Topic: Canelo vs Jacobs (Read 816 times)

Quote from: Netnox on May 08, 2019, 10:43:39 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

Canelo won the fight and I agree that there is no robbery. About the clause though, it's controversial to me, I mean if you really wanted to win fair and square, why would you like your opponents to be drained? You will hear fighters saying that they don't want to hear their opponents making excuses after the fight but it seems the Canelo has given Jacobs and his team some reason and to make some noise about that clause.

Let's move on, let's give the credit to Canelo for winning.
Boxing is corrupt, there are some decision that we might not agree with, there's nothing new here. come on Grin

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 07, 2019, 06:28:42 PM

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Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

Canelo won the fight and I agree that there is no robbery. About the clause though, it's controversial to me, I mean if you really wanted to win fair and square, why would you like your opponents to be drained? You will hear fighters saying that they don't want to hear their opponents making excuses after the fight but it seems the Canelo has given Jacobs and his team some reason and to make some noise about that clause.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 08, 2019, 09:51:58 PM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

I would agree. But I think that there was no robbery because the need was not there. An unbiased jury might have given a draw. But still, a win for Canelo could be justified. You can convert a draw to a win for either of the fighters and hardly anyone would complain about it. But what happened during the fight against GGG was that the latter had clearly won the fight and the jury awarded it to Canelo. No sympathies for Jacobs. He knew that he needed a KO. And he was unable to do that.

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Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans. Grin

If we look at the tale of the tape, Daniel Jacobs is bigger than Canelo Alvarez by 9 centimeters or 3.6 inches and Daniel Jacobs reach is longer by 6 centimeters or 2.3 inches. I guess Canelo Alvarez want's to play it safe by asking for a clause so that Daniel Jacobs will not step in the ring with the weight where he is comfortable.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 07, 2019, 09:45:15 PM

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nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

Probably the question is why did Canelo need that clause in the first place? Is he playing mind games off, are afraid that Jacobs rehydrating to like 175++ lbs? Also it was reveal prior to the fight, I think Canelo doesn't want media attacking him with that clause. But since he already won, no one did except Jacobs fans. Grin

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 07, 2019, 08:21:23 PM

nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

But he did go above 170 lbs so what effect are you guys talking about? Maybe there is a psychological effect here but I doubt it. Although this kind of clause looks very sketchy but there are fighters like Manny Pacquiao who implemented this kind of clause whenever the fights bigger fighter so there is no surprises here.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 07, 2019, 08:21:23 PM

nydiacaskey01- it was $9 millions of Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

That's what I was thinking also. Did it affect on his performance? The fight was so close but sadly, Jacobs didn't manage to knock out Canelo. If he did, no doubt he won that fight.

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nydiacaskey01- it was just $9 million on Jacobs. Why? because there was a clause in the fight wherein he needed to be just 170 lbs on the second day weigh in (prior to the fight), and a penalty of $1 million if he goes over that. Jacobs weigh in at 173 lbs. Interesting that we didn't hear this clause before the fight. I don't know if this affected Jacobs though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-canelo-demanded-170-weight-clause-no-fight--138734

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Quote from: Sanitough on May 06, 2019, 12:37:56 AM

Canelo = easy money Cool

But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo.

If fairness to the judges and Canelo, I think the fight is not controversial enough to warrant a robbery unlike with his fights with GGG. Just what i have posted days ago that Jacobs only chance to steal the show is via knock-out but it didn't happen.

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Canelo = easy money Cool

In my opinion, it was a boring fight and it was a draw... But I understand why the judges gave it to Canelo... and it's because of the date and what Canelo represents for the Mexican people.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 10:21:26 PM

Fight results
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 10:21:26 PM

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

Huge money, both are winners with this amount and king of sharing.

It could be the biggest purse for Daniel Jacobs as well. Win or lose he is guaranteed a cool $10 m. Canelo Alvarez is new the cash cow of boxing. I remember when Pacquiao was at his prime everyone wanted to fight him because it's a sweepstakes. And now we are seeing in it Canelo Alvarez.

