Topic: Can Israeli - Palestinian conflict worsen the crisis? (Read 582 times)

An stable region means countries with vast amount of resources would be able to advance in different fields. For example see what China has done to US industries, imagine if an entire continent did that.

The best example to understand what I mean is comparing the situation with Europe pre World War 2, we can see how very little development happened during that time and how the economy was during the time when the entire region was destabilized by annual wars. Then look at what happened in post-WW2 Europe after the Union was formed and the wars stopped, bringing back stability.
For example the Germany we see today as the biggest economy of the bloc was once struggling with millions of people in absolute poverty with high unemployment rate.

Roughly 20 years ago they started a war with Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. That cost them about $10 trillion.
If they can pull a soft-colonization on Saudi Arabia, etc. without shooting a single bullet, obviously they'd choose that!

I'm not sure what you mean by "modern infrastructure". A country like Saudi Arabia is riddled with poverty and is far behind in development for basic infrastructure in majority of the country.
Don't just look at Mecca that is basically a "tourist" place they've developed because that is the picture that would be broadcast to the world. If you go a couple of blocks over, people are living in ruins.
Not to mention that Saudi regime is a dictatorship that doesn't even allow basic statistic about the situation in the country from coming out and nobody dares report on it either after what they did to the Washington Post reporter (chopped him up into little pieces).

Of course. In this world there are only hegemonies that exert control and dominance then there are other countries that accept being dominated by the hegemony to try and seek their personal or national interests under its shadow.
For example United States is a hegemony and Saudi Arabia is basically its colony. US dictates its policies and Saudi regime obeys and fulfills them while trying to seek their own personal interest since they run a dictatorship.

It's the same with Syria, a war torn country that is still struggling with terrorism, separatism, US occupation, food and energy crisis has to try and get close to a hegemony and play their big geopolitical game. So they play in favor of Russia and in return Russia is providing aid to Syria to for example fight ISIS and US. Gives some air defense to defend against Israeli terrorist attacks such as the one today that hit two civilian airfields in Aleppo and Damascus. Helps rebuild the infrastructure US and its proxies destroyed. and so on.

There are so many Jews in Russia that you can speak in Russian language in Israel without a problem.

I don't understand why does America needs "guard dog" in middle east and why does it want destabilization there? Why isn't there a war between America and Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc? Why didn't America destroy them and steal oil instead of paying them billions of dollars and letting them to build one of the greatest countries with modern infrastructure and modern everything? Couldn't America and Iran, Syria, Palestine and some other countries befriend with America and develop as beautiful countries as Saudi Arabia is? I don't understand this part, why is there a war between them instead of partnership where both benefits?


Btw do you know why does Syria and Hamas recognize the independence of Abkhazia and South Oseti? Is that because these countries want a good relationship with Russia and do things in their favor? That's not fair to be honest, they shouldn't be recognizing the independence of Abkhazia and South Oseti because that's not true and everyone knows that. That territory has been a part of Georgia for more than a thousand year and Russians forced Georgian people during the war to leave these two places. Russia started a war to stop our process of joining a NATO because if some parts of your country is occupied, you can't join it.

Holocaust survivor Gina Smyatich, 90, was murdered on October 7 by a Hamas terrorist shot in the back of the head. Her body was discovered in her home in Kibbutz Kisufim, near the very border with Gaza. Based on the angle of the gunshot, it is assumed that the terrorists brought her to her knees and then shot her in the back of the head.



https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1712375565863322012
https://t.me/veraafanasyeva/26695

Hamas must die. Every last one of them. They are not human beings, they have no place on this earth.

Ok, now things are starting to look ugly:


He is not saying this just to let everyone know, right? I guess shit is really going to hit the fan this time.... 

We can analyze this from different perspectives.
-From the Western (mostly American) perspective:
In the post World War 2 era when the winners were "dividing the loot", one place with all the resources was West Asia. To exert power and control they needed a "guard dog" there hence Israel was created. The policy was to give all the help they can to create a strong military force there that stays stronger than everyone else so that they can always have that as a "dog" that attacks them and keeps them weak while also destabilizes the region that would then warrant foreign intervention and presence.
To create this rabid dog, they used the worst of the worst. Despite Israel sometimes being referred to as a "Jewish state" it is actually a "Zionist state". Zionists are the extremists of the Jews with extremely radical ideology.

-From the Zionist perspective:
It's all about Armageddon, end of the world and world domination with these extremists. They had a 3 stage plan throughout history (2000+ years). They've tried this a couple of times and they've always failed, interestingly before they reach their 80'th year. Israel is now 75 years old!
Stage 1: Build Israel, the promised land (anywhere) and gather strength.
Stage 2: Expand. The "between two waters" thing (Nile and Euphrates). Although the coins they made decades ago, maps they released and other intelligence talked about a much bigger plan of expansion that started by occupying Palestine and continued by annexing Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, parts of Turkey, Iraq, parts of Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, ...
Stage 3: "Cleansing the earth". You see the Zionists believe something along the lines of having a pure bloodline (from Jacob, grandson of Abraham) and IIRC they trace it back to Adam and Eve and say that everyone else (that's the entire world that is not a born Zionist) is a demon spawn and needs to either be put down or used as you would use an animal in the farm.
This plan was going well into stage two as they kept defeating the lauded Arab armies quickly and easily.

So this war was never with Palestine. It was between the Zionists and most of West Asia. However, at some point in about 40 years ago the Zionists stopped being able to advance in their neighbors soil and their defeats started piling on. That limited their atrocities to Palestine. For example they had once occupied a couple of their neighbors, like half of Lebanon and the capital was about to fall but as the tables turned (thanks to Iran creating a copy of itself which today the West likes to call it "Iran's proxy" aka Hezbollah) the Zionists were defeated and kicked out.

The recent conflict is only one in a serious of 7.5 decade long genocide against Palestinians and when any people are presented with the choice between elimination or resistance they will chose the later.

Now if we want to look at the most recent history we can see that in the past 4 years the Israeli structure is falling apart as they are getting more radical. For example the cabinet that keeps changing as the prime minister fails and keeps swapping between the worst extremists that not only have been threatening the region's super power, Iran, but also have been increasing their attacks on Palestinians. For example the number of raids on the Al-Aqsa mosque which is a very important Islamic holy place has significantly increased. Their bombings of Gaza and other Palestinian houses in the West Bank has also significantly increased. So was the Palestinian casualties.
This type of "explosion of anger" was expected. All of the members of Hamas that you see have had their family members brutally murdered by Israel, either in their air raids where they bomb their homes or by the hands of their armed soldiers or just by the settlers around Gaza that like shooting them from afar for fun!

