Can the ban on smartphones curtail peer pressure?

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Quote from: Hispo on June 30, 2023, 06:48:39 PM

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Technology has had a detrimental impact on parenting, particularly due to the influence of social media on vulnerable and inexperienced children who are still developing decision-making skills. This article explores how schools have responded to this issue and the subsequent reactions of parents. It is hoped that other developed communities will take note of these concerns and work towards implementing effective measures through government intervention.

I wonder what effective measures they could possibly take that would not break into the privacy and intimacy of people's homes.
For example, in the United States, where there is an important emphasis on freedom, it would be quite scandalous if a law to punish parents who allow their children to use a phone tried to be passed by politicians.

Actually, there in USA there is a whole debate on parenting rights lately.

The United States has been at the forefront of numerous advancements, and many countries with deep-rooted traditions and religious beliefs are finding it challenging to embrace the recent changes being proposed in their respective nations. Unfortunately, some of these changes, which the USA is advocating for, have the potential to cause division and chaos within these countries.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on June 05, 2023, 12:23:07 PM

It's not funny at all, I agree with this good decision and see it as very positive for children.

I have two young children who play with mobile phones all hours of the day and they started accessing Facebook, YouTube, etc. and started learning things that I don't want them to learn at the moment.

It is true that in the end it is inevitable for them to see these things, but at least they have grown up a little and are beginning to realize the seriousness of these bad things.

This is a very good measure I must confess. I so much love this development. I have had this issue with my Nephew and I am even confused on how to solve it. I believe he is so innocent to start using a phone with internet connections. So,I bought him a tablet which only uses a hotspot connection and only when he is connected he will have access to internet.
He now tells me everyday about his mates that got mobile phones. So, not buying for him makes him feel inferior to his mates and that can also be called a peer pressure. It is just a two ways thing.
But, what was implemented in OP is the best thing.

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Quote from: ololajulo on June 30, 2023, 03:33:23 PM

Technology has had a detrimental impact on parenting, particularly due to the influence of social media on vulnerable and inexperienced children who are still developing decision-making skills. This article explores how schools have responded to this issue and the subsequent reactions of parents. It is hoped that other developed communities will take note of these concerns and work towards implementing effective measures through government intervention.

I wonder what effective measures they could possibly take that would not break into the privacy and intimacy of people's homes.
For example, in the United States, where there is an important emphasis on freedom, it would be quite scandalous if a law to punish parents who allow their children to use a phone tried to be passed by politicians.

Actually, there in USA there is a whole debate on parenting rights lately.

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Technology has had a detrimental impact on parenting, particularly due to the influence of social media on vulnerable and inexperienced children who are still developing decision-making skills. This article explores how schools have responded to this issue and the subsequent reactions of parents. It is hoped that other developed communities will take note of these concerns and work towards implementing effective measures through government intervention.

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Quote from: Victan22 on June 30, 2023, 12:16:53 PM

Permit me to pick the last line of your thought "delaying the inevitable "
Delaying the inevitable is actually what kept most of us innocent as teenagers, I could remember vividly that I was almost done with college before I had access to a small phone which was not even an android as at then yet assignments were still done and some other academic research.
Indeed it is a computer age but you will agree with me that teenagers no longer put much effort on academic pursuit because of their excessive access to gadgets, let's not forget in a hurry that those gadgets of today are intellectual innovations of scholars who used their brains in initiating them.
In conclusion, I'm of the opinion that certain restrictive measures should be put in place globally as the case may be until a teen grows into an early adult before they can be in possession of gadgets by then we can now say such a person will bear the responsibility of the outcome of that "inevitable " thanks.

Delaying the inevitable is a factor that should be closely looked at because cell phone usage among kids and teenagers has been on an increased ratio lately and its negative effects have triggered a lot of discussions in many quarters and till now we still have a high influence of those devices on the mental development of the kids in a both positive and negative manner but limiting their involvement will actually help kids creativity tendency.

If we have to choose the contents our kids get exposed it will be more better than having a total ban on cell phone usage till certain age knowing fully well that even though our kids don't get access to that device at home, they will still have that experience from the peers in school bit for the school to start thos movement is good enough.