What's next for him? He needs to face or go up in weight and face the next champion.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 10:21:26 PM

Fight results
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Congrats on those who back Canelo Alvarez to win in this fight, though with small odds but it's a win.
Good fight for both, but Canelo Alvarez as the favorites is better in this fight, it was close if I'm going to score it.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 05, 2019, 10:21:26 PM

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

Huge money, both are winners with this amount and king of sharing.

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Fight results

Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) via decision

Vergil Ortiz Jr. def. Mauricio Herrera via KO in Round 3

Lamont Roach Jr. def. Jonathan Oquendo via decision

Joseph Diaz Jr. def. Freddy Fonseca KO in Round 7

Anthony Young def. Sadam Ali via KO in Round 3

John Ryder def. Bilal Akkawy KO in Round 3

Alexis Espino def. Billy Wagner via decision

*Canelo Alvarez is expected to earn $35 Million USD on this fight while Daniel Jacobs is expected to earn a $10 Million (source cbssports)

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 05, 2019, 05:11:28 AM

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

Yes, I think the first fight with GGG could go to Golovkin though. There's no way the judges could give it a draw as GGG was moving forward in that fight. Anyways, let's see a third fight with GGG so that Canelo would proved that he really win in those 2 controversial win.

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

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I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

Yes he did (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ggg-signs-with-dazn-canelo-alvarez-trilogy-and-more-fights-to-make-for-gennady-golovkin/). So there is a chance that we might see a trilogy after all.

And according to Canelo:

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For me, it’s over,” Alvarez said about his rivalry with Golovkin. “But if the people want another fight, we’ll do it again, and I’ll beat him again.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-if-people-want-another-golovkin-fight-ill-beat-him-again--138697

For me the fight fell short of expectations. More of a chess match, back and forth fight adjustments (Canelo going south paw) and eventhough there are round that are exciting like the 8th and the 9th, it doesn't have the excitement that a Canelo and GGG fight. So bring the 3rd fight in the table, it could bring more money for both fighters.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 05, 2019, 08:37:33 AM

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

As far as I know GGG sign with DAZN as well so there is a possibility that a big third fight is on the horizon. Jacobs is the taller fighter, but as you have said, Canelo adjusted specially when Jacobs is moving. Yes, I would also assumed that Canelo has a lot of Mexican fights so another reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 05, 2019, 07:07:32 AM

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

~snip~

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

This is expected, the only way for Jacobs to win the fight is through a knockout, that might be the reason why he did not met the contracted weight the morning of the fight. He looked the bigger fighter but Canelo have outsmarted him as he is lighter and quicker to avoid those power punches of Jacobs. He may have hurt Canelo in the 9th round but not enough to put him on the canvass. Boxing judges sucks but people in the venue, majority maybe Mexicans as it is the Cinco de Mayo weekend were happy of the result.

GGG on ringside, hoping for that 3rd fight with Canelo.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 05, 2019, 05:11:28 AM

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

I really thought that I was just the only person who see the fight as a draw. Yes, it was a close fight, but it was boring though, compare to Canelo vs GGG or GGG vs Jacobs. Gonna be interesting to see what will be the PPV numbers in this fight. Seems that it didn't generated enough buzz, although Canelo is the A side here and held during Cinco de Mayo, so let's see.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 05, 2019, 12:01:36 AM

It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

I would have given a draw. Same was with GGG. Close fight, could be a draw, but the judges game win to Canelo, as for more famous and popular fighter.

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Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.

Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here

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Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

I watched the weigh-in and it looks like no drama to me. Jacobs is really pump about this fight and so is Alvarez. Both fighters needs to be restrain by their crew.

However, in the fight, it looks like Jacobs fell short on the judges score card. He threw a lot of punches but non has impacted Canelo. Good win for Alvarez to unify the belt. But it was a close fight but I give the edge to Alvarez.

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It was a closed decision by Canelo and unify the belt. The scores were 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112. All I can say? This could be a draw, 114-114. Anyways, I think Jacobs did good in the early round to take the lead and Canelo may have overtaken it according to the judges in the later round, but that's just me and not taking anything from Canelo though.

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Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.

Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here

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Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

Never seen the video yet, but I guess they wanted to put more hype specially at weigh-in. So probably part of the script because they needed to put casual boxing fans in the sit to watch the fight.

