Topic: Can you break your country's laws outside your country? (Read 680 times)
Crime is a matter of principle，Should respect the rules
Can you commit crime outside your country, and then get in trouble for it when you return? What if what you do doesn't affect your country but is still illegal in your country? Does it matter if the person committing the crime outside his or her country is a citizen of his or her country?
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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It depends if the country you are in right now has the same law compared to your own country. If it is legal in that country then it should be okay because you are not obliged to abide in the laws of a country you’re not in. For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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In the U.S., there are so many laws that it is said that everybody breaks at least 4 laws a day, even if he does nothing wrong at all.
You probably don't have (written) permission from bitcointalk.org to be connecting to their site here. That's unauthorized access of a computer. There's one. What are the other 3?Of course they don't enforce the law on websites, but what if it is something else that is not necessarily intended for public access where they may enforce this law? What if you do this "hacking" / "cracking" from outside the USA? Will you be in trouble in the USA if you ever come to the USA even though the place where you did this it is perfectly legal?
I think what you mean to say is no. Your country does not attemp to penalize anyone who goes to Thailand to do things that would be illegal in India. India respects that their jurisdiction is only within their borders and so they do not attemp to extradite anyone back to India, because they involved in gambling and prostitution in another country. They don't find people who return from Combodia and put them in jail in India because they would have been breaking Indian law if they weren't in another country.
People go to Thailand for a variety of reasons, and not just for hooking up with prostitutes. Thailand is a popular shopping and tourist destination for the Indian families. In such cases, how the authorities are going to differentiate between the sex tourists and the normal tourists?
There are a few countries in which prostitution is perfectly legal (such as the Netherlands and Turkey). But it is illegal in most of the other countries (especially in the third world). Even in countries such as Thailand, prostitution is de jure prohibited. But the ban is hardly ever implemented, especially if the girls are over 18 years of age.
no u cant. when u travel to other countries, you should obey to traveling country rules..
In the U.S., there are so many laws that it is said that everybody breaks at least 4 laws a day, even if he does nothing wrong at all.
It probably would depend on the weight of the crime you committed i think. There's not going to be many things that can be done if you were able to successfully leave the country you've committed crime on but i think there's a way for that country's government to get to you if they have an agreement with your country. That is, if you've managed to get out first.
I think what you mean to say is no. Your country does not attemp to penalize anyone who goes to Thailand to do things that would be illegal in India. India respects that their jurisdiction is only within their borders and so they do not attemp to extradite anyone back to India, because they involved in gambling and prostitution in another country. They don't find people who return from Combodia and put them in jail in India because they would have been breaking Indian law if they weren't in another country.
People go to Thailand for a variety of reasons, and not just for hooking up with prostitutes. Thailand is a popular shopping and tourist destination for the Indian families. In such cases, how the authorities are going to differentiate between the sex tourists and the normal tourists?
I think what you mean to say is no. Your country does not attemp to penalize anyone who goes to Thailand to do things that would be illegal in India. India respects that their jurisdiction is only within their borders and so they do not attemp to extradite anyone back to India, because they involved in gambling and prostitution in another country. They don't find people who return from Combodia and put them in jail in India because they would have been breaking Indian law if they weren't in another country.
People go to Thailand for a variety of reasons, and not just for hooking up with prostitutes. Thailand is a popular shopping and tourist destination for the Indian families. In such cases, how the authorities are going to differentiate between the sex tourists and the normal tourists?
Base on what I heard you can break a low outside your country! But if your in trouble and wanted outside your country,
And if you cam back to your own country you don’t have case unless the authority of other country asking a help from the authorities of your country to fined you!then they cooperate ,, and they conferm that you back! The authority of the country where you having trouble! They came to arrest you with the help to your country police ,,,,
And if you cam back to your own country you don’t have case unless the authority of other country asking a help from the authorities of your country to fined you!then they cooperate ,, and they conferm that you back! The authority of the country where you having trouble! They came to arrest you with the help to your country police ,,,,
The answer is yes... IMO. For example, gambling and prostitution is illegal here in India. So the rich Indians usually travel to places such as Macau for gambling, and Thailand/Cambodia.etc for prostitutes. No one takes criminal action against these people. The only consequence is that the Indian government loses valuable tax money and countries such as Macau are gaining them.
I think what you mean to say is no. Your country does not attemp to penalize anyone who goes to Thailand to do things that would be illegal in India. India respects that their jurisdiction is only within their borders and so they do not attemp to extradite anyone back to India, because they involved in gambling and prostitution in another country. They don't find people who return from Combodia and put them in jail in India because they would have been breaking Indian law if they weren't in another country.
Here in the US if someone goes to Mexica and has sexual relations with someone who is under 18 it almost seems like they are ready to put the person in jail when they come back to the USA even though they have no authority to do so. This concept of being world police where the US starts putting people in jail in the US for things that THEY DID IN OTHER COUNTRIES is concerning.
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I think that the rules should be that where you have committed the crime then that would be the one to have jurisdiction over you. AND if you commit it on another country then that country would be the one to chase and uphold you responsible.
That's the way it has been yes. Extradition has existed and can be used to bypass this. The concept of a one world government is growing though so this is changing. Can you commit crime outside your country, and then get in trouble for it when you return? What if what you do doesn't affect your country but is still illegal in your country? Does it matter if the person committing the crime outside his or her country is a citizen of his or her country?
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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no i'm not do like that because i respect to my country rules and regulation. i love my country if it is few small small funny things means i have to break but otherwise it is serious i did not break my country law. our country is equal to our mother so how can we break our law. i did not commit to doing any crimes. and taking more responsibility to my country. i love my country.