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Permit me to pick the last line of your thought "delaying the inevitable "
Delaying the inevitable is actually what kept most of us innocent as teenagers, I could remember vividly that I was almost done with college before I had access to a small phone which was not even an android as at then yet assignments were still done and some other academic research.
Indeed it is a computer age but you will agree with me that teenagers no longer put much effort on academic pursuit because of their excessive access to gadgets, let's not forget in a hurry that those gadgets of today are intellectual innovations of scholars who used their brains in initiating them.
In conclusion, I'm of the opinion that certain restrictive measures should be put in place globally as the case may be until a teen grows into an early adult before they can be in possession of gadgets by then we can now say such person will bear the responsibility of the outcome of that "inevitable " thanks.

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Quote from: Qiubell5 on June 10, 2023, 02:32:03 AM

children, of course, should not play cellphones first. Because cellphones have a bad impact on children, namely children become closed individuals, like to be alone, and fade creativity. So, it's better for children not to play HP first. We can teach him first what is good and bad about cell phones. So when they are allowed to play on their phones, they know how to choose good and bad content for themselves.

There must be a certain age limit that we will have to restrict our children from being exposed to the open and circular world, not even now that we are in the developed era of cryptocurrency, everything can be easily learnt from theuse of mobile phones on the internet, also there will also be a certain time whereby we will need to wisdom to refrain from those guidelines and principles over them because they have grown older and get matured and will need live experience to know about what's going on in the world.

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children, of course, should not play cellphones first. Because cellphones have a bad impact on children, namely children become closed individuals, like to be alone, and fade creativity. So, it's better for children not to play HP first. We can teach him first what is good and bad about cell phones. So when they are allowed to play on their phones, they know how to choose good and bad content for themselves.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 10:55:59 AM

I'd like to know your takes on this matter because I found it a little over the top and a bit late, I don't know if I've got similar thinkers. So the question is; do you think a ban on smartphones for kids and early teenagers till they get to certain age help retain a little of their innocence? Can it help bridge the gap peer pressure has on our young ones?

I don't see the habit of letting an early teenager reach a certain age before he/she can use a phone so as to preserve the kid's innocence because at the end of the day society and the company the kid keep is what will determine his/her future innocence.
But in the phone aspect, it will be better to set the phone to kids mode and there are some phones that have kids guided toward healthy digital habit parent can learn more there.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on June 08, 2023, 02:30:08 PM

I guess you were born in the late 80s, early 90s. Great times! I was born in the 80s myself and I remember the times times when we would get together with friends and have fun outside. We'd play ball, chase each other, race remote controlled cars, shoot water guns and then go back home to watch cartoons before going to bed. Best times of my life.

Nowadays kids don't even talk. They go outside, sit on benches and write each other messages on facebook or play games on their phones. They can't even talk like normal people just answer with gifs and memes.

Mid 90s. My gneration is probably last one who had real childhood. Only good memories from these times. I'm not against technologies and development, but you should use it in right way. Facebook or games on smartphone isn't worst thing. I think that Tik Tok with all stupid videos is worst thing and it makes real damage to brain.

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Parents should've been the ones to handle a situation like this, not the government. Though, provision would disallow smartphones until the child reaches secondary school -- doesn't like a terrible idea considering smartphones rot the brains of adults, much less children.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 07, 2023, 09:41:58 AM

It's sad. Compared to the good old days where the best place to seek information is the library but technology has and is slowly making it obsolete. Now I'm not against advancement and all that but kids dependence on it is alarming. But still, placing a ban for me is not going to change anything.

Yeah, I remember my childhood when there was no smartphones and only beginning of mobile phones. It was such good times and current kids won't experience all things that we experienced. Now if you will tell kids to look for information in books, they will look into you - dude, why I should, Google will tell the answer.

I guess you were born in the late 80s, early 90s. Great times! I was born in the 80s myself and I remember the times times when we would get together with friends and have fun outside. We'd play ball, chase each other, race remote controlled cars, shoot water guns and then go back home to watch cartoons before going to bed. Best times of my life.

Nowadays kids don't even talk. They go outside, sit on benches and write each other messages on facebook or play games on their phones. They can't even talk like normal people just answer with gifs and memes.