Jacobs as others said, is a live dog and the odds are enticing. might be worth the risk. Grin

Boxing is entertainment, they surely find ways to entice people in watching this one.
Jacobs give good odds but you can play it for fun because we all know how good Canelo is and he can knock this guy out, if he wants to.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 04, 2019, 06:30:33 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 03, 2019, 06:41:30 AM

Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.

Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here

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Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

Never seen the video yet, but I guess they wanted to put more hype specially at weigh-in. So probably part of the script because they needed to put casual boxing fans in the sit to watch the fight.

Jacobs as others said, is a live dog and the odds are enticing. might be worth the risk. Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 03, 2019, 06:41:30 AM

Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.

Yeah, i did but not that much though. I'm on Jacobs, high risk high reward but no miracles needed here

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Some drama on the weigh-in, is that part of the script?

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Is anyone on this topic going to bet on Canelo vs Jacobs ?

On our local sports betting bar the odds are 1.20 for Canelo and 4.21 for Jacobs.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 02, 2019, 10:52:34 PM

Here's the updated odds for this fight courtesy of nitrogensports

Canelo Alvarez -452
Daniel Jacobs +354

This means if I placed $100 to Canelo Alvarez, it will return to me at $122.12. While if I placed $100 to Daniel Jacobs, it will return at $454. Notice on my old post the odds are slightly different -382 for Canelo Alvarez and +301 Daniel Jacobs.

Nice odds for the winner but if you are convince that Canelo's opponent stands no chance, you can take that free money.
You'll earn 22% of your bet amount, it's already good betting on the heavy favorites and would be better if you put a decent amount on it.

Good odds, but I think there will be more spread as the fight gets closer. 22% is not that bad, but it's a big risk-reward ratio. For me this fight will be close as well. Not willing to take the risk on Jacobs though, but for those boxing/gambling fans, this is a good opportunity to make money while enjoying and getting entertain.

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Quote from: mich on May 03, 2019, 12:23:29 AM

The more thoughts I put into this match the more and more I like Canelo.
I just dont see Daniel Jacobs being able to hurt Canelo- even if Jacobs is larger then Canelo.
To make things worst for Jacobs is the match being in Canelo territory so the judges will side with Canelo.

The more i read articles about this fight, the more i like Jacobs. He isn't called a "miracle man" for nothing. He has beaten cancer that could end his life and this fight is less than that. Putting my money now on Jacobs, high risk but high rewards also but who knows, miracle can happen at any given time.

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No, I think this is not just a walk in for Alvarez besides this gonna be a big test for his stamina since Jacobs has have the power punch that's enough to knocking down tough opponent and that 29 KO's of 35 wins is not a lucky punch for sure.

I am convinced that this is a tough test for Canelo not a walk in the park though Cool

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Quote from: mirakal on May 02, 2019, 11:13:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 02, 2019, 10:52:34 PM

Here's the updated odds for this fight courtesy of nitrogensports

Canelo Alvarez -452
Daniel Jacobs +354

This means if I placed $100 to Canelo Alvarez, it will return to me at $122.12. While if I placed $100 to Daniel Jacobs, it will return at $454. Notice on my old post the odds are slightly different -382 for Canelo Alvarez and +301 Daniel Jacobs.

Nice odds for the winner but if you are convince that Canelo's opponent stands no chance, you can take that free money.
You'll earn 22% of your bet amount, it's already good betting on the heavy favorites and would be better if you put a decent amount on it.

22% profits is not bad if you really trust your fighter, but likewise if you are a risky bettors and looking for much higher returned taking some chances betting with the underdog will bring really decent when you are lucky picking it.

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Aside from the odds for Canelo and Jacobs fight, here are the odds on the under card for the same event.

