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Topic: Canadian Adult Pair of Mammoth Tusks (Read 13035 times)

legendary
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December 23, 2015, 02:50:12 PM
#60
dude can you post a pic of the items next to a piece of paper with "bitcointalk.org eat my mammoth 23-12-15" handwritten on it and I might be interested...

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but OP has not been back online since:

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legendary
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December 22, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
#59
dude can you post a pic of the items next to a piece of paper with "bitcointalk.org eat my mammoth 23-12-15" handwritten on it and I might be interested...
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January 30, 2015, 10:29:47 PM
#58
Just wanted to say that this is an awesome listing!

People would have done just fine if you didnt say that, but lets face it you did it to increase your post count to meet this week's signature quota. Typical you.

Likewise with you Roll Eyes.

I don't see a signature in johnniewalker's signature space. Don't quote me or you might just be bumping your own post count!

Off course I am bumping my post count and yeah my bad, looks like the campaign he was in was over or he is no longer a part of it.
(Pssst. Here's the secret, I dont like him)
legendary
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January 30, 2015, 10:26:26 PM
#57
Just wanted to say that this is an awesome listing!

People would have done just fine if you didnt say that, but lets face it you did it to increase your post count to meet this week's signature quota. Typical you.

Likewise with you Roll Eyes.

I don't see a signature in johnniewalker's signature space. Don't quote me or you might just be bumping your own post count!
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January 30, 2015, 09:40:56 PM
#56
Just wanted to say that this is an awesome listing!

People would have done just fine if you didnt say that, but lets face it you did it to increase your post count to meet this week's signature quota. Typical you.
legendary
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January 25, 2015, 06:18:15 AM
#55
Just wanted to say that this is an awesome listing!
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January 24, 2015, 07:48:27 PM
#54
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.

Hmm I'm no expert on mammoth tusk prices.  Cheesy How much do you think they should be?


The regular tusks that my city museum keeps purchasing are a bit shorter than what is shown here in the pictures, and they are imported from Russia as well.
A properly graded mammoth tusk of this size is priced around $5000 - $20000 at best in an auction setting.
The last mammoth tusk piece I saw was the front part of the tooth, the segment was about 4 feet in length the guy imported it for roughly 2.5 lakh rupees ($4032) including taxes and all.

Then again neither am I a collector, nor do I know what is special about this particular piece besides it's size.

For the closest present day comparable approach, considering to legally go hunt Bull Elephants in Africa you first have to pay for a license apx. $20,000 USD.  Then add travel expenses, guides,  taxidermy costs, etc. The only aspect counter weighing all that is the time costs of the individual whom can afford to do this is quite high, so tack on an additional demand variable in a range of $50,000 - $500,000 USD..  So unless the actual adventure experience value remains higher than the grand total here, you should expect this trophy to fetch anywhere from $35,000- $650,000.00 USD.


As far as hunting present day bull elephants are considered I dont think its allowed anymore these days especially with all the conservation efforts, and I support it, and most countries that have strict regulations which irrevocably forbids any kind of trade or collecting of exotic animal trophies.
Trophy Hunting Business in Africa is definitely still doing well and good..
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/05/06/controversy-swirls-around-the-recent-u-s-suspension-of-sport-hunted-elephant-trophies/
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January 24, 2015, 07:45:28 PM
#53
"I have no training or expertise."

Then why are you posting at all?
I just have to shake my head at the logic and thinking of some people.
I do know now for certain that vleroybrown is definitely not Satoshi.

As for the valuation approaches that didn't allow specialised expertise, I'm absolutely sure the number are not totally off, In a historical or scientific context there is no reason for me to even presume to post figures. 
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January 24, 2015, 11:54:47 AM
#52
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.

Hmm I'm no expert on mammoth tusk prices.  Cheesy How much do you think they should be?


The regular tusks that my city museum keeps purchasing are a bit shorter than what is shown here in the pictures, and they are imported from Russia as well.
A properly graded mammoth tusk of this size is priced around $5000 - $20000 at best in an auction setting.
The last mammoth tusk piece I saw was the front part of the tooth, the segment was about 4 feet in length the guy imported it for roughly 2.5 lakh rupees ($4032) including taxes and all.

