Can we do what China did to gaming with gambling?

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

I disagree completely with the application of this kind of restriction to kids when it comes to gaming and to adults as well when comes to gambling, I know that a lot of people who see something like this like it and they do because they do not like the idea of kids gaming so much, but it is the responsibility of the parents and not the governments to control how much time their kids spend gaming and the same is true for gambling, each person needs to decide responsibly what they do with their time and their money, I know that some people are going to pick the wrong choice but that is the price we need to pay for freedom.

You shouldnt really be that close minded because if you do really look on general perspective or on bigger picture then whats the thing that they would obtain on stopping kids on playing videogames. None right?

They are showing off at least some concern on what are the cons of playing too much videogames and if their intent is to make or let those children connect with the physical world then it isnt really that bad
motive but rather i do see it to be good instead.

When it comes to gambling restriction then this is an another story because we cant just compare off things that deal with real money and simply those games as past time which doesnt involved one.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

I disagree completely with the application of this kind of restriction to kids when it comes to gaming and to adults as well when comes to gambling, I know that a lot of people who see something like this like it and they do because they do not like the idea of kids gaming so much, but it is the responsibility of the parents and not the governments to control how much time their kids spend gaming and the same is true for gambling, each person needs to decide responsibly what they do with their time and their money, I know that some people are going to pick the wrong choice but that is the price we need to pay for freedom.

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How it would be implemented or to roll-out?

Are they going to house to house on making out some personal checks?
Would they block it through ISP?

I do like the initiative but im bit confused nor still in question on how they would gonna do that but well knowing China
they are really strict on implementing things.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Well, Addiction is not limited to virtual gambling stuff. Like you said "If the same can be said for gambling" And my answer would be Yes!

Gambling addiction, Alcohol addiction, Drugs addiction. These addictions are different but the habit is the same and people have a hard time getting rid of their addictions alone and they reject getting help. I've seen this with Alcoholics. They refuse to admit that they're addicted and can't see it themself..

Nvm that now to the Topic -

It's actually a good thing what China did but I'm still surprised that a Nation such a China that did this.. I thought they want to control and keep on feeding subconscious messages to the children through games but that can't be done with every game...

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Possible but i dont really believe that a certain country would prohibit or make it happen for too long. 1 or 2 days break would be considerable but talking about a week to months then it would be a no go specially
to those countries who do really get high taxes from these businesses then they would definitely rather consider on having no break rather than not getting any tax at all. Its a personal choice but not really a bad
initiative by the government on where there should some break when it comes to this but it is really hard to get rid off for children not to make engagement knowing on this digital era.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 01, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

It will only make matters worse.

The more you restrict people from doing something, the more that they will do things in order to just get their fill of it. Just take a look at lockdowns during the pandemic. Most people hated being restricted within the confines of their homes, hence some of them are breaking quarantine restrictions in order to just go outside and do what they normally do. This can be the same with gambling, and with that strict of a regulation, people will seek underground gambling platforms in order to just play, or to get their fill of gambling.

Indeed. In my country, for example, gambling is forbidden, but it doesn't prevent lots of people from betting. They just go to illegal houses or virtual casinos instead of the old legal physical casinos we had before the law passed. When the industry was considered legit, there were many people who legally worked in casinos and now these people are unemployed or have to work in the shadows of clandestinity.

Quote from: dothebeats on September 01, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

Also, morality comes second to the government, especially if they are gaining a lot from the industry. They are earning billions from gambling alone, so why would they restrict it or put some heavy regulations about it?

In some countries restrictions happen for religious reasons, but in China's case I think it's more like a strategy to not let the population fall for addictions of any kinds (as even children are being prevented from playing videogames accordingly to OP). Addictions make people weaker, less productive, so chinese government wants to avoid that, just like they did with opium dens back in 1950's, when they totally erradicated the production and usage of opium.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 01, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

It will only make matters worse.