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It's a good thing the teachers are trying to achieve if you ask me because it still shows that teachers are concerned for the wellbeing of the students. It's appalling a thing the way kids are so lost in their phones that parents feel they are sitting with robots at the table.
Granted, the op sees this as a waste of time or delaying the inevitable but what I see is at that point, when it's time to return the phones, you have set before them choices whether to indulge in those acts or have a form of restraint and control or allow these vices get the better of them.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 07, 2023, 09:41:58 AM

It's sad. Compared to the good old days where the best place to seek information is the library but technology has and is slowly making it obsolete. Now I'm not against advancement and all that but kids dependence on it is alarming. But still, placing a ban for me is not going to change anything.

Yeah, I remember my childhood when there was no smartphones and only beginning of mobile phones. It was such good times and current kids won't experience all things that we experienced. Now if you will tell kids to look for information in books, they will look into you - dude, why I should, Google will tell the answer.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 07, 2023, 05:08:42 AM

Personally, I don't like that current generation often don't have their lifes outside their phones, but it's new reality. But very often their parents acting as bad example for their children. Like it or not, but many of us also don't release phones from our hands.

It's sad. Compared to the good old days where the best place to seek information is the library but technology has and is slowly making it obsolete. Now I'm not against advancement and all that but kids dependence on it is alarming. But still, placing a ban for me is not going to change anything.

Quote from: Wiwo on June 06, 2023, 01:32:01 PM

Where and how was the use of smartphone ban between the age bracket you mentioned because I have not read anything close to this on the news today or the previous week.

It's on the link I provided. You can see it for yourself.

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With or without smartphones, kids are still easily subjected to peer pressure. I do agree that banning smartphones would just be delaying the inevitable. They would be later on exposed to other kids/influences even without the presence of the internet. If this can be effectively applied to everyone, then perhaps peer pressure would be lessen but if this is only applied to a kid or two, the feeling of missing out will just intensify thus still ending up with peer pressure.

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From what I understood that's even law imposed, but just voluntarily initiative in that tow. So, I think it's pointless thing.
C'mon, it's not even about children who are going to primary school, most of them start to use smartphones much earlier, maybe being 3-4 years old. And it's parents responsibility that they give smartphones to their children so early and completely don't control what they're doing with it.
Personally, I don't like that current generation often don't have their lifes outside their phones, but it's new reality. But very often their parents acting as bad example for their children. Like it or not, but many of us also don't release phones from our hands.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 12:23:39 PM

But from what I gathered in the news, it restricts children from the age of 8-9 from using smartphones and I believe this is the age bracket of Gen z who are characterized as digitally smart.

The use of smartphones have been banned, what about laptops? Won't these vices be gotten on there?

I support this initiative because it will cause more good than harm. Sometimes children act in a very strange manner that will make you wonder where they learned it from because nobody has ever acted that way at home or in school. Children at age 8-9 need to be protected from this unacceptable content in social media because this is an important formative stage of their life. My children are always using our phones to watch movies and play games and I will not be surprised if they have been exposed to content that is above their level. These children are still young and can be easily influenced by what they see, they need to be protected. And when they learn it, it could be easily transfered to their peers. This is because children learn faster from their friends than from adults.

Laptops can be easily monitored and the screen is big for a parent to view the content of what a child is watching, but with phones that can keep those contents private. Parents should ensure that they monitor the use of laptops and phones. The high rate of suicide and mass shootings can be traced to social media, so we need to take necessary precautions.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 10:55:59 AM

This looks a bit funny as from my pov i see it as delaying the inevitable.

You can actually see it as delaying the inevitable, but that delay for the inevitable can actually help a child have better control of themself. A child who developes a form of addiction or under peer pressure that resulted from exposure to smartphones, that child will find it difficult to get themselves under control and free from that addiction on time or be confident in themselves and strong enough to not be susceptible to peer pressure. The situation is very much possible not to be the same for a child that does not have an early access to freedom on the internet. The internet is good for information but control of what your child sees on the internet through that smartphone is very important.

