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Topic: Can you pass stakes proof of income verfiication? (Read 421 times)

hero member
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I am not a high roller so I guess I won't be included in this one.
But I am kind of curious about those who will need to fill this up. Will there really be a problem since there must be a source of where the money is coming from?
About the deposit from the other gambling site. This is something else, I think it can be explained as to why you are transferring it to them.
One good reason that I could think of is the lack of availability of the games you like on the old platform that you are using.
Showing proof of it might help. I mean, who doesn't like new customers?
High rollers have bigger amount of bankroll, so it’s a necessary thing for them to show their proof of income. But like me who is just a regular gambler, I don’t think I am obliged to that. Stakes only need proofs when there is huge amount concern. Other than that, we are free to gamble and withraw funds on a small basis. But if ever it will be compulsory in the future, I think I’m not willing to do that and completely disclose my privacy.
hero member
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I don't really understand why your income should be of any concern to the casino. Doesn't a casino only allow you to Gamble with the money you deposited at the casino first? So as long as the casino doesn't provide credit for the gambler the financial situation should be no real concern for the casino. Requiring KYC is one thing and verifying your address by showing utility bills is fine. But providing documents that show your salary is something different. So far no casino has requested to show that details and I am not sure how I would respond to the request. Hopefully this is not going to be another trend in the gambling industry where many casino will follow and make it mandatory. And what if you are in between jobs, will you then not be allowed to gamble anymore? Even if you have a lot of money in your bank account?
This is what I don’t like the most when gambling, there are times that they get too personal and even want us to disclose our privacy by asking some personal documents. I’m not really sure if I will pass, but if ever I won a huge amount and the only way for me to withdraw it is through passing first my proofs of income, then maybe I can do that. But for some reasons, although Stake is a reputable one, I still want to avoid something like this as they can use my documents for some other matters that may ruin my own privacy and credibility.
legendary
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I am not that deep into gambling but if it happens that on a certain day, I got so lucky that I won an amount that will warrant Stake requesting a proof of income from me for verification, I think I can pass it.
I've read all that is required and I can provide some of it based on what is requested for.

But on a personal level, I think passing a normal kyc should put all this request of proof of income verification behind, what is the essence of purpose of this providing this document?
hero member
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I don't really understand why your income should be of any concern to the casino. Doesn't a casino only allow you to Gamble with the money you deposited at the casino first? So as long as the casino doesn't provide credit for the gambler the financial situation should be no real concern for the casino. Requiring KYC is one thing and verifying your address by showing utility bills is fine. But providing documents that show your salary is something different. So far no casino has requested to show that details and I am not sure how I would respond to the request. Hopefully this is not going to be another trend in the gambling industry where many casino will follow and make it mandatory. And what if you are in between jobs, will you then not be allowed to gamble anymore? Even if you have a lot of money in your bank account?
sr. member
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I am not sure, let's say you are working as a freelancer which doesn't have any bank statements, etc or anything from the choices and you use that money to play gambling and let's say you win. Does it mean that your winnings wouldn't be valid because you use money from unknown source but in reality it was from freelancing job?

So unless you have formal work or corporate work, you are not a valid player and could be risky to use Stake?
legendary
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And yet many of us here picked that they are not sure if we can pass the proof of income verification there are a lot of options and you only need to pass one but if you have spent a lot of money and you can not back it up with documents they allow then that's the time that you will be in trouble so its best to always play with money that you can back up not only money that you can afford to lose.
Maybe they don't know whether they can pass income verification because many play crypto gambling to find fun. And we really have to be able to play using the money we can afford to control everything properly. And to verify that, if we've only been playing with small money all this time, it's likely that the casinos won't mind either because we're not gamblers playing with big money. But indeed, we must be prepared if the casino asks or asks us to verify our income. But let's hope we won't be asked to do so.
I agree, this might only promote discrimination in this industry. Not all gamblers are willing to lose huge amount of money and for sure there are players who are here just to kill time and not to dream of being rich.
Here a bank statement of money received from any medium is required for account verification.  But first of all I do not support it and I will not give my bank statement to any gambling site.  Because if these documents are sold in places like Darkweb.  My bank account may attacked by a powerful hackers .  But if I go to a trusted site to gamble and have a large fund deposited there, then if they don't allow me to withdraw that fund without proof of income, then I will be forced to do so.  So I'm not sure if I'll do it or not it depends on the casino's reliability
Online gambling industry is under web 3.0 and that means decentralization is being supported here. And such thing would only complicate things. How would it be decentralized if wallets would be monitored in particular with gains? Gambling sites has nothing to do with players' earnings. And if they do, they should also mind the losses to be equal 'coz if they are only after gains to allow a player to continue, they are nothing less than government of different countries.