Then again neither am I a collector, nor do I know what is special about this particular piece besides it's size.

For the closest present day comparable approach, considering to legally go hunt Bull Elephants in Africa you first have to pay for a license apx. $20,000 USD.  Then add travel expenses, guides,  taxidermy costs, etc. The only aspect counter weighing all that is the time costs of the individual whom can afford to do this is quite high, so tack on an additional demand variable in a range of $50,000 - $500,000 USD..  So unless the actual adventure experience value remains higher than the grand total here, you should expect this trophy to fetch anywhere from $35,000- $650,000.00 USD.


As far as hunting present day bull elephants are considered I dont think its allowed anymore these days especially with all the conservation efforts, and I support it, and most countries that have strict regulations which irrevocably forbids any kind of trade or collecting of exotic animal trophies.
newbie
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January 21, 2015, 03:45:39 PM
#51
"I have no training or expertise."

Then why are you posting at all?
I just have to shake my head at the logic and thinking of some people.
I do know now for certain that vleroybrown is definitely not Satoshi.
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January 21, 2015, 11:24:45 AM
#50
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.

Hmm I'm no expert on mammoth tusk prices.  Cheesy How much do you think they should be?

Valuation approaches to the mammoth tusks can be assessed in a myriad of ways.


For the closest present day comparable approach, considering to legally go hunt Bull Elephants in Africa you first have to pay for a license apx. $20,000 USD.  Then add travel expenses, guides,  taxidermy costs, etc. The only aspect counter weighing all that is the time costs of the individual whom can afford to do this is quite high, so tack on an additional demand variable in a range of $50,000 - $500,000 USD..  So unless the actual adventure experience value remains higher than the grand total here, you should expect this trophy to fetch anywhere from $35,000- $650,000.00 USD.


From a intrinsic science valuation approach I have no training or expertise.

Finally from an Income Approach, one would expect this to be secured as part of a much larger package deal, allowing the buyer to generate fee income from patrons of however a particular commercial establishment capitalises on the public draw this particular piece adds to said collection.

Just my 2 bits..   
If it was me selling it, then an adventure aspect would be included in the asking price, making the piece much more about a life experience than just an object.   
legendary
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January 21, 2015, 04:40:35 AM
#49
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.

Hmm I'm no expert on mammoth tusk prices.  Cheesy How much do you think they should be?
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January 21, 2015, 04:39:31 AM
#48
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.
legendary
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January 21, 2015, 04:06:08 AM
#47
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!
legendary
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January 10, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
#46
One of the more interesting things for sale I have seen for sale here.

Yeah for sure, don't see these for sale every day Cheesy.
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January 10, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
#45
See people always misjudge me dont they :/ I did good here.
newbie
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January 09, 2015, 01:45:19 PM
#44
No worries.
It's all good
Cheers
sr. member
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January 09, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
#43
I replied because those are my tusks (which are still available) and my thread.
Cheers
whoops my mistake sorry for that Cheesy
newbie
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January 09, 2015, 01:29:50 PM
#42
I replied because those are my tusks (which are still available) and my thread.
Cheers
sr. member
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January 09, 2015, 12:55:37 PM
#41
"^ You resurrected the thread just to say that?"

Actually he is kind of right. The Japanese apperently managed to get some DNA from a Russian wooly mammoth in order to clone.
Personally I don't understand why but a newspaper cartoon showed 2 gentlemen discussing this and the last panel of the 'toon showed a mounted mammoth head on the wall behind him. That about says it all don't it?
ok but whats the point?he searched for an almost 1 year old thread just to say that the guy will be out of business. maybe he does not even sell it anymore
newbie
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January 09, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
#40
"^ You resurrected the thread just to say that?"

Actually he is kind of right. The Japanese apperently managed to get some DNA from a Russian wooly mammoth in order to clone.
Personally I don't understand why but a newspaper cartoon showed 2 gentlemen discussing this and the last panel of the 'toon showed a mounted mammoth head on the wall behind him. That about says it all don't it?
legendary
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January 09, 2015, 06:29:16 AM
#39
^ You resurrected the thread just to say that?