Canelo Alvarez (51-1-2) [-452] vs. Daniel Jacobs (35-2) [+354] WBA, WBC, IBF, Middleweight unification championship

Vergil Ortiz Jr. (12-0, 12 KO) [-2778] vs. Mauricio Herrera (24-8, 7 KO) [+1222] Welterweight

Lamont Roach Jr. (18-0-1, 7 KO) vs. Jonathan Oquendo (30-5, 19 KO) Junior Lightweight

Joseph Diaz Jr. (28-1, 14 KO) vs. Freddy Fonseca (26-2-1, 17 KO) Junior Lightweight

Sadam Ali (27-2, 14 KO) [-2083] vs. Anthony Young (20-2, 7 KO) [+1060] Welterweight

John Ryder (27-4, 15 KO) [-172] vs. Bilal Akkawy (20-0-1, 16 KO) [+144] Vacant WBA Interim Super Middleweight championship

Alexis Espino (1-0, 1 KO) vs. Billy Wagner (1-0) Super Middleweight

Credits to nbcsports.com for the fight card of this event and odds taken from Nitrogensports.

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The more thoughts I put into this match the more and more I like Canelo.
I just dont see Daniel Jacobs being able to hurt Canelo- even if Jacobs is larger then Canelo.
To make things worst for Jacobs is the match being in Canelo territory so the judges will side with Canelo.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on May 02, 2019, 10:52:34 PM

Here's the updated odds for this fight courtesy of nitrogensports

Canelo Alvarez -452
Daniel Jacobs +354

This means if I placed $100 to Canelo Alvarez, it will return to me at $122.12. While if I placed $100 to Daniel Jacobs, it will return at $454. Notice on my old post the odds are slightly different -382 for Canelo Alvarez and +301 Daniel Jacobs.

Nice odds for the winner but if you are convince that Canelo's opponent stands no chance, you can take that free money.
You'll earn 22% of your bet amount, it's already good betting on the heavy favorites and would be better if you put a decent amount on it.

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Here's the updated odds for this fight courtesy of nitrogensports

Canelo Alvarez -452
Daniel Jacobs +354

This means if I placed $100 to Canelo Alvarez, it will return to me at $122.12. While if I placed $100 to Daniel Jacobs, it will return at $454. Notice on my old post the odds are slightly different -382 for Canelo Alvarez and +301 Daniel Jacobs.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 23, 2019, 07:16:54 PM

Canelo Alvarez vs Daniel Jacobs
Date : May 4, 2019
Venue : Las Vegas, Nevada

I think this is just another walk in the park fight for Alvarez against the less popular Jacobs but who knows if Jacobs could land that lucky punch since he is a heavy hitter between the two looking at his 29 KO's in that 35 wins.

No, I think this is not just a walk in for Alvarez besides this gonna be a big test for his stamina since Jacobs has have the power punch that's enough to knocking down tough opponent and that 29 KO's of 35 wins is not a lucky punch for sure.

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Quote from: zhea on April 30, 2019, 09:13:08 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on April 30, 2019, 06:18:49 AM

Whoever wins the game as long as it's entertaining, fans would be so happy and they will feel they got entertainment on what they got paid for.
Canelo's fight with Mayweather is the most boring fight of his carreer, Mayweather is too fast for him Canelo cannot fight on his usual style as he does not dictate the fight.

That's the reason why fight fans watch boxing, to be entertained but on our side as bettors we bet on who got the high chance of winning or where we win big. For me i bet for Jacobs, low bet high winnings for me.

Of course, we want to be entertained. And at the same time we have our own favorite (or hated) fighter. You have to understand that Canelo was not at this prime with he fought Mayweather. Actually, he was relatively unknown that time, only Mexican boxing fans know his name.

That's why we can't really used it as basis, Oscar Dela Hoya was right, he is the next big boxers because after that lose, he improved to now the biggest star of boxing.

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 30, 2019, 06:18:49 AM

Whoever wins the game as long as it's entertaining, fans would be so happy and they will feel they got entertainment on what they got paid for.
Canelo's fight with Mayweather is the most boring fight of his carreer, Mayweather is too fast for him Canelo cannot fight on his usual style as he does not dictate the fight.

That's the reason why fight fans watch boxing, to be entertained but on our side as bettors we bet on who got the high chance of winning or where we win big. For me i bet for Jacobs, low bet high winnings for me.

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Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on April 30, 2019, 07:07:04 AM

Quote from: judeafante on April 30, 2019, 05:48:47 AM

Canelo has fought the best boxer in this era Mayweather and Ganady, he is on top of his games right now and Jacobs is just going to be an added badges to his glorious career, but I'm thinking that he is not facing a patsy and we all love an underdog to win a fight, but still my vote is Canelo by a decision, but not ruling out a knock out.

