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Quote from: ahoenk on February 05, 2018, 04:07:17 AM

No my friend ico coin will mever surpass btc. Bitcoin has a natural growth and we got it from mining and i dont think any ico coin out there will surpasses bitcoin. Bitcoin is king of crypto and will be always king. The pioneer of thia industry even if the bitcoin tech is obsolete but many people will think about bitcoin if they talked about cryptocurrencies.

I think natural growth is due to mass hysteria and hype. Most people approach the blockchain mainly because of the financial aspects. Only a very few percentage take a look at the technology behind it.
Bitcoin has thrived long enough because it projected financial value, but when it comes down to the basic blockchain advantages, the problems of bitcoin begin to surface.
So, a more refined research into how blockchain can transform the overall economy is what top tier influences are after and not just temporal financial prospects.

Case in point; when you hear of regulation and standardization, it's not just pertaining to bitcoin but blockchain and all of its products. However, when you hear of a 'BAN' it most likely has to do with cryptocurrencies of which bitcoin is the most referred to (like you said 'king of crypto') and ICOs only because of unregulated and anonymous crowdfunding source and destinations.

Yeah, i agree. Cryptocurrency hype is one of the major factor that drives the community, and if that is taken away the system may crumble.

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Quote from: ahoenk on February 05, 2018, 04:07:17 AM

No my friend ico coin will mever surpass btc. Bitcoin has a natural growth and we got it from mining and i dont think any ico coin out there will surpasses bitcoin. Bitcoin is king of crypto and will be always king. The pioneer of thia industry even if the bitcoin tech is obsolete but many people will think about bitcoin if they talked about cryptocurrencies.

I think natural growth is due to mass hysteria and hype. Most people approach the blockchain mainly because of the financial aspects. Only a very few percentage take a look at the technology behind it.
Bitcoin has thrived long enough because it projected financial value, but when it comes down to the basic blockchain advantages, the problems of bitcoin begin to surface.
So, a more refined research into how blockchain can transform the overall economy is what top tier influences are after and not just temporal financial prospects.

Case in point; when you hear of regulation and standardization, it's not just pertaining to bitcoin but blockchain and all of its products. However, when you hear of a 'BAN' it most likely has to do with cryptocurrencies of which bitcoin is the most referred to (like you said 'king of crypto') and ICOs only because of unregulated and anonymous crowdfunding source and destinations.

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Quote from: PPleaseman on February 05, 2018, 07:55:29 AM

Hi, have a small bet on cardano, so far the only get hyped. we will see

Cheers

That's the spirit. You should only bet what you can afford to lose; cryptocurrency 101. However, I can never emphasize enough how due diligence can save one from avoidable errors in judgement calls.

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Hi, have a small bet on cardano, so far the only get hyped. we will see

Cheers

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 29, 2018, 09:07:03 AM

Developers at BTC are also the very best.

That's an obsolete legend. They are the most, but not the best. If i need to specify, where's the best developers, i pick the ethereum fundation.

I'll also pick Ethereum, but Cardano has the advantage of peer-review mechanism & a vast network of academic researchers to uphold the system.

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Quote from: ahoenk on February 05, 2018, 04:07:17 AM

No my friend ico coin will mever surpass btc. Bitcoin has a natural growth and we got it from mining and i dont think any ico coin out there will surpasses bitcoin. Bitcoin is king of crypto and will be always king. The pioneer of thia industry even if the bitcoin tech is obsolete but many people will think about bitcoin if they talked about cryptocurrencies.

And that is actually a fact. And let nobody forget that Ethereum is an ICO coin. So whatever people say about Ethereum building and such development and marketing done. Hiring great developers, going to conferences and promoting the platform, remember that they started by raising millions, got hacked, reversed the blockchain and here there are today. Cardano is no different. Nobody worked on it for free, all the ICO money is the one building the hype and getting the community interested.

Bitcoin's crown is there and cannot be taken away, not by price not by position in market, not anything.