Last thing. There are players who are playing on multiple gambling sites. That would be a lot of work on their end to verify whether announced values are legitimate or not. They should rather focus on improving the ',game' than to look into such thing players won't comply.
hero member
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Here a bank statement of money received from any medium is required for account verification.  But first of all I do not support it and I will not give my bank statement to any gambling site.  Because if these documents are sold in places like Darkweb.  My bank account may attacked by a powerful hackers .  But if I go to a trusted site to gamble and have a large fund deposited there, then if they don't allow me to withdraw that fund without proof of income, then I will be forced to do so.  So I'm not sure if I'll do it or not it depends on the casino's reliability
hero member
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And yet many of us here picked that they are not sure if we can pass the proof of income verification there are a lot of options and you only need to pass one but if you have spent a lot of money and you can not back it up with documents they allow then that's the time that you will be in trouble so its best to always play with money that you can back up not only money that you can afford to lose.
Maybe they don't know whether they can pass income verification because many play crypto gambling to find fun. And we really have to be able to play using the money we can afford to control everything properly. And to verify that, if we've only been playing with small money all this time, it's likely that the casinos won't mind either because we're not gamblers playing with big money. But indeed, we must be prepared if the casino asks or asks us to verify our income. But let's hope we won't be asked to do so.
legendary
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All the requirements are good and complete, you can pass any of these as long as it did not exceed your bankroll if you have a big bankroll or wage a big amount of money, if you're going to play be sure you read this first because there's a time limit on all
these documents and be sure you have a job so you can sustain your gambling session and gamble within your means.

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All documents must be issued within the last 6 months and need to be in Latin international format
hero member
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if all of your income comes from the bounty campaign it will be denied and you will fail the verification.
Is there any proof to back up your words? what if the gambler is gamble on stake and the funds come from stake campaign? obviously they're know how long their campaign will last and he wouldn't lie about it. Having a job in your country doesn't always mean his job is fixed and he's also genuine to report his income because he could fake the proof easily.

Although many users will doubt if Stake will ask for low amount money, but there's a chance if the system trigger false positive.
full member
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the poll is to check if real gamblers can pass the proof of income at stake and other casino's
here is the requirements:
https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds
winning funds from another casino is not acceptable

I have two documents that I can submit and pass their proof of income verification, salary, and salep property if they asked me today to undergo proof of income verification, there are a lot of ways to prove it but its best to always have a business or a job outside of Cryptocurrency if you are going to gamble because if all of your income comes from the bounty campaign it will be denied and you will fail the verification.
legendary
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anyone with a salary paid through a bank account is able to pass such a check.
(more or less all bettors in western countries who have a more or less stable job).
Obviously if you bet 100K usd and receive 500usd per month it's really difficult, indeed impossible to overcome it.

Since we are talking about a site that manages cryptocurrencies, a "proof of bitcoin purchase", for example from a bank statement, would also have been interesting.
Additionally, I believe winning from another (reputable) casino should be included.

I don't know how such a thing can be proven legally.
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A Gift from a family member or close relative ( You will need to send us a donor's letter explaining the reason for the gift and the source of their wealth. Also, we will require certified identification documents from donor )
Do you need a notary who certifies the donation? It's ok a letter with documents from donor?
full member
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I had other works offline apart from the forum. I am receiving decent salary from my offline job. So I feel it’s enough to enroll in bank account. When the account is salary account, they won’t investigate your salary account because you get certain amount every month. And you will hold certain part of salary to use on gambling. Playing gambling will allow to earn more.
Having your real job can make things easy for you especially on providing such documents, and if its ok for you then why not.
Many are just having profit from crypto, and if a site still asking for some proof of income hopefully those site will always accept a proof of account here in cryptomarket, either an exchange account or just a wallet details, because if they will not accept it then how a crypto enthusiast will pass those verification, maybe they have to consider this.
sr. member
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I'm afraid I won't pass this proof of income verification. I'm living on savings. If I provide proofs of my weekly salary it might not be accepted as well since it is not in the form of bank statement indicating receipt of my salary. I don't have a payslip, either.