The previous match of Canelo is great so I think he will own the stage this time again and put Jacobs down. They have both the strength but the experience of every boxer will play a big role on this fight. Will look for a betting place to put my bet with Canelo, I want to win this time so I will still choose to be on the safe side.

You are talking about the fight against Rocky Fielding? Yes... his performance was good during that match. But then Rocky Fielding is not a legend, unlike boxers such as Gennady Golovkin and Amir Khan. But for Canelo, it gives him a lot of confidence. His team might say that Canelo won his last fight by KO, while Jacobs won his last (vs Derevianchenko) by SD.

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Quote from: judeafante on April 30, 2019, 05:48:47 AM

Canelo has fought the best boxer in this era Mayweather and Ganady, he is on top of his games right now and Jacobs is just going to be an added badges to his glorious career, but I'm thinking that he is not facing a patsy and we all love an underdog to win a fight, but still my vote is Canelo by a decision, but not ruling out a knock out.

The previous match of Canelo is great so I think he will own the stage this time again and put Jacobs down. They have both the strength but the experience of every boxer will play a big role on this fight. Will look for a betting place to put my bet with Canelo, I want to win this time so I will still choose to be on the safe side.

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Quote from: judeafante on April 30, 2019, 05:48:47 AM

Canelo has fought the best boxer in this era Mayweather and Ganady, he is on top of his games right now and Jacobs is just going to be an added badges to his glorious career, but I'm thinking that he is not facing a patsy and we all love an underdog to win a fight, but still my vote is Canelo by a decision, but not ruling out a knock out.

Whoever wins the game as long as it's entertaining, fans would be so happy and they will feel they got entertainment on what they got paid for.
Canelo's fight with Mayweather is the most boring fight of his carreer, Mayweather is too fast for him Canelo cannot fight on his usual style as he does not dictate the fight.

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Canelo has fought the best boxer in this era Mayweather and Ganady, he is on top of his games right now and Jacobs is just going to be an added badges to his glorious career, but I'm thinking that he is not facing a patsy and we all love an underdog to win a fight, but still my vote is Canelo by a decision, but not ruling out a knock out.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on April 29, 2019, 08:44:19 PM

Quote from: Netnox on April 29, 2019, 10:57:29 AM

Hmm.... It's nice to see that Jacobs is taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the jury will be unbiased. Talking about the fighting capabilities, I do think that Jacobs is a much better fighter technically. However the betting sites are giving advantage to Canelo. Anyway I will not be placing any bets for this fight. Looks quite risky.

Then go for Jacobs, small risk big rewards. Grin

I agree with @bisdak40 that bookies is giving Canelo an edge, but we all know he is a great fighter but his win against GGG is somewhat controversial for most boxing fans.

Good for Jacobs to take necessary precautions in picking up the judges in his fight, but if he didn't do enough to get the nod, then it will be another controversial ending and might be called for robbery again.

If this guy can last 12 rounds then it would be nice for the fans to see.
But if Canelo will knock him out, those controversy in the past will be overshadowed by his new success.

This guy fought Mayweather before and he lose via unanimous decision, maybe since Mayweather is not picking packing, he like canelo to fight again.
Let's see how this fight turns out, I realize Canelo is way better than his opponent now.

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Quote from: Netnox on April 29, 2019, 10:57:29 AM

Hmm.... It's nice to see that Jacobs is taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the jury will be unbiased. Talking about the fighting capabilities, I do think that Jacobs is a much better fighter technically. However the betting sites are giving advantage to Canelo. Anyway I will not be placing any bets for this fight. Looks quite risky.

Then go for Jacobs, small risk big rewards. Grin

I agree with @bisdak40 that bookies is giving Canelo an edge, but we all know he is a great fighter but his win against GGG is somewhat controversial for most boxing fans.

Good for Jacobs to take necessary precautions in picking up the judges in his fight, but if he didn't do enough to get the nod, then it will be another controversial ending and might be called for robbery again.