The more you restrict people from doing something, the more that they will do things in order to just get their fill of it. Just take a look at lockdowns during the pandemic. Most people hated being restricted within the confines of their homes, hence some of them are breaking quarantine restrictions in order to just go outside and do what they normally do. This can be the same with gambling, and with that strict of a regulation, people will seek underground gambling platforms in order to just play, or to get their fill of gambling.

Also, morality comes second to the government, especially if they are gaining a lot from the industry. They are earning billions from gambling alone, so why would they restrict it or put some heavy regulations about it?

You are absolutely right. No amount of restriction can force a person not to do what he likes.

I believe that each of us must have our own internal constraint. If you feel that gambling is taking you too long or you are losing money that was intended for another cause, then you should definitely limit yourself. If gambling doesn't cause you any problems, then there's no need to limit yourself.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Well China lives under a dictatorship. So the Chinese government can do whatever they want. Having a time limit for playing video games is nothing, they can even evict you anytime from your house if they need your land for any development work. So they can do whatever they want but that doesn't have an impact on the rest of the world.

I am sure no other government (except few dictator led countries) would want to bring any law that would restrict their citizens from any activity including gambling. That's just not possible because that will violate the basic fundamental human rights.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space.

Whether there is this type of law or there's none, it's still the responsibility of parents on how they'll control their children towards gaming. You can set a house rule how long your kids can play continuously or if they are done already with their chores. When I've seen this, that didn't surprise me as it's basically the parents that should be giving that limit but through China's government, it's an enforcement because probably they have seen that a lot of parents can no longer control their children.

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

It is different for the gamblers as we're adults already and don't have time to study unlike the kids, they have other things to do and focus with such as studying. Although we have different ways of living, this can be just solved by enforcing it on your own.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

The role of parents may be more precisely in regulating their children not to focus on playing games and more inviting them to be able to play in the yard.
Adults tend to already know what they are doing, but if you do the time lag way when gambling is very difficult if you are in a state of gambling at a fun time.
Sometimes adults gamble because for them gambling is entertainment. So you could say it's different from children who have to play more and interact physically with their peers.

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It will only make matters worse.

The more you restrict people from doing something, the more that they will do things in order to just get their fill of it. Just take a look at lockdowns during the pandemic. Most people hated being restricted within the confines of their homes, hence some of them are breaking quarantine restrictions in order to just go outside and do what they normally do. This can be the same with gambling, and with that strict of a regulation, people will seek underground gambling platforms in order to just play, or to get their fill of gambling.

Also, morality comes second to the government, especially if they are gaining a lot from the industry. They are earning billions from gambling alone, so why would they restrict it or put some heavy regulations about it?

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Ban crypto mining = losing this industry.
Ban gaming - losing this industry.

Why is China going to lose industries where it was the leader? At some point it's understandable, children are really addicted to gaming and this really has negative effect on their mental health and social skills. Gaming is really different from real life games like soccer, basketball and others. I have seen CS 1.6 addicted children who were destroying their keyboards and mouses because of lose and most of them had very sensitive and anxious reflexes.

What if the same applies to gambling? When the government bans gambling, then people find different countries that let them gamble without restrictions. On another hand, the country that bans gambling just loses a lot of money and benefits other countries instead of own one.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

The big question is that who will ensure that the children get break from playing video games ? Who will monitor them. If you say that its duty of parents, then i am afraid they could have done it without the law.
Its very hard to stop things from kids which are available online unless to stop giving them the mobiles or computers.

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Is there a gambler who isn’t matured enough? I guess I haven’t seen such anyone though I don’t have a lot of gamblers known. But still, it doesn’t make sense. Most of majority of the gamblers are matured enough and they know what they are DOING. Then, why would it be an issue? Well, no casino allow a child to gamble. They require at least 18 years; you probably know this.
If you are talking a break for mature people, that's not enough logical IMO.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

First, you have to take control of things... in China this is relatively easy, but try to do the same in a democratic country... good luck!
In a capitalist world what matters is money, so gambling sites analyze what is most profitable... to continue following the rules of a country and not suffer fines or migrate to less strict countries to have more freedom even if they win any less?