This is exactly the same thing that I am having a hard time whenever the bank asks for an update on my account. I cannot provide them official documents that support my money.
I think many of us can relate when it comes to this matter. We usually lack documents therefore the things that we do are only limited. The only documents that most of us have are the very basic ones but anyway I think this proof of income from stake is not mandatory so stake players shouldn't worry. What I know is that this are only needed for higher levels of KYC verification.

We can still pass the first or second level by submitting basic documents. Again this isn't mandatory. This is the good thing about stake but we must only be careful when depositing and winning big amounts because that maybe be the time they will ask about it.
legendary
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I had other works offline apart from the forum. I am receiving decent salary from my offline job. So I feel it’s enough to enroll in bank account. When the account is salary account, they won’t investigate your salary account because you get certain amount every month. And you will hold certain part of salary to use on gambling. Playing gambling will allow to earn more. So it’s easy take that balance to the bank accounts and use for our personal expenses. When we had regular salary we can use this for the gambling and for the longer period. It’s easy to earn good money from the gambling with certain period of time.
hero member
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My salary alone from my offline is just enough to cover my bankroll plus my income from the signature campaign, gamblers of Stake.com should understand that Stake is a fully compliant casino and if you're going to have a huge bankroll you should be aware of what they are going to ask in case they ask you to verify your account, this condition also applies to every casino that you are going to play, it should be 20 to 30% of your salary if you pick coming from your salary.
hero member
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the poll is to check if real gamblers can pass the proof of income at stake and other casino's
here is the requirements:
https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds
winning funds from another casino is not acceptable
The salary option to pass the proof of income verification might be the simplest on those listed. That's if you have a job on a company. But I have experienced flexible KYC companies that accepts proof of income from freelancers too, like me. All they need are paperworks, withdrawal amounts, anything near on how you made that money as long as it's legal.
It's a very different world now and lots of people are doing their own small business.
IMO, this is just formality, they don't want to be messing around and them being punished when proven about money laundering.
hero member
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I'm not sure what Stake's income verification requirements are, but I assume that most people would be able to pass them.  They aren't there to try and scare players away.  They're there to make sure the casino can still continue operating legally.  I'm sure a couple of paycheck stubs or bank account screenshots would probably do the trick, but who knows.  Nowadays some places want multiple years of tax returns and proof of residence.  As others have stated though, this is for the big boys with a lot to gamble.  I don't think they're harassing users who bet a few dollars a week for the fun of it.

And yet many of us here picked that they are not sure if we can pass the proof of income verification there are a lot of options and you only need to pass one but if you have spent a lot of money and you can not back it up with documents they allow then that's the time that you will be in trouble so its best to always play with money that you can back up not only money that you can afford to lose.


yes   - 6 (46.2%)
no   - 2 (15.4%)
not sure   - 5 (38.5%)
I don't gamble but want to see the results   - 0 (0%)
hero member
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That's a relief for signature participants. Those who earn from other campaigns or some who are just trading may just have some problems with this. But like usual, they may just ask for the source of funds for those high rollers.

They're not asking just the KYC this time. Stake asking all these means other casinos will also do. Only the DEXes don't require documents.
I'd actually think it's more of just a proper source as to where the funds actually came from (except for casino wins as OP's words) and KYC only came as a side thing since it's needed to verify whether the source of funds you actually sent was legal and properly tied to an identity. I guess it's their own method of guarding against money laundering or something similar.
winning funds from another casino is not acceptable
That means the casino where you won those funds will ask for the source of funds from you. Maybe Stake will consider it if you show it to them.
I actually think it's allowed, I never really saw in OPs post where it said that casino winnings weren't allowed. I mean technically it should fall under to something similar to lottery winnings, and as indicated, users just need to show proof of their deposit as well as source for said deposit which is enough imo.
legendary
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I can pass on their two requirements because it can support the amount of money I wager on all the casinos I'm playing not really a high roller player I understand that this is for the last 6 months, I just sold a property three months ago so it's still qualified as part of the document, but if your main source of income is bounty or projects from Cryptocurrency, you will have a hard time because they only accept mining, I hope they added more options for online Crypto free lancers.