Palestinians have tried everything over the years. They tried resisting, then they tried accepting to live side by side and even normalize relations to reach peace. That is the part where some of them sell their lands but it is estimated to be less than 2% of the lands that Israel is now illegally occupying.
As I said the Zionist plan was never to live side by side, their plan was genocide, expansion and world domination. So Palestinians, realizing that went back reality and resisting. Specially after they saw that despite them not fighting anymore, they were still getting killed every day.

As for Jews, they've always lived in the region. After all West Asia is the birthplace of all religions. For example Iran has all religions and each group (eg. Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, etc.) each have a seat in Iran's parliament. All these problems in the post-WW2 era started the day the "foreign Jews" were kicked out of Europe when the war ended and were shipped to West Asia creating the extremist regime of Israel.

Joseph Stalin was georgian but he hasn't done anything in favour of Georgians. And we aren't afraid of Russians, I am just saying that we don't want to become part of their Soviet Union, we prefer to be on our own at best but no one gives us possibility to be on our own but if we have to choose between two bad, Russia and America, we prefer later one because we have been with Russia and don't want to return there.

To be honest, that part of history doesn't matter much today. People forgot that, don't really care about that and I think it's good but our recent past has been with Russia and people can't forget that.
Btw if that part of history looks interesting for you, you can google Battle of Krtsanisi (Georgia vs Qajar Iran) and Battle of Didgori (there are many more but these two are very famous).

Btw you seem to be very educated about the recent history of middle east. I will be really glad and feel respected if you find a time to write down your opinion and situational analyze of why is there a war between Palestine and Israel, just talk about recent history. There are so many rumors, I don't really understand who is guily. As far as I know, historically, jerusalem has been a territory of jewish people and centuries later they managed to buy lands from Arab people and built their country on that land. Now, what's the problem between two?

I don't have much info on the history but I believe those wars were with the radicals who are not particularly Muslims, they just bear the name. The same radicals that Iran fought for centuries too. The same radicals that Iran is still fighting today such as of ISIS aka Da'esh that share their ideology with the al-Saud family ruling over Arabia.

Things would be unpredictable but I believe that if US were to declare war on Iran, the Iran's initial response would targeting the biggest and most significant US bases in a 2000 km radius which are all in the South of Iran (eg. Qatar, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia). The response would also be so massive and harsh that people and governments of any other country in that radius would rush to kick US out of their country themselves.

We witnessed a tiny version of it after January 8, 2020 when Iran dropped a little over a dozen hypersonic ballistic missiles with heavy warheads on two US bases in Iraq and how angry Arab regimes of other countries started contacting US demanding their evacuation in case US wanted to respond, which they couldn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfjxHjs0hKo
https://imadl.ir/Satellite%20imagery/2022/01%20-%20January/Jenuary%208,%202021%20--%20Satellite%20imagery%20and%20Geo-Location%20of%20ballistic%20missiles%20strike%20on%20Ain-al-assad%20base%20EN.jpg

Why are you afraid of Russians, not too long ago single Georgian killed 100 million Russians

Probably also mortars as the Iron Dome reacts to them as well. Mortar shells are very cheap and can easily overwhelm the defensive system.



They must be stupid because it's obviously better the Nazi Germany did not win. The perfect situation for these countries would be liberation by Allied forces and no annexation to the Soviet Union, but out of 2 possible outcomes, I'm pretty sure being part of the CCCP was better than being sent to concentration camps, locked in ghettos and murdered in gas chambers.
Had Stalin died in 1945, Russia would be in a state of chaos and fight for leadership and wouldn't have enough dominance in Potsdam to force its desired borders upon other countries.
Unfortunately, that ideal outcome did not happen.

Historically, Georgia had war with muslims for centuries because they wanted us to change our religion and Georgians were strictly sticking with Christianity. Btw we have good relationships right now with every muslim nation and they don't attack us too.
We have normal relationship with Iran, we import pharmaceuticals, milk powder and some other things from them but the problem is that we and America are strategic partners and there is no way this country is going to give up on NATO, we want to join it to protect ourselves from Russia.

If there is a war between America and Iran, we will be dragged in it. It's true that we aren't their neighbors but the distance between our borders is only 300KM and distance from our capital to Tabriz is 735KM. Since Georgia and America are strategic partners, there is a very high chance that America will store its soldiers or weapons in Georgia and this country will become Iran's target. USA failed to gain control on Armenia and Azerbaijan sticks with Turkey. Turkey is not America's puppet. Georgians purely stick with America, Europe and many Georgians will be more than happy to somehow join Germany I know this sounds funny

Yeah, but what a surprise: nobody gives a damn. It turns out some humans are more worth sympathy than others.


After carpet-bombing Palestine and turning significant part of it into ashes, Israel also shelled Syria:



So, it appears that as long as you suck Uncle Sam's d*ck you can do whatever you want.  

“The violations we documented were committed against the backdrop of Israel's ongoing illegal blockade of Gaza; this blockade is a key component of the apartheid regime established by the Israeli authorities. Palestinians in Gaza are under constant pressure, repressed, oppressed and segregated. Throughout the long 15 years during which the population of Gaza has been practically trapped, illegal attacks have been repeated over and over again, exacerbating the humanitarian crisis. In addition to investigating war crimes committed in Gaza, the ICC must, as part of its ongoing investigation in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, also consider the crime of apartheid, which is a crime against humanity,” Agnes Callamard emphasized.

Quote from the Amnesty International report on war crimes by the Israeli army during the Gaza operation in August 2022.

And right now the whole world is watching as Israel has completely blocked off the Gaza Strip, turning it into a death camp for two million people and launching indiscriminate bombing attacks. This is the most massive genocide of the 21st century. What a shame.

It seems like we agree on more than I imagined except this part.
Georgia is far from Iran and doesn't even have any border with it to be able to start any wars, and Georgia  is already struggling with Russian intervention and the internal multipolarity that exists among the people and domestic power houses.
I'm also not aware of any major issues between the two countries that could lead to any sort of serious conflict.

The proxy wars the West wished to start with Iran was from all 4 sides: with Taliban in the east, Baku+Turkey(NATO) in the North, ISIS in the West, Arabs in the South.