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No my friend ico coin will mever surpass btc. Bitcoin has a natural growth and we got it from mining and i dont think any ico coin out there will surpasses bitcoin. Bitcoin is king of crypto and will be always king. The pioneer of thia industry even if the bitcoin tech is obsolete but many people will think about bitcoin if they talked about cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 29, 2018, 09:07:03 AM

Developers at BTC are also the very best.

That's an obsolete legend. They are the most, but not the best. If i need to specify, where's the best developers, i pick the ethereum fundation.

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Cardano will be one of the biggest. There is already an ICO running named SP8DE (https://sp8de.com/) based on the Cardano blockchain.
If you experienced the horrible Ethereum wallets (ao Mist, Metatask, MEW) which are the most user-unfriendly I ever encountered together with an incomprehensive gas system that makes every transfer a headache, it is not difficult to see the easy-to-use Cardano can become a major player.

So why do people keep saying Cardano has no product yet when clearly SP8DE is one of its product.

The product from what? Can you tell where can i use my cardano to get utility usage from my token? at least i can play the game with it. It's just another ico and it's not a product. Can you tell me about what was the definition of product
This thread obviously created by ethereum haters lol

Oh come on... am ethereum's and bitcoin's number 1 fan... well was for bitcoin before ethereum came up. And besides, we all are not just fanatics we are after solidity and proof of work and 'state'. Every ICO and future projects ought to know that blockchain isn't just about fundraising to produce shit coins but creative real-world solutions and to real-world problems.

This thread was created to critically analyze the potential of Cardano vs. bitcoin, find out if Ethereum will sit on the sidelines - as a lesson to future projects too.

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Quote from: withche.07 on February 04, 2018, 03:25:56 AM

Cardano doesn't even have product at all. It is too early to talk about. And I would prefer bitcoin or ethereum any day over cardano. I ve read many people saying cardano is somewhat shady when it was first talked on bct.

Everyone has their opinion about this coin or that coin. But the superior ideology comes from the one you obtain through due diligence. After going through their whitepaper and their roadmap, am somewhat convinced that they will provide solidity. Besides, except Bitcoin and Ethereum are ready to scale this very moment, each delay is crucial to further accessibility. Leaving more room for rookie blockchain products like NEO, NEM, or even Cardano think of replacing their legacy.

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Cardano will be one of the biggest. There is already an ICO running named SP8DE (https://sp8de.com/) based on the Cardano blockchain.
If you experienced the horrible Ethereum wallets (ao Mist, Metatask, MEW) which are the most user-unfriendly I ever encountered together with an incomprehensive gas system that makes every transfer a headache, it is not difficult to see the easy-to-use Cardano can become a major player.

So why do people keep saying Cardano has no product yet when clearly SP8DE is one of its product.

The product from what? Can you tell where can i use my cardano to get utility usage from my token? at least i can play the game with it. It's just another ico and it's not a product. Can you tell me about what was the definition of product
This thread obviously created by ethereum haters lol

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not near to knock btc crown but still many positives within cardano. The platform is Haskell Coded with an Ouroborus Algorithm. the proof type is/will be proof of stake after Shelly project is complete. Team Cardano is the most technologically advanced team on the planet in my honest opinion.

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Cardano is a great project but i do not think it can take the place or price of the giants, may be we can say this if something terrible happens with the giants and they are replaced by new one's like cardano.

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Cardano rules! I have and now is on top 5. I will keep my investment in int for next few months

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Quote from: withche.07 on February 04, 2018, 03:25:56 AM

Cardano doesn't even have product at all. It is too early to talk about. And I would prefer bitcoin or ethereum any day over cardano. I ve read many people saying cardano is somewhat shady when it was first talked on bct.

Although there is no product, but the coin is very promising, you will see how much it will cost after one year! Cool

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Cardano doesn't even have product at all. It is too early to talk about. And I would prefer bitcoin or ethereum any day over cardano. I ve read many people saying cardano is somewhat shady when it was first talked on bct.

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I tend to think that BTC is and always will be the pin to measure other crypto's - but that said, ADA had the potential to be a runner up of sorts if they play their cards right and keep on delivering the value.