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Salary ( You will need to send us a recent bank statement indicating receipt of your salary or the original of your payslip )
Sale of property ( You will need to send us a copy of the contract of sale and a bank statement showing the proceeds of the sale )
legendary
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If I understand correctly, the OP meant who managed to provide documents about their income in accordance with the list. which have been verified by stake. For example, I don't have such a need since I play on stake.com only by what I get from the signature campaign.

I do the same and I also play with deposited money of my own but since stake is well known to have whales at VIP levels IV which have wagered a huge amount for these persons sure they need KYC and proof of income as it is natural for any entity,in this case stake casino to have doubts that maybe money laundering is taking place through their website and they don't want to have legal problems with the law because of such happenings.

Most likely these whales always have a solid proof of income verification which entitles them to keep playing there at these high levels,some wager more than 100.000 dollars daily there so for this it is an absolute necessity to have proof of income.

VIP Level can be achieved without being a whales, means that VIP level IV is not always a whale. Some normal people can reach this level within years by betting small amount as long as they play regularly. Imo Proof of Income verification has nothing to do with VIP level, it is more about how much a players spend (deposit/withdraw). A new user can be asked to verify proof of income if there is something suspicious. By the way, looking at the list of accepted document for proof of income. I my self believe that I can verify proof of income because I own betslip, but I will never do it because I do not want to reveal my real name, the company name where I work, etc.
legendary
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I'm afraid I won't pass this proof of income verification. I'm living on savings. If I provide proofs of my weekly salary it might not be accepted as well since it is not in the form of bank statement indicating receipt of my salary. I don't have a payslip, either.

This is exactly the same thing that I am having a hard time whenever the bank asks for an update on my account. I cannot provide them official documents that support my money.
hero member
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Based on your question, I guess you're asking if we have any of the listed documents for presentation at stake.com for proof of income verification if yes then yes I have over three of the listed documents for presentation if the need arises some day.
But from my perspective, I really don't see any reasons for all this long proof of income verification bevaue one can still show you a nice proof of income for verification and still end up Indulging in a whole lot of criminal activities on the site and because he has proven and passed his proof of income verification, automatically he wouldn't be noticed because a prove of income verification has been successfully done and all transactions under such a user might be tagged pure.
legendary
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I voted not sure since I don't think I could pass the verification if Stake suddenly requires that personal information right now but I'll probably pass it in the future if my account somehow reaches that point.

If I understand correctly, the OP meant who managed to provide documents about their income in accordance with the list. which have been verified by stake. For example, I don't have such a need since I play on stake.com only by what I get from the signature campaign.
It still depends because even if you're only putting in a small deposit you could still trigger their KYC if you suddenly get a big win. The chances for this to happen are very low but it can still happen so it doesn't hurt to prepare.
legendary
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If I understand correctly, the OP meant who managed to provide documents about their income in accordance with the list. which have been verified by stake. For example, I don't have such a need since I play on stake.com only by what I get from the signature campaign.

I do the same and I also play with deposited money of my own but since stake is well known to have whales at VIP levels IV which have wagered a huge amount for these persons sure they need KYC and proof of income as it is natural for any entity,in this case stake casino to have doubts that maybe money laundering is taking place through their website and they don't want to have legal problems with the law because of such happenings.

Most likely these whales always have a solid proof of income verification which entitles them to keep playing there at these high levels,some wager more than 100.000 dollars daily there so for this it is an absolute necessity to have proof of income.
legendary
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If I understand correctly, the OP meant who managed to provide documents about their income in accordance with the list. which have been verified by stake. For example, I don't have such a need since I play on stake.com only by what I get from the signature campaign.
hero member
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I don't know if I can do KYC on that site because if I play at any casino, I don't use a lot of money and don't try to chase victory.
If I feel I have had enough of gambling, I will stop immediately and never have the ambition to achieve a certain target.
I also don't want to attach proof of income because, it is my secret and I don't need to give it to anyone.
Hopefully I won't be asked to do KYC by any casino.
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Any of those that are listed.

I think it's essential to pass on it when you've been winning big time in them or with any casino. As said, this is just another part of the process when someone is asked for KYC.