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This going to be a great fight and I think it will end with a knockout. I'm not sure if I want to bet anything here, but if I should bet then it would be on Canelo Alvarez.

I don't think that this fight would end via knockout. Both fighters can take a punch as we saw on their last fights. GGG's fight with Canelo and Jacobs end in a controversial draw considering that GGG is one hell of a knockout fighter.

Quote from: Netnox on April 29, 2019, 10:57:29 AM

Hmm.... It's nice to see that Jacobs is taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the jury will be unbiased. Talking about the fighting capabilities, I do think that Jacobs is a much better fighter technically. However the betting sites are giving advantage to Canelo. Anyway I will not be placing any bets for this fight. Looks quite risky.

Bookies give Canelo the edge as we have witnessed how controversial those two fights with GGG. History repeat itself and we might as well prepare for a robbery Grin

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Hmm.... It's nice to see that Jacobs is taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the jury will be unbiased. Talking about the fighting capabilities, I do think that Jacobs is a much better fighter technically. However the betting sites are giving advantage to Canelo. Anyway I will not be placing any bets for this fight. Looks quite risky.

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Quote from: Netnox on April 28, 2019, 12:40:35 PM

Quote from: Rufsilf on April 28, 2019, 05:19:57 PM

I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

Nope, I don't think that the jury will be neutral. Canelo Alvarez has enjoyed the support of the judges just like what we witnessed in their fight with Gennady Golovkin so I would not be surprised at all if we are going to see it again against the American.

That's why Jacobs should finished the fight and KO Canelo and try to broke that granite chin, it might be difficult but not impossible.

The fight will be happening in Las Vegas, and if the jury is stupid enough to favor Canelo over an American national, then it will create quite a few problems for the organizers. I am neither favoring Jacobs, nor Canelo. I want the jury to be neutral and award the match to the best fighter (in case either of the fighters are not able to KO their opponent).

It will happened in US during Cinco-de-Mayo, a Mexican day celebration.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-daniel-jacobs-nsac-approves-judges-fight--138305

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As BoxingScene.com first reported last week, Jacobs’ team vehemently objected to Adalaide Byrd’s inclusion in the pool of available judges submitted to both camps by Bennett. Jacobs’ team also expressed opposition to Trella working his middleweight title unification fight against Alvarez.

So you see, Jacobs camp are very choosy we will be the judge for this fight because they know that they have a disadvantage even though your argument is that the fight is in US soil and involves US fighter. But obviously Jacobs camp knows that Canelo Alvarez has a history of being favored in a close fight, just like we have seen in the first GGG vs Canelo in which majority saw GGG winning, but the judges see differently.

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Quote from: Netnox on April 28, 2019, 12:40:35 PM

Quote from: Netnox on April 28, 2019, 12:40:35 PM

I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

Nope, I don't think that the jury will be neutral. Canelo Alvarez has enjoyed the support of the judges just like what we witnessed in their fight with Gennady Golovkin so I would not be surprised at all if we are going to see it again against the American.

That's why Jacobs should finished the fight and KO Canelo and try to broke that granite chin, it might be difficult but not impossible.

The fight will be happening in Las Vegas, and if the jury is stupid enough to favor Canelo over an American national, then it will create quite a few problems for the organizers. I am neither favoring Jacobs, nor Canelo. I want the jury to be neutral and award the match to the best fighter (in case either of the fighters are not able to KO their opponent).

It could a tough bout for Jacobs, Canelo Alvarez have that advantage with his fighting experience. Remembering how he fought and beat GGV, this shows that he have that strong punch which could probably be used their fight.
Anyways, boxing is not all about how strong you are but it is also in the right timing. Strategies and can figured out how the opponents work in actual event.

I still think that GGG won the first win and the second can go either direction. So it's a hard fought match but I'm not convince that Alvarez really beat GGG in my ends. Daniel Jacobs is the fight that I think will give Alvarez a difficult fight, more than GGG, imo.

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I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

Nope, I don't think that the jury will be neutral. Canelo Alvarez has enjoyed the support of the judges just like what we witnessed in their fight with Gennady Golovkin so I would not be surprised at all if we are going to see it again against the American.