• After Taliban took control they had to actually govern a country, people needed food, infrastructure was destroyed, they needed electricity, etc. So these cavemen realized they could no longer be "crazy" people like before so they betrayed United States and instead of destabilizing the region started an inhouse cleansing to remove the most extreme and are slowly becoming "normal". They've even been fighting with ISIS!
• Baku is too tiny and too insignificant on its own (30 to 50 precision strikes would end its entire military; one base alone in North Western Iranian border with Baku stores 150k loitering munitions) and since NATO is busy with Russia they can't do anything but be a nuisance. Turkey is also still struggling with hyper inflation, a massive budget and foreign reserve deficit and an energy crisis to be able to be a geopolitical player let alone a proxy
• ISIS was dismantled by Iran in Syria and Iraq as it was created so that plan is already failed. Other subsequent revivals and smaller groups were nipped in the bud.
• Arab dictatorships were whipped into submission after Iran started supporting the country they'd invaded 9 years ago and have been committing genocide there (I'm talking about Yemen) so now there is an extremely strong army right at their doorstep from the south east with an unlimited reach that has an unbreakable bond with Iran.

BTW this would all tie together with Israel as this terrorist organization was supposed to attack Iranian infrastructure as all these proxy wars were going on.

I don't know if we agree or disagree but let me tell you my honest opinion that is not just an opinion but the actual truth about Russia's war between Ukraine and my country.
Georgia and Ukraine are just puppet countries, the war is between Russia and the United States, I think we both agree on that. Georgia and Ukraine have been a part of Soviet Union, led by Russia and believe me, people in Soviet Union didn't have access to modern technology that was available during that moment, you couldn't buy good clothes without some connections, you couldn't buy a car or TV if you weren't an authoritative man or weren't a close relative of such one. People and school students were forced to work or they would face jail. I won't continue long, I hope you understand how bad life was there. Then, after the fall of soviet union, borders opened again and people started migration in Europe. Out of curiosity, our people saw that in Europe citizens live amazingly, have great life, modern technology, fun, etc, so, people of Georgia and Ukraine want to leave Russia forever and join the Europe and America for better life.
Now, the problem is that EU and America have their own interests. They want Ukraine to defeat Russia and Georgia to have a proxy war with Iran. Russia wants to build its soviet empire again. Do you understand how bad is the situation for both countries? These two countries have no other choice, being left with Russia means corruption and terrible life while there is a hope of light if we stay with west.

I think I would rather give credit to the Taliban than demeaning the capabilities of USA to achieve their objectives. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was something many were demanding in USA and it was becoming a taxing war which the people was not willing to continue to fund, specially since there was no apparent will of the previous Afghanistan government to secure themselves from Taliban.

It must be said that weapons of mass destruction as those held by United States and other superpowers around the world may not be effective against guerrilla combatants, if anything was taught by the tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, was their effectiveness against civil settlements and innocent population.

But you do realize that there were actually more wars in the past than in the present. In a big reset though maybe the world can recharge its lost energy since there will be fewer humans remaining and let's say everything goes totally back to the past; no electricity, internet, the use of fuel, etc. But there will be wars once against since humans are born greedy, dominating, and power-seeking. Not saying they are perfect because there are some that are even worse but without governments, the UN, etc. there will be more bloodshed and injustices.

Muahaha... you are delusional! Remember what happened in Afghanistan? They can't even defeat a bunch of Afghans armed with sticks and stones and you're talking about a nuclear superpower?  

Meanwhile, a US aircraft carrier strike group has arrived in the eastern Mediterranean Sea. The Pentagon had previously announced that it was moving the carrier Gerald R Ford to Israel to reassure Israelis.

A statement by Gen Michael “Erik” Kurilla of the US central command said:

If by Muslim nations you mean their regimes, then no. Almost all of them have been on the side of the terrorist organization (Israel) instead of Palestine. If you mean their people, then yes. We saw what people think of Zionists in Qatar FIFA World Cup 2022.
Even their regimes' statements in the past couple of days is in a way that they are still standing in the middle instead of showing any support for Palestine even in empty words.

Russia has always been a supporter of Israel, there are large number of Zionist immigrants occupying Palestine that came from Russia. There has been large number of cooperations between Israel and Russia in technology, weapons manufacturing, economy, etc. and Israel has many lobbies and infiltration inside Russia.
The fact that Russian statements are different now is only because Israel has sent help to Ukraine over the past year. Otherwise there is no actual support.

I didn't mean to belittle what's been happening in Ukraine but you have to admit that there is a big leap from war crimes committed by some Russian soldiers and 75 years of systematic genocide by Israel itself.

I can tell that we disagree on some matters like who started the war in Ukraine and why but let me tell you that I am well aware of the brutality of Russians. As a nation we bear that wound too. In WW2 despite being neutral and thousands of kilometers away from their fight, Soviets+Brits+Americans killed more people in my country than Germany lost (~9 million versus 4.8 ) just because we were weak at the time and we had a lot of resources they needed to steal.
Regime change hasn't changed their secular military tactics either. In our fight against ISIS inside Syria when United States was giving air support to ISIS, we needed to tip the balance so we brought Russian air force in, during that time we had countless "frictions" with Russia over their brutal ways as they wanted to simply raise entire villages and cities to the ground just because there may have been a single target to eliminate there.

I'm just quoting this for the future (after "matter of weeks") to laugh another time at this keyboard warrior who has no understanding of the world

In my opinion all the leaders, presidents, kings, prime ministers, government officials of all the nations should go through "a walk of shame" and put in jail for the rest of their lives. This world needs a restart, something along the lines of Noa's flood and the event which killed dinosaurs. If you think about it, things are wrong from the root,  the tree of humanity needs correction, only way to achieve that is to terminate the population and rebuild the civilization  again.

This kind of restart is required every 10 to 12 thousand years. Nothing will change until the source of all evil is dead.

US, ISIS, RU, UK, Israel, Mullas, Nazis, Hitler, Trump, Satoshi, they all are the same ( evil humans ), except the last name.😂

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While you are at it, don't forget to watch 2 kids a day, by David Wachsmann.

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A world where we treat our children like that and nobody says anything about it, yeah it'd be better to restart this world. Starting with goliaths.🤔

Sure, except for the fact that Wagner PMC trained Hamas fighters in Africa on how to use drones to drop small bombs on the enemy.
Where did they learn it?

Hamas and Hezbollah will be destroyed in a matter of weeks.