Still cool that there's a niche for these kinds of items, with BTC as payment.
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January 09, 2015, 05:44:28 AM
#38
Thanks rohnearner.
They are awesome and they are legal and conscience free anywhere in the world.
I've spent my whole artistic career since working with mammoth ivory in educating the public about these magnificent creatures and have been included in the mid-late 1980's into Canada's Who's Who for my efforts.
I've been crusading the use of mammoth ivory so as to help in the preservation of our modern day elephants.
TV interviews are here: richardmarcus.ca
Cheers

You'll be put out of business as soon as the real mammoth is resurrected !!
legendary
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March 30, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
#37
Hello roslinpl,
Thanks for the "WOW".
The tusks still never cease to amaze me even though I see them every day,
Cheers

Indeed it is amazing.
When you imagine how old those are and who was their 1st owner ... you cannot be not amazed and ceased Smiley

newbie
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March 30, 2014, 11:34:30 AM
#36
Hello roslinpl,
Thanks for the "WOW".
The tusks still never cease to amaze me even though I see them every day,
Cheers
legendary
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March 28, 2014, 08:32:27 AM
#35
WOW! Amazing items! Indeed amazing - little to expensive for my wallet, but Tongue ...
AMAZING!
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March 13, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
#34
Hello mnightwaffle,
Back in the day pre 1980's the price was very low because there was no interest.
Independent gold miners were leery about selling any "bone" finds that they may have found on their claim worrying that they'll get shut down for an archeological dig. The head of the Paleontological dept at the Museum of Man, now known as the Museum of Civilization, visited all the gold miners letting them know that he wasn't interested in shutting them down but requested that he be granted first refusal on any of the "bones" that they may have found. Items not selected by him were allowed to be disposed of in anyway that the miners wanted - cash, gold dust, barter, etc. Smart move on his part because now he had hundreds of eyes keeping a look out for him.
As a pillow, I don't think that it'd be fluffy enough for me but I can imagine the dreams that one might get.
Cheers
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March 13, 2014, 02:10:43 AM
#33
my 7"h x 4"w tusk went for $30 Tongue
imo anything that lasts 35k years and looks even half that good should fetch some decent $$... 8.5k seems very fair. If I bought it I'd get it a pillow and sleep with it every night, , ,
srs




That skull though,
very nice
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March 12, 2014, 01:59:56 PM
#32
You really can now buy ANYTHING with Bitcoin... Grin
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March 11, 2014, 06:26:59 PM
#31
Hello kibblenbits,
Thanks for the good wishes.
It would be hard to go and just dig for these. There's permafrost, hard as concrete, a few inches below the surface. In the winter the old timers used steam to melt the permafrost so they could dig. Nowadays work is usually just done in the summer with heavy machinery but then you have to deal with monstrous black flies that did drive some men mad.
Nothing's easy,eh?
Cheers
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March 10, 2014, 07:20:26 PM
#30
Too rich for my blood, but these are hands down the coolest thing I've seen for Bitcoin sale.  Best of luck - I wish I could go up to the Great White North and dig around for these.
legendary
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March 10, 2014, 02:09:20 PM
#29
No worries the joint.
It's all good
Cheers

Free bump for one of the coolest listings I've seen.
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March 10, 2014, 10:33:53 AM
#28
No worries the joint.
It's all good
Cheers
legendary
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March 09, 2014, 03:10:37 PM
#27
Hello the joint,
I have not heard of this event you speak of. Selling a complete skeleton for $6000.00 to a museum makes me think that the museum was probably compensating this man’s expenses in either digging out the skeleton or downtime of his project in return for donating the skeleton. This is only speculation on my part but as you’ve stated yourself you are “not sure of the details surrounding the sale”.