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Adopting this as a town wide policy is a bit unusual, but I can understand that there are people out there who think this is a good idea. As long as an overwhelming majority of residents feel this way, I don’t have any problem with this being the type of thing that is done in a small area. People should be able to live all sorts of ways and have places for it without infringing on the rest of our rights.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 12:23:39 PM

But from what I gathered in the news, it restricts children from the age of 8-9 from using smartphones and I believe this is the age bracket of Gen z who are characterized as digitally smart.

The use of smartphones has been banned, what about laptops? Won't these vices be gotten on there?

Where and how was the use of smartphone ban between the age bracket you mentioned because I have not read anything close to this on the news today or the previous week.

But then this step may help in reducing kids over dependence on social media and other online content to make sense out of the growing process, it may have both a bad side and good side on the kids because we also have some early education devices that help kids learn some basic things.

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Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 10:55:59 AM

They also believe that by adopting a town wide policy, it would reduce the chance of a child having a peer who has a smartphone and it can inturn stop peer pressure.

Take the full delivery of being responsible for your children, you can't continue to prevent them from external influence but the training you give them will serve a guide to them whenever they are not under your territory, they cannot continue to be under us as parents, there will come a time they will have to be independent and live on their own, think for themselves and make decisions on what is right from whatever is wrong, we won't be there, but we will see the results and the consequences showing in their lives.

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That's how I've been raised but until I talked to my parents that I need to have it so that they have a contact on me wherever I go. I think it will still go case to case basis. If the kids are too naughty and they are overwhelmed with the technology like having smartphones and they're not using it the right way, I guess that's all these parents have to do and that's to ban them until they grow up to the right age.

Quote from: Liliana1304 on June 05, 2023, 12:23:39 PM

But from what I gathered in the news, it restricts children from the age of 8-9 from using smartphones and I believe this is the age bracket of Gen z who are characterized as digitally smart.

The use of smartphones have been banned, what about laptops? Won't these vices be gotten on there?

Aside from the ban, there should be patronizing as per the usage of these devices and gadgets on how many hours they should be used. It's needed for research and studies but if they're not using it appropriately then their parents will be forced not to allow them to use it.

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It is basically depends on the government and what kind of corruption smart foods contribute to newborn babies and their outgoing babies in that particular country burning smartphone to get 2 starting age before they can be able to use a phone is not encouraging because in university and the other School children is being teach to know technology through Internet,using of phone is one of the things that will make children to be very smart and understand every smart things in future time

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But from what I gathered in the news, it restricts children from the age of 8-9 from using smartphones and I believe this is the age bracket of Gen z who are characterized as digitally smart.

The use of smartphones have been banned, what about laptops? Won't these vices be gotten on there?

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It's not funny at all, I agree with this good decision and see it as very positive for children.

I have two young children who play with mobile phones all hours of the day and they started accessing Facebook, YouTube, etc. and started learning things that I don't want them to learn at the moment.

It is true that in the end it is inevitable for them to see these things, but at least they have grown up a little and are beginning to realize the seriousness of these bad things.

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I can see benefits on such measure. It could help children to develop a better self esteem and perception of reality. It just takes a look at social media like Instagram where people only post idealized stuff and artificial beauty, that kind of content is very damaging for a person who is developing their personality, in my opinion.

Even though, later they will end up using a smarthphone anyways when they get up to some age, they will hopefully have the madurity to digest anything they could see on internet.

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I'd like to know your takes on this matter because I found it a little over the top and a bit late, I don't know if I've got similar thinkers. So the question is; do you think a ban on smartphones for kids and early teenagers till they get to certain age help retain a little of their innocence? Can it help bridge the gap peer pressure has on our young ones?

The teachers in Greystones, a town in Ireland, decided that the best way to retain a little innocence amongst their kids is by saying 'no' to smartphones.
Now while the importance of smartphones can't be overemphasize especially as it can help with homeworks and all that, it can also be a go-to spot for unhealthy vices like a chronic dependence on social media, games and even adult material.

They also believe that by adopting a town wide policy, it would reduce the chance of a child having a peer who has a smartphone and it can inturn stop peer pressure.
This looks a bit funny as from my pov i see it as delaying the inevitable.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/03/much-easier-to-say-no-irish-town-unites-in-smartphone-ban-for-young-children

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