Raffle is cancelled since there is not enough affluence, will update here with a tx id when Ticked get refunded.
Edit:
Refunded https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/f7972acb7909cf305fa6a0abce1b640952e9c916e6dd3ecb95ad0e47cb3f8cba
Topic: [CANCELLED] 2018 30g (1oz) Chinese Gold Panda Coin - 2016 150g Chinese Silver (Read 552 times)
February 25, 2018, 02:11:10 PM
February 24, 2018, 02:45:16 PM
Also, I clearly state in my raffles that the winner is responsible for local customs and duties which I feel should be standard
No complaints here, fully expected to get hit with a charge was just hoping it would sneak through unnoticed
February 24, 2018, 02:12:16 PM
I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?
VAT is payable on silver. I got hit with a £18 charge on the 150g silver proof panda I won here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raffle-30-gram-gold-ms69-fs-150-g-proof-silver-its-on-2917317
I'm talking within EU. The thread you are referencing is an item shipped from USA.
Also, I clearly state in my raffles that the winner is responsible for local customs and duties which I feel should be standard
I definitely agree on that, but in this case, where I believe the OP is sending these items from within EU there are no extra duties, regardless of who wins it and where they are located (not 100% sure about Asian countries but if winner is from USA/EU).
February 24, 2018, 02:05:42 PM
I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?
VAT is payable on silver. I got hit with a £18 charge on the 150g silver proof panda I won here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raffle-30-gram-gold-ms69-fs-150-g-proof-silver-its-on-2917317
I'm talking within EU. The thread you are referencing is an item shipped from USA.
Also, I clearly state in my raffles that the winner is responsible for local customs and duties which I feel should be standard
February 24, 2018, 01:34:57 PM
I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?
VAT is payable on silver. I got hit with a £18 charge on the 150g silver proof panda I won here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raffle-30-gram-gold-ms69-fs-150-g-proof-silver-its-on-2917317
I'm talking within EU. The thread you are referencing is an item shipped from USA.
February 24, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?
VAT is payable on silver. I got hit with a £18 charge on the 150g silver proof panda I won here :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/raffle-30-gram-gold-ms69-fs-150-g-proof-silver-its-on-2917317
February 24, 2018, 12:06:21 PM
I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?
February 24, 2018, 11:20:05 AM
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If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
Is this your problem?If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
Tman. There is no VAT due on investment gold into the UK. Only silver, platinum and palladium.
All you should have had to do is sign a disclaimer stating that is investment gold for customs and excise. If the shipping company did charge you then you can claim it back. I am 100% certain on this (speaking from someone that had 9 X 1kg gold bars shipped in to the UK from Canada + coins from the US, Australia, Spain and France.
Depends on courier. Sometimes you have to pay it and claim it back from customs. Pain in the arse I know but it can happen
February 24, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
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If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
Is this your problem?If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
Tman. There is no VAT due on investment gold into the UK. Only silver, platinum and palladium.
All you should have had to do is sign a disclaimer stating that is investment gold for customs and excise. If the shipping company did charge you then you can claim it back. I am 100% certain on this (speaking from someone that had 9 X 1kg gold bars shipped in to the UK from Canada + coins from the US, Australia, Spain and France.
February 24, 2018, 11:06:19 AM
The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
No, everything is paid by me.The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
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Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
Yes, shipping is free.Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
-snip
What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
Items are in the warehouse of a supplier, it will be sent after 3 days maximum.What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? (espically since you do not even own the items and have to purchase them) Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
are you just hoping a USA resident wins?
There is no VAT on gold only silver.
The silver panda coin is with roughly around £175 so £35 VAT + around a £15 handling charge. He has around a £300 profit margin so can cover shipping + fees and still be £200+ up.
February 24, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
Give it up killyou. You are making yourself look like a cunt again.
