Can Someone Explain to me the old IP to IP TX system?

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Quote from: achow101 on June 25, 2017, 12:13:58 AM

Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 10:00:35 PM

Sure, It was not contentious, Given the Bips 70-73 luv2drnkbr provided. I was wrong.

BIPs 70-72 didn't exist until July 2013, and BIP 73 did not exist until August 2013. The thread I linked to was from 2011, and IP transactions were actually being removed before then. The removal of IP transactions was completely non-contentious even without the existence of BIP 70 or anything like it.

Hey @achow101
So maybe the definition of "contentious" is contentious enough.

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Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 10:00:35 PM

Sure, It was not contentious, Given the Bips 70-73 luv2drnkbr provided. I was wrong.

BIPs 70-72 didn't exist until July 2013, and BIP 73 did not exist until August 2013. The thread I linked to was from 2011, and IP transactions were actually being removed before then. The removal of IP transactions was completely non-contentious even without the existence of BIP 70 or anything like it.

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Quote from: achow101 on June 24, 2017, 11:19:17 AM

Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 03:54:48 AM

However, this explanation is useful but not sufficient. So it was a contentious removal. But now that no one vocally wanted this feature in the past years, it looks like that we can safely remove it. Maybe we will add it after decades. Just keep it in mind.

What makes you think it was a contentious change? Here's the thread discussing this change: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pull-remove-send-to-ip-address-and-ip-transactions-support-9334. It is very non-contentious. Pretty much everyone agrees with the removal.

Sure, It was not contentious, Given the Bips 70-73 luv2drnkbr provided. I was wrong.

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Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 03:54:48 AM

However, this explanation is useful but not sufficient. So it was a contentious removal. But now that no one vocally wanted this feature in the past years, it looks like that we can safely remove it. Maybe we will add it after decades. Just keep it in mind.

What makes you think it was a contentious change? Here's the thread discussing this change: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pull-remove-send-to-ip-address-and-ip-transactions-support-9334. It is very non-contentious. Pretty much everyone agrees with the removal.

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Quote from: luv2drnkbr on June 24, 2017, 04:23:18 AM

Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 03:54:48 AM

Quote from: achow101 on June 22, 2017, 12:02:12 PM

This obviously has some privacy implications and likely some vulnerabilities so it was removed.

However, this explanation is useful but not sufficient. So it was a contentious removal. But now that no one vocally wanted this feature in the past years, it looks like that we can safely remove it. Maybe we will add it after decades. Just keep it in mind.

It will likely never get reintroduced. Bips 70-73 offer a safe and secure system for getting public keys and paying websites or IP addresses.

Author for Bips 70-73: Gavin, Mike Hearn, Stephan Pair.

Sad that we have lost Mike Hearn, likely permanently.

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Quote from: johnscoin on June 24, 2017, 03:54:48 AM

Quote from: achow101 on June 22, 2017, 12:02:12 PM

This obviously has some privacy implications and likely some vulnerabilities so it was removed.

However, this explanation is useful but not sufficient. So it was a contentious removal. But now that no one vocally wanted this feature in the past years, it looks like that we can safely remove it. Maybe we will add it after decades. Just keep it in mind.

It will likely never get reintroduced. Bips 70-73 offer a safe and secure system for getting public keys and paying websites or IP addresses.

johnscoin

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Quote from: achow101 on June 22, 2017, 12:02:12 PM

This obviously has some privacy implications and likely some vulnerabilities so it was removed.

However, this explanation is useful but not sufficient. So it was a contentious removal. But now that no one vocally wanted this feature in the past years, it looks like that we can safely remove it. Maybe we will add it after decades. Just keep it in mind.

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IIRC the IP to IP transaction system would have you enter an IP address and then your node would send a message to that IP address asking it for a public key. The node at that IP address would then send back to your node the public key. Then that public key is used to create a Pay-To-Public-Key output in a transaction. The transactions themselves are the same transactions that we are familiar with today, just that instead of the receiver telling you an address, the nodes would do it themselves. This obviously has some privacy implications and likely some vulnerabilities so it was removed.

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https://i.imgur.com/wj3ifDD.png

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Can someone explain to me how the old IP transactions created by Satoshi?

http://imgur.com/a/BH7cW

Thanks

ThaRozay

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