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June 08, 2011, 07:29:43 PM
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You can not tell people what they can do in a free market.

Nice irony that you are suggesting telling people what they should be allowed to say in this forum.  Only some kinds of freedom are important, I guess?

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But some animals are more equal than others.
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June 08, 2011, 07:29:10 PM
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Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.

There is simply no way a 3% fee pool is paying out more Bitcoins than a 0% fee pool in the long run (even with invalid insurance). It may have less variance, that is all.

That's exactly what it is. Deepbit got huge by being the best but it's staying huge simply because it's huge. Its large size ensures that it wins lotteries far more often than any other pool. Think about it: lotteries hit what, every 10 minutes? and if deepbit is about half of the network that means it hits every 20 on average. Nobody gets more money from this pattern because it's being split more ways, but the result is a visually appealing constantly incrementing counter. You can refresh the page all day and say "there's another bitcent, and another and another" while in smaller pools you might go an hour or more before seeing an increase. Mind you the increase will be larger when it hits, but that doesn't fix the psychological issue at hand.

Realistically, if you point 100 MH/s at deepbit, 100 MH/s at BTC Guild and solo mine at 100 MH/s you will, over the long term, see exactly equal earnings before fees. The fact that deepbit charges 3%, BTC Guild charges 0-2.5% (depending on what features you want) and solo mining costs 0% should be deepbit's death knell, but that feeling of the tiny constant trickle of BTC has people seduced.
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June 08, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
#10

You can not tell people what they can do in a free market.

Nice irony that you are suggesting telling people what they should be allowed to say in this forum.  Only some kinds of freedom are important, I guess?
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June 08, 2011, 07:26:48 PM
#9
Every other post is deepbit this deepbit that, can we get a moderator in here to clean up this garbage so the important threads can be found....

Or make me moderator and I will do it for free, it is annoying.

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LOL, that is the most contradictory thing I've heard all year. Kudos!

How can you say "You can not tell people what they can do in a free market", but turn around and bash people for creating threads you don't like.

So, which is it?
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June 08, 2011, 07:24:28 PM
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Which is why I chose the term 'consistently.'

It may be consistent, but it isn't more. If anything it's consistently less.
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June 08, 2011, 07:21:39 PM
#7
Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.
Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.

I actually think BTC Guild has the better offering, really. Much better monitoring options and data for those of us with multiple workers to keep track of.
I might have to give them a try, have heard a lot of buzz about them. Thanks for the suggestion Smiley

There is simply no way a 3% fee pool is paying out more Bitcoins than a 0% fee pool in the long run (even with invalid insurance). It may have less variance, that is all.
Which is why I chose the term 'consistently.'

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June 08, 2011, 07:19:31 PM
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Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.

There is simply no way a 3% fee pool is paying out more Bitcoins than a 0% fee pool in the long run (even with invalid insurance). It may have less variance, that is all.
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June 08, 2011, 07:17:46 PM
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Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.

I actually think BTC Guild has the better offering, really. Much better monitoring options and data for those of us with multiple workers to keep track of.
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June 08, 2011, 07:16:35 PM
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Every other post is deepbit this deepbit that, can we get a moderator in here to clean up this garbage so the important threads can be found....

Or make me moderator and I will do it for free, it is annoying.

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If we truly desire to be a free market we must regulate ourselves. P2P is built on parity, this situation ruins the parity act now or some other entity will (government, NGO, IMF) and you and I will both be hosed.
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June 08, 2011, 07:15:57 PM
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Thank you for saying it. Tycho is gaining 50% of the market because he has a great pool with consistent payout and features people want. Other pools could gain more users if they take a page from his book, and offer a more competitive 'product.' Most miners are in it for the money, and that's the bottom line. People are going to go where they are consistently making the most money.
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June 08, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
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No, but last I checked making polite suggestions is fine. And network health is important to some. In fact, it should be the most important issue to a miner.

Better yet, let's play with fire. Everyone switch to deepbit. When a government decided they want to destroy this little project, where do you think they will go? When the chain is forked what do you think the investors sitting on the sidelines waiting to invest millions will do? Let's find out. Let's see how much we can trust one pool. Let's put the entire network into the hands of one man.
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June 08, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
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Every other post is deepbit this deepbit that, can we get a moderator in here to clean up this garbage so the important threads can be found....

Or make me moderator and I will do it for free, it is annoying.

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