Can't access my 'free' Bitcoin Cash after August split

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Quote from: sennac6 on December 27, 2017, 02:34:50 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on December 27, 2017, 09:29:06 AM

Quote from: sennac6 on December 27, 2017, 07:51:41 AM

Hi Thirdspace, I sent you and Aura a PM last night

your address is a multisig address, that's why they have problem telling you how to redeem BCH
you can claim your share but it's really dependent on how willing BitGo to help.
in short, you need your private key combine with their private key to access the fund.
I read something about keytern.al as backup key (3rd key), you might want to ask BitGo directly about it
a thread about BitGo and keytern.al https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitgocom-full-control-over-your-bitcoin-1795397
before claiming BCH or other fork coin, I strongly suggest you to move your BTC to another wallet (out of BitGo)
any wallet that you fully control the private key, better safe than sorry Cool

Ok, roger that.

So can I place my BTC in my ledger now and still be able to reclaim my BCH eventually? Or does my BTC have to physically stay in that wallet until BCH is claimed? (Or is the history sufficient?)

Thanks so much for this insight.

You can put all your funds in Electrum or Mycellium wallet or to your ledger, you can still be able to reclaim your BCH if they share the multisig to you.

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(Or is the history sufficient?)

I don't see any hindrance if the history is broken, you might still be able to access your BCH, however I'm not very sure of that because it is multisig, you need more advice for pro or expert. Wink

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Quote from: Thirdspace on December 27, 2017, 09:29:06 AM

Quote from: sennac6 on December 27, 2017, 07:51:41 AM

Hi Thirdspace, I sent you and Aura a PM last night

your address is a multisig address, that's why they have problem telling you how to redeem BCH
you can claim your share but it's really dependent on how willing BitGo to help.
in short, you need your private key combine with their private key to access the fund.
I read something about keytern.al as backup key (3rd key), you might want to ask BitGo directly about it
a thread about BitGo and keytern.al https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitgocom-full-control-over-your-bitcoin-1795397
before claiming BCH or other fork coin, I strongly suggest you to move your BTC to another wallet (out of BitGo)
any wallet that you fully control the private key, better safe than sorry Cool

Ok, roger that.

So can I place my BTC in my ledger now and still be able to reclaim my BCH eventually? Or does my BTC have to physically stay in that wallet until BCH is claimed? (Or is the history sufficient?)

Thanks so much for this insight.

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Quote from: sennac6 on December 27, 2017, 07:51:41 AM

Hi Thirdspace, I sent you and Aura a PM last night

your address is a multisig address, that's why they have problem telling you how to redeem BCH
you can claim your share but it's really dependent on how willing BitGo to help.
in short, you need your private key combine with their private key to access the fund.
I read something about keytern.al as backup key (3rd key), you might want to ask BitGo directly about it
a thread about BitGo and keytern.al https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitgocom-full-control-over-your-bitcoin-1795397
before claiming BCH or other fork coin, I strongly suggest you to move your BTC to another wallet (out of BitGo)
any wallet that you fully control the private key, better safe than sorry Cool

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Quote from: Thirdspace on December 26, 2017, 09:41:18 PM

Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 09:14:18 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on December 26, 2017, 01:13:32 PM

Quote from: Aura on December 26, 2017, 09:02:11 AM

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?

As Aura asked, in what addresses did you have your BTC on August 1, 2017?

Same BitGo wallet as since 2014

if you can just simply tell us the addresses, it would be easier to figure out.
noone can steal your bitcoin just by knowing your addresses, if you're worry about that
and not many people on this forum know/use BitGo wallet, so more details info would help
just DON'T share any private key, password or anything that could lead to the loss of your BTC

Hi Thirdspace, I sent you and Aura a PM last night

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Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 09:14:18 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on December 26, 2017, 01:13:32 PM

Quote from: Aura on December 26, 2017, 09:02:11 AM

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?

As Aura asked, in what addresses did you have your BTC on August 1, 2017?

Same BitGo wallet as since 2014

if you can just simply tell us the addresses, it would be easier to figure out.
noone can steal your bitcoin just by knowing your addresses, if you're worry about that
and not many people on this forum know/use BitGo wallet, so more details info would help
just DON'T share any private key, password or anything that could lead to the loss of your BTC

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Quote from: Thirdspace on December 26, 2017, 01:13:32 PM

Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 08:56:04 AM

What do you mean by 'the site of the wallet'? The receive address?

I still have my original keys from before I put them in Bitgo, so would that be enough?

Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 09:49:41 AM

It's going back to 2014, but I believe I simply transferred my BTC to this BitGo wallet from Vault of Satoshi (an early exchange that has since gone under). Basically BitGo provided me with 'new' keys (and redemption script) after I transferred them over. Does that help?