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

And what about the throne, too, is an underestimated coin. Neither in the next bitcoin it will be possible to kill, especially to coins less than 1 dollar. It's just complacency that I bought this coin for good reason.

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Not going to happen, to bank on this would be one of the most optimistic things I've seen in trading.
Nothing will overtake BTC this year, and if and when the time comes it won't be ADA.

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Quote from: Kingofbitcoin12345 on January 31, 2018, 01:38:11 PM

I’m biased on bitcoin as I’m a member of Bitcointalk and a holder.. So it won’t take the position as the number one and it’s crown as the top coin in cryptocurrency.. But I admit that with this kind of potential coin it deserve on the second spot and has the power to dethrone ethereum and replace it in due time.. But it won’t be happening this year or even a couple more year as eth is used in many projects as an investment coin..

I agree, I read an article about how ADA is a threat to ETH. We may well be seeing some scalable issues with Ethereum, although they have plans underway to fix that, but I think once Cardano touches down on its next milestone (Shelley - Expected Q2 2018), it would be a game changer in crypto-world.

The advantage they have over Eth is their Peer-review system, and a vast resource of researchers; no wonder they have so much to accomplish in a short period of time.

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Cardano will be one of the biggest. There is already an ICO running named SP8DE (https://sp8de.com/) based on the Cardano blockchain.
If you experienced the horrible Ethereum wallets (ao Mist, Metatask, MEW) which are the most user-unfriendly I ever encountered together with an incomprehensive gas system that makes every transfer a headache, it is not difficult to see the easy-to-use Cardano can become a major player.

So why do people keep saying Cardano has no product yet when clearly SP8DE is one of its product.

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I think as people continue to understand the divide between protocol and currency layouts, the finer they appreciate blockchain. Now that one thing common to both ETH and ADA, however, IMO i think what Cardana proposes is several steps ahead of what ethereum currently is.

In this light we should begin to see soon what Cardano Tech is really all about, as soon as the next milestone on the roadmap is achieved.

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January 2017 price of Ethereum = $7.98 USD, am just saying, if and when a crypto becomes usable and adopted by the masses all depends on the opportunity that avails itself. Am pretty sure apart for token contribution, people didn't think Ethereum could also be used as a store of value. most people preferred Bitcoin. But as at the time when the bitcoin had high transaction fees, people turned to the likes of LTC, ETH and even NEO... - opportunity.

So if Ethereum doesn't step up, Cardano does possesses the ability to scale, YOU JUST WAIT and see. Crypto has a funny way of surprising us.

Here's a reddit comment from one of the fans of the project when he heard that Genesis Vision will be using Cardano as payment:

"That's great news for both projects. ADA adoption in the GVT platform will open up ADA users to the perks of passive income from fund management tokens within the platform, and GVT will benefit from the additional traffic. It's great to watch the Space grow organically as projects build with one another."

And this is just the beginning.

NB: When comparing cryptos, its important to note that the timeline for each development cannot be the same as so much can differ especially when they are done at intervals.

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I would think it is highly unlikely given that Bitcoin is now synonymous with crypto and that currently, most exchanges use BTC as a gateway to other alts. ETH is more likely...

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I dare to believe it's not yet ADA but rather NEO/GAS who's about to challenge these two in 2k18.

NEO is better-rep, more useful/adapted so far, with an army of future ICO babies being born and/or to come in the upcoming yrs, all powered/paid for with NEO/GAS komplex behind it.

I hold some small amount of ADA though not NEO - but hold a solid amount of GAS instead (smartasses hold GAS, lol)

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I’m biased on bitcoin as I’m a member of Bitcointalk and a holder.. So it won’t take the position as the number one and it’s crown as the top coin in cryptocurrency.. But I admit that with this kind of potential coin it deserve on the second spot and has the power to dethrone ethereum and replace it in due time.. But it won’t be happening this year or even a couple more year as eth is used in many projects as an investment coin..

