Topic: Can Tesla's Electric Semi Resolve Shipping Issues Related To High Fuel Costs (Read 182 times)

Not only would it reduce the consumption of fossil fuels.
It will decrease the dependency on countries like Russia.
It would also stand against Child Labour hopefully ! Tesla must make sure not to employ any kids ofcourse in any process.

I do think this is an absolutely amazing idea, after Oil/Petrol/CNG we always come upto the electric options, it's not only more greener but at the same time it's futuristic but only some good companies are able to use it efficiently like Tesla so Personally I have high hopes for it.

Let's see what happens.

Not just electric semi could solve this, truckers need to help out as well. Just to give an example, there are periods in factories where it was many people who worked, and with the salaries and all it cost 5 bucks to build each product and 10 bucks was the sale price, then technology helped to fire some people and machinery took over, and cost of producing that product became 1 dollar, but companies still sold it for 10 dollars, just because they have been, and didn't share the profits. Meaning, truckers could get tesla semi, but even if the price went down for them to go from place A to place B, if they do not drop the price for it, they will profit more, but it would be same for us.

I just hope they will charge those monsters with green energy and not with electricity which was produced with coal burning.

If we keep this feature in mind then definitely it will have amazing effect on the economy as whole. It is one of those thing where you need only one successful launch and the whole world will follow it. Im hoping this would be turning point for whole world where all of them start using electric based vehicles.

If Tesla succeeds then other major companies will follow the norms and thus electric transportation era might just begin!!

If it happens then yup we will prosper perfectly.

Not only this, but I guarantee you that the world is going towards self-driving trucks and cars one way or another. Uber already paid like 15 million dollars years ago to Tesla. Because, they wanted Tesla to build a certain amount of cars that would drive itself with uber. Meaning you would be calling for an Uber, the car would come pick you up itself with no drivers, and it will leave you where you should as well.

Human interaction is important part of driving, there could be some trouble, so it is still a way to go, but one day we are going to have tesla cars and trucks that drive itself and then we are going to see how cheap shipping will become for sure.

It could but it depends on whether they will truly be released on time- we've seen Telsa have years' long delays and also charging infrastructure, charging time, and any potentially infrastructure upgrades to support and expand semi charging.

Yes definitely there are high chances for this. Not only shipping cost but also the fuel cost or the crude oil cost will go lower when this will happen but Tesla is already contributing enough to this. I think with time obviously fuel usage will reduce and so will the fuel reserves in total. So the equilibrium price of the fuel will still be maintained in total.

I know a little bit about this topic, using electricity to power the marine engine, and applications for long-range shipping lanes. Though it was impressive to see Tesla's technology advance in this field, it is still quite far from actually a replacement for marine engines that use oil in diesel-engine. The main critical thing for marine engines is the endurance for crossing the oceans. They're made for slow speed but have long range and many days voyage over the sea without a rest stop.

As many of you have know or own electric cars, that is impossible for the battery technology right now. High capacity and high discharge rate enough to power propeller to move the average 100,000 tons container ship is nearly impossible. The battery technology under the military section might have more potential to solve it. The Japanese's Soryu-class submarine boasts to have the best lithium-ion batteries in the world to power its 4,200 tons submarine when submerged. And the Japanese keep improving this technology so the battery will have higher capacity and higher discharge rate in the future.

Pic to illustrate the Japanese Soryu-class submarine spec right now. Remove the restraint of the battery size to fit on the submarine and all related specs for a submerged submarine. Although it has a limitation, a lower speed than the typical container ships with 15knot. Could be improved in the future if the technology advance.

I expect prices to continue to drop because there are investments being pumped into this sector, which will lead to a reduction in the prices of batteries and how they are manufactured. Therefore, it is not surprising that they are cheap, but I always see that electric cars need about an additional 10 years to be able to compare them with diesel cars.

Also, child labor in Africa, environmental pollution and other things are for informational consumption only.

It is quite important to realize that there are people and more importantly children exploited and that is the future for our vehicle needs. If we can't talk about this, then we are not going to have anything to talk about. This dude created the biggest car company in the world, and he decided to shut down an entire factory just because they were about to become united.

This is the guy that still works with companies that works with companies who exploit these kids but tries to put a distance between them, in reality they are buying those products one way or another. When we all know that he could have his company valued 100 billion less or whatever, and buy it from legit places.

Well, electricity prices are also bound to continue rising in the near future. From what I know, at least in Europe, a big bulk of electricity is generated from natural gas (basically they've replaced one fossil fuel with another).
So financially electric cars are no longer a great business now.

And the rather long charging time + rather small number of km one charge holds make the electric cars okay only for those having one car for long distances and another card for the daily use. This is an old problem and won't be solved unless a much better battery system is developed (either much faster charging, like 1 minute for each 100 km added, either a battery that easily lasts over 1000 km).

A high percentage of products americans use in their daily lives carry past histories of association with sweat shops, slavery and child labor.