Israel just destroyed Hezbollah camps in Egypt and Lebanon. The US deployed special forces today to clean up the remaining Hezbollah fighters on Israel's northern border.

Russia is going to get it. Trust me. Americans are pissed as fuck for Iran's and Russia's involvement.

Expect hell to break loose.

BTW, nobody will be doing any negotiations with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or Russia. The time for talking is over.

Currently, Chuck Schumer, leader of the Democratic majority in the US Senate, is on an official visit to China; yesterday he met with Xi. Came to arrange for Xi to visit San Francisco in November. Relatively recently, Blinken also was in China. By your logic, does this mean that China supports the US and that the US supports China?

Russia does not support either side of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, but has diplomatic contacts with representatives of both sides. This is normal. When Zelensky wants to end the conflict with Russia, taking into account the real state of affairs, Russia will be ready to listen to him carefully. Or does Ukraine still hope to win?

Hamas visited the Kremlin several times to discuss the current operation. Russia was involved, and so was Iran.

Ismail Haniyeh met with Lavrov in Sept. 2022 to discuss a high-level plan for this current distraction.

Saleh Al-Arouri met with Lavrov and the RF military in March 2023 to finalize the details.

Google it first before you open your mouth.

How is that May 9th, 2022 victory parade in Kyiv coming along? Still dreaming about it?

Muslim nation supports muslim nation, isn't it so? The world is changing, Saudi Arabia and UAE want to join BRICS, US is losing dominance and there are rumors that Russia supports the war because America will prioritize Israel over Ukraine, it's a win for Russia and for Muslim world and both of them have one enemy, the United States Of America.

I bet my satoshis, you must be from middle east. I spent my one hour in reading your posts and you know the history and situation in middle east like no one. But you are so wrong when you talk about Russia. Russia invaded my country and brutally killed many people here. They were playing football with the heads of our soldiers, they made a mother of soldier to eat an eye of her son, this happened in 2008.

No, that's not double standard, that's what we are told by western media, that's how they represent it to us.

Believe it or not, many people from post-soviet countries hate Russia so much that if you ask them, they wish Germany had won the war because now we would be as developed as them and would live the same life. <-- This is not my argument or opinion, I just express how many people from post-soviet countries think. This means something, this shows you why Ukraine doesn't want Russia and fights to join Europe.

The apartheid regime of Israel is well known in the world as Child Murderers. For years they have been trying to shake this well deserved brand but have been failing because they keep murdering Palestinian children. The vague statement @light_warrior reposted here is a propaganda released by the Child Murderers to try and distract the public from their violations against Children. Interestingly enough there is absolutely no picture of this supposedly 40 children anywhere including the DailyMail which is the source!!!
Meanwhile with a simple google search you will find the pictures of the Children the Israeli terrorists murdered a couple of hours ago. That is despite the reporters that the Israelis have killed in the past couple of days, the internet and electricity they have cut off, etc. to prevent the news from coming out of Gaza.

That is disturbing and completely inhumane...
However, since this is a conflict which has already been plagued with disinformation and fake news, I would encourage you to share the original source your are quoting or referring to.

We are not supposed to alledge such horrible war crimes by neither side if we do not provide the webpage or news media where we got that from, it would only serve to increase the biases towards one side and if we started to talk about those allegations without providing sources, we will only make people more prone to believe whatever they read on internet, even propaganda by Hamas.

I just read that 40 (!) dead children were found in the Israeli settlement of Kfar Aza. Some had their heads cut off (!). Hamas, damn you. May those who support these subhumans and scum be damned. Hamas must be wiped off the face of the earth. They have no right to live. All of them to the knife, to the gallows.

They use a combination of a couple of tactics to overwhelm the enemy, apart from the launching of large number of projectiles, drones are also used to hunt down the defense batteries and radars directly and at the same time a large scale cyber attack is perform against the entire cyber infrastructure of the Zionist regime that includes the air defense (radars, Iron Dome, David's sling, etc) to disable or disrupt them.

Gone are the days that all Palestinians had against the heavily armored enemies were stones.

A single missile costs $100k Hamas rockets are much cheaper. They use cheap Qassam rockets that can be manufactured with basic tools and cost less than $1k.
They also buy old Soviet Katyusha rockets and newer Grad and some modern ones supplied by Iran.

Each Iron Dome battery has 20 missiles loaded and needs time to reload.
According to Wikipedia Israelis have between 10 and 15 batteries deployed.

This means that at most, with full capacity and 100% accuracy, the system can stop 300 missiles.

Hamas claims to have launched 5000, but other sources say 2000 unguided rockets. There was no way to stop that many, which is why they launched all at once. They knew it would overpower the defense system.

It's not about how significant the country might seem. It's how significant the allies of those countries are. Left to face off, Israel would "wipe Palestine off the map" but why haven't they done that since? They've been doing whatever they want to Palestine.

When Ukraine stood up to Russia people said the same thing but here we are today months later and the war is still on and Russia has not been able to successfully take over Ukraine.


They're fighting for what they believe in. You don't expect them to just sit down and watch while a superior power wipes them off the face of the earth.
To them, they're fighting for their freedom. It always seems impossible until it's done.

Secondly, for to be able to rise against Israel it means they must have been getting support somewhere. The motive of the people supporting them may be does not matter to them.

Where is there any proof in the article to support that claim?


Because it's in their interest! They don't want US to supply weapons to Ukraine, so they will spread these rumors to decrease public support.
Further in the article they even say that these weapons could be the ones left behind by US forces.

Problem with Israel is that they can win 1000 wars, but lose only 1

Yes, I agree it's completely pointless if you think logically. But that's exactly why I'm suspicious. If a conflict makes no sense it normally means that someone or something is creating and supporting it artificially.

Could you please provide a source for such a bold claim?


They can create pretty much anything but the question is whether they can afford it and whether the US can afford it. If I'm not mistaken, most components (including rockets) of the Iron Dome were provided by the US.

Modern warfare is changing, you can be surprisingly efficient with low budget and poorly equipped. Ukraine showed it with cheap drones vs Russian fighter jets, unmanned boats vs rocket cruisers, ATGMs vs tanks etc etc etc.... And Hamas has got very motivated fighters, much more aggressive and fearless than Israeli conscripts. So I wouldn't say that this "victory" will come easy.  