And when someone has got to this point where he's asked for the verification for the proof of income, it's likely that you've been depositing and withdrawing quite such amounts in them.
legendary
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Stake only fulfills the requirements of the regulators and everyone who gambles online should be prepared to provide documents to prove the origin of the money.

In fact, all these requirements are easily circumvented. Many of us know that on some OTCs you can order any kind of certificate that is indistinguishable from the real one. So I don't judge how well this system works and who it protects.
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I'm not sure what Stake's income verification requirements are, but I assume that most people would be able to pass them.  They aren't there to try and scare players away.  They're there to make sure the casino can still continue operating legally.  I'm sure a couple of paycheck stubs or bank account screenshots would probably do the trick, but who knows.  Nowadays some places want multiple years of tax returns and proof of residence.  As others have stated though, this is for the big boys with a lot to gamble.  I don't think they're harassing users who bet a few dollars a week for the fun of it.
hero member
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the poll is to check if real gamblers can pass the proof of income at stake and other casino's
here is the requirements:
https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds
winning funds from another casino is not acceptable
I think most of us here that works at a 9-5 will pass this proof of income verification with flying colors even. But I don't see the point as to why such rules must be imposed. I mean, what does getting my proof of income have to do with me trying to enjoy a quick gamble? I get that these casinos try their hardest to ensure that hackers are kept at an arm's length, however I don't see the benefits of imposing such rules over your regulars, especially if it's a cryptocurrency casino. Some of us here claim funds directly from crypto in numerous ways, some of them barred by the parameters you have given, at best, it's just gonna stop a couple of unemployed hackers from ever-getting their hands on your funds, in its worst, it's bound to cause a casino to lose a considerable amount of their customers.
legendary
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I am not a high roller so I guess I won't be included in this one.
But I am kind of curious about those who will need to fill this up. Will there really be a problem since there must be a source of where the money is coming from?
About the deposit from the other gambling site. This is something else, I think it can be explained as to why you are transferring it to them.
One good reason that I could think of is the lack of availability of the games you like on the old platform that you are using.
Showing proof of it might help. I mean, who doesn't like new customers?

Well, I am not a high roller as well, so I think I would pass this "income verification" easily. By the way, this is the first time I see this type of verification needed in any crypto casino, but I guess by some "regulations" casinos can ask some players about the source of funds.

New casinos like new customers, but if they need to follow some rules it's not up to them whether will they accept all deposits without additional verifications. I wonder what can trigger this particular verification, and what needs to happen that will make a Stake team act and ask someone to provide proof o income...
sr. member
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I can't find anywhere on the written requirements that funds from another casino is not accepted. I think this fall under the variation of lottery winnings where you need to send a copy of the source of fund you used in betting or wagering before you win the amount.
When profits or wins from other forms of gambling is not listed then the safe assumption is that it is not accepted. The memo looks very specific and detailed. They could have written "lottery or other winnings" if they wanted some variations and that would most likely include those from other casinos. It's better to suggest the OP to confirm it directly with Stake's support.

legendary
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someone takes 100$ from his bank account and starts to day trade for many months, then that person takes the profit from the day trade and starts to place sports bets in the casino then, the casino asks that person to provide proof of income, how will that person provide proof of income if this person earns money day trading?
There's an buy and order history recorded on your account, some exchanges also count the profit and loss in USD at that time too. But if your exchanges doesn't have it, at least they can show which date you bought the coin, which time it's, how much it's.

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this also applies to a person who takes 100$ from the bank account, buys bitcoin at the price of 100$ and does hodl and then manages to turn the 100$ into 66000$, then sells it and buys it again at 15000$, leaving many bitcoins, and then start playing at the online casino and when the online casino asks you for proof of income how will that person provide proof of income?
Like I said before, you can see when you bought your coins, of course since there's a site who record Bitcoin price when it's still less than $1,000/BTC, they can know if you're genuine bought Bitcoin at the cheap price and hold it until the price skyrocketed.
I think they should clarify that they'll accept this kind of income because right now it looks like mining is the only acceptable way as a "proof of income" when it comes to cryptocurrency. anyway, if stake.com is lax with their proof of income verification I think what Slow death mentioned would fall under "Sales of shared or other investments / liquidation of investment portfolio / bonds".
legendary
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someone takes 100$ from his bank account and starts to day trade for many months, then that person takes the profit from the day trade and starts to place sports bets in the casino then, the casino asks that person to provide proof of income, how will that person provide proof of income if this person earns money day trading?
There's an buy and order history recorded on your account, some exchanges also count the profit and loss in USD at that time too. But if your exchanges doesn't have it, at least they can show which date you bought the coin, which time it's, how much it's.