That's why Jacobs should finished the fight and KO Canelo and try to broke that granite chin, it might be difficult but not impossible.

The fight will be happening in Las Vegas, and if the jury is stupid enough to favor Canelo over an American national, then it will create quite a few problems for the organizers. I am neither favoring Jacobs, nor Canelo. I want the jury to be neutral and award the match to the best fighter (in case either of the fighters are not able to KO their opponent).

It could a tough bout for Jacobs, Canelo Alvarez have that advantage with his fighting experience. Remembering how he fought and beat GGV, this shows that he have that strong punch which could probably be used their fight.
Anyways, boxing is not all about how strong you are but it is also in the right timing. Strategies and can figured out how the opponents work in actual event.

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I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

Nope, I don't think that the jury will be neutral. Canelo Alvarez has enjoyed the support of the judges just like what we witnessed in their fight with Gennady Golovkin so I would not be surprised at all if we are going to see it again against the American.

That's why Jacobs should finished the fight and KO Canelo and try to broke that granite chin, it might be difficult but not impossible.

The fight will be happening in Las Vegas, and if the jury is stupid enough to favor Canelo over an American national, then it will create quite a few problems for the organizers. I am neither favoring Jacobs, nor Canelo. I want the jury to be neutral and award the match to the best fighter (in case either of the fighters are not able to KO their opponent).

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 25, 2019, 08:09:24 AM

I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

Nope, I don't think that the jury will be neutral. Canelo Alvarez has enjoyed the support of the judges just like what we witnessed in their fight with Gennady Golovkin so I would not be surprised at all if we are going to see it again against the American.

That's why Jacobs should finished the fight and KO Canelo and try to broke that granite chin, it might be difficult but not impossible.

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My bet is on Canelo, I have seen how explosives he is on all his fights, he is in contention to become one of mexico's greatest boxer, he should go against top guys in his division and the next higher division if he can get through that weight, and of course he should beat Jacobs in a grand fashion, just like what Bud has done to Khan.

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Well after the announcement I made an assignment to check Dany Jacobs, honestly, he is unknown to me, he is an unpopular champion, and after watching some of his fights, my bet is on Canelo, the guy does not have a real punching power, it took a lot of punch coming from him to knock his opponent out.

Just like you, I don't heard anything from Jacob yet so needs to review his previous fight and learned about his skills, but upon checking, Canelo
still have some edge against him, though this rising fighter can surprise us, but personally I'll go with Canelo as experienced will give him the benefits
of staying and keeping his belts.

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I stopped watching boxing after Gennady Golovkin was cheated of a victory not once, but twice against Canelo Alvarez. What is the point in watching these matches if the best fighter is not the one who is going to win? The jury will select the winner, no matter whether he performs well or not. Hopefully the jury will be neutral this time, as Jacobs is American.

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Canelo is a machine, no way he loses this fight. He’ll win it convincingly I think & probably in an early round.

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I don't know about you guys, but I have that attitude of wanting the underdog to win. I just want to oppose the majority. Cheesy

Anyways, yes, Canelo is the favorite in this match but bettors should not underestimate the underdog which, in this square off, is Jacobs. According to gambling.com, "Jacobs is a fast and powerful middleweight who really knows how to get his punches off. He’s excellent at setting the pace of fights, and he’s adept at winning them through multiple strategies." But, after all, the decision will depend on the judges. So may the best fighter win.

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Quote from: mich on April 25, 2019, 11:10:49 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 25, 2019, 02:23:19 AM

Maybe change the title to 'Canelo' since more people know him by that name then his real name Alvarez Wink

You have a point there buddy.

Quote from: mirakal on April 25, 2019, 02:23:19 AM

There is a very big chance this match contests to the decision so my only play will me to consider the over prop when it becomes available.

I will it will go to decision and whenever that happens, I'd like to bet on the underdog since it gives good odds to gamblers.

Nice to see the title of this thread was changed now it should get more replies
If you bet on the underdog in this match you can get good odds but this is Canelo we are talking about.
Canelo only decision loss ever is to. Are you ready. FLOYD MAYWEATHER!

Don't worry, I am not too interested in this game, I'll only be betting a small amount just for fan and hope there is an upset.