What I’ve seen so far is horrific, so many lives lost on both sides. It’s really horrible that this is happening, I just hope a resolution can be found quickly & peace can be brokered. It was on the news this morning that even in London, there has been attacks on Jewish businesses, with anti-sematic murmurings. I just hope this isn’t all false flag narratives to profit from war.

^^^
That is easily debunkable.

* There is population concentration but if you look up Gaza on google maps you'll see that there is also large unpopulated areas. Many of which are covered with trees (inaccurate use of the word "jungle" by me) like this screenshot from North Eastern Gaza without any tall apartments in sight for the terrorists to bomb:


* You can compare google maps with some of the videos I mentioned above from all these years where there is a face off and see that every time there is a rocket launch, it clearly is from an open area without any tall buildings in sight. You can also see the cover of trees used to hide the positions in some videos. Examples:
Rocket barrage system Rojum in the middle of "jungle":

Palestinian "air defense" brigade shooting down an Israeli helicopter from the middle of "jungle":


* The past 4 days has been mainly a land attack not a rocket attack like previous battles; this means majority of Palestinian forces are already on the front line and inside the occupied land, not in Gaza itself to be hit by any air raids when the terrorists bomb apartments!

* Israeli terrorists are mainly using precision strikes so even claiming or inferring it is a "mistake" is outright false.

* The targets which these terrorist are hitting with their fighter jets are civilian, many of which are too obvious to be civilian like the schools built and controlled by United Nations (UNRWA), hospitals as I mentioned earlier too, the press building, even ambulances in middle of the roads!

Yep. However, I must note that the recent statement by the Israeli Minister of Defense and the subsequent actions of the IDF can be qualified as genocide of the Palestinian people and the dehumanization of the image of the enemy, characteristic of the Nazis.



It is a shame that decision-makers in Israel so quickly forgot the lessons of history. I think the entire Netanyahu government should immediately resign as a disgrace to its people and unsuitable for its profession.

Its not strange, as if they would take all the land, they should give everyone Israeli citizenship. They want them cleansed from that area
before they take land


Not true, for pure logistical reasons...Gaza is so small and overpopulated that anywhere you shoot from, its "civilian area", there's very few open spaces and surely not any "jungle"

At roughly 140 square miles, the Gaza Strip is just over twice the size of Washington, D.C., but has triple the population.

There isn't really anything new here though. US has been sending billions of dollars of American taxpayers money to Israel for as long as it existed (ie. after its artificial creation in post WW2).

Sometimes the choices you have are to either sit back and let the genocide continue until nothing is left of you, your family and your race or you try something and hope to win.
BTW Israel doesn't murder women and children to "hit a few combatants", the armed Palestinians aren't even in their vicinity to be killed in such airstrikes. The Zionist terrorists murder children to discourage the resistance at the front from advancing.

This is also clear from the videos where we see the Palestinian resistance launching their rockets. The locations are always an open space, jungle, desert, etc. You never see any buildings anywhere close.
However when Israel uses the US donated bombers, they are always bombing civilian buildings and schools like the UN school they bombed murdering dozens of children and hospitals like the International Eye Hospital in Gaza 2 days ago.

More like dozens and it is a rocket defense not a missile defense.
This was also mainly a ground assault not like before which was solely a rocket attack from afar. This is why Gaza size is now doubled as they have already liberated nearly the same size around the strip and last I checked they are close to opening a route to the West Bank (the remaining Palestine) which would effectively surround the occupiers from 3 sides.

This is a pointless conflict. Hamas can never win, and Israel can only kill more innocents just to try to hit a few combatants.
I guess the only ones who win are arm dealers. Palestine can never work as a country, what the UN has on paper is a bad joke designed to never ever work. In practice, it is the rule of Israel, but Israel is doing something strange, they didn't finish conquering the place and kept those sort of open prison / ghettos to shoot at like fish in a barrel every so often.

So Hamas kept quiet, piled a bunch of rockets then launched them all at the same time, they got some people in Israel, then what? Can they take Jerusalem or some other city? They can't so what was the point of this? Avenge martyrs creating more martyrs? Israel as usual will just carpet bomb that strip and other spots. Last time i remember they used that internationally banned chemical weapon called white phosphor (just like Russia did in Ukraine), they even killed their own soldiers in their overpowered operations, but still didn't achieve the objective to "disarm/eliminate" all combatants.

Iron Dome was probably designed for hundreds but not thousands of missiles. They can make a better system able to deal with thousands and the opposition will try ten thousand, it never ends. Actually, you can add drones now. Israel has way more military power than several other much larger countries, this is why any sort of "response" ends demolishing buildings and killing thousands of civilians.

After yet another mountain of corpses, Hamas will stop, because most of them end killed or just ran out of ammo. Israel on the other hand, can keep going, and going and going but will stop only after they see no more attacks (for the aforementioned reason) and declare it another "victory"...

That land is not worth it. Some people want to paint it religiously but it really isn't. It might sound surprising but the Zionist project is in fact political and its original proposal even had two alternative locations. Jerusalem may be contested by Abrahamic religions but not the rest of the country, and religious people would probably not care who rules as long as they are allowed their rites in peace with each other.

If you are on telegram you can see tons of uncensored videos with this nonsense carnage.

I saw it on BBC that US are sending what would help Isreal in defense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67049196.amp
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67050350?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6524607efd63b979e1accddd%26Pentagon%20briefing%3A%20US%20warships%20and%20munitions%20en%20route%20to%20Israel%262023-10-09T20%3A43%3A15.865Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:73e99722-3330-4ed6-996b-6787b14382ba&pinned_post_asset_id=6524607efd63b979e1accddd&pinned_post_type=share


The influence that Palestine will have would be from Muslim countries like Iran: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets-attack-palestinians/card/hamas-says-attacks-on-israel-were-backed-by-iran-kb2ySPwSyBrYpQVUPyM9

Russians are main Christians and Isreal will have more influence in Christian countries. Although, Isreal are Jews but in reality, the Christian countries will prefer to support them. Muslim countries are the ones backing Palestine, I guess.

Although Russia has always been neutral about the conflict between Isreal and Palestine.

Exactly, this OP just want to stir up things with no actual proof or basis, there's nothing like that (as of now?). Well, some are arguing it could be Iran that supports these militants but Iran deny the allegations.

Technically and officially he is a Zionist.

In other news the Zionist terrorists cut off Gaza strip's water and electricity before they started carpet bombing civilians. Meanwhile the Lebanon #resistance seems to have entered this war from the Northern front and has already attacked a handful of Zionist positions in northmost parts of occupied Palestine.

