Topic: Can Religion be Used as Coin Campaign? (Read 344 times)

One important thing we need to know is that Zugacoin is owned by Bishop Samzuga. This gives a view of genuiness in using it in church and other markets. So the church can put a stop to Bitcoin corruption and scamming .

Previous elections has proving that religion is an instrument or a tool to campaign for election.

During election campaigns period ,the politicians make use of religious rulers, clergy men to campaign ,where a pastor or an imam with huge congregations and alot of branches nationwide will invite the politicians to their place of worship and influence it members to vote for them ,then instruct all the district pastors or imam to canverse for the politicians, this can be success because many people see their religious rulers as been perfect and men of God who knows best, as so they can easily convince their members to vote their choice as men of God,rulers with populated members ,also popularly known and respected.
Ignorance makes this member do as their clergy men as instructed not considering their own personal choice of interest or say.

Well I won't agree with you on that, because most of the members in d church are not too knowledge able about Crypto-Currency and when u start campaign it some will join blindly not knowing the total details of what they are about to do. If any crash comes up or the value of the coin is dropped, and they didn't make profit the members will think u have defrauded them.

That aside one should not bring up business in the church of God. The church should be sacrosanct and be used only for the worship of God like Jesus pointed out in the scripture that his father's house should be a home of prayer and not of business

The biblical reference to money was made by Jesus who referred to the two sides of the Roman coin that contains the face of the Roman king. Coins-based economies were precious treasures with an affordable standard of living among individuals in societies. What seems to be different is the visibility and touchable nature of a room on the one hand and the non-touchable nature on the other. A simple question to ask is: what is the visible proof of money in the bank account and a coin in a wallet. If a person can develop trust about money in the bank, the same person should trust the visibility of a coin in a wallet.

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When say religion we should know the basic understanding of the ideas of the presenter, actually the question should go back this way. Does or can fiat currency used as money for campaign? So what ever is the results belong is automatically were Bitcoin belongs, so their is no misconception or misunderstanding towards the scenario as illustration. Because it's very obvious that the connection between religion and Bitcoin is differ with elongation of distance.

True, I think it's very far for them to have a connection.
Religion is a different thing to talk about especially if you can relate it to Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies.
There are lot of people these days are fighting for their religion which is for me is very non sense, look how toxic those people and now involvement of cryptocurrency with religion, I can't imagine it.

I don't see religion and bitcoin to have anything or any connection,  using religion to make awareness about bitcoin is big deviation which is supposed to take place. Let religion be religion and let it serves it purpose only. Bitcoin can still get awareness without religion,  I don't think this is a good idea.

The scene you alluded to here has nothing to do with investment. It was Jesus' way of showing the need for taxation in the system. Even as that is, most christians would rather tithe than pay tax to constituent authority. That's wrong, anyway. Answering your question, I don't think religion should be used as coin campaign. That will be mixing religion with business or economics. I've had cases where I stayed out of investments simply because owners tilted it with religion. My reason being that they will mess it up with emotion. Most people in religion are bias and will take decisions based on emotions instead of on fact.

Bitcoin is a technological innovation. As such it generates interest as vehicle for quick profit (such is the case of majority of members here), followed by EGO of earlier adopters. Those along with minority of technocrats present sometimes "fetishizes" this technology to the point of obssesion. But that doesnt make it religion. Fashion? Perhaps.

Same thing happened back in the day during dot.com boom, before that to personal computer boom, to firearms boom. Etc. etc.

All of these people above will one day move to the next big thing or just will get old  Wink

Now, organized religion is something entirely different as it is not based around material possesions or avalaible technical equipment. Religion dictates upon indvidual strict belief system, that molds him into part of a community, something greater, that endures time and conflicts.

Bitcoin for the time being can complement religion XY as useful tool and vice versa. But those two are and will be separate things as they appeal to different parts of human psyche.

Are you aware that there are a lot of Cristhians who have the mentality that cryptocurrency and most of the Electronic Banking system of this generation is the mark of the beast (have you heard of Christianity in Nigeria before?)? Some ministers even preach against it and have been successful in filling the minds of their members with cryptocurrency's ridiculous myths. How then could these people be appealed to to consider cryptocurrency by same ministers who have told them evil things about it.