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this also applies to a person who takes 100$ from the bank account, buys bitcoin at the price of 100$ and does hodl and then manages to turn the 100$ into 66000$, then sells it and buys it again at 15000$, leaving many bitcoins, and then start playing at the online casino and when the online casino asks you for proof of income how will that person provide proof of income?
Like I said before, you can see when you bought your coins, of course since there's a site who record Bitcoin price when it's still less than $1,000/BTC, they can know if you're genuine bought Bitcoin at the cheap price and hold it until the price skyrocketed.
legendary
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Without a doubt, this has been the most annoying part I see in KYC because there are a lot of headaches, when a casino asks for proof of income, most people are unable to provide proof of income, for example: someone takes 100$ from his bank account and starts to day trade for many months, then that person takes the profit from the day trade and starts to place sports bets in the casino then, the casino asks that person to provide proof of income, how will that person provide proof of income if this person earns money day trading? this also applies to a person who takes 100$ from the bank account, buys bitcoin at the price of 100$ and does hodl and then manages to turn the 100$ into 66000$, then sells it and buys it again at 15000$, leaving many bitcoins, and then start playing at the online casino and when the online casino asks you for proof of income how will that person provide proof of income?
legendary
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I am not a high roller so I guess I won't be included in this one.
But I am kind of curious about those who will need to fill this up. Will there really be a problem since there must be a source of where the money is coming from?
About the deposit from the other gambling site. This is something else, I think it can be explained as to why you are transferring it to them.
One good reason that I could think of is the lack of availability of the games you like on the old platform that you are using.
Showing proof of it might help. I mean, who doesn't like new customers?
legendary
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I think they only ask it to the high rollers and since they are high rollers and have got nothing to hide it should be extremely easy for them to provide source and proof of funds.I play with deposited money from my own and also with signature campaign earnings in the stake website and never had any problems,the withdrawals come as fast as almost instantly.Of course I am a low ball in the sense that the max win I had was 2000 dollars and this is a ridiculous amount for casinos like stake,yet they didn't ask me any thing and made the withdraw go through,most probably because I won that with signature earnings so they new the source of the funds already.
legendary
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winning funds from another casino is not acceptable

Winning funds is not a source of income as compared to the Winning the Lottery said where there is documentation and bank statement proving you got the funds legally. This is where they really are checking possible laundering activity.

There is no escape now. If they require users who have withdrawn big amounts who had passed KYC long before the implementation of income verification, its possible they will not submit this time.
hero member
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But come on, if I have to provide all the documentation to be able to bet at Stake, they're not going to see me there, with all the options there are where you can deposit, bet and that's it.
I don't think you need ALL, they just need to match whether the funds you deposited were properly supported by whatever document you presented and if it fits I guess you're all fine. It'd be a problem if say you deposit $100 but only sent documented proof of getting $50. I reckon most would probably put up Salary in as proof anw (I reckon Sig campaign rewards would be included there instead?), so it'd probably be pretty easy for most to provide proofs if they wanted.

Well, if you use your signature income for gambling, you should be covered... because every Signature campaign has some spreadsheet to show the deposits. You just have to show some proof of your ownership of the Bitcoin address where the funds are paid into (Signed Bitcoin address)

I am lucky, because I have an original Pay slip and I can provide a new pay slip for every month... even though none of my salary are going into gambling.  Wink  (It just pays for my other expenses, so that I can use my extra income for some gambling)


That's a relief for signature participants. Those who earn from other campaigns or some who are just trading may just have some problems with this. But like usual, they may just ask for the source of funds for those high rollers.

They're not asking just the KYC this time. Stake asking all these means other casinos will also do. Only the DEXes don't require documents.

winning funds from another casino is not acceptable

That means the casino where you won those funds will ask for the source of funds from you. Maybe Stake will consider it if you show it to them.
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But come on, if I have to provide all the documentation to be able to bet at Stake, they're not going to see me there, with all the options there are where you can deposit, bet and that's it.
I don't think you need ALL, they just need to match whether the funds you deposited were properly supported by whatever document you presented and if it fits I guess you're all fine. It'd be a problem if say you deposit $100 but only sent documented proof of getting $50. I reckon most would probably put up Salary in as proof anw (I reckon Sig campaign rewards would be included there instead?), so it'd probably be pretty easy for most to provide proofs if they wanted.