On the other hand the only involvement US has had so far in this conflict was a C-17 sent to the terrorist organization with arms and the USS Liberty, I mean USS Ford just "hanging around"...

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As I was typing the most interesting thing popped up on my screen. Yemenis #resistance just threatened United States that if they enter this conflict they will attack all Israeli and US positions. You know what the significance of it is? Yemen is the poorest Arab country that has been under a full scale invasion by the US-Arab coalition for the past 9 years and it is located at a 2000 km distance!!! 'nough said

So let me paint a little picture about your title even though everything is changing real fast and predictions at times like this is tough:
If US regime decides not to heed the threat and goes rogue, the entire Middle East will turn into a hellhole for all US assets and anybody who stands near them. As the former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer captain Ritter once said "[US military] is going to be dominated in a way they've never been dominated before".
That also means oil and gas prices to the moon.
That means Suez canal shuts down.
That means Europe's main trade route is shut down for at least a year
That means all import/exports will have to go around the entire African continent, face attacks from #resistance (the African branch) and face the worse sea conditions all of which would skyrocket price of everything across EU...

Even funnier fact - Zelensky himself is a jew. 

Regarding EU and von der Leyen: they were forced to say that as both China and Russia released official statements urging to stop the bloodbath. So what else EU as a good Washington's lap dog could say?   

Meanwhile, US weapons provided as a military support to Ukraine ended up in hands of Hamas fighters: https://sputniknews.in/20231009/from-ukraine--afghanistan-to-middle-east-how-us-arms-ended-up-in-hamas-hands-4693015.html

Russia portrays Ukrainians as Neo-Nazi and itself as the liberator who murdered German Nazis in WWII, who tried to exterminate Jews.
Now Russians murder their brethren Ukrainians, who were part of the same Anti-Nazi Soviet force 35 years ago, because according to Russia, they're also Nazis. Moreover Russia supports Palestine against the same Jews it was fighting to save. Politics can really be confusing.

Also, why the fuck is Jewish army called Israeli Defense Force if all they do is attack neighboring territories and expand the borders?

Russia is just trying to play the field, putting pressure on US proxy in the region to put pressure on US. This caricature shows how Russia is seeing the situation better than I can explain: https://www.talkimg.com/image/RZ5Vv

That's becaue majority of the people in the world do not know the difference between Semites, Jews and Zionists. If I wanted to put it in one sentence while simplifying it: the relationship between Semites > Jews > Zionists is like the relationship between Middle Easterners > Muslims > ISIS.

The biggest crimes the Zionist fraction has committed is actually against Semites and Jews. This is why many Jews are against Israel and burn its flag. Examples from London and New York.

Thanks for raising this matter BTW.

I find it interesting that Russia, who itself is an invader murdering civilians and bombing cities, supports another country that is currently being oppressed. When we lay siege, that's fine, but when another country does the same, we're against it. Freedom for the oppressed!


Mentioning a Jewish lobby in the US is called antisemitism by Jews. This reads like a joke but isn't.
According to them they have no influence in politics and such and the fact that a large part of TV and the whole movie-making and entertainment industry in the US is owned by Jews has nothing to do with that.


EU going against Israel and it's big brother USA? Not going to happen. When Israel took Jerusalem all the world did was condemn its actions.

that's why it's hard to sympathize Palestine with for whatever reason. they do have tons of reasons but with this act, Israel is not going to let this slide.

but the conflict already worsened since the neighboring countries who are the usual enemies of Israel like Lebanon are already going in to join this war.

"Israel targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with the clear aim to cut off men, women, children from water, electricity, and heating with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror and we have to call it as such,"  EU's von der Leyen said.

Turkey's Erdogan said all territories taken from Palestine (West Bank, Eastern Jerusalem) should be returned to them by Israel:


According to the Turkish president, reinstating the borders to where they were in 1967 is a crucial step to peace in the region.

This is a big threat to the world, it is natural that the two superpowers will fuel all kinds of wars, as a result of which the world situation will not only worsen, but the situation will worsen The United States took direct sides because the United States dreamed of establishing the State of Israel and through Belfo research was able to establish the State of Israel and Israel Who is using it to carry out all kinds of criminal activities because Israel, known as the arm of the US in the Middle East, has done many injustices by this state and now the US is in the Middle East Can't hold their influence now those who are attacking them deserve it. The purpose of saying this is not to blame anyone.If this war turns into a war in the region, the world will be in for an even more horrific scene as the oil in the region solves most of the world's energy crisis when When a war breaks out, all marketing activities of oil production will stop and oil is a resource more valuable than gold because it is possible to control the whole world with oil It is possible to carry out any activities without oil at present, therefore, to worsen the world situation, now both sides or the superpowers will try to make the war more stable by providing various assistance, here is the US It is natural that the US will want to return to their previous positions so that they can control and Russia will interfere in all US activities in retaliation The Western world has all kinds of plans to prolong the war so that the war will not end so easily and the response that Palestine has given is what they deserve. There is no wrong decision here. When Israel carries out mass killings, there is no one to speak out, but when Hamas launches a major attack, leaders around the world do not hesitate to speak in a variety of ways, suggesting that killing their own people is set But if there are others, then it is beautiful outside and happy inside Here one thing is clear that their defense system is weak which will further their danger The big bad news should convince them that there is someone above them in technology.The reason for saying this is that if I don't say them, I don't have any difficulty in explaining the matter. Therefore, it is necessary to know the correct information first. The last thing is that the world situation will turn very bad. It is certain that Turkey, Iran, etc. Taking a stand for Hamas and attacking from Jordan and this three-pronged attack Israel will not be able to deal with it will need help and whenever help comes the war will be on a larger scale so the world I think it reaches the maximum bad position.

In regards to the bolded part, once the spiritual defense or shield is weakened there is nothing much the physical defense can do. It's obvious the defense will be penetrated due to the hardened rebels within, pm unfairly worked against a vulnerable Russian ally/country that was protected like himself, and he sought support from the weak leadership in Babylon.

You think Russia is taking side in the conflict? I haven't seen that yet.

In regards to whether the conflict will escalate the world's problems, it depends on how many countries/people wrongly participate in it

Some analysts are starting to compare things with the 1970's situation (1973-ish) where the oil price went from about $3-$4 up to $12-$15 which is about 4x rise!