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Quote from: Zulkin0s on January 31, 2018, 01:18:51 PM

As mentioned above, it's all about adoption and community. You can have the best technology, lowest fees and total privacy, but it will mean nothing until mass-media make people know about you and form a community. Bitcoin happens to be first of cryptocurrency that everybody heard of, so BTC will hold his crown until cryptorevolution actually happens.

You told everything !

I think exactly the same : Bitcoin is the first Crypto-Currency but not necessary the best (and in my opinion a lot of new crypto are better than Bitcoin) but he is accepted near everywhere and a lot of exchange platforms are using only Bitcoin to buy Altcoins, no fiat.

If one day an other coin take the crown of the Bitcoin it will be after a blood bath like we never seen before, I hope I will never see it (except if I hold a huge bag of the coin which took the crown ^^).

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

If you are into CARDANO for long term then why are you curious about it surpassing bitcoin or ethereum?

I absolutely didn't think that is possible to even get closer to the price of ethereum. There's so much hype around this coin and I have read its whitepaper but I totally lost it because of too much technical terms in it. LOL.

Yes, its a good coin to invest, but I don't think that it will go above bitcoin and ethereum price not even in the next 10 years or so.

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As mentioned above, it's all about adoption and community. You can have the best technology, lowest fees and total privacy, but it will mean nothing until mass-media make people know about you and form a community. Bitcoin happens to be first of cryptocurrency that everybody heard of, so BTC will hold his crown until cryptorevolution actually happens.

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I don't think cardano will replace Bitcoin or ethereum any time soon because it's very much amateur in nature. Ok! Let's say some miracles happened and it did surpass Ethereum but what next? If the project needs to be successful then people must start using it. BTW how many people are using cardano other than investment purpose? Probably none.

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

This makes me laugh

ADA is 15x smaller than BTC and doesn't have 1% of Bitcoin adoption.
Also, Cardano is just a token without real product, yet.

Exactly. Way too many shitcoins with no product and promise. Now my investments have been going to Ardor. It actually has a real working product and new blockchain. It will rival Ethereum in a few years and solves all the issues Ethereum has. Most dont hear about it because it is not just another pump and dump shilled coin. It is the real deal and not this Cardano poser.

Well first you got me there when you mention Ador. I mean, anything blockchain with a side chain is my investment 'cryptonice'. but NXT was also once an undervalued coin when it finished it's ICO even with the label of blockchain 2.0. So am thinking, if Cardano pulls a stunt like that, won't it be great to have a few 'shit coin' stashed away just in case.

But another token offering am also not too sure about is Arcblock... I mean, who builds a new blockchain and sells its token for $0.5 USD; really suspicious was expecting it to be around $1 USD or least $0.8 USD. Any thought guys?

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

It won't surpass btc because ADA doesn't have a real product yet. It also does not got what it takes to put up a fight with btc and ethereum, it is only in it's early phases after all. Even if that is the case, ADA is profitable as is and it still got a lot of potential to grow. If you are in for a long term hodl why not invest now without thinking of it surpasing btc or not?

Ok a little confused here, everyone's saying that they don't have a real product yet and that its currently just a token or a currency, but I thought the prospect is in what they plan to do and not just what they already have in place. I think if they hit their next milestone it should count for something - i think... wouldn't know though.

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

It won't surpass btc because ADA doesn't have a real product yet. It also does not got what it takes to put up a fight with btc and ethereum, it is only in it's early phases after all. Even if that is the case, ADA is profitable as is and it still got a lot of potential to grow. If you are in for a long term hodl why not invest now without thinking of it surpasing btc or not?

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

This makes me laugh

ADA is 15x smaller than BTC and doesn't have 1% of Bitcoin adoption.
Also, Cardano is just a token without real product, yet.

Exactly. Way too many shitcoins with no product and promise. Now my investments have been going to Ardor. It actually has a real working product and new blockchain. It will rival Ethereum in a few years and solves all the issues Ethereum has. Most dont hear about it because it is not just another pump and dump shilled coin. It is the real deal and not this Cardano poser.

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

This makes me laugh

ADA is 15x smaller than BTC and doesn't have 1% of Bitcoin adoption.
Also, Cardano is just a token without real product, yet.