Well, if you use your signature income for gambling, you should be covered... because every Signature campaign has some spreadsheet to show the deposits. You just have to show some proof of your ownership of the Bitcoin address where the funds are paid into (Signed Bitcoin address)

I am lucky, because I have an original Pay slip and I can provide a new pay slip for every month... even though none of my salary are going into gambling.  Wink  (It just pays for my other expenses, so that I can use my extra income for some gambling)
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But come on, if I have to provide all the documentation to be able to bet at Stake, they're not going to see me there, with all the options there are where you can deposit, bet and that's it.
I don't think you need ALL, they just need to match whether the funds you deposited were properly supported by whatever document you presented and if it fits I guess you're all fine. It'd be a problem if say you deposit $100 but only sent documented proof of getting $50. I reckon most would probably put up Salary in as proof anw (I reckon Sig campaign rewards would be included there instead?), so it'd probably be pretty easy for most to provide proofs if they wanted.
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I can't access the site, I get an error message, but as far as I can see it's the same requirement that the banks make. It's like WTF that they won't serve you funds won at another casino. I guess it's all AML policy. But come on, if I have to provide all the documentation to be able to bet at Stake, they're not going to see me there, with all the options there are where you can deposit, bet and that's it.

quoting what is written on the link: provided by @OP in case some have problem accessing the site

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Acceptable documents for source of funds

 
Written by Marko
Updated over a week ago
Please note that the compliance team reserves the rights to request any document they might need.

You can use one of the following documents to verify your source of funds:

Salary ( You will need to send us a recent bank statement indicating receipt of your salary or original of your payslip )

Sales of shared or other investments / liquidation of investment portfolio / bonds ( You will need to send us a bank statement clearly showing receipt of funds and investment company name or interest on bonds received )

Sale of property ( You will need to send us a copy of the contract of sale and a bank statement showing the proceeds of the sale )

Inheritance ( You will need to send us a copy of the deceased's will, and a bank statement showing the received funds, along with your current balance )

Company sale ( You will need to send us a letter detailing company sale signed by a licensed solicitor or regulated accountant on letter-headed paper )

A Gift from a family member or close relative ( You will need to send us a donor's letter explaining the reason for the gift and the source of their wealth. Also, we will require certified identification documents from donor )

Winning the Lottery ( You will need to send us a receipt of winnings and documentation e.g. bank statement showing the origin of the funds initially deposited )

Divorce settlement ( You will need to send us a divorce settlement agreement and bank statement clearly showing receipt of funds )

Loan ( You will need to send us an executed copy of the loan agreement and a bank statement showing the received funds along with your current balance )

Mining ( You will need to send us a ledger of the amount of cryptocurrency mined, as well as a wallet address and transaction hash to which the mined cryptocurrency was delivered )

Your source of funds document must meet the following requirements:
Please upload an original photo or a PDF file of the documents, screenshots will not be accepted
All documents must be issued within the last 6 months and need to be in Latin international format
Shows your full name and address
Shows the name of issuing entity and date of issue
The whole sheet of paper is visible in the photo



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winning funds from another casino is not acceptable

I can't find anywhere on the written requirements that funds from another casino is not accepted. I think this fall under the variation of lottery winnings where you need to send a copy of the source of fund you used in betting or wagering before you win the amount.

I believe there are variations that fall under those categories.  I believe the casino is flexible in verifying your source of fund as long as you can establish where your fund is coming from. Like for example, if you are a part of a signature campaign, it is under the salary category wherein you need to present documents that shows that your fund comes from advertising a certain casino or company.   
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I can't access the site, I get an error message, but as far as I can see it's the same requirement that the banks make. It's like WTF that they won't serve you funds won at another casino. I guess it's all AML policy. But come on, if I have to provide all the documentation to be able to bet at Stake, they're not going to see me there, with all the options there are where you can deposit, bet and that's it.
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the poll is to check if real gamblers can pass the proof of income at stake and other casino's
here is the requirements:
https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds
winning funds from another casino is not acceptable
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