Meanwhile United States has not yet dared enter this conflict despite having a large force in the region (like the Ford Carrier Strike Group in Eastern Mediterranean or baes in Syria, Jordan, Iraq, etc.) simply because the Resistance threatened to wipe out all their bases in Middle East.
We have to wait and see if the Zionist lobby infestation in United States is going to be able to push them into making this stupid mistake and the scale of the response so we can see if there is a possibility to say hello to $400-$500 per oil barrel...

P.S. I wonder if Israel is going to sink another US Navy ship like USS Liberty in '67 lol

Good point, I guess it's "double standards" as always.

Meanwhile, oil prices reacted to the news exactly as I predicted:


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets-attack-palestinians/card/oil-futures-surge-on-concern-israel-hamas-conflict-to-escalate-vrWPAJ6xNvZARrQfbQYl

There are reports of some airstrikes by Israeli airforce on the residential areas in Gaza, as a result 436 civilians, including 91 children reported dead.

What do you mean by "participate"? Just because they made a statement out of fear it doesn't mean they are participating in anything. Both Saudi and UAE dictators know very well that the country they invaded in the past 9 years called Yemen is now capable of bombing them back to stone age and Yemen supports Palestinian struggle for freedom. They have to make these statements because they know that Yemen has legitimate cause to attack them (as they are the invaders and haven't yet fully left the Yemeni's soil).

I wonder if anybody dares call people of Ukraine terrorists?
After all Ukrainians are doing the same thing as Palestinians do, they've picked up arms and are attacking the invaders who are occupying their homes.
Although the difference is that Russia is only occupying Ukraine while Zionists are committing genocide in Palestine...

Thats the sad part. Ive heard that Israel Prime Minister announced on TV that they will heavily bombard and attack Gaza area so giving warning to civilian that they attack everywhere to flush out the Palestine terrorist. Yes they may have been attacked first but having said this? Does he not care about the Civilian being dragged by this? Also on the otherside some personality or innocent people been kidnapped and killed. Oh Boy, hope someone could stop this madness by them. No ones gonna lose on both sides but only the civilian being caught by the war.

Depends whom you ask, some will tell you Palestine is not an actual country. It is rather a local or regional war, but with very significant international repercutions.
I would not expect to see an end on this conflict in my life time, to be honest, it has been decades of death, occupation of territory and disregard of human rights.

The worst part is the fact there is innocent people stuck in the Gaza strip without a chance to live a normal life, because all this insane situation, people who have nothing to do politically with this conflict.

With what we've seen the casualties from these wars are really not going to be good for all of us. Some may benefit but majority of us won't.

Emotionally, when we just hear the word 'war' and it actually happens, what we're thinking about is the effects of the first war that has happened with Ukraine and Russia. Although there are better resources there that's being exported worldwide.

The thought that we're having emotionally will certainly affect many of us. While there will be folks that won't care about it because it's not near to them.

Who are having anxiety about all of these wars? Whether it's with Ukraine and Russia or Israel and Palestine?

And to those that haven't heard yet the news, watch the video made by WSJ on YouTube. It's short and precise on how it started.

Plot twist: Saudi Arabia and UAE as Arab states take the side of Palestine and start to actively participate in the conflict. Taking into account they're cutting their ties to the US and leaning towards Russia it's entirely possible. What is going to happen then?

Nah, the Globe will just be fine. Neither Israel nor Palestine hold a huge chunk of oil or gas resources as compared to the likes of Russia, Saudi Arabia or the UAE. So how exactly is their conflict going to affect the oil or gas prices. The conflict has been on going since before i was born so there's nothing new here. Just same old same.

True, but not limited to this. Other countries in the region may get involved as well and then their economies will be affected too. Some candidates are: Lebanon, Iran and Egypt. But there are other potential allies of each side of the conflict.


Exactly, this is pretty obvious. But I don't think we can expect any official statement on this by Russia.  

Ive seen some reports that US mighy help or provide support for Israel country however Im not sure of the latter cause this might trigger a bigger if its true since those two Super country are indeed hate each other. I do hope the ongoing war can be stopped but judging from casualties probably both sides wouldnt stop. Its sads that some foreign countries are being affected on this war.

According to Wikipedia Israel suppliers diamonds, refined petroleum, pharmaceuticals, machinery and equipment, medical instruments, computer hardware and software, agricultural products, chemicals, textiles and apparel.While Palestine exports olives, fruit, vegetables, limestone, citrus, flowers, textiles.

This war will hinder the production and distribution of these goods which will lead to an increase in price. The economy of trading partners of both Israel and Palestine will be negatively affected. This war will also lead to mass refugee crises leading to mass immigration. The economy of neighboring countries will be affected because of pressure on basic infrastructure and an increase in government spending. Allies of both parties will have to use money that would have been invested in key sectors to sponsor this war, which will lead to slow global economic growth. We can't also quantify the loss of human resources. Skilled people that would have contributed to global economy might die or become disabled due to life-threatening injuries.

There are some speculations that Hamas wouldn't have carried out this kind of successful assault without external support. Some political analysts believe Russia might be one of the backers of Hamas. They are assuming that with a war in Israel, US and NATO's attention will be divided meaning that Ukraine will not get the needed support. It's normal to see your enemy suffer defeat, it is not strange to see Russia mock Israel.

To be honest, I believe this conflict can only add negative point towards the currently geopolitics we are witnessing around us.

It is obvious the United States was going to continue to be supportive of Israel, but I was not aware or well informed on the Russian support some Palestinian groups are allegedly getting from Putin.

I have read a bit about this conflict and this attack which happened yesterday, and I must admit the images that emerged from news are quite disturbing and heartbreaking. It seems like peace won't even exist there...

Past week alone was filled with assaults such as the one I explained and the Arabic media is filled with news of it and the anger of people's from different countries condemning these atrocities and the Palestinian resistance warning the Zionist extremists of a retaliation. But of course the heavily censored Western media only covers the story from right after the retaliation portraying it as if the Palestinian resistance is the starter and the extremist occupiers are the oppressed!

One good thing about this forum is that despite being US based it does not follow the US censorship enforcements. Possibly because discussions here do not get the same amount of traffic like other places such as reddit, twitter, etc. get. Like this topic that has only gotten 90+ views. So the "choke acts" that US regime tends to issue in cases like this do not apply here

Russia do not support Hamas. It is Iran, which support Hamas movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations - Following their first meeting in October 2021, Bennett described Putin as a "true friend of the Jewish people", noting that he and Putin discussed "ways to deal with Islamic fundamentalism".