Anyway, the fact is that China makes its own laws and has the necessary tools to enforce them, you can't try to apply them elsewhere.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 01, 2021, 01:09:33 PM

It would be difficult to implement such rules on adults because different persons gamble at different time for children their time to a large extent is programmed is either they are at school or at home but for the adult you can't predict their time and activities so trying to use the same measure on adults would not really work well

Yeah, I've realized that by the after I've pressed the post button and I think that I will be locking this thread if it's not deleted by tomorrow if it's going to be the same point than the other existing posts.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

...Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

Good initiative but adults would still participate even if gambling or a particular betting event is illegal in their country. How do you think this type of law would stop them or cool off? Nothing can stop them once they're addicted but self-restraint.

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It would be difficult to implement such rules on adults because different persons gamble at different time for children their time to a large extent is programmed is either they are at school or at home but for the adult you can't predict their time and activities so trying to use the same measure on adults would not really work well

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Well, if I am not wrong all kind of gambling games are completely banned in China except the lottery which is run by the government itself so they already have strict regulations towards such kind of activities but in reality people are travelling to the other countries from China just for their gambling since its also a form of an entertainment. Instead of banning anything completely the government should regulate it so the minors so called kids can be saved while the remaining people can do that from their comfort zone itself.

I agree with you, and I believe it would be beneficial to the government because these businesses pay high taxes; in our country, these types of businesses pay some of the highest taxes, which is great for the government because they will earn a lot of money. That is why these things are legal in our country because the government makes a lot of money from them.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 12:51:43 PM

I am not talking about the kid's gambling, you've misunderstood mea culpa, I was just referring to the regulation alone and not the kids so I thought I've implied that I was talking about the regulation.

Misunderstanding or not, no worries, it doesn't matter much: I've taken them out of the equation and the rest stands valid Wink

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 01, 2021, 12:14:31 PM

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 12:04:20 PM

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Children should not gamble. They basically gamble by lying about their age (hence breaking the rules).

I am not talking about the kid's gambling, you've misunderstood mea culpa, I was just referring to the regulation alone and not the kids so I thought I've implied that I was talking about the regulation.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 01, 2021, 11:44:46 AM

...Children really need to limit playing digital games for them to enjoy physical activities.

Childhood is a very important stage in a child's life as any habit picked up at that stage by a child can follow him throughout life, that is why it is important for there to a regulation to most activities they are involved as well.

I see no wrong in it as well, parents may have ignored that aspect of parenting and the government is helping to put it under control maybe after an analysis of the number of people i like to refer as children in adult bodies struggling to mature into someone that has control over their excesses.

If a child is not thought control to habits like video games when he is young, who is to say he will know how to keep under check his gambling activities when he has come of age, and maybe now a gambler as well?

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Quote from: ipanks on September 01, 2021, 11:10:36 AM

Taking a break for children from playing video games is necessary because they can easily becoming addicted to the games and do not want to stop playing. We can do that to gambling and that is a must thing that we should do before we are late to realize that we have already become addicted to gambling. We can try to take a break for a while, especially if we get a losing streak and that will help us reduce the emotion that we got from the games. By taking a break, we can calm ourselves down and see that we do not have to continue playing gambling if we think that it will make us in trouble.

This is a good idea to prevent children to be prone from so much engagement in playing video games, here in my country even the young ones with an age between 12-18 were very vulnerable in video games that they could stay awake all night for the online video games. To be honest this is alarming since too much playing video games (sleepless nights, inactive daily activities) could cause serious health risk to a child. China just made a good law to protect the children from a possible risks that they may get from too much exposure on video games.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 12:04:20 PM

in League of Legends there's a reminder of how long you've been playing and they give you a 30 minute break. In another game CABAL, they have reminders on how long you've been playing and they will disconnect you when it's been too long already

Interesting, I didn't know.