Sometimes you have a point, but keep going at it and make yourself look like a used condom
Sometimes you have a point, but keep going at it and make yourself look like a used condom
February 24, 2018, 10:49:32 AM
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Just because you have BTC does not mean you won't scam for some more
That is also an address that you literally just sent BTC, maybe you had a friend send you btc so you can sign an address
Wait...what? so for you a friend can literally send you 1.3BTC (which is almost 13000$) just for fun? Just because you have BTC does not mean you won't scam for some more
That is also an address that you literally just sent BTC, maybe you had a friend send you btc so you can sign an address
(+the transaction has just been confirmed)
February 24, 2018, 10:47:36 AM
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Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter
the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss
Here you go:Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter
the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss
Code:
19GZSg3egbHzcpn7D2wMWHm1FaXmL1XqpK
Code:
Woshib, 24 February 2018, made with love for paranoid killyou72
Code:
IEe6sDVLTmBpfVa7S7QuSHi8Risj0J35Yyls+/5OSWVkV3T9bxLjneZoNSNXvY2eXcf5L6cn2GJHF97CEhMp2ys=
Do you also need my private keys?
Just because you have BTC does not mean you won't scam for some more
That is also an address that you literally just sent BTC, maybe you had a friend send you btc so you can sign an address
February 24, 2018, 10:43:54 AM
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Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter
the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss
Here you go:Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter
the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss
Code:
19GZSg3egbHzcpn7D2wMWHm1FaXmL1XqpK
Code:
Woshib, 24 February 2018, made with love for paranoid killyou72
Code:
IEe6sDVLTmBpfVa7S7QuSHi8Risj0J35Yyls+/5OSWVkV3T9bxLjneZoNSNXvY2eXcf5L6cn2GJHF97CEhMp2ys=
Do you also need my private keys?
February 24, 2018, 10:34:33 AM
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How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
Only thing I say is that I will pay every additional cost, that's all, where is the problem?How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
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its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then raffle them,
so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss
Haha, do you want me to sign a message from an address to "prove" I own money? its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then raffle them,
so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss
Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter
the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss
February 24, 2018, 10:32:06 AM
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How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
Only thing I say is that I will pay every additional cost, that's all, where is the problem?How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
-snip
its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then raffle them,
so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss
Haha, do you want me to sign a message from an address to "prove" I own money? its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then raffle them,
so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss
February 24, 2018, 10:24:26 AM
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If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
Is this your problem?If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
Excuse you TMAN, I use the pronoun he and him not they,,, cant believe you are agreeing with me
its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then raffle them,
so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss
February 24, 2018, 10:21:30 AM
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If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
Is this your problem?If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.
It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions
All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella
February 24, 2018, 10:14:58 AM
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If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
Is this your problem? If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
February 24, 2018, 10:13:56 AM
The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
No, everything is paid by me.The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
-snip
Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
Yes, shipping is free.Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
-snip
What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
Items are in the warehouse of a supplier, it will be sent after 3 days maximum.What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? (espically since you do not even own the items and have to purchase them) Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver
are you just hoping a USA resident wins?
February 24, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
No, everything is paid by me.The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
-snip
Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
Yes, shipping is free.Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
-snip
What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
Items are in the warehouse of a supplier, it will be sent after 3 days maximum. What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
February 24, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses
Coins are in another tier warehouses
That statement makes no sense in English though
What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?
Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here
February 24, 2018, 08:22:42 AM
The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,
February 24, 2018, 08:20:00 AM
The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.
It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.
February 24, 2018, 08:13:17 AM
Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses
Coins are in another tier warehouses
That statement makes no sense in English though
LMAO so you are auctioning items you don't even own yet and cannot even say that in the OP?
Does this warehouse ship worldwide?
Who pays the VAT?
February 24, 2018, 08:04:13 AM
Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses
Coins are in another tier warehouses
That statement makes no sense in English though
February 24, 2018, 07:59:15 AM
Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses
Coins are in another tier warehouses
That statement makes no sense in English though
February 24, 2018, 07:58:25 AM
Total auction value = approx £300 over the value of the goods on offer.
He could be using the auction proceeds to purchase the goods and pocket the difference, nothing wrong with that but asking a for a real picture of the goods upfront isnt asking too much if he atually owns them currently.