That very well could be the case, and you're right, I'm not sure about the details of the sale.  I would expect that a full skeleton would be worth far more than $6,000, and I do vaguely remember being confused when I had originally heard the selling price.  It's possible it was simply a finder's fee for uncovering some part of the skeleton (e.g. a tooth or tusk) which then led to the discovery of the rest of the skeleton.
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March 09, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
#26
Thanks canadabtc for that link
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March 09, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
#25
Hello the joint,
I have not heard of this event you speak of. Selling a complete skeleton for $6000.00 to a museum makes me think that the museum was probably compensating this man’s expenses in either digging out the skeleton or downtime of his project in return for donating the skeleton. This is only speculation on my part but as you’ve stated yourself you are “not sure of the details surrounding the sale”.


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March 08, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
#24
http://www.paleodirect.com/pgset3/mtx001.htm

Maybe you would like these for $485,000.00?
Sounds like they are a deal. Someone will buy them and donate them to a museum for everyone to enjoy.

legendary
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March 08, 2014, 04:05:45 PM
#23
I'm not at all knowledgeable about the prices of these things, but I'd appreciate if you can explain how the value of something like this is determined.  Near my area, there was an entire mammoth skeleton found by one of the local residents, and the selling price for the *entire* skeleton was $6,000.  I'm not sure of the details surrounding the sale, but perhaps you could enlighten me a bit Smiley
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March 08, 2014, 11:37:19 AM
#22
I like these!
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March 08, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
#21
These are exquisite and unique!
Good luk finding a bona fide buyer on here...
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March 08, 2014, 03:38:19 AM
#20
I would list those on the Bitpremier
https://www.bitpremier.com/

Most certainly fits into their categories
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March 08, 2014, 12:20:43 AM
#19
Wow these are beautiful!!!
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March 07, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
#18
I bid 2 btc for the adult tusks and the juvenile skull/tusks/mandible... This offer is good until Bitcoin goes over $112500 a piece... Fully expect that to take a good 3-5 years so no worries if you find a buyer before then. Wink

Thanks,
Andrew
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March 07, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
#17
Hello E.exchanger,
Shipping them is not a problem. A wooden crate will do the job. It's been done.
An actual pair plus provenance is worth every penny...er. bitcoin. Wink
Cheers
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March 07, 2014, 04:00:09 PM
#16
They will be very hard to ship plus the price is too huge I'll watch for this post to see who finally buys it !! Good luck
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March 07, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
#15
Thanks rohnearner.
They are awesome and they are legal and conscience free anywhere in the world.
I've spent my whole artistic career since working with mammoth ivory in educating the public about these magnificent creatures and have been included in the mid-late 1980's into Canada's Who's Who for my efforts.
I've been crusading the use of mammoth ivory so as to help in the preservation of our modern day elephants.
TV interviews are here: richardmarcus.ca
Cheers
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March 07, 2014, 05:17:03 AM
#14
WOW you got something worthy there.. !
with little more exposure you'll get a cool deal..! just wait for it..!
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March 07, 2014, 05:07:51 AM
#13
Hello apsvinet,
They are perfectly legal.
Please read my previous post.
Cheers
I would refer you to -my- previous post. It's not about whether you owning them is legal, in your country, I have no concerns about that.
I found the answer to my own question myself. This should not be in the hands on private owners, where I live. Thanks for your time.
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March 06, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
#12
Hello apsvinet,
They are perfectly legal.
Please read my previous post.
Cheers
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March 06, 2014, 05:33:14 PM
#11
Hello apsvinet,
These are perfectly legal. These animals died off 35,000 years ago - not endangered because they are prehistoric..
My art work is in every continent and in two museums (US and Germany)
I am recognized by the US Treasury Dept. as a "Canadian sculptor/designer working primarily with prehistoric mammoth/mastodon ivory". A copy of this document will accompany these items.
I've sold specimens to private collectors and museums in Germany, France, Australia, Japan and the United States.
If you have any more question please do not hesitate to ask.
Cheers
Haha, I most certainly realize mammoths are not endangered Wink. However the question about the legal part is that in some countries (as far as I know) these kinds of items are not allowed in private hands, but has to be given to museums (not sold, given).
I can't guarantee this is a fact, but however I've always thought that ( at least in Sweden ) if you for example would find an ancient piece of jewelry, it'd be illegal to keep it.