It is impossible to violate the laws, even in another country. In my opinion this is wrong. All people should be law-abiding. Very sorry that many are breaking the law.
Can you commit crime outside your country, and then get in trouble for it when you return? What if what you do doesn't affect your country but is still illegal in your country? Does it matter if the person committing the crime outside his or her country is a citizen of his or her country?
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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Changed title for clarification.
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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Changed title for clarification.
I think that the rules should be that where you have committed the crime then that would be the one to have jurisdiction over you. AND if you commit it on another country then that country would be the one to chase and uphold you responsible.
The answer is yes... IMO. For example, gambling and prostitution is illegal here in India. So the rich Indians usually travel to places such as Macau for gambling, and Thailand/Cambodia.etc for prostitutes. No one takes criminal action against these people. The only consequence is that the Indian government loses valuable tax money and countries such as Macau are gaining them.
you need to respect law, what ever the contry, that law should be respected no matter what out side or inside ur contry
Unless you're part of the one world order global law conspiracy you should know that every country has different laws.
you need to respect law, what ever the contry, that law should be respected no matter what out side or inside ur contry
Is being under the influence illegal in your country?
In my country it is all about drugs. If I were to go to another country which drugs are legal I would not be held liable and therefore I am free to do it as long as I am not in My own country. But ofcourse I can never go back in My country as long as I am under the influence of drugs, otherwise I will be punished.
I realize that the old title is misleading, as it suggests the topic is about people who wish to break their country's laws who move to different countries to escape this. Of course they find out that their activities are often illegal in the other country as well, and they go to jail.
What I really meant was can you get in trouble with YOUR country's laws while being in a different country?
The classic example is living, working, and being paid outside of the United States or Uruguay (it has a similar income tax) and getting in trouble for not paying taxes to the USA.
What I really meant was can you get in trouble with YOUR country's laws while being in a different country?
The classic example is living, working, and being paid outside of the United States or Uruguay (it has a similar income tax) and getting in trouble for not paying taxes to the USA.
I have seen many cases here in our country that a foreign people do their illegal business here. They think that our country is not that tight so they do their dirty business here like making illegal drugs and stuffs. But in the end, they end up going to prison, not the prison in their home country but prison here. That shows us that it is not an excuse if you are a foreign men here in our home land, that does not mean you can do all your illegal work in a foreign country, every country has their own laws and no one is above it.
if i go to a country i would be a guest of that country.
NO!!! Breaking laws in YOUR country while in a different country!
In addition to the principle of law: Not knowing the law does not allow you to obey it, any person must respect the financial and investment rules of each country, due to the technology of the Web, there are no borders for trading, but in the case of USA OFAC and The Department of the Treasury, the rules extend outside American jurisdiction
Yes. of course you may. but it doesn't mean you'll be exempted to whatever law they have. However the penalty still varies depending in which country you committed such crime 
I can not commit a crime at all. Is it that either me or my close people will have something or someone to threaten. Then probably I can commit a crime. And it does not matter what kind of country it is.
I, too, can not commit crimes regardless of what country I am in. It is necessary to observe the laws so that it does not lead to chaos in the world.
I can not commit a crime at all. Is it that either me or my close people will have something or someone to threaten. Then probably I can commit a crime. And it does not matter what kind of country it is.
Doesn't this depend on whether that country has extradition treaties with your country? I am not well versed about this issue though. But kids, crime doesn't pay.
if i go to a country i would be a guest of that country so i have my own responsibility to be decent as long as i can
i went to visit a country but i did not follow rule because i did not know that rules.Police take it as my mistake and give me another opportunity for not doing same mistake again
so i made mistake not crime...
i went to visit a country but i did not follow rule because i did not know that rules.Police take it as my mistake and give me another opportunity for not doing same mistake again
so i made mistake not crime...
Well when it comes to Bitcoin (or other cryptocurrency) you need to be smart about how you deal with it. Don't leave markers or clues about your dealings, if you're in a situation that you are posing. The government in question would have to expend resources to prove that you did anything illegal. If you covered your dealings by not leaving markers for them to find then they can't prove that you did anything wrong. That's the nature of cryptocurrencies, it's supposed to be outside of government control. Part of that is they don't know everything that happens on the network.
If your country outlaws Bitcoins, and you are using Bitcoins abroad, you could be in trouble in your country when you get back. In some cases you could be extradited back to your country, if say for instance your country claims that you are dealing Bitcoins in their country from outside. If you are one of their citizens (which is something that they decide) then it gives them more power.
These are the kinds of situations that I'm thinking of.
These are the kinds of situations that I'm thinking of.
In addition to the principle of law: Not knowing the law does not allow you to obey it, any person must respect the financial and investment rules of each country, due to the technology of the Web, there are no borders for trading, but in the case of USA OFAC and The Department of the Treasury, the rules extend outside American jurisdiction
Can you commit crime outside your country, and then get in trouble for it when you return? What if what you do doesn't affect your country but is still illegal in your country? Does it matter if the person committing the crime outside his or her country is a citizen of his or her country?
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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Changed title for clarification.
For instance, what if you have insider knowledge of the stock market, and you're investing in a way that's illegal, but you are living and working outside of the United States?
As far as the United States goes it seems that they don't always acknowledge where their jurisdiction ends. I know the US has a big exemption list that includes many western countries or other socialist countries that have their own income tax, but other than that they say that you're supposed to pay taxes to the USA on non US dollars that you earned while working and living outside of the the country!
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