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I believe that is very unlikely. Bitcoin is the uncrowned emperor of cryptos and nothing will take its place
in near future as far as I can see. Cardano is a good project and with big appreciation potential for sure.

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

What a foolish comparison, if you see the marketcap and price ADA not even touch the scratch of ethereum and bitcoin. So it is waste of time to discuss about or can considered as bad comparison ever. Still ADA is competitive for ethereum in technology aspects since they are mainly works smart contracts project work.

Since you are looking to invest for the long term investment you should invest on bitcoin or ethereum. Because these coins reached many people in the world and most trustworthy coins in the crypto currency list. There may be chance to bump to reach the 25k usd on bitcoin this year.

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I do not think Cardano will knock off Bitcoin, on the contrary I think Cardano will loose its position in top ten cryptocurrencies this year. It is a good coin for sure, but it has some hype for some reason like Iota did. There are better and useful coins out there, why whould I invest such a new coin? It is very new and I think it does not deserve the position it has and decline like Iota

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Quote from: Mhz_evadah on January 29, 2018, 08:59:29 AM

Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

Surpass eth maybe it can but can`t go beyond btc prices. The current btc price is $ 11287.90 while the Cardano price is $ 0.624405, it takes 4 or 5 more years to make it happen.

Quote from: gin113 on January 29, 2018, 11:06:31 AM

maybe but not this year, in 2018 eth will surpass btc first before any other coin

You are right, eth is very likely to go beyond btc, if viewed in sequence position.

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maybe but not this year, in 2018 eth will surpass btc first before any other coin

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It isn`t strange, if this question comes to your mind. Because, Cardano is a very potential coin and worth it to invest. Cardano is launched by the IOHK blockchain development company, Cardano is considered a 3rd generation cryptocurrency. In early January 2018, Cardano was ranked the top 10 exchange rates. After the incident in south korea few days ago, Cardano position rose to 5th place, while Ethereum, Ripple, and Bitcoin Cash are still in the original position.

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Quote from: slaman29 on January 29, 2018, 09:07:03 AM

If you're going to make a long term investment on this or any other coin, for that matter, you'd probably be better off making decisions on your own. Most responses you'd get here are self motivated, including mine I admit.

One thing to note: if any alt sets off with the mission to "dethrone" Bitcoin, they should work first on adoption and utility. Not price, not tech, not even fast confirmations or zero fees. Almost all alts are supposedly superior to Bitcoin's tech, but that's not the only thing or even the main thing that will make people switch.

So far, no alt can match the Bitcoin community's support. Got a problem with tx? Ask and knowledgeable people help. Developers at BTC are also the very best. You get a secure, tested, solid and mature coin with Bitcoin. Got a problem with an alt tx? wallet? Try see how many people help, and how many give useful advice.

You nailed it! I guess people who try to achieve 'superior coin' go about it the wrong way. However, I asked for the opinions of people to sample ideas and, worst case scenario consider if it is going to be a worthwhile decision. Don't need another regret like XRP.

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If you're going to make a long term investment on this or any other coin, for that matter, you'd probably be better off making decisions on your own. Most responses you'd get here are self motivated, including mine I admit.

One thing to note: if any alt sets off with the mission to "dethrone" Bitcoin, they should work first on adoption and utility. Not price, not tech, not even fast confirmations or zero fees. Almost all alts are supposedly superior to Bitcoin's tech, but that's not the only thing or even the main thing that will make people switch.

So far, no alt can match the Bitcoin community's support. Got a problem with tx? Ask and knowledgeable people help. Developers at BTC are also the very best. You get a secure, tested, solid and mature coin with Bitcoin. Got a problem with an alt tx? wallet? Try see how many people help, and how many give useful advice.

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Hi everyone, just a curious question. Can Cardano surpass BTC & ETH?
I know that it is currently undervalued - or so I think; But with ADA's solidity and scalability prospect is it ever going to happen?

Your thoughts please... Need to make a long term investment decision on this.

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