Edit: I looked it up, in Sweden you are -not- allowed to keep certain ancient items, altho it (obviously) says nothing specific about mammoth tusks, or other items related to extinct species.
Altho I suppose you're not allowed to keep bones and such that you find in any part of the world?
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March 06, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
#10
Thanks TrollboxChamp
They are awesome just to be around with. Your imagination takes off.
Cheers
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March 06, 2014, 02:01:23 AM
#9
Nice piece. Very jealous.
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March 05, 2014, 05:14:08 PM
#8
Hello apsvinet,
These are perfectly legal. These animals died off 35,000 years ago - not endangered because they are prehistoric..
My art work is in every continent and in two museums (US and Germany)
I am recognized by the US Treasury Dept. as a "Canadian sculptor/designer working primarily with prehistoric mammoth/mastodon ivory". A copy of this document will accompany these items.
I've sold specimens to private collectors and museums in Germany, France, Australia, Japan and the United States.
If you have any more question please do not hesitate to ask.
Cheers
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March 05, 2014, 05:01:06 PM
#7
Is there a risk this might be illegal to own
without proper paperwork etc in certain countries?
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March 05, 2014, 04:55:59 PM
#6
Thanks ionux
They're truly "one of a kind"
Cheers
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March 05, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
#5
Wow, this is one of the most unique items I've ever seen for sale.  Cheesy  Very cool!
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March 05, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
#4
Thanks Coins4life.
I'm a sculptor/designer and work primarily in mammoth ivory, semi precious stones and exotic hardwoods. Been sculpting since I was 17 and working with mammoth since 1980. Mammoth ivory is mainly found in the Yukon, Alaska and in Siberia and is usually found as a by-product of placer gold mining operations (see link in my ad to video).
I've visited the Yukon and met the miners and established a pleasant relationship. So at the end of every mining season (winter) the miners would get in touch with me and we'd begin to negotiate. I've accumulated a lot of ivory since then and now I'm readying myself for semi-retirement (I'll never stops sculpting designing).
Please feel free to ask any more questions.
Cheers

Thanks canadabtc!
Yes, I'm an artist and if you check out the link in my ad it will take you to my newly (and still in progress) website.
Depending on the interest in the specimens I have listed for sale I may put up some of my art work for sale here as well.
Cheers
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March 05, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
#3
Wow amazing. You must be an artist, I can see some works in the pictures behind you.
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March 05, 2014, 12:12:57 PM
#2
Very cool! How do you own these?
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March 05, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
#1
One pair of adult wooly mammoth tusks excavated by a small gold mining operation outside of Dawson City, Yukon, Canada in the mid-late 1980's. They are 8 1/2 feet & 9 1/2 feet long and weigh approximately 120lbs. each. Thue mammoths died off approximately 35,000 years ago - truly conscience free ivory.
Asking $175,000.00US
I will accept BitCoin as well
There is a video of finding this pair of tusks here: www.richardmarcus.ca
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/DSC_6672sm_zps9f978e49.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/6691sm_zps54671b3a.jpg
Also have a juvenile skull with mandible (jaw) and tusks, that was unearthed outside of Dawson City, Yukon in the mid-late 1980's.
Asking: $50,000.00US
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/IMG_3534sm_zps6ea03b93.jpg
I will accept BitCoin as well
Also have a chunk of a Mammoth tusk. Both ends of this chunk of 35,000 years old Mammoth tusk have been sanded and polished. One half of the length of tusk has also been sanded and polished while the other half has not and remains natural.
People tend to not stop caressing this beautiful piece of 35,000 year old ivory. A beautiful addition to any household or prize collection.
Asking price: $8500.00USD
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/IMGP3859sm_zps8fc09346.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/IMGP3862sm_zpsc3213058.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/BC_Mosaic/IMGP3863sm_zps368fcc5e.jpg
Dimensions: 12" H x 6" wide, 6+lbs.
30.4cm tall x 15.2cm wide, 2.72kg
You can pm me with any questions.
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