Things could happen, dogs are more motivated in the fight so one lucky punch could end the game and I'll enjoy my winning, but don't really expect that. win or loss as long as they show some real entertainment, unlike FLOYD fights, that would be fine with me, I can accept loses all days as I know I can win it back in other sports.

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Maybe change the title to 'Canelo' since more people know him by that name then his real name Alvarez Wink

You have a point there buddy.

Quote from: coin-investor on April 25, 2019, 08:09:24 AM

There is a very big chance this match contests to the decision so my only play will me to consider the over prop when it becomes available.

I will it will go to decision and whenever that happens, I'd like to bet on the underdog since it gives good odds to gamblers.

Nice to see the title of this thread was changed now it should get more replies
If you bet on the underdog in this match you can get good odds but this is Canelo we are talking about.
Canelo only decision loss ever is to. Are you ready. FLOYD MAYWEATHER!

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Well after the announcement I made an assignment to check Dany Jacobs, honestly, he is unknown to me, he is an unpopular champion, and after watching some of his fights, my bet is on Canelo, the guy does not have a real punching power, it took a lot of punch coming from him to knock his opponent out.

I would say for casual fans, Jacobs is not that popular and probably I would say the division that he is in is also not that recognized. Usually casual fans is in the 147 lbs with lots of recognizable name. But Jacobs has a good resume, I'm not seeing solid as he has faces a lot of unknown fighters and that the division is not that stack up. But he is legit and as I have previously, this is a big test how tough Canelo is, if ever he will win this fight against Jacobs and I will get him props for that.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 25, 2019, 08:09:24 AM

Well after the announcement I made an assignment to check Dany Jacobs, honestly, he is unknown to me, he is an unpopular champion, and after watching some of his fights, my bet is on Canelo, the guy does not have a real punching power, it took a lot of punch coming from him to knock his opponent out.

Coefs on this match are Daniel Jacobs 3.94 vs Saul Alvarez 1.24 (according to cloudbet.com). 3,94 is rather high, looks like most of the people don't believe in Jacobs victory.

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Well after the announcement I made an assignment to check Dany Jacobs, honestly, he is unknown to me, he is an unpopular champion, and after watching some of his fights, my bet is on Canelo, the guy does not have a real punching power, it took a lot of punch coming from him to knock his opponent out.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 25, 2019, 03:16:09 AM

Maybe change the title to 'Canelo' since more people know him by that name then his real name Alvarez Wink

I have a conversation with my colleague here at work and i told him about the upcoming fight of Alvarez, then he said "Alvarez who?" I said Canelo Alvarez the Mexican fighter and that's the time he recognized Alvarez Grin

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Thanks for the insight mich.

Same to me. At first I also thought who Alvarez ? Some Mexican dude (not trying to offent mexicans), probably a good boxer. But nickname Canelo changes everything Cheesy

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 23, 2019, 07:16:54 PM

Maybe change the title to 'Canelo' since more people know him by that name then his real name Alvarez Wink

I have a conversation with my colleague here at work and i told him about the upcoming fight of Alvarez, then he said "Alvarez who?" I said Canelo Alvarez the Mexican fighter and that's the time he recognized Alvarez Grin

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Thanks for the insight mich.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Daniel Jacobs
Date : May 4, 2019
Venue : Las Vegas, Nevada

Canelo Alvarez will defend his WBA and WBC belts and will try to take the IBF middleweight strap from Daniel Jacobs this Cinco de Mayo weekend. I think this is just another walk in the park fight for Alvarez against the less popular Jacobs but who knows if Jacobs could land that lucky punch since he is a heavy hitter between the two looking at his 29 KO's in that 35 wins. Just wanna hear your thoughts about this fight guys.

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There is no way that the fight would be a walk in the park for Alvarez. Looking at the previous fights of Jacobs, he has the guts to fight back and do some damage on Alvarez. Anyway, experience wise, Alvarez has the edge and who knows maybe Jacobs can pull out a sucker punch that would shake the hell out of Alvarez.

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Maybe change the title to 'Canelo' since more people know him by that name then his real name Alvarez Wink

You have a point there buddy.