I meant the official site of the wallet, where I can read more about their wallet services/features
I checked their site, it seems you owned the address by means of multisig 3xxx addresses
am I right? your addresses are 3xxx multisig (not 3xxx segwit)
so whatever keys you have, it's only partial keys that you needed to control the fund

How can I tell if I have multisig vs. segwit? From what I can tell, it's likely multisig, as BitGo seems to offer multisig

Quote from: Aura on December 26, 2017, 09:02:11 AM

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?

As Aura asked, in what addresses did you have your BTC on August 1, 2017?

Same BitGo wallet as since 2014

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Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 08:56:04 AM

What do you mean by 'the site of the wallet'? The receive address?

I still have my original keys from before I put them in Bitgo, so would that be enough?

Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 09:49:41 AM

It's going back to 2014, but I believe I simply transferred my BTC to this BitGo wallet from Vault of Satoshi (an early exchange that has since gone under). Basically BitGo provided me with 'new' keys (and redemption script) after I transferred them over. Does that help?

I meant the official site of the wallet, where I can read more about their wallet services/features
I checked their site, it seems you owned the address by means of multisig 3xxx addresses
am I right? your addresses are 3xxx multisig (not 3xxx segwit)
so whatever keys you have, it's only partial keys that you needed to control the fund

Quote from: Aura on December 26, 2017, 09:02:11 AM

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?

As Aura asked, in what addresses did you have your BTC on August 1, 2017?

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Did you just import the address without sweeping or did you send your Bitcoins to a new BitGo address? I have never heard of BitGo, but it sounds like one of these web-wallets that don't allow you to access your keys (seed). In case of that, it's not possible to claim your Bitcoin Cash yourself.

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?
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thanks Aura,

My BTC were in that same wallet at the fork, yes.

It's going back to 2014, but I believe I simply transferred my BTC to this BitGo wallet from Vault of Satoshi (an early exchange that has since gone under). Basically BitGo provided me with 'new' keys (and redemption script) after I transferred them over. Does that help?

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Quote from: sennac6 on December 26, 2017, 08:56:04 AM

Quote from: Thirdspace on December 25, 2017, 10:52:08 PM

does BitGo wallet own your address? or how do they generate addressses in your wallet?
if you have seed or can extract your private keys, it would be possible to claim BCH by yourself.
but if you have only deposit address on BitGo wallet, then less likely you can get your BCH share.
what's the site for the wallet? I'll take a look into it.

Thanks Thirdspace,

What do you mean by 'the site of the wallet'? The receive address?

I still have my original keys from before I put them in Bitgo, so would that be enough?

Alternatively, if I took my BTC out of my BitGo wallet and into a Ledger Nano, would that help anything at this point?

Did you just import the address without sweeping or did you send your Bitcoins to a new BitGo address? I have never heard of BitGo, but it sounds like one of these web-wallets that don't allow you to access your keys (seed). In case of that, it's not possible to claim your Bitcoin Cash yourself.

Edit: Did you have your Bitcoins in your Bitgo wallet on the moment the fork?

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Quote from: Thirdspace on December 25, 2017, 10:52:08 PM

does BitGo wallet own your address? or how do they generate addressses in your wallet?
if you have seed or can extract your private keys, it would be possible to claim BCH by yourself.
but if you have only deposit address on BitGo wallet, then less likely you can get your BCH share.
what's the site for the wallet? I'll take a look into it.

Thanks Thirdspace,

What do you mean by 'the site of the wallet'? The receive address?

I still have my original keys from before I put them in Bitgo, so would that be enough?

Alternatively, if I took my BTC out of my BitGo wallet and into a Ledger Nano, would that help anything at this point?

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This is exactly the problem when people use third party services to store their bitcoins. You give them the control over your money. Now you rely and trust on them to "manage" this problem. If you have 100% control over your Private key, then you would have had your Bitcoin Cash by now.

Once you export the seed to another wallet, it will be exploitable and you should not use it again.

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does BitGo wallet own your address? or how do they generate addressses in your wallet?
if you have seed or can extract your private keys, it would be possible to claim BCH by yourself.
but if you have only deposit address on BitGo wallet, then less likely you can get your BCH share.
what's the site for the wallet? I'll take a look into it.

sennac6

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My BTC were in a legacy BitGo wallet before the Aug split, and now I can't retrieve my Bitcoin cash (which was supposed to be equal to my BTC before the split, right?)

I've contacted BitGo and they were looking into how to retrieve them, but it's been a month now. Apparently since I'm in an older (or legacy) wallet, it's a little more complicated.

Question is, do I even need Bitgo to retrieve them? Or can I do this on my own somehow?

Any advice would help

Denis

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