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Topic: Can US protect its allies against China in the Far East? (Read 619 times)

legendary
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Even w/ the all the ISIS propaganda and past finance of them hasn't gotten Americans as a whole to want to get deeply involved despite the major economic interests are so gun-ho in favor of intervention. Many in the GOP have been juiced up by non-stop Fox coverage of ISIS for intervening somehow and w/o Rand Paul saying his piece, this number would be even larger. I hardly doubt Americans will give a crap about what's going on over in the southeast Asian territories if they are even aware of what is going on. Of course, the government usually does what it does in spite of the populace at times so who knows.

Don't underestimate the role of propaganda to vilify the 'enemy' and have the populace rally around the cause. Even so, the general public is quite ignorant on most of the foreign policy stuff and that doesn't stop anything us from getting involved. Containing China is of strategic importance because it's the only country with the economy that could support a navy large enough to rival ours. Unparalleled control of the seas has been the biggest military and economic advantage America has had in the last 70 years. If it becomes necessary, you'll see the government's push to rally the public around 'protecting our allies.'
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The Americans are a bit confused here. If they don't do anything, then that will make their allies (Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia.etc) angry. On the other hand, if they take an aggressive stance against the Chinese, then the latter will swing more towards Russia, weakening the American sanctions which are currently imposed on that country.
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Even w/ the all the ISIS propaganda and past finance of them hasn't gotten Americans as a whole to want to get deeply involved despite the major economic interests are so gun-ho in favor of intervention. Many in the GOP have been juiced up by non-stop Fox coverage of ISIS for intervening somehow and w/o Rand Paul saying his piece, this number would be even larger. I hardly doubt Americans will give a crap about what's going on over in the southeast Asian territories if they are even aware of what is going on. Of course, the government usually does what it does in spite of the populace at times so who knows.
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You are correct, the Philippines has little military capability given the number of islands it has to cover.  However, you just made a deal with Japan for 10 patrol boats and are asking around for used military equipment.  Of course, the best guarantee has been your security arrangement with the USA.  That was a little harmed by the glee with which the US lost its basing rights in the 1990s, but no major harm.

The bigger danger is how seriously the economic hollowing out of the US has impaired its ability to sustain its security commitments while at the same time efforts in Southwest Asia and the Middle East have reduced its resolve. 

I would not want to be the US president that has to explain why US sailors have to die for fishing and mineral rights in the South China Sea while at the same time saying that nobody is getting any more iPhones because China just refused to ship any more to the states.  Oh, and interest rates are 12% and it takes 10 USD to buy one Euro because China just dumped all their US bonds.

So I guess the short answer is no.  The US can help an alliance protect their claims but can't and wont fight China alone.
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This has been concerning me for sometime now because I am a citizen of the Philippines, a tiny little country completely unarmed with the latest technologies of war. We haven't got any capabilities to combat China in case a war breaks. An hour or so of simultaneous attacks from different sides in our country would probably cripple us easily. These territories that we are fighting to have are originally included on the exclusive economic zone of our country that was signed during the UNCLOS and was enforced on 1994. The treaty indicated that a state could harness every resources--be it marine or land--and has a full sovereign rights over a territory that is within 200 nautical miles within the baseline of its coast. Basically, we are fighting for our rights here, not just the underlying gas and oil fields that could be present. However, small countries like ours doesn't have the means to fight for it. We want diplomatic actions, not aggressive actions. Even if the US enters the scene, we are fucked up anyways, as it will only result to a war we never intended to have. We will lose control over the territories plus we might be trapped in a war that we never wanted to have in the first place.

What are your thoughts on the ongoing territorial dispute in SEA?
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The territorial disputes in Southeast Asia has been going on for decades, and until recently, most of the claiming actions are made aggressively by the Chinese government. These territories are believed to have some underlying gas and/or oil fields beneath them. The Chinese government began building artificial islands near these islands however, as the Chinese expands its control over the disputed territories, more and more countries appeal against this takeover by the Chinese, one of them being the United States. As we all know it, China is already an economic superpower, and in case an aggressive action was taken by the US, the government of China wouldn't hesitate to engage a war against the US. The question is, can the United States manage to protect its allies' interest over SEA or will they just let the Chinese occupation pass to avoid another war?

http://www.dw.de/a-look-at-the-us-stance-on-the-south-china-sea-dispute/a-18491589
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-using-south-china-sea-conflicts-as-distraction-2015-6

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