I'm afraid we can't use this scenario to support this argument. The currency Jesus made reference to was then used and accepted by everyone, it's a currency that was legally approved. But in the case of cryptocurrency, many countries have not approved it, some are even hunting their citizens that are involved with cryotocurrency. So, there's no way religion (church) can bridge the gap that's been described in this thread when governmental body hasn't approved it.
Remember the scripture says in the Book of Romans 13:1 that:
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
The NKJV name this chapter "Obey the Government"; I want to believe that the scripture is self explanatory. With this point in view, how can a church campaign for what it's government has disapproved (yet to approve)?

Bitcoin and religion has nothing to do with each other. Today, most clerics and priests have strayed from the teachings of Christ of whom they claim to follow. In my opinion, these clerics and religious establishments have lost the credibility to tell me what is and not good.
Religion should stick to the business of robbing people in the name of God.
Any religious establishment advocating for the use of bitcoin probably accepts bitcoin for offerings and donations, meant for God of course.

You know, if this uses religion to convince people and do some promotions. it will not happen in my country and religion. Because it is considered haram (forbidden). How can soemthng that is forbidden help with certain campaigns to ensure people are aware more of BItcoin or cryptocurrency?
But, I don't know if in the other religions.
And I think that we cannot use religion for this certain the campaign or similar interests. There are some limits to that we can involve religion with something.

You have said it all, thanks for your understanding.

It's too bad to carry a religious name for Bitcoin. If there is probably most of them are fraudsters who attract people through religion. I don't think a true religious person would do that. Religion deals with god, if anyone preaches religion and promotes about coins then I will leave the room immediately.   
I wouldn't agree religion can be mixed with bitcoin. Many people can create images and symbols as the author speaks. But the number form of banks and crypto is a deal that has been trusted therefore they have value.

I wouldn't say Bitcoin is a religion on it's own just because Bitcoiners have their own beliefs. If anything, it's the total opposite of a religion — Bitcoiners want their money to be leaderless and without a supreme entity that controls/oversees it.

Religion preach generally about things like wealth, thanks giving and money. So Bitcoin falls in between them just like any other asset like Gold or silver. It is not necessary to focus on Bitcoin alone as money or an investment. This will change the faith of many people who don't believe in bitcoin and they may change their church which will cause a bad publicity about bitcoin which is not the motive of the coin. Bitcoin is not in the Bible so the church don't have a reason to add it to the doctrine. Therefore, money covers for everything wealth and currency in the bible and it's the root of all evil, remember!

Bitcoin is already a religion on it's own. Making any sought of campaign using others religions as a medium might pose a strong distortion in their belief and norms of such religion. Bitcoin is self publicized , i think all the network needs at the moment is patience for more adoption which might take more longer to achieve but will certain gain attainment someday.

Lolx, it's funny per say. But I really understand the point of the op. In our society today, religion has turned to a machinery to champion anything that deals with crowd, conscience and emotions.
The politicians uses religion to canvas for vote. They literally go to campaign in churches as pastors will be seen on the pulpit telling the people a politician chosen by God

During the covid-19 vaccination, churches were used to promote the campaign.
The pastors are holding so much powers they use to control the individuals.
Come to op's thought? Bitcoin is not centralized and not a ponzi scheme of numbers, so nobody will go to the extent of sponsorinvg pastors in order to get large numbers.

But on the other hand, we can influence the church to know bitcoin if we insist to make our donations via bitcoin. I believe the church will open a bitcoin paying platform to recieve such payments.

I think that when people begin to move away from the countryside and enter the city, the effect of debt on the financial aspects, which is more related to the paycheck that is collected at the end of the month, taxes, the cost of living and other necessities of life, weakens.
Therefore, we cannot link that debt is what drives people to buy money "which represents gold and silver" as mentioned in the Bible.

I would say on the contrary part that bitcoin is the way we all are united above all our religion and we as the forum community are bitcoiners in my opinion and that's it.But if you say some campaign based on religious approach then personally I am not fan of this thought.

The world is having so much religious based biasness and we should respect each one of them but due to some political and social agendas some took advantage of this and this forum is place where you came from any religion doesn't matter and we don't enquire also the only thing matters is your thoughts for the bitcoin and crypto market as a whole.

bitcoin does not need the help of the religious sector for that. it would be for the best if people figure that out themselves and not just blindly follow what their preacher says about bitcoin and how it is not a fraud. they are also putting their followers at risk if they do that. just like what Darker45 said, the religious sector should stick to doing charitable works, teaching universal values, etc...