The region has always been sensitive over the years. And I guess the conflict will grow more extensive as the Israelis will indeed search and attack Hamas bases while the latter will continue their full-scale attacks. What is sad are the innocent civilians suffering from both sides.

Of course, the conflict will have an effect although it might not be that big. Palestine and Israeli trade will be affected but in a worst-case scenario, there might be some alternatives to their products and services.

So are you telling me a racist, illegitimate totalitarian, genocidal state is worried about "innocent" "civilians"?
Maybe if you were their prime minister we could have had some entertainment on a daily basis, because you are funny. Zionists are the most brutal and merciless faction in judaism.

I was not aware of this incident, but I think it might not be the main reason or might be I can not say for confirmation because many incidents occurred at Al-Aqsa Mosque, and many Muslims were assaulted there for no reason. I don't want to show my feelings here but I have one word for the whole scenario is that.

The media is showing what he has not to, governments will join those, from which they will have more benefits. Either they are Russia or the US.

I have watched many videos of the attacks from both sides on TikTok because such videos are deleted by the media in no time, I when read the title of this topic, I thought it would also be deleted from here, but I came here to know what members of this forum have to say about this incident. I was also in doubt about the number of missiles thanks for the confirmation.

Russia does not support Hamas, although it does not classify it as a terrorist organization and considers the leaders of its political wing to be legitimate partners for negotiations (at the same time, the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas spun off in 1987, is considered a terrorist organization in Russia). It can be assumed that Russia's sympathies are on the side of the Palestinian people, but there is no need to draw far-reaching political conclusions from this.

Russia is a multinational secular state and any radical religious manifestations are unacceptable for it.

Perhaps you can elaborate more on this statement? Why do you think it's not true? It's pretty clear that US is on the Israeli side. You can google and find lots of sources supporting this claim. If I'm not mistaken, there was even an official statement by the US military. Ukraine and Zelensky also commented on this, saying something like "Israel has a right to defend itself".

As to Russia's support of Hamas, I haven't seen any official statements by the Kremlin so far and I have limited access to Russian media but some sources claim that Russians are ridiculing Israel's defensive efforts and are happy to distract US's attention from Ukraine. Iran-backed Hamas seems to get more support from Russia for political reasons.

It is not a (re)emerging conflict, it is an ongoing conflict for the past almost 80 years that Palestine has been occupied. It's just making a lot of noise in the media because over the past 24 hours, it has been the Palestinian resistance that is hitting back and not the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel.

For example if you search the entire Western or Russian media you will not find anything regarding the IDF terrorist raiding the Al-Aqsa Mosque 48+ hours ago, brutally beat the women praying there, rip off their cloths assaulting them. In other words the main reason why the Palestinians rose up and started feeing their cities one at a time.

Only in the initial phase 5000 rockets were launched in 20 minutes ie. ~4 rockets/sec
The number of missiles launched was smaller.

Was traveling, but I heard about this thing.  Bitchute search is down (again) so my go-to for non-Zionist-curated quick-checks of reality is limited.

My very first thought with the 'news' about dastardly Muslims paragliding in guns blazing is that it sounds exactly like one would expect from the Hollywood Kabbalists who run most of the world's perception of reality (95% of the goyim and 90% of the 'Jews' who tend not to be quite as gullible for whatever set of reasons).  The view-bite clips I've seen so far also look quite on the fakish side.  I guess we'll just have to what the real story is with time.

If only the attacks carried out by Hamas against Israel could lead to total war. Maybe this will have an impact on the global economy. Because until now the conflict between Israel and Palestine has not reached the stage of total war. So there is no significant impact from the feud between the two countries. Because Israel's colonization of Palestine was carried out very slowly and did not immediately colonize Palestine completely. I don't know what the reason is, but what is certain is that there is something we don't know about this. Because if you look at the military strength that Israel has and compare it with the military strength that Palestine has, the difference in military strength between the two countries is very large.

Year 2023
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.detik.com/sulsel/berita/d-6503707/100-ranking-militer-dunia-2023-indonesia-urutan-berapa/amp

It be seen that Israel military strength is currently ranked 18th in the world.
So in essence, if you look at its military strength, Israel can actually control the Palestinian state in total. The reason is that the military strength possessed by Palestine is not comparable to that of Israel. But perhaps for some reason Israel did not do that.

And the conclusion that I can draw from the Israeli and Palestinian conflict is that it can indeed affect the state of the global economy. However, this depends on the scale of the war taking place in the two countries.

Because innocent civilians would get caught in the crossfire.

I don’t know about worsening the global economic situation. The added pressure of another war will more likely force the Fed to lower rates and the Government to begin issuing stimulus in order to keep this from sending us into a deep recession. Fighting a war on two fronts is going to really put our currency to the test. In other words, we are so screwed, but war spending will allow us to kick the can further down the road again.

So, one has to wonder, if they are so powerful, why haven't they wiped the arabs off the map after 60 years of conflict? What do you think is keeping Palestine from total destruction?  If it's not a war then what is it, cat chasing mouse?

This particular update is not true, be sure of what you are saying not to mislead people.

If you want to determine whether a war affects the global economy, examine a few things -- One being the GDP of involved countries, two being the total import and export products/volumes, and three being geographical locations (whether the country's near shipping corridors or critical airspace for flight logistics).

And so with that, it shouldn't pose that large of a threat. Israel has a high GDP, Palestine does not. And Israel could effectively wipe Palestine off the map if they wish.

Israel's calling this a "war" for PR purposes and to rally countries around them. Is it really a war when one side is so outmatched?

Initially the Palestinian military group Hamas have launched ground operation from Gaza Strip. The country is full of Siren sounds and the attack is a complete surprise for the Israeli security forces. Hamas had purposely started the fight and entered the Gaza Israel border. There is no sign of peace as the Hamas Military commander have called Palestinians to launch attack. For some time period the people of the countries were leading peaceful life and once again it had started and the impact can soon be seen on the whole will worsen the crisis.

Latest news from Palestine, Israel and the Gaza strip: Hamas fighters attacked Israeli territories, towns and even captured a military base with all the armored vehicles and arms. Hamas fired more than 2200 missiles and the legendary Iron Dome failed to protect Israel with many missiles getting through and exploding in the streets. Lots of people were kidnapped, some executed. The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.   

Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?