He could be using the auction proceeds to purchase the goods and pocket the difference, nothing wrong with that but asking a for a real picture of the goods upfront isnt asking too much if he atually owns them currently.
Please read this:
Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses, but everything is secured, they will ship items to the winners.
Coins are in another tier warehouses, but everything is secured, they will ship items to the winners.
February 24, 2018, 07:54:15 AM
Total auction value = approx £300 over the value of the goods on offer.
He could be using the auction proceeds to purchase the goods and pocket the difference, nothing wrong with that but asking a for a real picture of the goods upfront isnt asking too much if he actually owns them currently.
He could be using the auction proceeds to purchase the goods and pocket the difference, nothing wrong with that but asking a for a real picture of the goods upfront isnt asking too much if he actually owns them currently.
February 24, 2018, 07:36:30 AM
Bump!
How do we even know you have these items if you have not posted a time stamped photo with said items?
OP has ran multiple campaigns handling payments with amounts way bigger than this. Doubt he'll scam for a meager 0.15 BTC
Yeah I bet people didn't think that master-p would scam too right or BFL more recently, I bet people didn't think that xboxme guy would scam for a second time, or liad.servcies was trusted with thousands and thousands of dollars of items and stuff he ended up scamming for under a grand in memory serves me right
and none of those "multiple campaigns", "handling payments with amounts way bigger than this" are properly documented on his trust page
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Remark:
Coins are in another tier warehouses,
Coins are in another tier warehouses,
I mean is that even proper english? What does that even mean
February 24, 2018, 07:22:36 AM
Bump!
How do we even know you have these items if you have not posted a time stamped photo with said items?
OP has ran multiple campaigns handling payments with amounts way bigger than this. Doubt he'll scam for a meager 0.15 BTC
February 24, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
Bump!
How do we even know you have these items if you have not posted a time stamped photo with said items?
February 24, 2018, 06:01:03 AM
Bump!
February 23, 2018, 05:17:19 PM
When I saw this thread I thought my account had been hacked.
Which is fortunately not the case. 
February 23, 2018, 05:13:18 PM
When I saw this thread I thought my account had been hacked.
February 23, 2018, 10:45:18 AM
A, 3, F
I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
Amounts I am escrowing for my campaigns/others are 20 to 30 times larger than this raffle pool, anyway, do it whatever you want.I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
That didnt sound like BS, payment
https://blockchain.info/tx/7c1be06825c432bb293c618ea1903d9285b4ddaa1c97cdcea8705a9094cbed53
February 23, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
A, 3, F
I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
Amounts I am escrowing for my campaigns/others are 20 to 30 times larger than this raffle pool, anyway, do as you feel best. I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
February 23, 2018, 10:32:18 AM
A, 3, F
I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety. Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.
February 23, 2018, 09:36:08 AM
Let's start a raffle today!
1st prize - 2018 30 Gram Chinese Gold Panda Coin (BU)
2nd prize - 2016 150 Gram Proof Chinese Silver Panda Coin (Box + CoA)
Ticket price: 0.0135BTC
Ask in PM if you want to pay in another currency.
Address:
16VdiyVwnmxDmpc1B2uu29LXm3nd9N9KBf
Shipping
Included fast shipping worldwide.
Remark:
Items are stored in the warehouses of a supplier, but everything is secured, they will ship items to the winners.
Post here the place you want and transaction id.
Tickets available:
0.
1.
2.
3. Ticked
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
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a. Ticked
b.
c.
d.
e.
f . Ticked
1st prize - 2018 30 Gram Chinese Gold Panda Coin (BU)
2nd prize - 2016 150 Gram Proof Chinese Silver Panda Coin (Box + CoA)
Ticket price: 0.0135BTC
Ask in PM if you want to pay in another currency.
Address:
16VdiyVwnmxDmpc1B2uu29LXm3nd9N9KBf
Shipping
Included fast shipping worldwide.
Remark:
Items are stored in the warehouses of a supplier, but everything is secured, they will ship items to the winners.
Post here the place you want and transaction id.
Tickets available:
0.
1.
2.
3. Ticked
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
a. Ticked
b.
c.
d.
e.
f . Ticked
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