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 12:04:20 PM

so I think that regulation could work especially with children. In the case of gambling, it can still work, given it's not that long of a break and it's not a cockblock type of break.

Children should not gamble. They basically gamble by lying about their age (hence breaking the rules).

The block could work, but it also has the chance to rise frustration to highest level, for example if one is on a winning strike, or just lost a big amount. Gambling is adrenaline. If you block the user somewhere "in the middle" it could be bad: from accusation that the casino is cheating to people leaving it.

And if it's only displayed somewhere, even if it's highly visible, I expect exactly the most hooked ones who need disconnect will ignore that.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 01, 2021, 10:49:38 AM

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

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Well, China is not the entire world. The video games law would have no chance in a democratic country.
Also it's expected - I know that sadly it doesn't always happen, still, it's expected - that the gamblers are mature people, hence people who know to take a break now and then and clear their minds (yeah, this doesn't always happen either).]

It can probably work, I mean there are some ways this has been done already, in League of Legends there's a reminder of how long you've been playing and they give you a 30 minute break. In another game CABAL, they have reminders on how long you've been playing and they will disconnect you when it's been too long already, so I think that regulation could work especially with children. In the case of gambling, it can still work, given it's not that long of a break and it's not a cockblock type of break.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Well, if I am not wrong all kind of gambling games are completely banned in China except the lottery which is run by the government itself so they already have strict regulations towards such kind of activities but in reality people are travelling to the other countries from China just for their gambling since its also a form of an entertainment. Instead of banning anything completely the government should regulate it so the minors so called kids can be saved while the remaining people can do that from their comfort zone itself.

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I think it can probably work but wouldn't people that's gambling would find a way to circumvent the pause so they can get their daily fix? I mean that could render all the work in that regulation useless since they can find a way to get a loophole. I feel like this could be a good regulation but the gambling industry will definitely hate and try to fight it to not become a regulation.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space.

nah, the hell with that. Parents should be the ones to educate their kids, not the damn govt

btw, just recently south korea got rid of their stupid gaming law; South Korea Abolishing Controversial Gaming Shutdown Law

but of course the chinese govt keeps pushing for more control over the citizens, ffs!

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too

not a chance...the gambling industry moves too much money, a govt can regulate it further in order to keep getting a piece of the pie, but to enforce such a restrictive law, even if it's for the "well being of the kids" (we all know that's not case, it's about control), not a chance. And, again, let the people do whatever the hell they want with their life!

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

To be honest i don't really think that this law that china recently introduced is that bad. There are a lot of kids, and also very small kids, that are basically spending every free minute of their day in front of the smart phone or some other device to play some stupid mobile games that have zero value in terms of learning of increasing your general knowledge or stuff like that. Back in my childhood days we played at least warcraft 2 or diablo 2 on the PC Wink

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It is something different though to introduce a law that limits the time that you are allowed to gamble, because gambling is only allowed for adults and i don't think any country would introduce a law that basically says adults how to spend their free time.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames

I do not yet see how this is connected to gambling, the law is for children not for adults, only 18+ people can be able to gamble, if any under age is seen gambling in countries that support gambling, any adult involved can be punished because only adult should and able to gamble.

Also know that China is just a country, the world is full of several countries with different laws, China is not ruling the world, all the governments in the world will always have their differences, in a true democratic countries, there is no law that will be passed that will against gambling because people should have the freedom to be able to decide on their own to gamble or not.