I can already picture it. Priests preaching about Bitcoin and telling their followers how God wanted a digital currency, so he told satoshi to invent BTC. The one and only coin to unite Christians worldwide. A coin Jesus would have used if he was alive today. By using Bitcoin, you will reach the gardens of paradise.

And then the bear market starts and all of a sudden, no one cares about the heaven anymore. They just want to decapitate the priest who told them to use Bitcoin.   

You're saying this as if churches and religion in general has a very clean reputation among people worldwide, whereas we all know it really doesn't. Connecting Bitcoin to religion is just going to create a divide among religious people and atheists.

Bitcoin, just like things like gold — are neutral; and it should stay that way.

Take a look about Islamic religion where their disciples e.g. Moslem said Bitcoin is Haram in Shariah law due to speculative asset. It mean there's a religion who doesn't accept Bitcoin in any form, if you use Bitcoin as Islamic campaign, I believe you will get bullied and shunned by them. It's always a No for me to make Bitcoin as a religion campaign.

Personally, I prefer religion to stay spiritual and stick to charitable works and teaching universal values. I prefer that religion preaches respect and kindness and peace and love, and not cause unnecessary divide. This is hardly the case, of course, but I believe it is where religion should be focused. Having said this, I don't think religion should campaign for a particular coin or currency. It is none of their business.

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."

Religion understanding is never the main thing that prevents Bitcoin awareness and the last time I checked it the political understanding thats the main problem Bitcoin had.
Meanwhile, there's no need for any campaign for Bitcoin to gain awareness and I believe the crypto expo or blockchain event organized around the world is enough to generate Bitcoin awareness.

The content is a suggestion on how to create awareness about the treasure called Bitcoin. Though there are fears of fraud associated with it, it remains a treasure others need to tap from. Whether we like it or not people convinces others to go into Bitcoin investments and when is that thing used to convince others to invest, it is the testimonies of genuiness and it's profitability.

Above all, to eradicate the stigma of fraud given to Bitcoin as a digital currency, it is important the religious sector can disabuse such mindset. That is the essence of the content.

No!
Totally unnecessary and the moment you start bringing religion into this you're going to see a lot of people quitting.
I'm already tired of how BTC is pictured as the savior, the ender of poverty and famine, the one coin that will redistribute all wealth, now if I hear it's also the coin of god I'm probably going to stop talking about it!


Kind of,

Revelation 3:18

Let's keep religion and cryptos and investments and the church and my wallets apart by 1 or 2 billion miles!

It's hard to understand what exactly are you asking. Are you suggesting that religion was responsible for spread of physical coins, and now it can help adopt Bitcoin? That's nonsense, because first, religion wasn't a major factor behind adoption of coins, and coins were independently invented and used by many civilizations across the world and ages. And there's no way that religion will play any role in Bitcoin's adoption, because religion lost its influence in society a long time ago, and religious organizations don't care about financial and economic policy.

Bitcoin is not a crowdfunding network that requires a public campaign for its adoption, and also Bitcoin should not be wholly seen as a profits making mechanism that requires a large number of communities members to grow its interest. Bitcoin is a currency and it should be used as that Bitcoin make room for alternatives currency aside from the centralized currency, Bitcoin as a new development needs users that has the personal motivation and derives toward Bitcoin and not just convincing religious forks who have divergence views about Bitcoin, so don't see the need for religious intervention in Bitcoin awareness since it has no direct connection to the idea behind Bitcoin.

Religion all over the world has a convincing force that either compels or changes the belief system of people. Using religion as a medium for Bitcoin campaigns, is a necessary means of creating a popular awareness to change the Bitcoin apathy in most people.

Bitcoin an emerging digital economy is essential in building social and economic status of individuals in society but, this treasure has not been tapped by most persons due to the tag of fraud commonly attached to anything that has to do with digital means of making money.

In disabusing this mindset attached to Bitcoin investments, the church is instrumental in carrying out good campaigns to open up this treasure to members of denominations. Most religions or churches in the Orthodox era were remembered for the use of coins  in the process of transaction.

Biblical reference to coin was made by Jesus who made reference to the two sides of the Roman currency which contains the face of the Roman king. The coin based economies were valued treasures with affordable standard of living among individuals in societies. What seem to be different is the visibility and touchable nature of a coin on one hand and the non touchable nature of the other.

One simple question to ask is this, what is the visible evidence of a money in the bank account and a coin in a wallet. If an individual can develop confidence on the money in the bank, the same person should have confidence on the visibility of a coin in a wallet.