Cat and dog food had connections to fishing slavery in asia. The sea salt industry had connections to slavery in south korea. Foxconn worker concentration camps were known to use child labor in the past. Beverage corporations were linked to assassinations to prevent workers in south america from unionizing. Exploitation and abuse are widespread and seldom acknowledged.

The conventional chemistry of lithium batteries uses cobalt. But its not so much the battery industry that is corrupt. So much as it is every industry in africa being linked to exploitation of some type. Whether its mining diamonds and gold. Shipbreaking. Cobalt and rare earth mineral extraction. Africa has terrible conditions for workers as a norm.

I try not to think about how more or less all electronics are dirty in some way or a product of modern slavery, whether it's using children as labor, or paying minimum wages to workers who work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. I know that part of the responsibility for what is happening lies with us consumers, but in fact we have no choice because little in the world today is produced in accordance with moral and ethical principles and respect for human rights.

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I'm not saying that green policy is bad, but I don't think it's achievable in such a short period of time. It would be nice if everyone drove electric cars, but we should not fool ourselves that pollution will be less, because countries like China, Russia or India or even the US do not care too much about environmental problems, but only worsen pollution in the constant race to be competitive.

I don't want to talk about the battery and child labor.What I think is that not only Tesla but everyone who is making electric vehicles is directly contributing to less "global warming" and I am lucky enough to see such thing start to happen in my country,exactly in the city where I live where hybrid buses are all over the place.While the ticket costs the same and the costs are not down,the fact that they come more often,every 1.5 minutes compared to every 5-10 minutes for the diesel only buses shows something,I have an improved transport to rely on.

Other than this Germany if I am not mistaken has made a law that by 2030 all cars should be electric and a few with gasoline,no diesel will be allowed anymore.All these politics directly impact our standard of living,we smoke less and less Co2 which is great for our health.Tons of things where electric cars/buses can make our life better.They,whichever firm they are should continue to move to such vehicles,30 min charge for 400 miles is the perfect example.

You know how we call those electric-based shipping carriers who can pull 100 trucks, require no batteries, need only two people to drive, and have been around for centuries? Trains!
So rather than reinventing the wheel and it would be far simple to offer incentives to companies to ship over long distances with trucks and to operate logistic centers near railway junctions, cutting a lot of traffic and pulling a lot of trucks from highways.


Actually, Tesla is the only one using LFP batteries for their models right now, with VW doing the same but only inside China.
So, for any other electric car, smartphone, laptop, or power bank, you are still using the same cobalt with probably the same source. 

So?

Just accept that the bulk of the supply chain produces materials from unsavory factories. It is bad, but there is nothing, absolutely nothing that fortune 500 corps can do about it. Except for cutting ties with those firms and watch their production capacity drop.

All of this "safe factory labour" clamouring by activists and special interest groups is just that - clamouring. Activists themselves cannot do anything about the problem so it's just a tug of war between them and the factories with Fortune 500 is the rope (and if the rope is weak, it snaps in half).

The inflation was caused mostly by the massive money printing and the stimulus checks. The global oil prices had stabilized at around 100 USD.
Shipping/transportation costs aren't such a big inflation factor. The transport companies simply saw an opportunity to raise the prices and make fast profits.
Anyway, the Tesla Semi sounds promising, but these are only promises. I can't say anything about the Tesla Semi until there are several thousand Tesla trucks hitting the road. I don't see any other big companies in the auto industry focusing on electric trucks. There are multiple issues around the creation of a fully functional electric truck that we don't know about.

Does this mean that all the green cars of Mr. Mars were actually created with the help of exploiting children in Africa, and destroying the environment of the countries where such mines are located? To me, that doesn't sound encouraging in the sense that I would buy such a vehicle, because once someone exploits someone to gain financial benefit, he continues to do so indefinitely.


If the energy to power all those vehicles started to be produced by elves and good fairies with the help of their magical powers. Such a mode of operation can reduce air pollution, but I do not believe that it can reduce transport costs.

Electric Vehicle at the race right now and of course if all succeed and the government gives subsidized that can resolve the issue related fuels cost but since our electricity plant is still made from fossil fuels and I think is not driving much enough change.

I see lot of companies not just tesla that made Semi Truck Ford, Rivian, Nikola and much more and this is good

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Tesla's new electric semi is scheduled to begin production in 2023.

It utilizes the new 4680 battery cells, which do not use cobalt mined in africa with child labor. Has a drag coefficient lower than a bugatti and can do 0-60 miles per hour in 5 seconds. They claim it can add 400 miles of range in only 30 minutes of charge time.

Food prices are climbing. Partially due to the cost of shipping and transportation rising on fossil fuel overhead.

Electric based shipping carries a potential to reduce shipping costs, and stabilize prices to a relative degree. It also carries a potential to reduce consumption of fossil fuels, and perhaps help stabilize prices.