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I don't think that business owners will agree to that, knowing that they will have fewer players and less playing time. It's not going to be gone entirely, but the chances are that they rely on people who are always playing and not those who just go on it to try and have fun. I think having mandatory breaks on the actual game would be more helpful than taking breaks because some don't care about it. If it's a mandatory one, maybe it could reduce the addicted people and increase rage in people. Perhaps it can be a choice for the players.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with the physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

Video games for children is different from gambling by adults. Children really need to limit playing digital games for them to enjoy physical activities while we, adults, already know how to control things. Most of us do gambling as a break to enjoy and have fun so as for me, we don't have to take a break from it as long as we know our limitations.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

While it may seem like a good idea, China has a long history of top down leadership that didn't really turn out too well in the long run. Just look at Mao's suggestion to kill all the birds, because they were supposedly eating crops (nevermind the huge government mismanagement of agriculture) and then they had plagues of insects cause massive devastation. It may seem like a good idea to limit kids, but as long as it is part of an otherwise healthy lifestyle, gaming can actually help expand the mind, create great knowledge and flex cognitive abilities - creating stimulation that they might not otherwise get. It's nice to think back to a much cleaner and more carefree world that older generations had before computers, but time has moved on. It may end up actually stunting China's youth into the future, so may not be the benefit they think they are imposing. Like many aspects of Chinese society, it's all a kind of creepy big-brother controls your life type mentality.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames,

Except, if China performs data accurately and cooperates with online gaming parties.

If they do a photo directly on any online gaming site in the registration accompanied by a live photo, there will know the truth, register.

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Why would we want to do that? It's like the old phrase of "God intention, bad law." Think about it, the only way to restrain gambling addiction/urge/self-destruction is with self-control. If the timeout imposed without consent, people will find a way to bypass the law. Thus, the law becomes meaningless. Moreover, it can be used by the corrupt government to punish their opposition. Imagine getting in jail because someone accuses you of playing video games (or gambling). It just like the death penalty for corruptors, when the government is corrupt, it only being used to punish or get rid of someone they don't like.

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Taking a break for children from playing video games is necessary because they can easily becoming addicted to the games and do not want to stop playing. We can do that to gambling and that is a must thing that we should do before we are late to realize that we have already become addicted to gambling. We can try to take a break for a while, especially if we get a losing streak and that will help us reduce the emotion that we got from the games. By taking a break, we can calm ourselves down and see that we do not have to continue playing gambling if we think that it will make us in trouble.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

I think it's pretty good, maybe we also often do it just unstructured and not based on advice from any party. If we gamble, we should also rest. Well, of course, we want to know what kind of pause that China applies to children, maybe we can collaborate with their respective parents so that they can schedule how many hours to play games and how many hours to stop playing games. Then how can we stop all gambling that is done without certain rules and time limits?

Maybe what you mean is that you are more in control of the gambling situation when you lose in a row. So, after you stop gambling, go out and rest first to release mental stress, so that you are much more refreshed when gambling.

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Of course, taking a break/pause is beneficial. Gambling should really take place in a fairly good condition not only physically, but in a much calmer mental state. In China, this is done for the sake of children's motor development so that they interact more outside because for children this stage of development is important compared to playing games on gadgets without interaction with the natural environment. Ideally, children like that are their world.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 01, 2021, 10:27:54 AM

Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection

Well, China is not the entire world. The video games law would have no chance in a democratic country.
Also it's expected - I know that sadly it doesn't always happen, still, it's expected - that the gamblers are mature people, hence people who know to take a break now and then and clear their minds (yeah, this doesn't always happen either).

The thing is.. in theory all is great hence doesn't have to be fixed. And in reality, even if the problem would be admitted, it would be hard to fix. I expect though that such users are a minority, hence the problem is not that big.

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Recently China passed a law that says that there's a break for children for playing videogames, I like this regulation because it helps kids reconnect with physical world and at the same time make them not dependent or addicted to the virtual space. Now here's my question, can we do that to gambling too, it can probably help the people to take a break and cool their heads off when they're on a losing streak or it can also be a time for some reflection as to when did it all go wrong for them to lead to this point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/31/tech/china-ban-video-games-minor-intl-hnk/index.html?espv=1

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