appreciated as well. I've tried pywallet but it is appears to be no longer maintained.

Adding another TX that spends the change from the first will do nothing if the 1st TX is not widely known in the network.

To remove the old unconfirmed TX, launch core with -zapwallettxes

ron7684

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So I made a 0.0006 transfer (225 bytes) with a fee of 225 satoshi using Bitcoin Core. The transaction has already been discarded from the blockchain.info mempool and I'd prefer to cancel the transaction anyway.

Will placing a new transaction from the change address with fees high enough to cover both transactions cause miners to pick up both?

Other simple suggestions for deleting the transactions would be appreciated as well. I've tried pywallet but it is appears to be no longer maintained.

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